We ride Honda's first electric motorcycle for Europe: The EM1 e scooter | MCN Review

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[@jothain]

That swappable battery is the concept I want to see, but it absolutely needs to get modular and interchangeable module. I'd be so interested IF I could use it as powerbank for like lawnmovers etc. We absolutely need some opensource thing from manufacturers where they commit to make certain standard connection, size and voltage. Just make the batterypacks modular to increase in size. When that happens and I'm sure that it's mandatory to happen, I'm very very interested in (also) small electric vehicles. I want to ie. insert battery to my solarpower system for recharge and use as powerbank there. I want to be able to take that battery to completely other uses too. Why you industry giants can't accomplish that? Heck you've pretty much standardized everything else, but this proprietary battery thing doesn't work in long run. Please make it happen 🙏🏻

[@3rduncle]

Seat make an electric scooter with a laptop sized removable battery. Its extremely popular in Spain. By far the most common electric scooter. Does up to 65mph.

[@jothain]

@@3rduncle I didn't even know that Seat makes scooters. I hope manufacturers sit on same table and discuss about making "universal" batteries.

[@omerta2002]

​@@3rduncle That battery is not "laptop" sized at 40kg it's more old Mac tabletop.

[@grahamx8623]

Don't China have a swapable battery network for scooters? That's the answer to making larger bikes viable as tourers. Will it happen in the UK? I don't know many bikers who want to give up petrol just yet.

[@omerta2002]

@@grahamx8623 Silence a Spanish company & the maker of the aforementioned Seat scooters has had swapable battery network up and running for quite some time in Spain. Granted it's not A-Z but st least it exists.

[@willewinky]

It looks ideal for public transport workers who need to get into work before first service of busses/trains. In Glasgow there are plenty of free motorcycle parking bays and my employer (Scotrail) say its up to you be on time/get home from a traincrew shift. This scooter is the ideal solution.

[@mikiex]

According to the Honda website 30 to 48km range, 2500+ charges thats 75,000 to 112,000+ kms..even then the battery won't be dead.

[@Vinrx7]

At this point in time, you cant beat the Honda grom and the Kawasaki Z125 Pro. My Z125 pro goes 60mph and gets 90 mpg. 🏍

[@timscott3027]

I am looking forward to honda bringing out a bigger version with 2 batteries, 40mph + top speed and a 50 mile range, it will be much more use to more people, i would consider that if the price was good. This is just too weak for me, it falls in a nomans land of usefulness. I would rather ride my ebike.

[@claudesigma3784]

You can carry a second battery if you want, but keep in mind that the battery is the third of the price of the entire thing. Most people don't want to pay for that.

[@WillyEarl098]

It should have pedals on It. 😂 at least you might get back to civilization...

[@shadowred1980]

It's not so much about this bike, but the swappable battery tech and implementation which is interesting.

[@WillyEarl098]

What kind of battery though? Swappable doesn't mean green or easily recyclable, that the biggest issue with battery technology...a lot of builders, but standardized solid state tech is still a long term prospect. ...recycling is not even possible on any scale...like for lead acid batteries that are the majority recycled.

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

28mph? That's what my $999 ebike can do.

[@allwheeldrive]

Legislation/road rules dictate here, plus who the target user and use case is.

[@trialsta1]

E-bikes are limited to 15.5mph in Europe, so yours would be illegal

[@maximXX]

😂😂

[@maximXX]

​@@trialsta1ooh!😂bet he's worried!

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@maximXXMight not be worried now. But he'll probably be annoyed when they seize and crush his bike.

[@3kdn]

No mention of the distance between charges. No cost of battery replacement. No good!

[@joeblow5037]

Those little housing cubicles on the barges are what caught my eye 👀

[@arthurdunga345]

push it in the water behind

[@allwheeldrive]

Nicely informed response to progress. Have to start somewhere, and to get "there" you must go "through it." All product development is like that. All of it.

[@Rick-ve5lx]

“When we aren’t even allowed to drive anymore…” That’s the spirit.

[@WillyEarl098]

That's the Globalists/ progressives agenda, for the peasants, they'll keep their ICE engines.. to fly to meet in Davos, and other virtuos locales of the rich and famous...

[@Apollo949]

What was the range on a full charge? You didn't tell us.

[@mikrobyo1790]

25.7 mi Powertrain and battery The EM1 e: has a claimed range of 41.3 km (25.7 mi) in its normal operating mode, rising to 48.0 km (29.8 mi) in ECON mode. Testing indicated a real-world range of 22.1 mi (35.6 km). Its bad dont buy this

[@Apollo949]

@@mikrobyo1790 That was very helpful. Thanks and god bless you.

[@jonathandavies6862]

I work in a motorbike dealership right and Halfords building bicycles and e bikes before that and these will be so difficult to sell. No storage compared to say a piaggio liberty/medley or honda pcx. Nowhere near the same distance on a fill up whether or not it's cheaper is negligible to most people. Scooters get 100mpgs easy nowadays and worst of all 28mph! Can't even keep up with most traffic in the UK. Most ebikes are the best solution to inner city transport not this with gear and licensing it just doesn't work. No inspiring incentive to get one. What a shame

[@JohnBaxendale]

Great points, but one counter would be that the biggest issue with eBikes is that they're very easily nickable, I'd feel much happier parking something heavier and less obviously nickable like this in a city centre, than I would my eBike. For my use-case of nipping to the shops, this would be more attractive!

[@jrewillis]

​@@JohnBaxendalepcx is the most nicked bike in the UK currently. Motorcycle theft is mental. At least you can walk your ebike into a shop if needed or lock it up inside somewhere.

[@JohnBaxendale]

@@jrewillis Over here I've had problems taking a folding electric scooter into shops, at the moment they're even banned on the metro/tram systems! (Barcelona, Spain)

[@jrewillis]

​@JohnBaxendale yesh e scooters are an issue here in the uk. But ebikes are fine. Honestly still think id just buy a pcx for the cost of this. I did 145mpg on mine. £11 takes you 250 miles +. Minimal service costs. Quicker. Not loud. Still ULEZ capable. And will outlast the electric one.

[@DBolt-xb7sg]

Given the fuel consumption figures of smaller mopeds i dont really see how this thing makes a whole lot of sense.

[@guntherd.2005]

For people who need to store it in the hallway, no smelly fumes are pleasent.

[@ScoobyFermentation]

“Husky” is the last word I would use for you little buddy.

[@matthew3136]

American here. Thinking the same. Must be different in the UK.

[@scheun2]

I like electric but I don't like batteries at this stage. Hopefully better alternatives is on the horizon. Thanks for video👍

[@karlosh9286]

me too. Electric motors good, current lithium ion batteries bad !

[@p2e]

disappointing specs. low max speed, battery takes up substantial storage space, slow charge time.

[@GeorgeOu]

£3000 or $3667 is outrageously expensive when it's only $1150 for the same product in China.

[@GaryV-p3h]

You're asleep for 6-8 hours every night & you can't drive it when you're asleep so charging any electric vehicle that takes any less than that to charge will never be a problem.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Sleep driving

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

I guess that space under the seat is big enough for a sleeping bag if it runs out on the road away from home 🤣

[@GaryV-p3h]

@@starfox_wr-45e93 Obviously you wouldn't buy any electric vehicle that didn't have sufficient range for your daily use, there are vehicles for 99.9% of people's needs already available & the technology is improving rapidly each year.

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@GaryV-p3h It's not that simple though, is it. Things happen everyday that isn't in your control. You might buy thinking it's fine, then something happens.. now you're stuck for 6-8 hrs, pretty much helpless. Or spending even more money on transportation, recovery fees etc. This isn't even a consideration an issue with fuel... unless you breakdown, which EV's are not immune to either.

[@GaryV-p3h]

@@starfox_wr-45e93 My point is you wouldn't buy a scooter either petrol or electric if you had a commute of 200 miles a day to do, you'd buy something more capable & more suited to the task, this scooter is only designed for city commuting & that's what it will be bought to do. Horses for courses, as the old saying goes.

[@Deadonkey85]

Or could just buy a 125 and do full speed limit. Can recharge it in seconds with a few quid of fuel

[@GaryV-p3h]

Nice to see Honda getting on board with the electric revolution.

[@antmoto6668]

Come on MCN, really you need to get your facts straight and not regurgitate the same old myths over and over. * - 2000 cycles is to 80%. You can still use the battery long after that. And 2000 cycles is what…10 years or 50 thousand miles! * - Batteries are 98% recyclable. * - Nearly half of new batteries made now don’t use cobalt. LFP for example. * - Even if you made the electricity from burning coal (which we don’t) the whole life emissions of an EV are half that of a fossil fuel vehicle. This was proven way back in 2009 by the King review.

[@robertnichols6911]

Baa

[@Le_Sourpuss]

charging it every day the battery will last 6 years only. And it probably costs half of the price of the entire vehicle if not more.

[@kramnam4716]

What’s the range??? Pretty basic information missing here

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

Approx. 7 years battery life if charged everyday. Which wouldn't be bad, except for the cost of the things, monetary or otherwise.

[@rlw85]

Wouldn’t 30mph be more appropriate If bikes £3000.00 new leasing for £80-£100 is very expensive

[@lasskinn474]

45km/h it's slated to be is to be a "moped", no motorbike license etc(but still not a bicycle). I suppose it's an alternative for a more expensive ebike, that's a class below this. but really they can't yet match price and utility in 125cc scooters yet with electric, in the actual mass market of motorbikes of asia. and f going on the road over here in something that goes only 45kph even just across the city.

[@JayKay730i]

Review aimed at UK and scooters ridden by a 16 year olds are limited to 28MPH by law. I’d imagine it could be de-restricted.

[@TheGreatestBeyonder]

I wouldn’t “hope” it was around £3000 😮

[@olumarkfatungase7556]

No one is hoping it will cost that much for this bike

[@imprisonedone8054]

@@olumarkfatungase7556its going to be my guess 3500 euros.

[@quasimodo8215]

Range?

[@joeblow5037]

Until you get run over by a Prius.

[@quasimodo8215]

@@joeblow5037 😆👍✌

[@davidbarton7463]

No mention of these batteries potentially burning your house down while you sleep. That's assuming the shipping companies allow these EV's to be cargo in the future. I would say that this electric adventure is going to be short lived much like the alleged range of most of them.

[@EJK1965]

As Russia and China scrabble for lithium mining dominance in Africa, Bolivia and god knows where else, and all the water consumption proplems which are and will increasingly continue to displace huge amounts of people, I for one will remain immensely sceptical of electric battery vehicles and all the hidden destruction they do.

[@blacksunaccounts]

How the heck can i but this in america?

[@typhoontim125]

No mention of RANGE in your video?? WTF??? Apparently it's just over 40km...some electric bicycles do 3 times that!

[@tupo3855]

This isnt a full review, they want you to subscribe to the mag for all the info.

[@dune6727]

It's 50km range as he says in 5.30 odd,

[@typhoontim125]

@@dune6727 He didn't. At 5.30 he was clearly talking about top speed, not range.

[@typhoontim125]

@@tupo3855 It's an absolute nonsense to post a video review and not mention arguably the most important spec of them all, range.

[@dune6727]

@@typhoontim125 noted I thought he said range

[@furstyferret81]

That's really just a bicycle, we need an electric Forza!

[@olumarkfatungase7556]

£80-£100 per month is a terrible deal for 28miles per hour

[@Frenchcrop]

How many times can you say “errr”?

[@Davidee-14]

I love this electric scooter. Where can I to buy it in Austin MN?

[@Dogecoin-gp2qm]

Piaggio active 1 though I like the design is so faulty that you find flood of second hand ones sold for nothing because it simply doesn't work, has to many problems, which is a shame from such a big company like that. There are better electric moped around but the problem of them all are lack of spare parts and prepared mechanic

[@harmenboender2699]

That's not a motorbike. It's an electric moped scooter.

[@maximXX]

Husky! He sounds like a chipmunk 😂

[@pelham8910]

The fact that making a battery powered vehicle makes 80% more emissions than a ICE version to make that one time, equivalent to driving between .5 and 3.5 years, is more than made up for by the fact it reduces emissions by two thirds all the time it is used (MIT study using US power grid). Putting doubt in people's minds is oil industry FUD. You have to go to Poland with their Soviet era coal fired power plants to find any cause for pause. Also, how many kilometres/miles usually go on a bike before it's worn out? In North America, the battery should last the life of the bike for a normal user. For instance, the Piaggio 1 active's battery is rated to go 52800 kms (800 full cycles X range in sport mode) at up to 38 mph. That's a pretty high mileage for an in-town scooter. That's around 10 years of work commuting to an office 10 kms away.

[@npalmi88]

>bikes name: EM1 >narrator: “so the M 1 E…” mfw

[@gonhag6624]

Ok since it’s not that fast, and electric. Can You use it on bike roads in the city? Not riding at full speed obviously. There are some escooters faster than that actually, that are riding on bike roads.

[@marcussterdy1702]

Just get a Honda pcx 125 top speed 73mph keep up with all traffic

[@wesleycardinal8869]

I don't see a market for these. Why wouldn't you just get an e-scooter instead?

[@reidspeed77]

Crush it

[@jeanogburn5730]

Where can I get to try one

[@PaulBriden]

Can we have MPH all the time please, or both. I live in the UK as do you. We have never been kilometers. No good for Americans or people watching in the UK. It is not good enough.

[@CraigShawCraigShaw]

Look,... It's 'okay'. But slow to charge. And slow to ride. Removable battery sounds like a sensible idea, but I would quickly grow tired of having to pull it out and schlep it upstairs to charge. A cheapo petrol scooter still sounds much more practical. But kudos to Honda for dipping a toe into the water.

[@jrewillis]

Tell you now it aint gonna be £3k. More like £4-4500 i reckon. Pcx atm is over £3000

[@cuckoonut1208]

That thing won't sell in India. Honda needs to beef it up a bit.

[@fazerjohn]

As you say, 28mph is a deathtrap joining ring roads, I cant see cars giving way as you try to pull on / off in rush (no pun intended) hour. Hope the throat is better.

[@MassDynamic]

Dafuq. Whybthe vid title says motorcycle if it's a scooter/moped?

[@Wize817]

My $600 ebike can do 28mph and has adjustable Full Suspension, Adjustable seat, not to mention a lot more than this eScooter! 😅 Honda lagging so hard they becoming a expensive joke.

[@dnuno75]

It is outrageous that Honda proposes such miserably paltry specs and overall cheap look... for practically double the price of the wonderful PCX 125 - in my country at least !!

[@neilheyes6651]

The batteries are the problem for me with the current technology, if as promised the solid state technology will be a game changer, or even better synthetic fuel. But lets be honest, up to arguably at point of use which is highly debatable, they aren't good for the environment or occasionally setting ships on fire

[@mhult5873]

I agree with you that the battery capacity is a problem. Do you think it´s a problem with the motor characteristics and "feel" when riding a electric vehicle? For me the problem as well is the characteristics and sound of electrical vehicles, which for me is a major part in riding a mc. It´s more a problem than the range of batteries, for me. Electrical "motorcycles" are just a sewing machine with two wheels and a very annoying engine "whining sound." Compare this to my f750GS. which has an ICE engine that sounds and feels in the vibrations like, in my opinion, an engine, it has good range, good Euro exhaust rating so no local pollution and above all it´s a joy to ride a MC for me. Ok, my car can be electric, the bus I sit on can be electric, I don´t care if trucks are electric. But I will never EVER ride a electric sewing machine with two wheels, even if it´s called a "motorcycle" by others. Take care! BR

[@JohnBaxendale]

For a start, that ships fire wasn't caused by the EV's. Secondly, sythentic fuel is about 6quid+ a litre, I'm pretty sure i'd rather charge a battery for less than 1/10th of the cost. Solid state batteries have been promised by Toyota and the likes for about 20 years and still nowhere near in-market - they just say that every year to keep people waiting and buying their ICE vehicles because they missed the curve with EV's.

[@motorcyclemadness6006]

In what way is making the battery filthy? Isn’t having fuel boiled split refined cleaned filtered Shipped road hauled pumped up to a dozen or more times treated with chemicals some of which are mostly out of new batteries delivered for every journey and burnt permanently filthy? When hasn’t mining been used in manufacturing? Don’t start about rare earth not so rare metal’s + minerals- swallow what you like but don’t massively exaggerate it your supposed to be balanced ,stop giving the oil only lie’s Creedence we need different tech for different applications help people make accurate decision’s based on balance.. 🤦‍♂️

[@jothain]

I'm not electric fanboy, but I fully agree there. It's very hyppocrite to say mining for battery materials is filthy. Let's face it. Pretty much all mining for nickel, zinc, iron, coal etc. etc. etc. IS environment effecting production in many locations around the globe. But ie. Finland is launching some lithium mining operations and I'd very much suspects that it's fairly enviromentally safe production location compared to countries like Russia, many eastern countries that don't give a flying f about end results.

[@andrewlucas6214]

Just to get a bit of perspective. Two world wars, two thousand nuclear tests and an industrial revolution and the planet is fine. Think of the tiny demographic motorcycles in this country represent and you see the utter stupidity of targeting them. Nothing against electric vehicles, they can be a great alternative but, trying to argue that making them to replace something that’s tried and tested is highly suspicious.

[@trialsta1]

Oi stop objectively comparing the two industries, that's not what people want! You're supposed to solely focus on the impact of resource extraction for batteries whilst conveniently ignoring it for fossil fuels!

[@jothain]

@@trialsta1 That indeed is the "standard"😁

[@petervisi5369]

I see how it will disappoint everyone especially Honda due to lack of sales. Maybe liked in Asian cities with metroplis density population, but it won't be really popular in Europe.

[@barney3417]

EV's will go the same way as the diesel revolution!! hopefully!

[@steve-wu7jp]

28 mph

[@Undetected.Dimensions]

price should be under 1000 pound

[@sverremoe4087]

Im sort of ashamed that every other cool bike review happends in cool places around the world....BUT when my country (norway) finaly has a new motorcycle review....its this 😂😂

[@JayKay730i]

Oh no, that must be annoying! I’d love to go to Norway but, my wife won’t go on holiday to anywhere that is cold 😂

[@michaeljhonny9570]

Unknown extremely low budget Chinese or Indian manufacturers can do better than this at half the price...shame on you Honda for releasing such a pos of a scooter😂

[@PatricaBuckley-g2j]

2 scooters 2 batterys 2 plugs 3 pin can bring to my door patricia buckley rehan 1:41 1:43

[@winstonsvictorygin]

Jeez, if I only had a £ for every time he says errr!

[@903lew]

Considering NiU and Silence/Seat offer 70-90 km/h this is quite disappointing. But it’s a moped, not a 125-replacement. I’m not sure Honda is onto the right track here, why buy this and not a cheaper L3-equivalent (reasonable ones go for about 2k GBP here)? Me, I love small electrical scooters. But I’m not sure that Honda with decisions like this might be overrun by the Chinese much like they themselves outran the English way back when.

[@alphajet2145]

I think the Honda EM1e has got an argument : reliability. If you look at the battery's power relative to the scooter range, they keep a bit of energy margin, presumably for the BMS to optimize the battery life. And Honda has got to be one of the most reliable brand on the planet, that may be their bet.

[@903lew]

@@alphajet2145 It's a brave bet considering the prices on batteries are dropping fast.

[@fredstah714]

And to make ethanol produces more carbon than gas. All politics!

[@roodick85]

Lol that's a rebranded scooter for years ago 😅

[@paulbailey6567]

Over 115 er's or erm's in 11 minutes. That's gotta be a record

[@xSMOKExEMxALLx]

28 MPH. Thats the speed it went before removing the speed limiter! Oh snap I forgot you're in UK & not Canada, where we get away with doing that stuff! lmfao. 🤷‍♂

[@JayKay730i]

People remove limiters in the UK all the time, so not sure where you’re getting your info from. I have a racing exhaust on my bike and have never even been stopped 🤷‍♂️

[@matthewm7666]

I have electric stand up scooters and this looks terrible. There is so much more space for more battery and more motor and they don't use it. Make it do 70+ mph and have a 100+ mile range. Otherwise a Grom is always going to be a better way to go... Maybe that's Honda's goal? To make such terrible electric vehicles that people get repulsed by the word electric and start fighting against this electric trend.

[@LiviuXSA]

the kind of speed and range this thing gets, you're far off better doing what our ancestors did - just walk everywhere.... be thin and healthy. this is something for a 300kg american like in WALL-E

[@Ritte13]

All electric vehicles should be boycotted as the fire risk is increasing everyone’s insurance….it’s not the future 😮

[@jothain]

I'm not electric fanboy, but I disagree with you. There's already very stable battery technologies. I can't recall the name, but there is very similar power density tech that's very stable. I'm not fully sure but I think it's lifepo, possibly? It's there if you search for it. Businesses just need to make them safe.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Petrol engines are 3 times more exposed to fire than electric

[@jothain]

@@andrewstorm8240Actually very legit point. At home looking around and within less than minute I can think of about 10 lithium powered devices. Thinking how much there are them in every single modern households, it's quite surprising how little incidents happen. Absolutely not saying they're safe, but I can't recall any nearby household fires from them. But I immeadiately remember about three petrol engine car fires from little amount of people I know and they've been all like 10 year old cars, all within like 5 years 🤷🏻

[@mhult5873]

@@andrewstorm8240 Well, petrol engines are, I guess, about 3000 times more common than electric engines, so this explains if petrol engines catch fires more often in absolute numbers then electric engines and batteries? BR

[@jep1103]

Never ever would I buy a electric vehicle. Have we really grown to be so stale and boring

[@allwheeldrive]

So...have you actually ever driven for ANY length of time ANY EV? They are not only NOT bad, they are different and - the mature products out there - are quite good. Armchair critics...

[@mhult5873]

@@allwheeldrive I tried an electric bicycle. This was enough for me. I will never buy an electric sewing machine with two wheels, even if it´s called a "motorcycle" by manufacturers or anyone else. I can accept having an electric car, although not willingly. I could accept an electric bicycle, although I can´t imagine I would ever need one (a normal bicycle is fine for me. I don´t need a motor on a bicycle). But I will never, ever, ride a electric sewing machine with two wheels, I will stick to normal motorcycles. The engine characteristic, exhaust sound and vibrations in the chassi are wayyyy to important to me. I´d rather travel (by planes?) to other countries to ride a normal petrol motorcycle than any electric "motorcycle", or not ride at all. Take care. Br.

[@mhult5873]

Electrical ”motorbikes” are all just sewing machines with two wheels. No experience of an internal combustion engine and the vibrations in the chassi from the ICE, no manual gears, no exhaust system, just a irritating electric engine noise. I will never ride an electric sewing machine with two wheels, whether it called electric ”motorcycle” or not. Also the electricity is often produced using fossil fuels, e.g. coal power plants. Br. Ps. The only exception, perhaps, being a scooter for commuting shorter distances, maybe I could try this. Take care! Br.

[@jothain]

That's you. But ie. your grandchildren might have very different view. I love bikes. I have three of them right now, but I'd be willing to use ie. electric car or bike as commuter if it's efficient and cheap to drive/ride. Also as interested in enduro and owning one and being privlidged to ride in one of the cleanest natural environments where I live, I'd be interested in well performing enduro bike even from local pollution standpoint, although that's likely not going to happen in near future. Tech is just not there.

[@mhult5873]

@@jothain Thanks for your reply! =) - I understand you. I like your interest in nature and environment. I also think the same about nature and environment. - Regarding local pollution, I guess e.g. the Euro 5/6-standard and catalysator assure there is no harmful local pollution from petrol engines, especially lower consumption engines like motorcycles in city. I guess almost all exhaust is CO2. (Diesel truck, busses and cars, however, might be local polution in a city). - Don´t forget that electricity is produced in many cases by fossil fuel, e.g. coal. And e.g. Germany no has no nuclear electricity power plants, they shut all of the down. - Electrical sewing machine "motorcycles" are not anything I will use. Ever. I´d rather travel (with planes?) to other countries to ride ICE motorcycles. I don´t care if it´s hydrogen, petrol or something else. But I will only ride a bike with the same motor-, sound, performance and handling characteristic as an normal ICE motorcycle. Exception being, maybe, an electrical scooter for short commuting in a city =) Take care! BR.

[@jothain]

@@mhult5873 Yeah, modern bikes are quite good on environment, but I still ride 2000's carburated XT that doesn't know anything about euro standards. But next bike is going to be something like euro 5. I also understand electricity standpoint. Mainly I'm interested if I install myself a solarsystem in future. But it's very true that there's not going to be near future alternative to my other bike ZZR1400 :)

[@mhult5873]

@@jothain ZZR1400 is a nice bike! I didn´t know what MC a ZZR1400 is, but checked on google. That´s a very, very nice bike! =) I would love to try it. What year is your bike made? How is it to ride? Is it called "Ninja"? Sorry for my lack of knowledge. I have seen (and dreamed) about a ninja when I was a teenager and when I was around 20 years old. Me, I got my first "bike", a 125 CC Kawasaki AR 125, I believe 1987 year model, in the mid 90:s. I got my normal "full size" MC driving license about two years ago, but could afford a bike at that time. A few months ago, however, I did buy my first bike, a f750GS =) And I love that bike, I might never sell it ever. The sound from both the exhaust, engine, even when putting it in first gear from neutral is sounding incredible. (As with all motorcycles with gears) =) I love riding it, it´s a big part of my spare time now. Would be great to meet up and ride someday! I plan to do some touring in Europe someday. I live in south of Sweden, do you happen to live nearby?

[@allwheeldrive]

Before offering your sage perspective, it might be a good idea to ACTUALLY spend real time with an EV. We've had a Model 3 in our family for three years, several friends have had 3s and Ss for several more years than us. A few are already on their second one, one is about to pop for a third. Two-wheelers have a ways to go before they are consumer-level daily drivers, except for those who truly don't need more than "just enough." Soon enough battery and charging tech will allow not only this market to flourish, but we'll also see electric flying vehicles of all sorts, not to mention large transports like semis, trains, and ocean-going vessels. The ownership experience does NOT take anything away from the pleasure of driving: it's different, NOT bad. In fact, in many instances being actually able to hear sounds around you is a major perk, especially because of the instant torque, utter smoothness, and complete lack of fumes making their way into your nostrils, eyes, and clothing. I still have one ICE liter bike and two cars, and they just provide a different set of positive experiences. Change is hard, no?

[@MrTaliz]

Producing oil is a lot dirtier than producing batteries,

[@mhult5873]

Is it? Source of this claim? I´m genuinely interested for a source that can prove this. Also take into account that electricity is often produced using fossil fuels. Take care and thanks! BR

[@MrTaliz]

@@Shadrach666 how do you think oil is produced in Africa?

[@MrTaliz]

@@Shadrach666 does that make child slave labor in the oil industry in Africa ok?

[@creedm3040]

Hydrogen. Best!

[@RichDunn]

You don't mention the type of batteries in it, so how do you know they are made from a dirtier process than ICE metals and oil? Do you think ICE Honda's are made in England, or shipped from the other side of the world? 2.5k charges are over a decade of daily use. Would an ICE scooter need a rebuild by then? Perhaps perform some proper journalist fact-finding, before making hard and fast judgments? E.g. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5yQfaGLjqqLq68

[@mraidymaddful]

Errrrr.............

[@cloggsy1971]

Waste of time… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cjsingh4070]

Rather walk thanks but NO thanks. Gen Z and pronouns will be painting this into multicoloured unicorn. Some even may self identify as EM1.

[@bbb11293]

Significant load of crap, just look for alternative options £3000, joke not worth 3p.

[@georgeloukelis8901]

This is no good for Honda...

[@TasosOrfanos]

Stupid bike at all!

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

dont buy one of those

[@highlandrab19]

It will be ridiculously expensive even at 3k over £1500 for a moped is ridiculous now and part or the reason they have basically died out now the euro 5 stuff is 2k to buy

[@brankog7]

Surely a manufacturer of Hondas size and history, they could’ve built a better electric bike than that pathetic toy. Surely 80km/h top speed would be an absolute minimum