We've Had ENOUGH Sex and the City (And Can We Stop Reviving Shows?)

[@chantellwarren3581]

Honestly, I am over Hollywood's obsession with reviving popular older shows but slapping a modern context on it. Nostalgia is so bankable that Hollywood refuses to engage us with any new and relevant discussions. We know these shows had problematic elements but reckoning is not effective as the mythos of these projects are already engrain in the collective public consciousness.

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

Agreed if Hollywood was truly progressive from the problematic classics, they would hired talented writers and directors of marginalized groups to produce original contents

[@eventingirl001]

I agree, not everything needs to be remade or rebooted. If they want to continue with "friend group and their navigation of love and life", do something new or exciting. They have the IP for the name and are looking to make a quick buck after the pandemic. I get it. Instead of bringing back these women that quite frankly the younger generation knows nothing about and hasn't watched Sex and the City, flip the series on its head. The new Gossip girl on HBO Max isn't continuing on with the old characters, they are starting with a completely new friend group. They should have done that instead of this limited series. Learn from the criticism that the old series has taken; make it more inclusive, make it more relatable, show a wide perspective of sexual relationships. Why not make one, if not the "Carrie" of the group, a sexual educator?

[@paulmartin591]

Are you listening George Lucas?

[@wweltz]

I generally agree, but the exception to the rule is the Twin Peaks revival. Absolute perfection and David Lynch refused to give in to people's desperation for nostalgia and created something outstanding and unique.

[@chantellwarren3581]

@@wweltz That was different. Lynch gave us something new and exciting. He didn’t just remake the property and slapped a “progressive” label on it. Most of Hollywood doesn’t have that vision for these projects they just want to beat a dead horse.

[@unerevuese]

Kim Cattrall was like, "We don't need this!" I'm with her.

[@devontehuntley6274]

Well given her recent show got cancelled and how crappy it was, what is she gonna do now? She's best off being on this revival while it's likely to do well because it's past series was so popular.

[@Merdenoms]

@@devontehuntley6274 It's called artistic integrity. She's better off staying far away from this train wreck lead by horse face Sarah. Not every thing is about money. 'ole girl isn't hurting.

[@devontehuntley6274]

@Sydney Barrett I was talking about FILTHY RICH. What the hell is "Skin"?

[@devontehuntley6274]

@@Merdenoms It's not about money, but also attention and recognition. A woman her age can't afford to not be in the spotlight if she wants to continue her celebrity status. At the end of the day, this is a job she can likely maintain for a while given this is Sex and the City, it's likely to do well and continue for a few more years than risking with a new show. If she wants to be back in the spotlight in some way, shape, or form, then this is as good as it's going to get.

[@Lostinmyhead23]

@@devontehuntley6274 well E! Channel is always running Sex in the City reruns plus the movies are on Netflix. I’m pretty sure she is making good money on those residual checks that she doesn’t need to be in the revival

[@ThePonderer]

I really do question what this show of all shows could possibly have to add to anything in 2021. I feel kinda the same way about something like Friends. Some stuff just belongs back in its own decade.

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

Yes, but unfortunately, numbers show that people will be more willing to give a show/film a try that they recognize than a new intellectual property (IP). John Wick being a perfect example. The first film was successful, but it doubled in success for John Wick 2. Moreover, John Wick 3 tripled the amount of success that the 1st film got. A large portions of people who wanted to watched the sequels never saw the original. They watched the original so that they could watch the sequel. So, that’s the thing, people may be upset at the BRAND NEW StarWars/Transformers/TMNT/Friends/Terminator/Jungle Book/Jumanji/Batman/Lion King/Dragon Ball Z/Matrix/Fight Club/ etc etc etc. The fact remains more people will be willing to watch an established IP than a non-established IP. Thus, you have to have a gimmick if it’s a brand new show/film. Like, this is a new Tarantino film. Even though the IP isn’t established, the director is. It can also be like the show, Power. Even though it’s a new IP, and the director isn’t as established as Tarantino. It is 50 Cent’s show. The rapper? The Hip Hop mogul? 50? That’s the gimmick. It can also be about who is in the film/show. It can be a mixture of these things like Pirates of the Caribbean. It’s a movie based on the popular Disney ride. The DisneyLand ride? It features the highly acclaimed actors, etc etc etc. The movie/show business is that, a business. Their goal is to make a profit. Things will only change until people vote with their money. Thanks for reading [+]

[@kseniav586]

Shhhhh, be quiet! Don't give them ideas! They might actually revive Friends and that's the last thing we need.

[@missmatti]

And is it true that they are gonna revive Gossip Girl? No, thanks! New shows, please! There are soooo many stories to tell that have yet to be written or adapted into tv/film. And if we are gonna do a remake why not remake the bad adaptations and make it good instead of yet again making a Disney movie that we all loved into some empty live-action thing (cough Mulan cough).

[@liv97497]

I do love Friends but I was SO HAPPY to hear that the "reunion" wasn't going to be a revival or new episodes or anything like that. I think that if they want to hype up sex and the city again, do something like that - imagine a conversation between the 4 main characters (or 3) talking about the show, what was groundbreaking, the best fashion moments, etc, etc, and yes, what was problematic too. Maybe they even talk about where they think their characters ended up, maybe we get extra content, or just rundowns of old clips. I think it'd be much more beneficial and way less tiring. The fans could get a taste of a reunion, something exciting, but it wouldn't just be recycling old material over and over again.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

Like Seinfeld's take on gay people. It was a commentary on subtle homophobia among people who don't think they're homophobic. It worked great at the time, but today, people reacting in a similar way come across very differently. If you set the same episode today, it reads as homophobic itself instead of a commentary on homophobia.

[@thefollowingisatest4579]

As someone who is largely ignorant of Sex and the City, that "bisexual conversation" clip was like watching a train wreck where after the first train derails more trains keep showing up from somewhere to keep crashing into it.

[@IIxIxIv]

jesus it's like someone wrote all the bad stereotypes about bisexuality on purpose in one scene

[@wweltz]

That was the view of bisexuality at the time though. Main reason I stayed closeted until I was 30. Not defending the show remotely, just saying I heard that viewpoint constantly from people IRL before that show was even at it's peak popularity.

[@lydiafayre9806]

And they're all so giggly about it.

[@mariehill2590]

I just watched it after reading your comment. Even with the description of "train wreck" I still underestimated just how bad it would be o_o

[@chxrbb_dxllhouse5403]

It hurt

[@bubaflo]

If Emily in Paris was an out of touch mess how is this even going to work

[@Whatlander]

I didn't even know Emily in Paris existed, but her tone of voice when saying the name painted a vivid picture.

[@jos.3649]

Listen in English Emily sucks and in French it’s even worse.... it doesn’t make sense.

[@FNJ720]

I must be the only one that’s never heard of Emily in Paris.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

I’m genuinely disturbed that a show that literally whitewashed Paris (how the hell did they literally remove all non-white people from the actual streets of actual Paris where they filmed this?!) except for one man who is both token black and token gay, and then had this French fashion promotional firm be so “intimidated” by her “American ingenuity” when her extend of social media was an Instagram account the size of mine, went off and got more seasons. Emily slept with a friend’s underaged brother, for fuck’s sake! Then jumps in bed with her best friend’s brother. The show is offensively bad, not only to French culture, but to non-white people. I’m French by heritage raised with a lot of French culture and spent a couple months a year living in Paris a year before the lockdowns, and am offended at what they did. Even one of the writers was shocked that this show got Emmy nominations when other shows that she openly acknowledges are much better didn’t. I’m genuinely sick to my stomach and upset that a show like this is getting even more seasons. So it Bridgerton. Both are clearly racist shows featuring pretty white people who get things they don’t deserve.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Emily in paris is only good if you're a super privileged rich kid who travels 'as a hobby and enlightment' and have a serious case of francophile

[@KhadijaMbowe]

I firggen love Gilmore Girls and Sex in the City but yes...why are people so obsessed with recreating something that just doesn't work with the times? Why not use your "creative" imagination to make something new? Perhaps it's because some of these creators are one trick ponies, they don't know how to adapt so they try to use nostalgia to bring audiences back. Lord, throw the whole reboot away, yall know we only care about Samantha

[@alexscriabin]

imho, it's more that reboots and sequels have safer finances (lower risk, more money); it's less that the creators don't know how to make new stuff, and more that their investors don't hire creators to make new stuff.

[@Ryan-pg1tw]

maybe you should express yourself more respectful

[@Ozzie_Mandias]

Because in the modern world... New things are fun... but they offend the "unwritten rules" in this hyper politized world run by unstable children in adult bodies who break out into impotent rage when their "unwritten rules" are being disobeyed.

[@shanespencer8754]

While I haven’t watched sex and the city completely I can see why certain scenes are controversial l. Being a bisexual man myself that scene kinda hit home for me because I’ve had multiple straight and bi women heck even gay men tell me the exact same thing said in that scene. Funny thing is that they weren’t just Middle Aged white women, they where people in there early 20s which makes it hurt worse.

[@Aster_Risk]

I saw that episode in 2004 when I was 13. I had a male friend who was bisexual, and I remember thinking the entire episode about the bisexual man she dated was pretty awful. I was still a kid, but it hurt my heart for my friend to see grown women talking like that.

[@kseniav586]

This is so awful and I totally relate. That's why I'm so scared of coming out to anyone except closest friends.

[@kseniav586]

@Nocturnal Jester thank you for you kind words!

[@shanouboubou]

Wait bi women would tell you that as well ? Wow, it already sucks when people say that but when it's people from your own minority community, it sucks even more. Really sorry you had to hear this BS I_I

[@jessica_swan]

Yes this is why when I was growing up (when this episode aired) my peers who weren’t straight felt like they had to hide it. This continued into highschool too and wasn’t that long ago. It’s sad.

[@staredwards268]

I’m just disappointed that popular shows seemingly aren’t allowed to end anymore.

[@mereru9681]

Gotta keep milking that old dairy cow long after it already died

[@ECL28E]

Except Seinfeld. Other than the Curb Your Enthusiasm plotline, Jerry is pretty clear he's not bringing that back.

[@longlongshadows392]

@@mereru9681 Nor until woke Karen comes around..twists and turns it into a complete trainwreck

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

Money babbyyy!!!!!💰

[@pixiebomb28]

i STILL dont understand how carrie is framed as a "sexpert" when she was one of the most prudish closed off characters. that title should've been awarded to samantha

[@peterpaul9644]

She was an observer. She wrote what she saw. She was not the only person she was writing about.

[@pixiebomb28]

@@peterpaul9644 the definition of an expert is literally someone who is highly skilled/knowledgeable in that arena. How could that be attributed to her if she is one of the most sexually prudish women in the group

[@peterpaul9644]

@@pixiebomb28 your definition is faulty. Some humans are experts in bonobos. It doesn’t mean they are necessarily out in the jungle amongst bonobos. People can make use of secondary as well as primary data to become experts in anything. Try again, sis.

[@enoumoh2039]

@@peterpaul9644 You do realize that being an expert, even if you're the prudish person on Earth, you wouldnt sound out of your depth with your chosen area. You observing or getting info from primary or secondary sources wouldnt leave you giving out opinions that arent always that informed.

[@peterpaul9644]

@@enoumoh2039 sorry, I can’t say I understand what you were trying to say. But cool, agree to disagree ;)

[@jennymaharshak3082]

So true. And Emily in Paris wasn't worth making for the very same reasons.

[@jhericotaytay1398]

Its fine. We need series like emily paris where you can follow it without really watching it.

[@ENTERTAINMENT-tc3uq]

I would rather they continuee Jane by design actually

[@sharon-bp9pk]

@@jhericotaytay1398 we should have such shows without such embarrassing results. Gilmore girls was able to do this in 2001...

[@brigidcoleman8728]

@@ENTERTAINMENT-tc3uq that was so good

[@tamarleahh.2150]

Emily in Paris would be good if Emily actually LEARNED something

[@booksvsmovies]

Bruh, SitC even got a prequel series. It's okay to let the past die.

[@moonlight4665]

Kill it if you have too ;)

[@helenalategan3607]

The Carrie diaries books were very entertaining to read when I was in highschool. However the series was nothing like the books and it was awful.

[@SloanePaoPow]

And the actress they cast to play Carrie looked like a young Kim Cattrell not a young Sarah Jessica Parker, which I though was a strange choice.

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

And two disaster movies

[@TheMOVIEMANIAC13]

@@SloanePaoPow right SJP has that distinct look

[@jasayehan]

I totally agree with you! If anything, the new title could concentrate on Charlotte's daughter, who is of college age and how she navigates her NYC being a Chinese adoptee brought up in a white, Jewish household.

[@Aster_Risk]

That could be a really great show. If only.

[@Frosting1000]

I’d love that but I don’t think Darren star or the writers have the range to tackle it with enough nuance

[@NicoleLLewis]

@@Frosting1000 Agreed, but that could be remedied by hiring different writers. But the powers that be would never allow it.

[@FreyaEinde]

Honestly that's a way dynamic.

[@tinachristine4573]

@Christopher Reynolds I hated how he wrote in gay men almost as an accessory to be paraded around by straight women.

[@selalewis9189]

Even Kim Cattrall - the actual “sex” in Sex and the City - is done with this. We should follow suit.

[@13realmusic]

Normalize not letting gay men dominate the conversation about feminism

[@ameera.abubakr]

Please

[@Psychwriteify]

Agreed

[@crosskitelines]

If I could like this twice I would

[@shardeabre]

Say it louder

[@mariedit9935]

Agree 100%

[@maggiemcfly5267]

You think they'll kill Samantha? With breast cancer coming back or something like that? Kim's refusal to ever go back doesn't really allow other option, I think... Anyway, this revival is so unnecessary.

[@Rikku147]

I feel like they're gonna be dicks to her character on a writing level. Makes me mad just thinking about it. She's the only one with integrity since she's been vocal that she's done with the role and different stories need to be told.

[@mzzzzzzday]

Hope it's not covid, will be super insensitive.

[@cv8499]

I'm hoping that they'll have her rekindle things with Smith, so she's off traveling the world with him or something.

[@ananya1721]

I think so too, they'll bring her cancer back.

[@chrisholmes3791]

I feel like they’ll have her character move back to LA w Smith

[@famco_inc737]

I lost interest in the revival when they said that they would be a black sassy woman. I mean I would love for a more diverse Sex in the City cast but this sounds like another cliché character to me!

[@radhiadeedou8286]

How did you have interest in it to begin with?

[@famco_inc737]

@@radhiadeedou8286 I use to love the serie so I will always be curious to see what they come up for the characters. And after the horrible movies I thought maybe they would give a proper send off to the girls. But without Samantha honestly I don't see the point!

[@irenevaccari7244]

"Steve would never cheat on Miranda. Ever!" Thank you!!!! That was one of the stupidest things they did in the movie!

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

While I agree it was not in character, I love that they put a positive view on the possibility of couples reconciling after cheating. It is too rejected in the mainstream

[@irenevaccari7244]

@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 Oh yes, I absolutely agree with you :D

[@deborahklinlger8565]

But he did and they worked thru the problem.

[@pastlesandfish]

Sex and the City is problematic but as a gay man and a trans ally, I feel like I can be critical of the show but still enjoy it. It was very of its time and I think that's where it should stay. Redoing it for the modern era just wouldn't work because it was made at a culturally significant time when the norms around sex and gender were in flux. I feel like if they try to update the racial and sexual politics of the show for a modern audience, it will just be panned for being "too PC" and "woke." There's no need for it. Enjoy it for what it was. Plus, doing the show without Samantha just wont be the same. She is my favourite character and the dynamic doesn't work without her.

[@wweltz]

Especially since they're all married with kids now! Who tf is having the "Sex" if Samantha's not in the show??

[@Jrr592]

Parts of it definitely didn’t age well, but it’s still a good show

[@littlewomenchannel]

Exactly. When sex and the city appeared it broke a lot of the norms and became a huge part of the sexual liberation. Try to do that now with today´s standards is a waste of time unless you take the theme of the show to somewhere else.

[@SarifaXionic]

It should be a critic on dating apps and how they ruined dating

[@dawnmcdade154]

You were spot on with your assessment of the reboot.

[@canningfactory]

This show gets a lot of "oh it's just a product of it's time, in it's context it was progressive" talk and I gotta say as a 41 year old who remembers this show as an adult when it came out, this show was a deeply problematic hatefest 20 years ago. There's never been a moment it wasn't grossly cringe in it's entire run.

[@parkergarvin]

Thank you. I am 46 and, while I found the show entertaining, I couldn’t stand most of the characters or their decisions or what they celebrated or valued. Big? No! Obsession with shoes? Really? Carrie? Stop it! The only one I really liked was Samantha.

[@LMak1989]

So hear me out, I have a theory about why the show somehow managed to escape unscathed in pop culture.. people conflated it mentioning certain taboo topics with actually addressing said topics well. The ‘bravery’ of daring to talk about a topic does not equate doing it well.. it’s a massive cringe fest mostly that rewards it’s characters bad behaviours and encourages entitlement. The movies then take the absurdity to even worse levels. It still makes me sad that this show has this much of a stamp in pop culture

[@canningfactory]

I doubt this reboot will be particularly hateful considering the way the culture looks right now, but without Kim Cattrall what on earth could be interesting enough a hook to give anybody a reason to watch more than an episode? 3 one percenter bigoted prudes chatting in an alternate universe covidless Manhatten cafes, what could they possibly be chatting about that could make anyone care?

[@wweltz]

Agreed! "Rich, white liberalism" does not equal "progressive."

[@selalewis9189]

I too remember when the show was criticized when it came out. But we were all so traumatized by 9/11, and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, that many insisted on escapism rather than criticizing something they liked. They frankly weren’t ready to hear the messages.

[@dramonmaster222]

Honestly, if the whole cast isn't returning then what's the point of bringing it back?

[@zandrashafer7633]

There is no point. Like she said, “let it die.”

[@devontehuntley6274]

Majority rules. Three out of four want to do it, so be it. If it was half or even ONE of them, then it might as well be a different show altogether that's not "Sex and the City" but some spinoff/sequel series with a different title. I think to not do a revival because ONE person is not a reason to go through with it. The question now is, do we really need a whole new series? I frankly prefer if they did a Part 3 movie, which they were going to do and that got scrapped, but I guess they want to expand on the women some more now while they're seasoned and middle-aged and there's nothing wrong with that.

[@avery3424]

money

[@Neechiemoose102]

Kim Catrall and SJ Parker didn't get along 🍵

[@selty]

She made SATC what it is.

[@Cundrie_la_Surziere]

I'm surprised that there is an attempt to revive this show after the second film was such a train wreck. How can you even continue the story after that???

[@cv8499]

I think they want to clean the taste of that second movie out of our mouths.

[@Cundrie_la_Surziere]

@@cv8499 I wish there was a way to delete those horrible and offensive 146 minutes from my memory. I doubt the revival can achieve what lots of booze couldn't do.

[@wweltz]

I know I stand alone in this, but I thought both films were god awful.

[@HaHaGirl16]

This is literally how I feel about this!! You shouldn’t get a reboot or revival after failing so hard with that second film. Good on Kim Cattrall for taking a stand and saying enough is enough, time to move on.

[@emilypeterson2266]

I highly recommend listening to the Origins podcast series about sex and the city. It interviews all the cast (sans Kim) and Darren Starr and tells the story of making the show and movies, as well as the 3rd movie that never got made. It also gets INTO IT with the feud between Kim and SJP. What’s weird is all the actresses make a point of saying that nothing but the relationships has aged well out of the show and that the NY that they were in doesn’t exist any more. Chris Noth even says that the show may have helped ruin New York. So the genesis of this reboot is...odd.

[@s.buddelmeijer2091]

Thanks for the tip! Listening to it now :)

[@Oogaini]

How does it ruin NY?

[@Merdicano]

@@Oogaini Maybe because of the fictional depiction of the city in the show?, only a thought maybe

[@Merdicano]

Quick question: Is it called "The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss"?

[@emilypeterson2266]

@@Oogaini LATE reply, sorry. The image of New York that it portrayed was pretty influential to many young women/men moving there, which led to a housing crisis, skyrocketing rents and general cost of living. Also just a huge culture change. Like no one like Carrie back then could ever afford to live there now and that New York doesn’t really exist anymore. But that may need to be articulated by someone who actually lives there now.

[@brookesmith6998]

It would be great if these producers stopped trying to reboot these old shows. Just let us enjoy them for what they were. It doesn't seem like most of these reboots are even adding anything to the stories.

[@MRuby-qb9bd]

Can you even think of a good reboot? I can't.

[@brookesmith6998]

@@MRuby-qb9bd Nope 😂 It didn't seem like too many people were complaining about Raven's Home, but I've never seen it.

[@MRuby-qb9bd]

@@brookesmith6998 I think that says quite a bit too though. I didn't even know there was a reboot 😆

[@brookesmith6998]

Lmao, exactly. Like is it exactly good and just flew under the radar or is it bad and no one cares?

[@juanrisa945]

Are you talking about revivals?

[@mzzzzzzday]

So excited to hear from people who have actually watched the show. Not just people who have ONLY watched the movies. I'm a fan of the show as well. I love it to death and i watch it once a year. But it does not need to come back, it needs to stay where it is and people need to just watch the reruns.

[@Psychoclaw]

Me, who has never watched Sex and the City: "How are they always having these explicit, loud conversations in a crowded restaurant and NO ONE IS STARING AT THEM?"

[@emilyrose9518]

Thats nyc- still the same (without the covid). I'd say, maybe they'd get a stare for how tone deaf the opinions are, but most people roll that kind of behavior off their back in NYC (depending on the part of NYC of course) or they are just plain used to obnoxious people (most often the reason). Nobody likes it though. MAYBE you will get someone to come to your table and make a comment, but thats usually in a night/bar setting. Or a sloppy brunch. The wait staff might make more slights if the place is on the fancier side. Mostly because they don't want the restaurant associated with low brow behavior, but they'll most likely not admit to that. Seen all these situations occur. I'd say, the "ignore and act as though I don't see them" mantra is the most classic.

[@helena4440]

Honestly I do it too with my girlfriends lmao but I'm messy

[@Ap-mh4lc]

Because New Yorkers don't care and they mind their own business😳

[@Ap-mh4lc]

Because New Yorkers mind their own business and they don't care 😉

[@Minam0]

That's how it is in ny

[@Ottovontubes]

I love the ending about the ladies in the show going "full Karen" as, IMO, it would seem a logical extension of the women in the show (well except Kim Cattrall).

[@ViccVegaa023]

In the NYC of today where so many are struggling those entitled ladies aren't endearing anymore. But I don't see the showrunners as being self aware enough to understand that...yeah, the gals are gonna be seen as utterly unlikable in a modern context and this revival is likely to be a REAL train wreck.

[@JB-kr3xz]

They already rebooted sex and the city. It’s called Insecure, it’s a black cast and takes place in LA. That’s all we needed 🤗 Also I watched sex and the city for the first time in 2019. It was fun to watch and I’d probably watch it again but it’s definitely problematic. Carrie was the WORST character. One of my big issues were how much they wanted us to root for their toxic relationship. I WOULD NEVER ROOT FOR MY FRIEND TO BE WITH ANYONE WHO TREATED THEM THE WAY BIG DID TO CARRIE 🙃

[@peacekeeperbabe]

No, Insecure is not SatC as a reboot.

[@JB-kr3xz]

@@peacekeeperbabe I’m aware. It’s a joke.

[@bella-tt9hk]

I’m glad you brought up the biphobia and transphobia in this show. My mom loves this show but I didn’t mostly because I’m a tomboy. I felt like this show didn’t welcome me because I am considered more masculine than them. I also couldn’t stand how the show would fetishize people who weren’t white. However it’s kinda hilarious that HBO wants to revive it, but this show honestly is best left behind in the 2000’s.

[@bs4e]

Carrie the sex columnist not being sex positive is so funny

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

Princess: Talking about Sex and the City for 21 minutes Me: Staring at the fan art of Black Lady and Mistress 9.

[@SwingingonSunshine]

I probably wouldn't be cringing at this revival if it wasn't bringing back the old cast. Like, let's give this a face lift. Let's get new characters the same age as Carrie & co when Sex & the City premiered in the 90s. So much has changed in NYC alone, that it'd be interesting to explore.

[@wweltz]

LOVE this idea! And if the old cast really want to be involved maybe all the new characters could be their employees or something. Like one could be a new lawyer at Miranda's firm, another could be working as a ghostwriter for Carrie (maybe she's gotten famous and prolific enough to do the James Patterson thing where none of his books are actually written by him anymore lol), and maybe another is an up-and-comer in the art world reaching out to Charlotte for advice and expertise. Idk, but I'd love to see the same premise with NEW BLOOD. It's why the Mandalorian works so well. We love Star Wars but we're all fucking sick of the damn Skywalkers. New story, new blood, same setting.

[@seannanana84]

That would be much better. The reboots that pass the torch while involving old cast members work fairly well. I mean imagine a 20 something post college fresh faced Gen Z kid being the "Carrie" someone who is a LBGTQ+ ally or part of the community themselves, someone who is super sex positive, pro sex work, anti slut shaming...I would love that. A new idealistic lawyer working for Miranda...I would love that.

[@emilyrose9518]

Didnt Girls and Broad City sort of touch these items? Granted, more the millennial experience though. I think it would make more sense if it was in context to 30 somethings again, as that was the DNA of the original show. These women were established and still looking to mingle in a world that was (still is) incredibly agist toward women in their 30s/40s and heaven forbid 50s. I think focusing on the gen z experience is a great idea, but a different show, regardless of generational revamp.

[@a.freedman2726]

That is an interesting idea.

[@pixiebomb28]

it REALLY rubbed me the wrong way when Carrie had the gall to act as if just because Big wanted to cheat on Natasha with her that made it okay. She acted as tho natasha was in the wrong and when charlotte confronted her about it she had the nerve to act as tho charlotte was a bad friend when in reality charlotte was totally correct in that situation. Were i Natasha, I would beat her ass from here to timbuktu

[@shaniquequaeakin564]

For real. Carrie was honestly the only one in the group I could not be friends are cool with in the long run. Natasha really did nothing to Carrie and while I understand Carrie being hurt that Big picked her, that wasn't Natasha's fault. Also she was selfish to beg Natasha for forgiveness just to make herself feel better instead of actually owning up to her role in hurting her.

[@NuSanniang]

I can forgive Steve cheating on Miranda but I would never forgive the first movie for breaking up Samantha and Smith.

[@kat8559]

Sitc without samantha is absolutely and totally unappealing to me. The writers need to let it die.

[@SilverAnicore]

There are pieces of media that are simply timeless because their stories and themes focus mostly on certain aspects of human nature. Sex and the City is NOT one of those pieces of media. It's very much a product of its time, and removing it from that time would either force it to be changed to a degree that makes it completely unrecognizable, or have it feel awfully displaced.

[@lanzinator4734]

"No, it's $40,000." Dead.

[@belias360]

I never cared for this show. If I wanted to watch a show about 4 old white ladies, I'd just watch Golden Girls. It's certainly much better acted, has likeable characters, and is surprisingly more progressive than this show despite being much older.

[@mzgreenjeansapproves]

This or Murder She Wrote. JB Fletcher rules!

[@mindoverbread1213]

Sexist much. How about we focus and, dare I say, criticize the context of the show instead of the women's age.

[@belias360]

@@mindoverbread1213 I...was? The first part of what I said was a joke and if you actually knew how to read, you'd know I was literally comparing the two shows based on their content. Illiterate much? Okay. Move on.

[@Minam0]

lol thinking 30 year olds being old is peak zoomer dump brain

[@cookie_dough_hangover]

"Old"? Are you serious?

[@issabee7743]

Shows that handled bi-sexuality better: Proceeds to name shows that aren't so white centric. Coincidence?

[@rootedinland6823]

The bisexuality conversation is such a mess but Samantha's ice skating snarky comeback always makes me chuckle.

[@ViccVegaa023]

I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that Carrie was really Darren Starr and the whole show was about Gay White Males just coded as Straight White Woman. The show only ever made sense to me if I thought about it that way but I was far from a fan, to be honest.

[@classified773]

I will never forget that scene with Natasha... Carrie had mad nerve after legit STALKING her.

[@SigmaSigmaSigmaJgirl]

She stalked approx. seven people.

[@seraphinw1]

imagine what was going through Nixon's head during that biphobia scene

[@shaniquequaeakin564]

Yeah as a young person who watched Sex and the City and Girlfriends and was bisexual, that scene made me cringe. It was especially jarring for a show that was supposed to open towards sexuality. But looking back, the show kink shamed a bit as well.

[@10aseews]

Yeah I always think of the episode where Carrie's politician boyfriend wanted to pee on her and she handled it so badly. If she didn't want to be peed on that's fine but she could have done a better job of communicating about it.

[@RhineMaiden]

Shows like this were the reason I didn’t come to terms with my bisexuality until I was 25. I literally thought it wasn’t real and would ignore my feelings for women. Thank you for discussing it!

[@marisaguarino6070]

This vaguely reminds me of the whole "let's fix the past sins of zeitgeist" motif that's been revived with the recent reboot obsession of the past decade. Like how every Disney live-action remake of the classics cannot physically exist without hee-hawing at itself for all of the stereotypes it peddled back in the before times. At the end of the day, it's a thin veil of nostalgia taped over the obvious: no new ideas, so let's try to repackage the old ones for profit. Let it die!

[@cutegixie]

When it was on TV I was in the middle of my I'm not like other women phase, and I didn't know I was demisexual. So I have no nostalgia/attachment. Would much prefer a show with a similar premise but more diversity (something at least properly set in NYC) than see this rebooted. It could even be same universe so the characters can make some cameos!

[@margretwitte632]

I'm aro/ace and the show was on when I was a teenager. I don't really have nostalgic attachment to it, but it did influence me. I watched all of it, thinking this was what I was supposed to be like, but being ace (although I didn't know it then) it was highly disturbing, confusing and sometimes scary for me. Interestingly (is that a word?) the character, that bothered me least was Samantha. I think because she was generally so nonjudgmental.

[@nancykerrigan]

@@margretwitte632 "Interestingly (is that a word?)" I thought it is?

[@margretwitte632]

@@nancykerrigan english is not my first language, so I'm sometimes uncertain about if I'm using the right one or if I just made one up

[@Squirreltasticqueen]

Oh that would be a cute nod of passing the torch. A new diverse crew and we see Carrie or some of the other crew in the background. Tbh sure you could try to pick up these stories but look at what happened to roseanne, sometimes you just gotta tell different stories in the universe before you end up burning all the good faith.

[@AnkhAnanku]

Another demi! It’s valid! w00t TBH IDnK if I’m legit demi/demi or bi/demi or demi/bi or what (been alone to long to know for sure, anymore) but it’s good to hear the term out there

[@georgier9151]

"Samantha's an ally"... that'd be why she's not in the reboot then? 👀 (jk, obviously)

[@giraffe7604]

As someone who's only recently watched SATC, I interpreted Carrie's biphobia as her being out of touch despite her thinking she's cool. Which I found consistent with her character. But this may be my Gen Z lens talking, maybe Carrie was understood as on the cutting edge at the time.

[@Ilovegrunge123]

Biphobia and homobophia etc still happen today just because we are more progressive today doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You can't just ignore it in newer shows it wouldn't be realistic.

[@toyaJM]

I hated the first movie with the insert of J Hud they had her character sounding like a slave when she received that damn used bag. J Hud said she would love to be apart of the reboot hellllllll no.

[@cv8499]

JHud was in the first movie not the second. I liked her character in the first one and would love to see her return. But only with more black writers in the room.

[@toyaJM]

@@cv8499 thanks for the correction that entire character was flat and hella problematic for a show that has not portrayed pocs as main or even secondary characters.

[@Aster_Risk]

I love Jennifer Hudson, and her character deserved better. Her acting brought some real light to that movie.

[@toyaJM]

@@Aster_Risk it felt like they just threw her into the story because they needed a poc. There truly wasn’t a need for her to be in the movie as much as I love J Hud.

[@selalewis9189]

I was watching the movie very early this morning, only because I enjoy watching the scenes of Samantha pining after her next door neighbor. I scrub right past the JHud scenes. They always insult my intelligence.

[@johnl.7254]

For the revival I would like to see more depth and nuance, maybe to show what it is like being in your 50s and 60s, or maybe if Samantha's gone what does her passing mean the other characters and real grief and focus on real friendships between them who know each other more than 30 years. But It is going to be definitely like Samantha is gone F ing every guy in Europe, Carrie wondering if Big doesn't find her sexy anymore and Stevie can't get it up or something... And I get it the show is called Sex and the City for a reason, but I think maybe it is time to leave it back in the 90s, rewatch it for nostalgia from time to time and maybe make another show that can show friendships between older women and their lives and marriages and be more inclusive.

[@SloanePaoPow]

As someone who never watched this show when it came out and only now have seen some episodes and clips, I have to say, I don't get the appeal and I'm the target demographic (early 30s). The women are vapid and seem to create their own petty problems. They are neither aspirational nor people to idealize. It may have been fresh at the time, but it has not aged well. I get the fashion in fun, but I would like to see more from a tv show about 4 independent women.

[@Frosting1000]

I mean ppl enjoyed it because these women weren’t idealized nor role models. I just think at the time there weren’t a lot of messy female main characters to root for. The need for every female character to set a good example is kind of limiting, especially since male characters can be appealing to a wide audience AND be a lot worse.

[@Whatlander]

From what I know of it (nothing), it seemed like one of those personality quizzes where you and your friends have fun deciding who fits which archetype, but instead of answering questions it's packaged with characters for you to get attached to in the process. Maybe? It did coincide with a boom in people making and taking those types of quizzes, back before Buzzfeed absorbed that internet culture touchstone.

[@SloanePaoPow]

@@Frosting1000 I'm all for more messy female lead characters. However Carrie is messy in the least compelling way. From what I've seen, her problems are champagne problems and/or self created. There rarely seem to be external struggles that affect her life, forcing her to make difficult decisions or compromises that could show character growth. That would be more real and relatable imo.

[@Frosting1000]

@@SloanePaoPow I mean we can agree to disagree. Im not denying that they’re spoiled rich white women or that some episodes didn’t make me cringe, but idk, I watched the whole show and liked it. I just don’t care for the need to make women be perfect or properly victimized in order to be appealing. And also, I think sometimes dating people who aren’t good for you or making mistakes is kind of a relatable thing.

[@beckyginger3432]

I think Samantha could be read as straight aromatic allosexual person. And I like that as a reading for her - she was always the most interesting character imo, there shouldn't be a remake but you can't do one without her.

[@thaboiinblue]

This discussion has made me think of other shows that also aged poorly such as Moesha and The Parkers in some respects. I still love them too but recognize the dated references and the fact that they didn’t know then what we know now about fat shaming, homophobia, slut shaming (Frank especially, but Moesha at one point slur shamed her boyfriend at the time when she almost had sex with him towards the end of season 4), etc. I hate when a lot of FIRST TIME viewers try to trash the show on the basis of them having these flaws and aging poorly, but I myself as someone who grew up with these series, instead chooses to think: wow... times sure have changed! Lol. But I definitely agree we should just keep those shows in the past because when we do continuations and reboots, all it does is highlight those very flaws that were messed up in the first place. Also... Sex and the City without Samantha??? I don’t want it. But I also agree I would take pause if Janet Mock wrote it and ran it.

[@a_real_one2000]

I think when rewatching older shows watching with Nostalgia glasses helps highlight what we enjoyed about show & how far we came & how far we have to go. watching Moesha & Parker’s I watched from perspective of preteen/teenage & watching some eps now I’m like ohh y’all didn’t have any Black writers with any type pull. Deadass Parker’s is mix bag of fatphobic commentary & serious consent issues. I think continuing on older series via reboot Could work bearing that the bar of entry is not to off putting to newer viewers so no one is forced to watch the (problematic) original. It has to ave natural entry point & not a ham fisted recreation of the original series.

[@juicyparsons]

same thing with Girlfriends...

[@3DGmpm]

I have recently started watching a lot of early 2000s black sitcoms lately including The Parkers. I do enjoying watching the show generally, but half the show is isn't it funny this woman is stalking this man. It's completly harmless because they genders are reversed...

[@lcardwell640]

"I just don't want to see my girls go full Karen" X) OMFG as usual you hit the nail right on the head!

[@mellamell7441]

The five central women on the Mary Tyler Moore Show is more timeless than those on SATC.

[@Veronica-fc9td]

👏👏👏

[@nicolaspabloangellegros430]

The way we feel about S&TC today is the same way we felt about 80s shows when S&TC first aired: it was groundbreaking at the time and helped push the conversation forward but it is very much a product of its time.

[@alejandrogabriel1974]

Another video? So soon? We just keep winning!!

[@crosskitelines]

Thank you for mentioning Gilmore girls!!! I’m still mad about Gilmore girls and everyone if finished talking about it!

[@FreyaEinde]

Are you talking OG series or the revival?

[@luzperras728]

They need to stop reviving shows that finished. I would love for a Girlfriends ending, because it never had one! I love Living Singles, but it had an amazing ending and I don’t need a reboot cause the show is simply amazing as is. Thus, I agree with you! Great video 😊

[@RosieG9012]

I used to watch a heavily edited version of sex in the city on tbs when I was a kid, and maan that bisexual discussion scene messed me up as a young bi kid :/ I still have a lot of good memories of watching the show overall, but that scene was so damaging to my ability to accept myself and come out.

[@ursaminorjim]

To be fair, _Sex and the City_ didn't "age badly." It was equally as mortifying during its time. Also, how telling is it that the best shows to explore bisexual themes (at least on a surface level) were all science fiction?

[@Destroyer2150]

I know, right? I think a good example is how Star Trek: The Next Generation managed to approach identity, sexuality and gender discussions in such a unbiased way that it shocks me that other shows nowadays have such a hard time doing it.

[@norahammen1275]

this was really interesting, cus I've never watched the show (kinda before my time) but have heard about it a lot. i can totally see your point of how it's not helpful or necessary to renew it (honestly most shows they try to bring back aren't worth it these days, especially when they're so scared to change anything from the original). lemme know if this would work or not, but if they really wanted to "remake" sex and the city or do a new show with a similar vibe, they should go the she-ra route and make it completely different: different cast more reflective of now, maybe a different city or they all have different levels of wealth, and different material and storyline that makes more sense for the 2020s

[@Bl4ckDr4co]

*sees "A mini-take"* *looks at the time*

[@Sean-dl8ym]

so as a gay man who loves this show, I was pretty unhappy about the way the gay characters were treated as accessories and as one-dimensional sidekicks, whose love lives nobody actually took seriously. I hated it because I have been treated that way by many women over the course of my life. However, I have to admit that I also appreciate the realness of that. This IS how many upper-class straight cisgender white women navigate the world. I actually dislike media even more when it presents an idyllic progressive paradise wherein minorities are thriving and suffer no set-backs. That just lulls liberals to sleep, because it makes the world appear perfect and in no need of change. As much as it makes me sad to acknowledge, a lot of the problematic aspects of Sex & The City are things that real people say every day. Real people doubt the existence of bisexuality and accuse bi men of being gay all the time, even in 2021. Real people "other" transwomen every day, even in 2021. There is value in a show that depicts that, I think, because it makes it easier for us to hold the mirror to ourselves. In other words, I don't want shows to depict idyllic paradises until we've achieved an idyllic paradise. The best thing to do, in my humble opinion, would have been to have the characters behave exactly the way they did while eventually learning to see each situation in a different way. However, I can't deny that, as written, the show gives us a legit window into many straight cisgender upper-class American white women's lives. You know what I mean? They are privileged, and it shows.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

I mean, we SHOULD show the realness, I agree with that. The issue is when shows don’t make it clear it’s wrong… like “haha funny transexual with pp doing sex work”, or “haha bi not real”. Make the characters be exposed to the truth (that these are pretty fucked up views), even if they don’t always learn or get better. It should NEVER present bigotry as being perfectly fine, as otherwise it comes off as reflecting the view of the writers. For example I don’t mind misogynistic characters if they’re written well. But the moment I see a movie where a guy seems to be walking around in a wet dream, all the women want to fuck him for no reason, all men envy him, etc - that is boring and just gross.

[@LittleRedTeaCake]

Okay, you've convinced me. I'll rewatch the damn series okay!!! But really, I haven't seen it since it came out in the 2000's with my mom. It was the show we watched together, like her friends would come over too and we would make it a fun little party every week, because we were the only ones with HBO. Haha. I definitely felt it when you said, "do we love something that has aged poorly," because I feel that in my soul. So many things have and its hard to be like, "am I a POS for still loving this?" I really do appreciate the videos you've done about the show and all joking aside, will probably start working my way through the series. As always, ya killed it.

[@ariadneschulz8822]

"White progressivism is not the end all be all of progressive identity." YES. Once more for the cheap seats.

[@Mysterytour7]

"Why can't the past just die?" - Christine Daaé

[@allisonsolveig2018]

Oh wow, you were not kidding about those scenes being both trans and biphobic. I never got around to watch SatC but i had heard about some iffy scenes not *that* real double whammy for a bisexual trans woman

[@leonardpollard5722]

Laverne cox being so familiar with the show that she could cite the episode and season from memory was a moment that I cherish

[@BeautyViaJaleah]

We really do not need to see these women go full Karen in front of us 😭😭😭

[@monicaenns9967]

Sex in the City renewal? Nah, Golden Girls Reboot! That's what we need 😉💕

[@valentinacastaldi7422]

but 3 of them are dead

[@kirag9509]

We don’t need any reboot

[@SplatterInker]

AKASHA!!! 😍 Yeah, I have such mad respect for Kim Cattrall saying "er. NO." "Full Karen" 😂🤣 yep, basically.

[@for.tax.reasons]

The Sesshoumaru on the wall has all of my attention like im listening to you but. My eyes are gone professor

[@caelmack]

I know this is off topic, but since you mentioned Daria, could you talk about that? I would love to hear your perspective on that show, I grew up on it.

[@bronzebeetle8147]

I agree, it would be cool to have a video of Daria takes. If you didn't know, Princess writes for The Mary Sue (website) and recently published an article about Daria's parents which I enjoyed.

[@heavenlyboy9698]

Daria is also getting the reboot treatment and it’ll be focusing on Jodie.

[@caelmack]

@@heavenlyboy9698 happy about the focus on Jodie but 😭 why are we rebooting it? I know it hits different now, but I'm worried it won't go well.

[@bronzebeetle8147]

@@heavenlyboy9698 I heard about that, but idk, I reckon it might be a Lizzie McGuire situation where it's talked about for a long time but never goes ahead.

[@johnnymillar9056]

The way you jump cut zoom on Babylon 5 gives me hope there's a B5 video in the pipeline. It's my favourite show. Love this

[@kwanarchive]

Cobra Kai is a great revival for Karate Kid, though. No one asked for it, but it turned out much better than could be imagined.

[@noobiepatootie]

I'm already trying to erase the satc movies from my memories for the past ten years , I really don't need a revival show of this

[@prettytiff2562]

It won’t be a recreation it’s a continuation, I think it’s a good thing to see the love life of women over 50, will break many misconceptions and stigmas. I’ll be watching!!

[@katemccrea6963]

I loved this show when it first came out. I didn't have cable or hbo at the time, but friends told me about it and it was one of the first dvd box sets I ever purchased. It was a present to myself for graduating basic training. I never really liked Carrie, though I appreciated how dangerous it was to have a character like her as lead. But man, did she have some ultra cringe moments. Especially the Natasha scene, or when she invited Big up to Aiden's cabin season four. She was one of the first characters (besides Samantha and Miranda) to question the status quo about wanting to get married and have children. I cringed so hard at the transphobic jokes. Not back then, I didn't know any better because I was from some hick town that didn't have access to internet or know any openly lgbtq people. But watching it more and more, it just lets you down. Even for the 90s, you would've had Voguing and Madonna and the gay clubs, so I'm not sure why the writer's would be so homophobic and transphobic unless either it was subconscious or on purpose. Who knows. I also don't think the message of the show aged well, because while it preached you could be single and be happy, and only need yourself, only Samantha in the end was single. And the show was fatphobic as well. The only time they ever defended anyone fat was Miranda after she had the baby weight. When Samnatha put on ten pounds in the first movie, they made it seem like she was a size 20. I just wish the show had stuck to its guns and had at least two of the characters be happily single and not seen as desperate or pathetic. When I heard that the show was coming back without Samantha, my first thought was why? She was the antagonist that made them question their world views. So without her, are we just going to have a show about three settled upper/rich white women moaning about how they can't go out because of Covid? SJP has confirmed covid and social justice and politics are going to be part of the show. Given Cynthia Nixon's failed campaign, I cringe to think about what those views are going to be.

[@jhonni13]

So appreciate how you broke down the show then and now and how you can appreciate some things and still recognize the flaws.

[@TheSheLion777]

Your art at the back is SICK! Love it

[@redsands1001]

In a conference call but looking forward to this later. Edit: yeah agree. It had its time.

[@brendakerber7923]

I pretty much worship this show. I have seen every single episode more times than I would ever admit. But I am very aware that there are a lot of problems with it - especially looking at it 20 years later. You have done what I have never seen anyone else do - give a really fair, realistic, honest critique of it - taking into account when it was made and respecting what it was for its time. You are totally right - we don't need this. Just like we did not need the second movie. We need this even less than we needed the second movie. I am angry that they are doing this because it will, no doubt, colour the way I, and others see the original series. But, because I absolutely love this show - it's my hands down favourite of all time - I will watch the reboot. I will have too. And it will ruin it for me - I have no doubt about that,

[@Matty002]

all i have to say is AIDEN 👏 DESERVED 👏 BETTER 👏

[@jaffa4242]

I find it hard to reconcile how SatC was so lauded for its frank and progressive attitude towards sex (and specifically women's sexual desires) even though it's embarrassingly regressive when it comes to queer people. But as Melina says, it was like other feminist-ish shows from this era - great in some things, but always fell short in understanding queerness, class and race.

[@demilovatofaith]

I think that same writer wrote for AJ and the queen and um it was a clumsily handled portrayal of trans/NB identity. I could feel Rupauls lack of understanding trans/NB coming through.... Yeah based on that alone don't imagine sex in the city reboot would change that....😐

[@AnkhAnanku]

I’ve been told to use “enby” not “NB” since the latter it often used to denote “non-black POC” Agree about Ru-Paul. I kinda feel like it’s the “A-gay” attempting to retain control of the narrative, drag queens trying to take our base and bubble off to the surface, leaving the rest of us to the “gender critical” sharks.

[@zayansayed1060]

ur such an amazing creator. love your work so so so much. Its such a joyous experience sitting down and watching your videos and just learning about pop culture and all these things about media and how we interact with it.

[@gilliangiles7773]

Yeah one of my first Experiences with biphobia was someone quoting this show at me

[@NoOneReallySpecial]

THANK YOU!! I never once thought Steve would have been a cheater. He is so so sweet and reminds me so much of my father; super loyal to his wife like my dad is to my mom. But being with someone like my sister who is just so mean and rude, I somewhat forgave it. I really did wish the show was more inclusive. I am glad it spoke to people, still, because at the end of the day we all are human with lots of similarities so I am grateful for what it did. Instead of rebooting it we need new characters and a new show with new ideas inspired by it. A reboot was just not a good idea.

[@demianais95]

Hey Guys! So I’d been listening to a few of the popular movie and tv show YT reviewers (Jeremy Jahns, Chris Stuckman, etc.) for years now. But as I’ve gotten older I really have noticed the lack of black femme reviewers that I followed. But I didn’t want to assume they didn’t exist, which is why I’m so happy I found you Melina!! You challenge the media you’re reviewing with a perspective that resonated with me on a much deeper level (as a black woman myself). Your reviews are also so much more socially conscience/challenges the status quo (which is what I’m really look for). Do you all have any other reviewers you could recommend? Hopefully black femmes?? I feel like I discovered a mini oasis with Melina lol but I just know there’s probably even more amazing reviewers out there!

[@tlsimmons8439]

Hi all! at the 15:01 time stamp regarding the second movie, was something phobic but I can make it out. help

[@SJBrown2210]

I subscribed off the strength of the art on your wall. Also, you’re informative. I’m in love.

[@3DGmpm]

The biphobia was surprisingly hurtful. Sure I hear homophobia all day but modern day online homophobia is usually really funny because of how outlandish and hysterical it is. But people still say the exact same thing about bi guys to this day... Feels like we haven't moved the needle on it the way we have with gay rep

[@emmy8526]

For anyone craving one more episode of the original SATC, I recommend the movie Miami Rhapsody, which predated it. Also features a city in the name, very funny and witty, SJP is the lead and styled similarly, she narrates her family members’ sexual escapades, and Carla Gugino who plays her sister looks just like Charlotte and has a similar plot of dumping a WASP paragon for a dorky besuited fellow.

[@missmatti]

Like you, I have loved SATC a lot and it has meant a lot to me in my younger years - but it's time for new shows & new stories! Also, as someone who identifies as bi myself (but at the time when I watched that show had not come to terms with it at all) that scene always sat wrong with me. Same with how the women reacted when Samantha started to date that girl Maria. Now Maria wasn't the best partner for Samantha but they were not hung up on her behavior and their relationship dynamic rather they just didn't take the whole thing seriously. Hearing Laverne Cox's words make me realize how much better they could have done including LGBTQ+ people in New York beyond the white gay man. About reviving shows "because women like it"... I watch a lot of Asian dramas, in particular, Korean dramas. The majority of these shows have women as their main audience, they mainly run for one season only and there are rarely revivals (at least compared to Hollywood). If they can do it we can also deliver good NEW stories that become popular too!

[@tocotronicon]

Quality Video. I was nodding along through all of it. I was a big fan back in the early 2000, in fact the First time o ever binch watched a TV show was when i got season 1 on DVD for my 16th birthday (Christ, that's now almost 20 years ago...🧓). I absolutely agree that these shows schould be left to rest, their time is done. Surely there are talented writers out there with fresh, non-remake and especially more diverse ideas. Edit: omg you have a whole-ass video about my Cardigan Queen Charlotte York!!!❤️

[@pauletteorhii8200]

The show definitely will not be the same without Samantha but I also don't want to give Samantha too much credit by calling her an "ally." In the biphobia clip, her comments were fetishizing. In the episode where she dates a Black man, she is again fetishizing. She is a white woman just as much as any of them, and she is at times even more problematic. She's entertaining though

[@egyptianqueen4007]

I think Joan was a great friend. She allowed Lynn, Maya and Toni to take advantage of her so much and still did a lot for them.

[@Tesseract_King]

I knew basically nothing about this show and watching that bisexuality conversation made me cringe inside out. And then the trans clips came along and I nearly threw my phone across the room... I didn't have much of an opinion on the show before but now I vehemently want it to remain dead and buried in the 2000s where it belongs.

[@AgentPaper85]

Awesome video, 100% agree Steve would never cheat on Miranda. I still like the show but it's definitely a product of it's time and the writers behind it. We don't need a continuation, especially after the movies and I only bother to watch the first one.

[@Setsunako6587]

"Hire Janet Mok and I'll watch it," too 🙌🏾!