We're Split on Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

[@bobbyybouchee]

I really got the feeling that this Reilly guy is the pattern for Mike‘s, Jay’s and Rich‘s nerd crew persona.

[@Jimmy-oi4go]

likepablo yep! Him, John rocha and a bit of John campea too

[@haydncook6503]

@@Jimmy-oi4go "Now, for ME PERSONALLY", I think they're riffing on John Campea quite a bit ;-)

[@edmonddantes563]

Mike is John Campea

[@oberon358]

Very possibly, that guy would happily eat a shit sandwich if it was packaged as SW merch.

[@liamphibia]

ResLetterMedia predicted this was gonna happen.

[@turneryoung905]

“I cried a few times... I also thought it was funny... I didn’t like Rey but I now think she’s one of the greatest characters ever.” Congrats to Roxy for being the exact thing nerd crew makes fun of.

[@jonahprinceton8132]

I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a trick to log back into an instagram account?? I was dumb lost my login password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!

[@adrianleandro4315]

@Jonah Princeton Instablaster :)

[@liamphibia]

Yeah he really fell into Disney's trap.

[@radiospines]

Paying "homage" is just a euphemism for laziness.

[@jrun145]

I agree

[@razkable]

how do you fix last jedi but ruin return of jedi jar jar abrams?

[@radiospines]

New star wars reviews a split Star Wars fandom: "Aaaw shit, ... here we go again"

[@razkable]

why do non fans think they matter?...why should disney cater to you when fans are why it makes money and 1 film changed the formula?..why did people simply enjoy last jedi for subverting expectations rather than shit on its execution and how it should not be sequel then or apart of this series or how it killed luke's character? and made a bunch of random shit up to force an agenda about sex and race and tell fan you are idiots for caring about lure and making stuff up when you did not make the series or create these dreams? ...go make your own movies rian and his fans go watch them...leave star wars alone...please...this is not the genre to change up..its about making fans happy...this series above all else in cinema is about making people feel like kids again...thats what star wars means..rian raped them...it was phantom menace times 100

[@JediHeckler]

If you liked The Last Jedi and can’t figure out how it had a negative impact on this film, I dunno what to tell you.

[@TheArtkaw]

It showed how vile and toxic the fandom is, sure.

[@mcnasty0322]

Funny why arent those vile and toxic fans going after mandolorian...oh wait that's because it's good.

[@TheJuggernaut88]

@@TheArtkaw it's not an unwarranted outrage though. TLJ took a dump on 30+ years of fandom. It's material that's been built up through several movies and RJ decided to forget about it. It's like the same outrage for the ending of GOT, material built up throughout the series gets completely crapped on in the final season. Objectively, TLJ is a good movie if you forget about all the past SW movies, but let's not pretend theres not a huge elephant in the room with what TLJ did.

[@Bayard1503]

Oh, I liked TLJ so much when I first saw it but that doesn't mean I'm blind and I didn't see how it affected the saga overall. While I think it's a very good movie it had no place in the universe, it ended all the speculation, all the theories, how could they do that??? I mean really to not prepare anything for the 9th ???? Broom boy? that's just some symbolism. The movie felt so final... That's not how you do it. Than JJ comes and retcons even the little episode 8 left??? These directors and producers are idiots!! But honestly, I put the least of blame on Rian Johnson, he was given free reign and probably told to leave it completely open for the next director.... Abrams and Kennedy are the ones that thought out this trilogy and the way it works, with no real plan .... screw them.

[@Trevorischillin]

I thought The Last Jedi was a good movie but a meh Star Wars movie. It's biggest issue being that it left very little options for where to bring the story next. So considering that, it makes complete sense that this movie felt rushed and exposition heavy.

[@cinemalover4027]

Don’t trust anyone’s opinion on this show 🤣

[@KurtisMays]

They sound very contradicting. lol They say they are mixed....what did you like about it? ..ahhh ..hababhibiha. It wasn't bad but it had this problem...that problem..etc lol They all saying it had 99 problems and a good movie was not 1. Lol

[@nicholasmallard2926]

For real! This movie was pure shit!

[@whitehorsedown6499]

I clapped because I remember Star Wars. I tell you what Collider are not as good as those diabetes fueled Nerd Crew guys, I trust all their reviews. Especially that pervert Richard Evans.

[@catsadilla324]

in Rocha we trust

[@kenshikenji]

The red shit and black hair girl actually had nice opinions. Too bad the shills tries to overpower them

[@bobbyybouchee]

Reilly is the least reliable movie reviewer in the history of movie reviewers. Roxy: „Hold my ... what is this called? Bear?“

[@PharaohofVibes]

so true! he just loves everything. and if he doesnt like something., he finds the most corporate friendly way to say he didnt. its just annoying. and Roxy has the WORST taste in movies

[@rammiine]

I think it's crazy that you guys think that someone enjoyed a movie and then reviewing that movie is somehow "not reliable" as a reviewer. Some people really just do hold different opinions than you.

[@PharaohofVibes]

​@@rammiine for years Collider has been doing a great job of reviewing movies in conversation form. there are personalities we like, and some we don't. its not that we are shaming one person for liking everything, its more of..why does this person always seeming to like mostly everything as a movie critic? so everything is good? really? gotta be skeptical of that person.

[@TheLegend617]

Roxy is the type of girl to like Dragon Ball evolution I bet. “Rey is the best character” yeahhhhh okay

[@emprodabobclips]

Lol yea she bugging

[@footclann0043]

Robert Storms likes Dragonball Evolution

[@Bayard1503]

Actually I think the only consensus I've seen is that Daisy RIdley is great and that her character is great (while still being a Mary Sue)

[@footclann0043]

@@Bayard1503 doesnt surprise me. Daisy Ridley imo is a solid actress but God is her character that they wrote for her was terrible The thing that keeps coming back to me with this ST is "solid potential, horrible execution"

[@FonsoDalchemist]

Schpeezus LMFAO DRAGON BALL EVOLU

[@dcanngieter]

Roxie loves any simple minded movie..... A hint of complexity and she's out lol

[@spicebandit8109]

That's women for you. Low IQ brainlets. Them having rights was a mistake, the fact we allow them to speak is baffling.

[@dcanngieter]

@@spicebandit8109 🤐 I didn't say all that

[@dcanngieter]

@@scovafd I don't think she's a dumbass, I just think she's perfect for reviewing television shows, but movies are too much for her so she always goes 100% for the simplistic movies.

[@pmjf4960]

@@spicebandit8109 that's fucked up 😂😂😂

[@thecrimsomcardyugioh9810]

You must be a last jedi fan lmao

[@boiledpnutz]

It’s hilarious how it comes down to defending or hating The Last Jedi.

[@ZR38315]

Ted Barrett it’s what I’ve said about TLJ from day one. Hardcore Star Wars fans are going to hate it but casual Star Wars fans who are just fans of movies in general will probably quite like it

[@alexellis8163]

@Ted Barrett Anyone who's okay with Luke or Anakin getting shitted on is a star wars fraud. This film is a disgrace and your in serious denial mode if you say otherwise.

[@schlock159]

@@ZR38315 I'm a hardcore Star Wars fan and TLJ is in my top 3 of best Star Wars movies. The thing of it is, is that in present day there are 2 kinds of fans. People who have been with a franchise from childhood and love it to death. And then there is a second group of fans out there who hate everything a franchise spills out from the get go and get their rocks off because they love to bash and rant about it just for the sake of being able to, now that they have media like youtube, facebook etc WITHOUT considering what their insulting comments mean to the people who have love franchises like this from their youth and invested over 20 years of their lives into it. For example: This group has basically only watched the new trilogy and they justify themselves for being able to say that Force Awakens was A New Hope clone and they get off on saying that without even having seen all the other (the originals as well) movies. Then The Last Jedi came out and they bashed on it and insulted the true fans by saying that it was too original, new and creative. At the end of the day..................the people who really love stuff like this are not able to win ever against these trolling bullies who inspire themselves with negativity.

[@DMNDjake]

Jeremiah Coleman what does that say

[@schlock159]

@@DMNDjake It says that people who hate TLJ and say it's not Star Wars without having any context to compare it to, really are not allowed to have a voice if you don't know what you are talking about. Let me tell those people: TLJ IS Star Wars. It's just not the Star Wars that you new fans without any experience in the Star Wars universe want it to be. That doesn't make it Star Wars to the true fans of the franchise.

[@chemamehc1]

I won't say names, but some people on this show have a very surface level perspective of movies...

[@imrankazzy9076]

Opinions on the movie didnt bother me as much as roxy’s attitude towards dorina i think her name is

[@davidramos4317]

All of them hahaha.

[@Amgrafixstudio]

And for that reason, I stop looking forward to their podcast/channel episodes. I can't finish a full episode or these small clips. Cringy.

[@shotbynolan1705]

The entire crew tbh

[@swagkage7550]

check out jodyscorner

[@marketingIdeaslol]

I think it’s hypocritical for Coy to say I feel offended by the rise of Skywalker and then not understand why people feel offended by last Jedi. We all have our version of Star Wars. Honestly gorge Lucas is the only one who has a say in what Star Wars is

[@TrueNorth1217]

Exactly. He praised TLJ for going against convention, but then trashed TROS for going against what he feels Star Wars represents. Didn't make sense to me.

[@quintoblanco8746]

George Lucas made the prequels... It's easy to forget, but Empire Strikes Back was written by Lawrence Kasdan (and Leigh Brackett, but that is a complicated story), and directed by Irvin Kershner. Lucas wrote the story, but Irvin Kershner worked together with Lawrence Kasdan. For me, somebody who saw the original trilogy when the movies first came out, Empire Strikes Back is the heart and soul of Star Wars.

[@yutaniskynet2653]

Are you offended by real turds... Or the fake plastic turds you buy at the mall?

[@marketingIdeaslol]

Quinto Blanco but ultimately it came from gorge. This feels like someone trying to emulate gorge

[@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677]

Tlj is offensive to Star Wars lore and tone where rise of skywalker is offensive as a movie

[@Ellipsis10]

Riley: “if you love Star Wars you’ll love this movie” guess what I love Star Wars and this movie is a mess!

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Listen to what he said, "If you love Star Wars growing up THE WAY I DID, you'll love this movie." Not everybody grew up loving Star Wars the way he did.

[@nelliekat403]

George Daugherty this statement is stupid anyway. Like if I grew up with Star Wars and loved the characters why would I love the movie that destroyed these characters’ legacy? The whole trilogy did tho.

[@Courier_333]

@@TheGeorgeD13 lol what does that even mean? What way did he grow up with star wars?

[@JBurnz001]

n k well that’s if you only love the characters and not the story that Star Wars is telling. He most likely loves the story Star Wars tells and that’s why he loves this movie. He’s not basing it on the characters he loves

[@BarnesGannon]

How can you say it's a mess when you haven't even seen it?

[@markgraves6441]

Cody "I wanted steak & I got Denny's delivery". I love you Cody

[@TicketsTheMovie]

Roxy has to chill with her emotions. Like I get what you’re saying but not everyone is going to agree.

[@PharaohofVibes]

agreed,. she clutches her pearls when someone disagrees with her. like they all have to agree with her

[@ivnwng]

ThresholdxGames she was being passive aggressive, bro. Watching her feels like I’m talking to my pissed off girlfriend that clearly is mad at me but is pretending to be civil.

[@thegreenhenryshow8809]

@@ivnwng She need not be offended if someone isn't into a dumb movie like this.

[@michaelwood9559]

I hate that comment “if you love Star Wars you’ll love this movie” like no I’m sorry that’s like saying “if you like Spider-Man you’ll love Spider-Man Homecoming” the properties mean different things to each individual and they’re gonna have different feelings coming out of a movie lmao. PS wow that guy has The Last Jedi as his SECOND best?? It’s like 5-6 for me

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Yep. And that's why we'll never have a non-divisive Star Wars movie ever again.

[@CalicoJackal]

@@TheGeorgeD13 This movie isn't divisive at all. People either hate it or haven't watched it.

[@ryan.smith01]

I haven’t seen ROS yet, so out of the 10 films, I would say it’s probably 8 for me. I really don’t like TLJ, but I have no problem with people that do.

[@marcsauriol9130]

TLJ is like even below the TV ewok movie for me, fighting hard with holiday special, so i dunno what to take of his take on it

[@TheGeorgeD13]

@@CalicoJackal There are people, like in this video, that love the movie, so you're wrong there.

[@Bmrk349]

Really my G? You cried my guy? You ain’t gotta lie to kick it

[@spartacusx9349]

Vaughn Reid I’m certainly sure that he gets paid to say all this shit 😂

[@skater0224]

Lol

[@skater0224]

I cried but because it was so bad. Same behavior but from different cause

[@JacksunGavin]

I cried

[@exthechickenwing]

Fire reference

[@MNGN101]

Bruh, how easy is it to make Roxy cry during a movie? She did that during Captain Marvel as well, apparently. How?

[@Atem_in_the_streets]

TF do you cry at Captain Marvel??

[@Harkness78]

Holy shit I would break up with my girlfriend if she had cried during Captain Marvel.

[@turtleman03]

"I hated this movie. I didn't hate this movie but..."

[@thejusticeavengers1]

That’s how it is honestly 😂

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

My Dark princess Dorina never fails me.

[@Rootz2000]

20:20 , the moment Roxy realizes she's gonna get bodied in the comments lol.

[@Sarnatuile]

@Vincent H. Imagine thinking opinions are facts and one cannot like something without being wrong for liking it. People like you are utter cancer.

[@Sarnatuile]

@Vincent H. I'm probably older than you, I also don't care about getting likes. That doesn't change facts and that certainly doesn't change the meaning of words. You are quite literally saying they're wrong for enjoying something. Are you actually stupid? You can't be ''wrong'' for enjoying something. The moment they say something like ''this is the best movie ever made'', then your argument would hold up, but to say they're wrong simply for enjoying something? That has nothing to do with everyone getting a trophy. That has to do with the fact that tastes differ and something you might like, another might not and vice versa, but that doesn't immediately mean it's wrong to enjoy something? You actually, genuinely believe that? But enjoy your like farming, you clearly need the confidence boost.

[@MrSundaynighttt]

@Vincent H. totally agree, too many times I've seen Roxy add idiotic thoughts to movie conversations on this channel.

[@brumtownmiller6130]

Tmc shes the reason i unsubscribed from collider. She thinks shes an expert but says things that shows shes clearly not

[@farakhhanif]

Vincent H. No one should be considered the ultimate authority on film opinions. People tend to talk highly of people they agree with and try to diminish the opinions of those who they disagree with. Many people would have said that Martin Scorsese’s opinions on cinema should be regarded highly, but because he said “MCU movies aren’t cinema” people started criticizing him online saying “Who them hell is he to decide something like that?” Or “What has he ever accomplished?”

[@Mertaranta]

I disagree with Dori, TFA had far less originality than ROS.

[@conneroneill8506]

I don’t know why people go into a space wizard movie expecting citizen cane or apocalypse now. And I really enjoyed the film. Remember star wars was made as a reactionary statement to the dark and disturbing films of “New American cinema”. So critics hate joker because of its dirtbag leftist politics (that’s not an insult) but they also hate TROS because it’s completely apolitical and not “deep”. Get another job or read a book.

[@ladykhal]

It was ok for TFA to be safe. They were introducing a new trilogy and a new set of characters. This was supposed to be the end of a saga. It felt like KZbin rewind, Star Wars edition.

[@conneroneill8506]

Mason the Beefcake oh it wasn’t THAT bad. It was a fun romp.

[@kennethbryant5819]

The only one that took chances was TLJ but you know how that goes.

[@forrestsmith7881]

TFA had more original music. ROS sounded like clips from each of the soundtracks.

[@Wimpywoo16]

Me personally, I *loved* this movie

[@cactustalks]

Really cool

[@liamphibia]

Oof

[@Lexyboogie]

I’m sick and tired of Star Wars. Not because of the actual content, but because of the fandom.

[@DjBuddhaInBlack]

You said it!

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Yes, they're insufferable, no matter what opinion they hold. Like... Chill, it's only a movie man.

[@ryansmith-jr4gn]

@@TheGeorgeD13 it's not only a movie.

[@ryan.smith01]

A lot of people just don’t get what an opinion is & seem to be genuinely upset when you don’t agree with them. If you don’t like this new trilogy that’s fine, if you do that’s fine also. Just like what you like & don’t let anyone tell you your an idiot for doing so.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

@@ryansmith-jr4gn Yes it is only a movie. Just a movie. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@juliey196]

Everyone skip this crew and just watch Jeremy Jahns review. He’s The most honest, down to earth reviewer on anything I’ve ever watched. I wish Collider would quit popping up in my “Recommended” they are worthless

[@Billkeys123]

Yeah I definitely agree with Everything Jahns says like when he said you need to be drunk in order to enjoy once upon a time in Hollywood 👍.

[@GeeVanderplas]

Yeah only people who you agree with are honest...

[@Rootz2000]

it was also #1 trending for a while. I don't think he was alone.

[@juliey196]

Geert van der Plas I have agreed with every movie review he’s done...not just 1. He tells it like it is...no bias...and I guess u could spin that...so I won’t argue w you. If you like the movie that’s your opinion...not right or wrong.

[@juliey196]

TIG5574 if you like this crew fine. I’m not arguing. I just find most Collider is biased and have unsubscribed to all of it...I disagree with just about everything Millennial and Gen Z have to say so I’m sure that plays in.

[@JavierJavierLopez]

In other words Disney just copy and paste the original trilogy, so they can make money out of it.😩

[@BatTech]

Girl says its the most quote-able Star Wars, they reuse old quotes in the film!

[@baxter326]

As George Lucas said, "Star Wars has officially died."

[@James-cu9ul]

SpaceBear it’s fine we have the Witcher this weekend! 😂

[@anthonydominguez4744]

Fun fact : he wasn’t allowed to the premiere of his own creation

[@lazymansload520]

Source?

[@lazymansload520]

Anthony dominguez source?

[@bryant7369]

Have you seen the prequels? Every one of the new trilogy is better so

[@sky1luv793]

Star Wars fan since the 70's and it's just okay. Not great, but not horrible.

[@hinder57]

Ditto from 1977 till tonight... nothing will ever replace 1977 to 1983 however I'm grateful we do have something to watch and I enjoy parts of them but the original four five and six trilogy are the best and in my opinion always will be. I think we're in for a treat on this Obi-Wan film that's coming and I certainly do keep my eyes open every morning that the Mandalorian is released.... if we stay on the track of the Mandalorian in the style and in the planning and process things will keep looking up for Star Wars.

[@Lady_Justice]

Not even remotely shocked that Reilly & Roxy loved it.

[@blackrock316]

same!

[@bradwright9477]

LadyJustice Is that a crime?

[@dylandamn1]

Then he’ll say he thought of it a little more and eventually in a couple months he’ll go back on it lol

[@Lady_Justice]

@@bradwright9477 Yes. The Disney sequel trilogy is a crime.

[@jakeleeper7282]

Both their opinions mean next to nothing at this point cuz neither notice the flaws that undermine what Lucas did

[@liamdhardy]

Seems like Dorina is the only one in the room with taste and who gets Star Wars.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

With this final film, it’s safe to say that this whole trilogy is pointless. As bad as the prequels are, they at the very least had good ideas and created interesting and lasting elements that are still loved today. The Rise of Skywalker just sounds like lazy pandering that is designed to course correct from The Last Jedi. The Force Awakens was all retread and setup. The Last Jedi ignored that setup and didn’t move the plot at all while pretending to be new. This means that The Rise of Skywalker had to create, build, and conclude a trilogy’s worth of story in one film. That’s a tall order. This is probably why so many people said that this was filled with exposition and felt crammed. The most important thing this new trilogy did was kill off Han, Luke, and Leia, which sucks since those three characters added little to nothing to the story. And I hate that they are marketing this as a conclusion to a nine film saga. It’s not. It’s the conclusion to this current trilogy that they decided to pretend is a nine film story in order to lazily make this trilogy feel more important. Star Wars has so much potential, and this is what they did with it. Such a waste.

[@jesserodgers5625]

Amazing. Everything you just said is correct.

[@adlabyrinth]

Couldn’t have said it any better.

[@zairman]

Can't agree. But thanks for taking all that time to write a small essay online.

[@deadpixel-bt7rw]

You dont know that till you see it.

[@deadpixel-bt7rw]

@@jesserodgers5625 how do you know if he is right till you see it? Everyone has decided they hate it without seeing it.

[@JodeciJones]

Mark being happy, makes me really happy. Seeing how annoyed he has been with how the fan base being so angry, it’s good to see him get a win. I really hope I love it! I also knew Dorina was going to hate this movie, because she told us yesterday, before she had seen it. Was not shocked

[@JodeciJones]

Galva Tron I love the Last Jedi. I’m like Mark. I just like it all. Liking or disliking a movie doesn’t make you trash. Liking or disliking before you’ve seen it is not a good way to view thing

[@cellorojo]

@Galva Tron I actually did not like the Last Jedi but I'm definitely trash

[@lexis4490]

I think this may be more divisive then the Last Jedi. Bravo.

[@batmaneatspizza]

Last jedi is the one to blame here

[@DrAndyShick]

6:21 I hate this movie. 12:10 I didn't hate this movie.

[@leonbell5141]

A lot of people erm...”stepping out of themselves”...always a bad start...😬

[@Splintz4daWintz]

Roxy loves everything...she's obviously very easy to please.

[@booyeah6459]

16:34

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

except in her relationships :D

[@CloisForever29]

Johnny Skinwalker 💀😂

[@nicholasmallard2926]

Just like shaking keys infront of a baby! That's enough to entertain Roxy!

[@DonEnzone]

Oh my.

[@deloreanized]

"If you love Star Wars I think you're gonna love this movie". Well, it depends on what you mean by "loving" Star Wars. I love the OT and, OMG, I GET what Lucas was trying to do with the prequels. And I love Lucas for that. Now... are we seriously considering for a second... that Disney has ANYTHING to do with Star Wars?

[@TheGeorgeD13]

They have everything to do with Star Wars as they own it and make the current movies and tv shows and the like.

[@lexis4490]

Disney sells a lot of products.

[@damoncurrie7103]

Nice report Disney is an assembly line

[@user-wr5yx8tk3r]

deloreanized They have too much to do with star wars

[@XDarkBrotherhoodHD]

the OT is my 2nd favourite trilogy, I don’t mind this one either, it’s only TLJ that’s bad

[@mxbravo3108]

"There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere." This movie gets the backlash from TFA and TLJ ultimately disappointing, while it is the most solid of the three.

[@ObservantDog]

I agree. As furious as people are right now... because its the heat of the moment and it's new and all. 9 really is the best of the three. 9 might be the only one that actually felt like Star Wars. 7 was an ok start, but they played it safe, and the "bigger-badder" Death Star, was not the way to go, lol... not when the originals had already done it twice. 8 might as well have not even been a Star Wars movie at all. Felt like some totally different franchise... a Marvel movie, or Battlestar Galactica... A grizzly old hermit who tried to kill his relative for no logical reason, barely trains this girl with no name who's good at everything right away... meanwhile something-something casinos and jail and horses and slave children and an Asian girl we just met kissing her black bumbling sidekick we also just recently met, meanwhile a purple-haired person we also just met saves the day with some maneuver that basically renders every space fight before and after it meaningless... The Granny who leads the army gets blown up, but surprise, she has superpowers now for some reason. Lightsabers don't matter, Snoke doesn't matter, Rey and her mysteries don't matter, Star Wars in general, and the toys sales too, none of it matters... That's Ep. 8 in a nutshell, lol Then we get to 9... which has to explain away all the bad choices made in 8, then start from scratch, basically picking up where 7 left off... suddenly things matter again now, Lightsabers and character interactions... but plotwise there's so much going, a lot of it seemingly out of nowhere, and it's so all over the place that it's difficult to get back on this horse that so many of us have fallen so hard off of.

[@hibbityhoopla]

Agreed. TRoS is the best of the trilogy in my opinion. Close with TFA but just a bit better. It isn't perfect by any measure but it is way better than what people are claiming

[@Cbricklyne]

@@hibbityhoopla That's not saying much. It's a crap trilogy, and being the best of the worst is kind of like damning with praise.

[@gr8st2323]

I’m definitely dumber having listened to this ridiculous conversation, especially the low key cat fight. Jeezus

[@JackassJunior627]

The way these guys just talk over each other and not letting others speak, I don't think I could even sit this conversation without kicking off XD

[@TankAssTanner]

Lol....when some of the biggest Disney shills try to convince themselves for half an hour that they like this movie.

[@spicebandit8109]

People don't have to like the same things you do. Don't be an SJW. Because you're acting like one.

[@TankAssTanner]

@@spicebandit8109 Not sure what my comment has to do with being a SJW, but k....sweet burn. I have no problem with people having different tastes than I do, but a common criticism of collider is that they aren't honest in their overall opinions. They clearly pander to Disney and hold back criticism in order to gain access and to get invited to Disney/SW events. There is a reason why they get spoofed and made fun of by a lot of channels for their shaky veneer of supposed "star wars geekdom." I make fun of their lack of credibility, not for any legitimate personal taste they may have.

[@BarnesGannon]

​@@spicebandit8109 Right? The people that hate SJW's have turned into them themselves lmao

[@TankAssTanner]

@@ericacomitalo I haven't formed an opinion on it, but every movie reviewer that I actually trust and have track records of being objective in their analyses are all coming out and saying the movie is a mess. All the reviewers/sites known for being chummy with Disney and getting "exclusive early access" by Disney's PR team are all coming out saying how amazing the movie is. Shocking. I am simply laughing at collider giving the exact response that I expected from them. Nowhere did I comment on the movie being bad. I am making fun of the obvious mental twists they are doing to not say anything negative about it. I wouldn't laugh at them if I thought their opinions were genuine on the matter. Their past track record and actions speak to clearly trying to buddy up to Disney at any cost in order for access.

[@TankAssTanner]

@@ericacomitalo Like, figure it out yourself girl. I'm done mansplaining my opinion on the matter.

[@BoucherRaphael]

Split? Who would of seen that coming, flashbacks to TLJ.

[@Andres_was_here]

As much as I respect the opinions of Roxy and Riley, but Roxy got really defensive and went on very strange tangents when trying to defend the film.

[@vegetabletube7061]

They should have called this movie Star Wars: Mortal Kombat

[@t1ydot]

Exactly. You might not feel anything but the little kid sitting next to you in the theater might

[@MECHINEA]

Anakin is a complex and layered character ! A tragic character that’s goes wrong n brought back by love of his son ! There is evil pure evil n then there is good person that do evil acts! That person can be redeemed but pure evil can’t ! The emperor is evil pure evil ! He was Satan .... Vader was good n set on an evil path by tragic consequences brought back by his son ! That is what star wars is ! That ended in 6 ! 7,8,9 should of been about the 3 characters Luke ,Leia,Han with new ones inserted to gradually take over ! force ghost of Anakin so we can see interaction between the father n the twins and for sure a new Sith Lord as the bad guy not the emperor again !

[@Darkness1984]

I would call him a whiny bitch that goes crys about how unfeair the world is and goes from Jedi to killing children in a span of 10 minutes.

[@moiz_0125]

A complex character that doesn’t like sand. Well done you definitely understand good writing and ‘complex’ characters

[@adamdarby3038]

I miss Kristian...I would rather hear his thoughts.

[@husker4life109]

Adam Darby he has a channel that you can look up he talked about this before he left the show

[@husker4life109]

Lancer1131 Schmoedown entertainment network

[@husker4life109]

SEN live is his podcast

[@MrAbrissbirne]

I couldnt agree more with Dori. It is very unfortunate how this trilogy ended up.

[@ninetails2052]

25:35 LMAO

[@j04370859]

Great, another divided SW movie, dammit :(

[@TheGeorgeD13]

There's never going to be non-divisive movie in Star Wars ever again. It's been the case since Return Of The Jedi or even arguably Empire at first. Hell, I remember when the first one in '77 came out, me and my friends still argued back and forth about the movie because there were different things about it that we liked and that differed from person to person.

[@isacctavares1368]

@@TheGeorgeD13 Great point. Jedi is divisive, not that much but a lot of people hate that movie

[@ryansmith-jr4gn]

@@TheGeorgeD13 there is a difference from a movie being devisive and having differing opinions on a movie.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

@@ryansmith-jr4gn Well, Since at least the Prequels, it's been divisive no matter what the movie is. Return of the Jedi, like I said before, is also pretty divisive, though it's not as intense as it was in '83.

[@TheArtkaw]

At least Mandalorian is well liked 😀

[@LoganScottY]

Half of the table hated the movie. Half of the table loved the movie. Roughly half of the people rating the video disliked it and roughly half liked it. Balanced as all things should be.

[@MaverickAC130]

Thank you Dorina for being Honest. Roxy is just being controversial for the sake of attention. Her saying the last Terminator was great loses all credibility to me. Mark offers nothing in terms of opinion and Roxy is just trolling. Great for the show I guess

[@DanceOmega]

Mark Reilly is clearly a blind loyalist to Star Wars. Jesus Christ.

[@jakeleeper7282]

DanceOmega he always has been. Never accepts when something really is bad

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Nah, he's been very critical of how Disney has handled Star Wars in general, even if he's liked all the movies. To quote him, "If you're making something this divisive, you're doing something wrong."

[@Andres_was_here]

Or maybe he just likes the movie

[@jakeleeper7282]

Andres Torres if you’ve listened to this guy over the years he won’t admit when there’s bad stuff other than the typical prequel crap. There’s no depth to his reviews he just says they are the best thing ever

[@DanceOmega]

@@Andres_was_here He's entitled to like the movie, I'm not disagreeing with you. However when you have eleven Star Wars films. Some of which vastly differ in focus, tone, story, direction, style and you lack any sort of objectivity or depth in your "criticisms" of the film. It seems like you're not a real fan but a groupie.

[@mykiisubtle]

Roxy is deep in her feelings. "She gon' cry in the car" Lol she needs a vacation. But anyways, from the reviews, I'm not paying for a movie ticket and food for this. I'll catch it on Redbox for $2.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

she is insane

[@Bayard1503]

What's even the point of watching it 6 months later if everything has already been spoiled?

[@BarnesGannon]

Step awayyyyyyyyy from your computer, it'll all be okay.

[@mykiisubtle]

@@Bayard1503 well that's easy. I haven't read any spoilers lol

[@mykiisubtle]

@@tomiecacique it was a quote from the movie Friday lol

[@Harkness78]

Me personally, I LOVED this film.....

[@TheChardluz]

Guy in the hat just wanted to get invited to premiers, so he’s eating it up

[@razkable]

he got fired

[@Msygavyzuwbagyaisjnwvhz]

@@razkableWhy?

[@active2442]

Quotes from Empire Strikes Back can be used in actual life. We're used to learning from Star Wars. These new quotes/one liners are just empty Zingers.

[@S-T-E-V-E]

I cried, I laughed, I cheered, I shilled

[@Veritas1492]

Me, personally, I enjoyed seeing this Nerd Crew episode in 2022. Very Cool.

[@stephenmiller2544]

Cant wait for the next episode of Nerd Crew!!!

[@BigDaddy-gl7bl]

The Last Jedi was a good movie, but it was a bad Star Wars movie. It was pretty looking with good actors and memorable scenes, but what it does with the Star Wars universe and its characters was a mistake.

[@husker4life109]

KingOne so it’s a bad movie but a great Star Wars movie?

[@fuehrer_tb5597]

It is both a bad movie & bad StarWars movie.

[@husker4life109]

KingOne what lol

[@quintoblanco8746]

@@husker4life109 The movie is almost an exact copy of Empire Strikes back. Sadly, it wasn't as good.

[@ThSeth]

@@quintoblanco8746 WTF? Did we watch a different film?

[@belakthrillby]

3:44 now you understand how people who hated TLJ felt. I hope you haters of TROS don't get called racist, sexist man babies for your opinions the way many TLJ haters were.

[@craigcochran4017]

belakthrillby amen!

[@montraybrown9008]

Lmao 🤣 26:40 “when the dude came in this room wanting to talk on the mic for a second” haha 😂

[@kennethmayner]

Star Wars, much like Collider, is a shell of its former self.

[@buibuddha]

Should've watched Cats

[@LiLTailormade]

BuiBuddha cats isn’t even out yet 😑😑😑

[@jeremy-thomas7265]

Enough said

[@b.r3228]

"it is the most star wars movie I have ever seen" oh mark... You have lost all credibility with that line

[@skater0224]

B. Reich I love Mark, but yeah same here ( for his Star Wars take)

[@megatron111184]

Did you see it? Cuz I was able and it was very solid. Hated the last Jedi btw.

[@skater0224]

Jaleel Brown I hate the Last Jedi too, and... Spoilers I said I would be done if I saw another Death Star and I heard it did. Originality and story telling is non existent in this new trilogy. It’s amazing how this trilogy just exists for the purity of just having Star Wars.

[@megatron111184]

@@skater0224 SPOILERSSSSS DON'T READ THIS YOU BEEN WARNED The planet destroyer in this was a bit different. But with that said I understand why someone would be mad. That and the kiss really annoyed me. But my friend that I saw it with brought up a good point imo. Of course palpatine would think just making a fleet of those would work. With that being said the lightsaber battles are great. We get to see Rey ACTUALLY training (love that her master is Leia) . Kylo development over these three movies was one of the best things imo. But I'm genuinely wanna know other peoples civil opinions. I'm ok with ppl not liking this movie let's just RISE above all the name calling and having to choose sides.

[@skater0224]

Jaleel Brown That’s so interesting. Kylo is my favorite character in this new trilogy so if they gave him more stuff to do that’s great. Also hearing good lightsaber fights is really all I want, and also the majority of the fans. Just look at what saved the prequels ( Maul/Qui Gon fight, etc ). The force and lightsaber fights are the heart and soul of Star Wars, so those hearing those two things does make me a little hopeful. I haven’t heard too much of people liking this more than TLJ. From what I am hearing is that JJ tried to heal the damage too much that it was too late , maybe wrongly done. I would have to see it to truly see if anything great could have come following TLJ. I just find it odd that TLJ has a high RT score and was just as divisive , or it seems Iike it, with ROS, with a low score. Like I said I’m pretty disappointed in this new weapon , but, even though the story might not be the best ( just like FA ) just give me a good lightsaber fight and I’ll be happy. That’s the lowest standard I would have for a Star Wars movie , which obviously didn’t even happen for me in TLJ. So yeah, maybe like you , it’ll like ROS much more

[@LPlandOFazul]

I don't agree that it was paint by numbers. I was surprised by a lot of elements. However, I wasn't looking for those elements. To me, TFA was SO much more a copy of A New Hope. Again I feel like a lot of people are looking for things to be angry about. I thought it was a fun movie...what's wrong with that?

[@joe2199]

I agree with you

[@ryan.smith01]

My problem with this sequel trilogy is there no outline & it just feels like they had no idea where to take this story. If your making a trilogy, you should have at least have an idea where you want your characters to go & the overall story you want to tell. Also if your going to have 3 different directors for the 3 movies you should at least have a discussion & decide where you want to take the story because if you don’t it just feels like a tonal mess. There was so much potential that TFA set up, Who Is Snoke?, Why did Ben Solo turn to the darkside?, Who are Rey’s parents? They seemed to just go with the least interesting possible options instead of going with something that actually brings depth to the story. That being said I am going to go into the movie with an open mind & wanting to love it, like I do with every movie. Everything I’ve heard about it has me worried, but I will always give a movie a chance.

[@Courier_333]

You're not alone brother

[@anthonymerighi3032]

29:49 is literally what I’ve been saying, we all love Star Wars but y’all ain’t going to question Disney now after they f*cked up a trilogy with not creating a whole story from beginning to end... we as fans are now divided as ever because behind the scenes Disney didn’t know what to do with Star Wars. And i think we all lose out because if you really think about it, if they sat down and really thought about a clear story arc, none of this division would have happened i feel. It really is a shame and for being a lover of Star Wars and the lore and story telling, Disney really cut us short on that one and that’s what sucks the most.

[@hairychest1666]

Why do the 2 girls hate each other in this video?

[@sjaakverduijn9315]

girls with there emotions and feelings, what's new??

[@Davidsworldtravels]

Girls always hate coworkers

[@cinecraze6240]

Roxy is making this whole conversation unwatchable. To suggest you think Disney had a plan is unbelievable. Anybody with common sense knows there was no plan period. This was basically throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. Dorina is the most honest and level headed person in this discussion. The other two are all caught up in their feelings and can’t admit this sequel trilogy is a failure. Oh btw the best part of The Rise of Disappointment is that Red Letter Media will have a Mr. Plinkett review that will 100% more honest and realistic than those two shills and much more entertaining than the actual movie.

[@danielbayliss1030]

Cine Craze Ian McDiarmid was literally called up right before they did this movie😂😂😂

[@francisbartoszewski2284]

Of course there was no plan, that's because Rian Johnson threw it out the window. He killed snoke who was clearly going to be the big bad for the entire trilogy (and probably plagueis), meaning in 2-3 months JJ had to completely rewrite this one to fix his clusterfuck and somehow pull out a new big bad super evil force. I mean the first hour of this movie wasn't ep 9 but ep 8.5 where it was course correcting and setting up what TLJ should have set up, thus leaving only 90 mins for ep 9. All this is Rian Johnsons fault.

[@specialk4006]

Does Roxy gargle with paint thinner every morning?

[@spartacusx9349]

Special K deez nutz meme

[@bryce253]

Oh that strange chick Roxy is obsessed with it?! TRASH CONFIRMED!! 😂😂

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

I've grown to appreciate Roxy over time, but her being "obsessed" with this movie is definitely not a good sign.

[@AVarStunts]

You guys are adults calling people “strange” for really enjoying something...cool

[@tariqnahr2096]

@@AVarStunts she is wearing cat ears my dude.

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

@@AVarStunts when somebody's seemingly genuine opinions seem to be contrary to popular opinion almost every time, I think the strange moniker is appropriate. I don't think Roxy tries to be a contrarian, but somehow she almost always ends up looking like one.

[@SuperTonyony]

I'm calling it: In the first post-TROS novel, Rey's parents will be revealed as having been called "Skip" and "Sheila", and Rey will refer to her grandfather as "Pop-pop Palpatine".

[@alphacause]

Great review guys! I love seeing well articulated perspectives from diametrically opposing sides, but that is done respectfully.

[@soccerdude12793]

“If you like Star Wars you’re going to like this movie.” I feel like that isn’t accurate at all

[@yutaniskynet2653]

I feel like its completely accurate. This movie was incredible.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Yes it is, kids and us non pouty adults will love it. It's only you delusional adults out there that think star wars is in some "State" like it's changed or something. It's always been the same...for children. Be lucky you can watch it at all...SmFh.!!!

[@soccerdude12793]

Ryon Webster So if I don’t blindly accept a movie and feel it deserves criticism I’m delusional? A movie can be for kids and still be well-made

[@yutaniskynet2653]

@@soccerdude12793 and this movie is well acted, fantastically directed giving the crippling Johnson predecessor, has a tight script considering all the studio issues... It is beautiful.

[@yutaniskynet2653]

But people will continue to talk shit because its the snowball effect of zietgiest culture hate... People that hate it have too many emotional and unreasonable expectations. It is a story about Rey and Kylo. We are lucky and blessed the OG actors came back for as long as they did. What a great film!!!

[@MarkaNgamer]

Dear Dorina - well I don't have the reason to see The Last Jedi again.

[@IIPapaMurphII]

5:10 "Rey is a badass and I love how they built that" I'm sorry WHEN did they "build" that? At no point in any of the previous episodes did she receive the required training to defeat any sith lord. I hate her character cause she's a Mary Sue (and no I don't hate women I hate bad storytelling). Doesn't matter if you're a sith or a jedi it requires TRAINING to defeat your enemies.

[@dontpanic1812]

That is true. I now look at Rey like I do many other people I know who are just good at nearly everything they do. Sagittarians are notorious for this. Since they're naturally good at so many things, often their greatest trials lay in picking something to focus on, avoiding boredom, getting better at things they're already good at, figuring out things they have difficulty understanding and finding their place in the world-- things of which most of us can relate. I helps to see her as a natural, rather than a Mary Sue. We all have known some. We can determine she's a rarity who is more sensitive to the impressions of the force, more intimately connected to it than most force sensitive workers are, that she is capable of listening to it and following its dictates more easily. Once we think of her like that, her lack of training, though not excused, is well compensated by necessity, her openness and her will. Remember how she tapped into the dark side so easily, scaring the shit out of Luke? Remember how flabbergasted she's been after doing something she had no idea she could do. Rather charismatic and endearing, if you ask me. Sagittarians are usually arrogant in those types of situations and she's been anything but. Hope this helps you out. I know it's the biggest beef fans have with her. Thinking of her in this fashion brings us closer to seeing her like Luke-- a gangly, inexperienced, eager do-gooder, bent on amounting to something and having an adventure along the way. Traits she shares combined with traits he didn't have. Training is normally necessary. But, maybe Rey isn't all that normal. Good thought, Papa. Hope you feel the same 'bout mine. Cheers.

[@StanvilleBrown]

Aman bro!

[@MDBrook58]

DORINA LITERALLY IS ON THE DARK SIDE AND SHE JUST SAID THAT SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Courier_333]

These people are in a god damn bubble

[@Courier_333]

@@digital_waffles yea lol

[@razkable]

kathleen made these 3 films to make rey into luke for future girls to I guess look up to?..glad it gets backlash from everyone an failed....tfa gets hate from anyone whose seen a new hope and return of jedi last jedi gets hate from anyone who likes luke and rise will get hate from last jedi fans and anyone who likes anakin's arc

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Keep in mind people....these films are for children, and their target audience is and always will be children. Love all 11 star wars films and love the Mandelorian. Can't wait to see it, so excited.👍 Great video guys & girls.!!!!🤘👍👍

[@booyeah6459]

Kids deserve better....

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@booyeah6459 kids love them...what are you talking about.?????

[@notmason7766]

@@booyeah6459 I grew up on the prequels (which I love because it's a part of my childhood), but they aren't good movies. Based off of what you said, I deserved better.

[@booyeah6459]

@@notmason7766 You did...the prequels were ok movies that had great parts to them...at least they stick to the story of Star Wars unlike the Di$ney sequels..

[@kobe8915]

Anybody knows the name of the host sitting on the right of the screen?

[@mantra4ia]

I found my new dinner table catchphrase, because I can't seem to talk politics, faith, or Star Wars at the table anymore. I'm going to say: "it was color by numbers in a way that offended me." I will wear that on a t-shirt so that its ambiguous enough to quell 90% of the people who want to follow-up armed for an fight / argument, and clear enough to set the record straight to the other 10% without personally attacking anyone else's opinion or experience. Thank you Coy, well spoken.

[@robjvmedia260]

Roxy, c'mon. The OG Trilogy NEVER gave the audience a choice like it was some MMORPG...but the culture wasn't as relativistic as it is now, not in the main at least.

[@jenniferariesta6635]

At least we can admit nobody goes out of the theatre simply meh about TROS. It's either love or hate. I was at first heartbroken after seeing it, but now i feel amused by the great divide. I guess I've just been numbed by the ending.

[@dogg311]

As a Star Wars fan I feel insulted that Roxy said they listen An came up with this movie. It’s the most rushed all over the place Star Wars movie ever . Who asked for Rey palpatine an the for her to take the skywalker name

[@deadpixel-bt7rw]

I think you guys have a deep misunderstanding of what star wars is about. This whole light vs dark and pick a side is perfect for a finale to this saga because star wars is about light vs dark and those two sides finding balance and that things are more complex than just good and bad.

[@WonOneWun]

I hate the arguments that it’s for “the fans” in a fan too I just want a cohesive and competent plot with my pretty space and lightsaber battles and maybe throw in some philosophical force discussion

[@jmaice83616]

Cody Hall had me dying laughing during this review! 🤣🤣🤣

[@EthanDeRose]

Roxies problem is she doesn't know what a good movie is so she settles for trash and her arrogant attitude is gross af.

[@rammiine]

I don't think she is being arrogant. I think she just really enjoyed a movie and is explaining and defending her feelings towards it as is the whole purpose of a review lol....

[@thatfilmgeekguy]

Sword of the Morning When she brought politics into the discussion it was just embarrassing.

[@SerferTJ]

Viko1188 or maybe she just has different opinions than you.....

[@abigail6394]

On this show I only trust Dorina's reviews. The others shouldn't be considered critics imho

[@rajabcroswell9020]

So it is definitely safe to say that whatever movie that Roxy "loves" is utter trash. What is she even doing on this pod cast? She knows nothing about film at all.

[@user-mq6kd6mf1v]

I used to do the same thing with my sister, if she enjoyed a movie, I knew never to watch it.

[@cinemalover4027]

Completely agreed

[@ZimLi]

I agree with Roxy, this movie is quotable... love the part when they say "They fly now" three times just to emphasize it was a joke. Love it.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Roxy is like it's a great year for movies(again Ms. easy to please). Again Dorina is right, what's the point if people are not watching them. (obviously not talking about SW)

[@kennethbryant5819]

Well, it was a great year for movies but I bet all the movies she likes were shit but we had movies like Parasite, Once Upon a Time, Midsommer, Lighthouse, Us, Joker, even Endgame.

[@allisonrussell5160]

So many great points made from different sides! I was very impressed by how well each of you worked around spoilers but I wish that you could have elaborated more on the specific examples you were referring to. I really enjoyed this review!

[@jordanray8470]

How could anyone take Reilly's opinion seriously lmaoooo

[@Bmrk349]

Homie said he cried lmao

[@DonEnzone]

@@Bmrk349 I'm sure I'd cry too.

[@dannysanchez9919]

Wth is up with roxy today. She took her dorina hate pills today

[@enriqueaguilar3082]

Danny Sanchez she is stupid she really Thinks this trillogy was good lmao

[@Darkness1984]

@@enriqueaguilar3082 You probably think the prequels are good, rofl

[@cartoonking1789]

Darkness1984 Hell of a lot better than the Disney trilogy.

[@bestman29307]

How does someone like the last Jedi it was awful?

[@carlosgerman5519]

Well the prediction of the Fans equally split than the critics did not come true... 86%

[@DooM702bjj]

I cant trust some of these critics, they seem fake af. I'm heading to Jeremy jahns and Tyrone magnus.

[@jjboogie502]

DooM HomeGrown same. And they both HATED it. Especially Tyrone lol

[@onepunchsaitama5081]

Just wait until redlettermedia reviews it.

[@crisp3891]

Well they both hated it! 😂

[@yutaniskynet2653]

So does that mean you will hate it immediately as well without having the intuition and intellect to form your own opinion?

[@DooM702bjj]

Will see tomorrow, hoping for the best. I will review it as a whole story not an individual movie.