We've Owned an EV for 3 Years, Was it Worth it?

[@wheezywaiter]

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[@軍曹-n6j]

Successive EV Fires in South Korea　August 11, 2024. On the 1st of this month, 23 people were taken to the hospital after a fire broke out in a Mercedes-Benz EQE EV and smoke was inhaled in the underground parking lot of a condominium in the Qingluo International City in Incheon's West District, South Korea. In addition, about 140 vehicles in the underground parking lot were damaged by the heat of the fire, 40 of which were completely destroyed.

[@leoneltorres4442]

What's your opinion on hydrogen cars?

[@eponra8988]

​@@軍曹-n6jthe fire was on aug the 1st. Carfires happen, and carfires in underground parking lots also happen and are always dangerous. EVs tend to catch fire like 20 to 60times less than ICE cars. The only difference here was: this time it really was an electric car that started burning, on not an ICE. And that's why its in the news.

[@Apollocreed2076]

Unrelated, you are a comedian, LMAO. I watched this video and had to subscribe.

[@rajiano]

For a second I thought it was 50% off an electric car.

[@recharge6696]

Since owning an EV, I found my power bill has only gone up about 40 or $50 per month. I'm a lyft driver, so I drive around 2000 miles per month.

[@MrDRSMAX]

yeah, I drive about 20,00 miles a year, and my electric bill has gone up by about 60 bucks a month, whereas I had been paying over $200 a month for gas. I've had my EV for about 3 years too. But It's been great for me. It's just so much more convenient, and cheaper, and easier. I don't think I'll ever buy a gas car again.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@MrDRSMAX What were you driving before, a mustang? - if you get an economical 2 litre diesel, you get like 70mpg and almost 1000 miles of range, that's potentially 60 minutes total that you will spend "charging", the whole year, how cool is that? - In the UK anyway price per mile is pretty much on par with home charging and MUCH cheaper than public charging. But you save on depreciation, tyres, insurance, etc so it ends up way less, and you don't have that looming expense of a $20k battery after 8-10 years, or effectively giving your car away for next to nothing.

[@MrDRSMAX]

@@DigiDriftZone lol, I was actually driving a diesel before, a golf TDI. It got 45 mpg, not 70, but even if it did get 70 mpg I would still save money driving electric. It has been funny to see people try to think up hypothetical scenarios about why my old car must be better than my new car, when my firsthand experience has been the opposite.

[@monkeysuncle2816]

​​@@DigiDriftZone what percent of cars do you think get 70mpg? Nice attempt at trolling, though. At least you tried.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@monkeysuncle2816Just about any 2 litre diesel, the blue motion VW ones get more. The diesels are incredibly efficient and have much lower CO2 emissions. If I look outside right now, about 70% of the cars I see are economical diesel saloons, maybe they are less popular where you are.

[@sandhaug67]

In Norway, a tiny country with a population of 5.5 million, we have 3 million cars. 700,000 of them are electric and there are 8,000 public chargers. 85-90 % of new car sales are electric.

[@eric144144]

Paid for with oil wealth.

[@NoVisionGuy]

@@eric144144 of course, in 30 years it would not be the case anymore

[@Peter-je6td]

And grossly underpaid 3rd world people in awful conditions if they had to mine all of there own lithium and cobalt they would not be so happy with EVs

[@TheModernVIkingNor]

No, just using systematic tax relief to help building out the charger network, and make more people buy electric (Lower road tax, lower toll, allows the to use buss lane*) *many cities now don't allow electric cars to use the buss lane anymore this recently changed)

[@junehanzawa5165]

​@@eric144144 Best use of oil money ever.

[@KristopherReed]

I've had my Model 3 for six years and have put over 100k miles on it with no issues. It is my first EV and I'm never going back to gas cars.

[@BigRed-MWA]

Lol you will.🤦‍♂️

[@monkeysuncle2816]

​@@BigRed-MWA Why?

[@corey9313]

I had an i3 for a long time and I LOVED it. But then I became unemployed and had to sell it -____- but it was such a joy to drive and own and use. Charging was a non issue, it was amazing to drive at night, super easy to park in the city and I always loved the whine of the electric motor. I love when people are negative on EVs because it makes it cheaper for those in the know

[@Ducksnuget]

@@monkeysuncle2816 They won't reply because they literally have nothing to say.

[@SigFigNewton]

@@BigRed-MWAWe can’t tell whether you are being completely absurd and announcing that op is guaranteed to go back to gas cars, or whether you’re making the almost-certainly-true guess that op will at some point in the future have an issue with their vehicle. That’s how cars work. They get used until stuff is wrong with them.

[@T1Oracle]

Driving an EV through the woods with the windows down so you can hear the nature around you, is a blissful experience! 😊

[@cyberpleb2472]

Or you could stop the car and actually take a walk.

[@BigRed-MWA]

@@T1Oracle 🤡🌎🤦‍♂️

[@kalebdaark100]

True

[@carlsmith5545]

@@cyberpleb2472 lol!!

[@PeterparkerSlaps]

@@cyberpleb2472there’s like a drive through zoo in my state and it’s just so much nicer driving through nature. Because you cover more ground in less time and calluses

[@fromtheblonx]

I was a sceptic. I used to dish out all the standard 'against' arguments. None of them, so it turns out, are valid. Not once have I wished to have had an ICE since we got our Skoda Enyaq. 300 miles of range. 25 minutes to fully charge on AC, which we've only had to do once in 4 months. We charge at home mostly which costs us next to nothing (about £4 to fill the battery), it is super clean, super comfortable, fast, reliable and good for the family. I'll never go back!

[@nkt1]

So many people dish out the standard ‘against’ arguments without actually having any experience of driving an EV. I know someone whose partner works for a Tesla repair facility in the UK. They refuse to own one, despite being offered a hefty discount, because they believe they’re far more dangerous than ICE vehicles. It’s bizarre how EVs have become such a culture war issue.

[@Utoko]

@@nkt1"far more dangerous" when model Y and 3 are the safest cars in the world.

[@andrespalma2]

When you say "super clean" what does that mean?. I'm a bit worried about the batteries materials and how to discard it once it dies (because it will) supposedly after 10 years. I was thinking about getting the new Volvo EV but I keep thinking about that

[@matthewseymour8972]

@@andrespalma2 On balance its likely to be more than 10 years... probably, but the packs can be recycled. The biggest challenge to an EV battery recycling plant is not having enough EV batteries to recycle. Redwood Materials is the big name in the US. In Europe there's a company (I forget their name) who have been working with the German manufacturers on recycling prototype and test parts - I understand they were extracting something like 97% of the materials from the batteries. So essentially they won't be thrown away, just as we don't throw away lead acid batteries.

[@andrespalma2]

@@matthewseymour8972 That's good to hear! I currently own a 2010 Grand Vitara with 250k miles and the idea of short-lived batteries and battery waste was not computing to me. How much the battery degrades over time is an important factor I don't have a number for

[@acmulhern]

We've had an electric car for 7 years now and the charging station availability has really made it so much easier over the years. We live in Europe and many european countries now have fast chargers at every gas station on the motorway, which is amazing. You can drive from Amsterdam to Paris without even planning your route, as long as you keep to the main road network. Availability of charging stations really is key to the shift to electric cars. My dad, who has always been sceptical of electric cars, was shocked when i took him on a road trip and we'd just plug in the car every few hours, go for a quick toilet break and it was charged enough to move on again. He thought there'd be massive queues at charging stations because people would need to charge for at least 1 hour.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

I got my first in 2018. It was a shorter range model. Road trips were borderline impossible. By even 2019, it was fully usable. Now with longer-range models? Enter the destination and let the vehicle plot charging. Haven’t had any problems in years.

[@acmulhern]

@AnonymousFreakYT absolutely agree. Our 1st EV was from 2014 and had less than 100km range, so we often got stressed about making it home, especially in the rain when the wipers and air had to be on for visibility. Since then we've only leased EVs to stay up to date with the technology and this year's latest car is amazing. It feels like we barely ever have to charge it, even when travelling.

[@jfrancobelge]

"as long as you keep to the main road network". That's where there might still be an issue with EV's. If you like to leave the main roads and wander randomly on small country roads in , e.g. the empty plateaux of the Massif Central (central France, "where there are more cows than people"), you'd better be careful and reload as soon as you come across a charger.

[@jojolapin235]

@@jfrancobelge use the travel planner then.

[@chaiusvult3778]

From India and it's been so great here with EV scooters. They're silent and don't release any exhaust fumes (which is a blessing for other riders). In the city I live in there are a good number of charging stations. And the scooters and bikes are only getting better

[@stewdean]

That's really interesting. It's good to know India is moving that direction as well.

[@Kingdennissinned]

When they catch on fire they release toxic gases ..

[@67NewEngland]

- But the India coal plant making your electricity is billowing pollution 💨

[@byggerEttSlott]

Electrical scooters is really the future of Asia. Adaptation might be slightly slow but I saw the same in Taiwan where people start moving over to electric scooters. There they have a pretty cool system with charging boxes that you just swap which means 0 downtime. Literally faster than filling up gas.

[@Alantj22]

​@@67NewEngland But miles away from the city centre and only a tiny fraction of what a petrol engine would have released.

[@allenmontrasio8962]

The ideal condition of owning an EV is as a company car, having your own garage and ideally your own solar panels.

[@Girlbrush.Threepwood]

I've had a 2015 LEAF since 2021 (I'm the 3rd owner), and besides the range I absolutely love it. We have a charger at home and one at work, and I mostly do small distances. I'm in Canada and in the winter I lose about 20-30% range, but I just charge more often.

[@colinwiseman]

It's crazy to think the UK, a tiny country, has more chargers for fewer EVs than the USA! I love my EV and never had an issue long distance.

[@darylfoster7944]

More total chargers, not fast chargers

[@ImLivinSD]

Just curious isn’t the UK all 220 volt systems ? As that would make it easier to charge at home with no additional gear.

[@patbarr1351]

@@ImLivinSD I'm in California but have 220v in my garage. It was still expensive to install a good charger because new wiring and circuit breaker had to be installed to get the most out of it. Nice to have a 50A system though. I have friends with short commutes living with 110v too. Options are nice.

[@dubzfry]

@@ImLivinSD the UK is around 230-250V. However our plugs are rated for 13amps and the standard circuit is 30amps. Most people that have EVs have a dedicated charger on its own circuit usually 7kw but some can have up to 11kw if they have 3-phase power supply

[@redbaron6805]

@@ImLivinSD Most people get this a tad wrong, as they think American homes are 120V, but... that isn't exactly the case. Homes in the USA are split phase 120V, meaning we have two 120V lines run into our homes. Most things are obviously 120V, TV's, toasters, computers, light bulbs, etc. But many things are 240V, like air conditioning and heat systems, clothes dryers, the oven, water heaters, etc. They do that by combining the two 120V lines to make 240V, as the two 120V are out of phase with each other, and therefore make 240V when combined. Hence, most homes in the USA are both 120V and 240V, hence most people can charge at 240V at their house.

[@cassiesulbaran]

We installed a home charger for our Teslas and are loving it. Took them both on a long road trip and the supercharger stations were very convenient to use. We’re never going back to gas!

[@pete5405]

"EVs are so great, you just need to be rich and you'll never need to buy poor peoples cars again!!"

[@mewdrarkham5293]

​@@pete5405 Bro what are you talking about 🤣🤣🤣 theres many gas cars that cost as much if not more than EVs

[@xipalips]

@@pete5405 My Tesla cost 27k, almost half the cost of the average selling price of a car in the US

[@JosephWillingham]

There is ALWAYS an 8 year/100,000 mile warranty on the battery (at least) US federal guideline

[@perolito83]

Good luck trying to sell it after that expires though.

[@joe3276865536]

@@perolito83 The batteries don't go poof. After 100,000 miles the range will actually degrade more slowly. It will still be a great commuter car. Someone will buy it as a family's "second" car. You are thinking of people who have to have one car do it all such as single people. You probably won't sell it to them.

[@voice_of_terra7228]

​@@joe3276865536 Nah they won't - see the used EV market analysis.

[@leosheppard8517]

Doubt it. Where is your proof? Where is the legislation?

[@zachazlett]

We’ve taken our ID.4 from southern Ohio to Galveston, Chicago, and Durham in a bit more than a year. Each trip was pretty uneventful. We love the car!

[@jpbliss1]

Hi, Southern Ohio here too! What I don't appreciate is Ohio's extra yearly registration fee ($250). For me, it exceeds what I would normally pay yearly in gas taxes.

[@youruniquehandle2]

I own a Bolt and a Tesla and the difference in road tripping is night and day. I owned the Bolt for 2.5 years before I got a Tesla, and road trip planning was extremely important because the charging network was unreliable and 25% of the chargers I would find on plugshare/evgo/chargepoint/electrify america/ABRP/Volta/Shell Recharge/google (Yes I have 7 apps installed just to find and use chargers) would be inoperable. I would spend hours planning routes and alternate routes just to make sure if one charging station was down I could reach an alternate. Road trips were completely doable but there was always a little bit of anxiety, not about range, but about charging infrastructure. Things have gotten a lot better in the past 5 years but when I got my Tesla I couldn't believe how simple it all became. Put your destination in the car and it figures out routing, charger locations, charge times, pre-conditioning to optimize charging... everything. All of that charging stress just went away. Tesla has far more charging locations and much higher reliability than any of the other major DCFC companies. So since I bought my Tesla 2 years ago I haven't thought about charging, at all. I still use the Bolt for my commuter but the Tesla works great as our kid hauler/road tripper/camper puller. *One note, EVs do have differentials, without them, you couldn't turn. The "hump" in the middle of the car is a tunnel/channel for the drive shaft if you have a front engine with rear wheel or all wheel drive. EVs have separate motors in the front and rear so they don't need to mechanically transfer power from the engine bay to the rear of the vehicle.

[@SuperKimjong]

What you describe seems particularly a US problem... which is understandable given the size of the country the challenge to build out infrastructure is significant compared to smaller countries. In EU/UK Tesla had to adopt the CCS standard and have opened their network to all EVs for some time now. My non-Tesla figures routing, charger locations, charge times, pre-conditioning etc just like a Tesla does. Saying that Tesla superchargers are the most reliable still - and better priced! I often re-route my planning to go via superchargers so I don't have to pay Ionity/Instavolt pricing. Tesla chargers can be 40% less... which is kind of crazy.

[@ApocalypseNouille]

Yeah, I'll confirm that the Tesla supercharger network makes long distance travelling a non-issue. Time your stops with pee and lunch breaks and it doesn't add much to travel time at all. If you can charge at home, the brand of car doesn't really matter. EVs are awesome as daily drivers.

[@nas4apps]

In Europe, I never experience any charging station issue. Just with Tesla who demand an app, others accept standard payment options (NFC - chip). No business of the charging station to know who I am (like Tesla seems to demand car data).

[@ApocalypseNouille]

@@nas4apps the Tesla app is a non-issue, because it's basically your key to the car, so you'll have the app installed anyway if you own a Tesla and it makes the charging experience seamless. But I do agree that all chargers (Tesla included) should accept NFC payments like any gas station, so you don't have to use an app.

[@nas4apps]

@@ApocalypseNouille Ah, the Tesla app only works as a key for Teslas. I drive an Opel (Stellantis) .The Corsa-e. Small car, but certainly 'zippie'. And small can be practical where I park - also: efficient, just doesn't catch much wind. Usage: daily standards, family visits, shopping and mostly to get to work. So I tried Tesla's 'supercharger ' station and the EV charging areas at gas stations, road side, work parking charging and at home, I 'trickle charge' at 2kW. Tesla took me to download an app and fill in all kinds of info but held a reasonable price: €0.29/kWh which includes VAT and Dutch energy taxes. At home I pay about 25 cents, work even goes to 53 cents which ticked me off a bit! 😉. Never ever have seen or noticed a non-working charger.

[@Artofcarissa]

I’m so glad you gave a shout out to Hank Green’s putty car video cause that was the first thing I thought of when I saw yours 😂😂😂

[@onetuliptree]

My grandfather embraced the new technology, and in the 1920s he drove a car from Wisconsin to Arizona. He said he had to carry gas cans, because there weren't a lot of stations, and a shovel, to dig the wheels out of the unpaved roads.

[@darylfoster7944]

In the early days, you could only buy gas from a pharmacy.

[@darylfoster7944]

@@shannon6876 I'm talking about very early 20th century. There were two gas stations as of 1907.

[@sascharambeaud]

@onetuliptree I suppose he was laughed at by horse people back then? ;)

[@stephenbaxter5804]

Had a BYD EV for 2 years now (I'm in New Zealand so we have cheap Chinese EVs!) and i still love it every time i drive it. In fact we just got another EV and traded in our petrol car. No more gas station visits for me, unless its for snacks. Thankfully our charging infrastructure is pretty good (at least one fast DC charger every 44 miles) and getting better all the time - a 9 hour drive is literally driving the length of our North Island and we would never do that without multiple stops anyway. So plenty of opportunities to charge while we eat and stretch our legs.

[@bythegraceofadoni]

Surely tho, we can do better than support Chinese EV companies. Have you driven American or Korean brands to compare?

[@robsengahay5614]

@@bythegraceofadoniThey are good but cost a lot more….and I mean a lot more.

[@andrespalma2]

​@@bythegraceofadoni Chinese EVs companies are probably the only ones with a wide gamut of offers to suit different wallets. BYD quality materials/assembly has gotten a lot better also (thankfully).

[@InsoIence]

I'd be careful about Chinese EVs, they have been shown to cause a lot of issues. Burning down and going out of control seems to be common enough.

[@stephenbaxter5804]

@@bythegraceofadoni BYD was both superior in tech and price value. However i have just picked up a 2nd hand Hyundai Ioniq as my runaround town car.

[@ChristianBehnke]

Glad to hear you're enjoying your EV, and I'm sure we all have the same thoughts about the negatives... But we're still in EV's infancy! It will improve!

[@DigiDriftZone]

EVs actually predate petrol and diesel cars :) - we did see that big tech improvement in the 1970s that allowed for Lithium ION batteries in the 1990s, but we don't quite know what the next tech leap will be, it is potentially 30-50 years away. Lithium Ion batteries have very marginal gains year on year, and recent chemistries are actually trading energy density and charge speeds for safety and longevity so in some ways, we're moving backwards.

[@monkeysuncle2816]

​@@DigiDriftZone battery prices dropped 30% last year. They've dropped 90% over the last 10. Try harder.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@monkeysuncle2816 The've dropped 30% last year because they doubled during covid. They are about within margin of error as they were 15 years ago once you factor in inflation. Try again.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@monkeysuncle2816 Get a quote for a 60kWh battery replacement. Elon promised it will be $5k by 2019, yet it's still $20k or more today in 2024.

[@iluvyunie]

@@monkeysuncle2816 doesn't change the cost of maintenance being way too high for regular people or the fact that l-ion is a depleting resource fished out of the ground by children

[@MrTekniqs]

As a person that wears hearing aids. I could not hold a conversation in a gas vehicle with any music on. In my electric car, I Can Hear EVERYONE. Even people in the back seat. It's so great being able to hear people when they're riding in the car even if they try to whisper (with music off). So for the people like me with hearing issues that can use hearing aids to assist. This is a great experience, I think.

[@Gwenx]

We will get an EV when i finish my drivers license, 2 years ago there where NO charging stations in a huge range of our town.. We live in an apartment so we would not have had any chance to set up a charger on our own.. But yea in just 2 year all gas stations has chargers, and we got parking spaces with chargers where we live! So now we are a 100% getting an EV! My dad also got an EV recently and damn that thing drives so smooth it was a dream to just sit in, he also showed us those features you mention with keeping the lane, and it can be set to drive a specific speed, and it will keep more then the minimum distance to another car in front, so cool!

[@AshelinFox]

We have a 2021 Mach-E GT and LOVE it. I don't miss the gas station, though my city keeps building so many. I still have my 2011 Subaru Legacy that we use if we go on long-distance road trips, since charging can be a hassle. Just wish the charging infrastructure was more reliable. Some charge companies are definitely better than others. I feel like my state picked the wrong one on purpose.

[@SALVATl0N]

My favorite part of owning an EV? Turns out I hate going to the gas station. Who knew 🤷 Every 2 car household should have one EV, and one gas. It just makes the most sense.

[@smileychess]

I'm an individual and I own a cheap old EV for around town, and a cheap old van for hauling/long distance. It's a great combo. It doesn't exactly draw in the ladies, but I just cross my arms and blame them for that.

[@SigFigNewton]

So your argument is that apartment dwellers should not buy EVs?

[@roofdogblues7400]

@@SigFigNewton Apartment buildings should put charging stations in their parking lots.

[@SigFigNewton]

@@roofdogblues7400 sounds nice to me. But aren’t we dealing with a housing affordability crisis? That plan would exacerbate this

[@SigFigNewton]

@@SALVATl0N I’m super pro EV, but with the current state of infrastructure, am EV would be an irrational choice for tens of millions of Americans

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

I've driven an EV in Norway for 9 years. I totally agree with you. I never regret it. About your prospects of the future; I believe you are spot on. We have 85% of new cars being EVa and 25% of all cars are EVs. The charging infrastructure is decent, but if you travel on busy days, there might be a cue, however there were way less complaints about that this summer than previous years, while the number of EVs have increased significantly.

[@jmatt781]

The EV infrastructure in Norway is much better than here in the USA. My family out in Norway also loves them.

[@Heiwvwivs]

Yeah in Norway any kinda thing will be good. Let’s talk about other normal countries. Thanks

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

@@Heiwvwivs What do you mean by Norway not being "normal"? Sure, we’ve had strong EV incentives here, which may not be the case everywhere. But as EV prices drop, Norway is actually reducing those incentives, showing that this shift can be driven by market forces, too. And then there’s the cold-weather argument against EVs-I hear it often, but Norway is colder than most places, and we’re managing fine with EVs. In fact, almost all new cars sold here are EVs, hitting an all-time high close to 95% recently. Norway now has more registered electric cars than gasoline ones, though diesel still leads slightly. Plus, our charging infrastructure has kept pace with this growth and can already support 30% of our cars being electric, with rapid expansion underway. So when EV prices reach parity and more people worldwide prefer EVs, Norway’s infrastructure will be well-prepared. Other countries, without this level of development, might face serious challenges as demand rises.

[@jmatt781]

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 How do you manage charging your vehicle overnight if you live in an apartment complex in Norway? Also, do you have technicians that constantly make sure that the chargers are working? Dead, broken chargers is a major problem here in the US, with almost nobody being around to fix them. Also, people in apartments don't want EV's because they don't want to be fighting with their neighbors over only a couple of charging stations in their entire apartment complex, so you don't see many EV's at all in the big cities around here, especially places like New York City and Chicago.

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

@@jmatt781 apartment complex are mandated by law to allow sufficient EV charging. Often this is done through a contract with a charging operator. The operator takes the cost of installation and maintenance, in return the charging cost is slightly more than the grid tariff for kWh. The apartment complex board can make reasonable restrictions on charging equipment to choose from. That is, the equipment has to be compatible with the load balance/ load sharing function of the main controller and/or operator. They can't reject an application to install a charger, they can however demand it to be planned ahead, sharing capacity for all apartments. Street parking is more difficult, but there are solutions for that as well. Personally, I mostly charge at home, and don't have a lot of first hand experience with public charging except the Tesla Supercharger, and they are very reliable, and most of them are open for other brands too. My impression from the Norwegian EV forums is that the other operators are reliable too. They know they have to repair chargers quickly to keep their reputation in competition with other operators. In the early years there were often just 1 or 2 stations at a location, then there were more problems, now there are often 4 or more stations with the redundans providing more reliability.

[@nelsonoliveira1007]

I have owned my EV coming up this Oct for 3 years and driven 50 thousand KMS or 30 thousand miles. No regrets and would do it again. I charge from home at a cost of $20 a month. This is my main reason for going to EV and saving $5K a year on fuel.

[@stephenw2992]

It costs you more than $5k a year in depreciation though

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

@@stephenw2992 No it doesn't.

[@stephenw2992]

@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e Tell me what your EV cost, when you purchased it and what its worth used. We all know they are less popular than a second hand Volvo.

[@QuadHealer]

Thank you for this honest review with the pros and cons. I can only agree and imagine that in a large country like the US, it can be a struggle to get chargers spread out until there is more EV owners. Here in Denmark and Europe chargers are popping up everywhere, and I have no reservations about going on long trips. It charges fast in most places, and I don’t mind a 25-minute break every 200 miles. Even though I have a Tesla, it is a good thing that they opened up for charging other brands to alleviate the lack of chargers in some areas. Your content is well produced, with humor, well lit, in focus, with good sound quality, and without background music. It is a joy to watch. Thank you for this!

[@NilsRohwer]

We also have an EV, and with Solar and free charging at work, I haven't paid for fuel for over a year (aside from holidays) at this point. I also realise I dislike going to the petrol station, I love how efficient it is, your fuel comes from wires in your freaking home! I kind of enjoy being forced to take a little break (15-30 minutes) after a 3-4 hour drive, I would have normally blasted through until I arrived or ran our of Petrol. The relaxation of it is also very nice, it's quiet and smooth and super spacious.

[@tocreatee5736]

there is a perfect solution its called PHV. you can daily drive like EV , charge at home or work everyday. no need for gas. but there is ALWAYS backup gasoline engine. you dont need to worry about charging when you drive long distance.

[@NilsRohwer]

@@tocreatee5736 this is true, but you also add complexity to the whole system. One thing I love is the simplicity of it all, a gasoline motor has literally thousands of moving parts. An electric motor can, in theory, run forever. Where I live, services for cars are prohibitively expensive, and for not much more than an oil change. The other thing is the amount of space you gain when you lose the exhaust, geartrain and of course the huge gasoline engine

[@GetThemLyrics]

@tocreatee5736 So you get the best of both worlds will also picking up the worst of both worlds. So many more things to break and keep repaired.

[@Mububban23]

@@tocreatee5736 lower maintenance costs are a big selling point for EVs. PHEV still needs regular servicing of the ICE components and fluids, so you're not saving money on that side of things. OP also said they *like* being forced to take short charging breaks, better for overall comfort and alertness on long drives. I do agree most people could get by on the EV range provided they charge regularly.

[@bmw803]

​@@NilsRohwer Have you seen how many wiring, connections, and other components in a battery? I wish they showed this part. I have nothing against EV, as I own a BOLT EUV and a 2015 VOLT. The main problem is shitty chargers and winter range loss. They definitely don't suit everybody.

[@omaior20]

I think the most viable solution for foreseeable future will be very efficient small hybrid cars with maybe some modifications to the fuel or better exhaust filtering until there is a breakthrough in battery theology.

[@rdyer8764]

I believe the number you quoted was the turning diameter. The turning radius should be about half of that. (blame Euclid)

[@wheezywaiter]

Damnit Euclid! Every time!

[@rdyer8764]

@@wheezywaiter At least his name is easier to spell than Pythagoras.

[@codeman99-dev]

The error comes from a bad search result. Searching instead for "Turning Circle" gives 18.21 ft. Which is actually pretty respectable.

[@rp9674]

Let's confuse the issue by making it turning circumference

[@djangoropa9860]

@@wheezywaiter 🤣

[@Broken_But_Not_Broke]

I will NEVER understand all the EV hate. They are the best daily drivers! Maybe some people secretly love the cost of gas and routine oil changes. 2 EV’s charging from home only raised our bill $45 for the MONTH. How much are others spending at the pump for gas each month?

[@CodyMerritt]

Yes EV! Bought a used 2020 Chevy Bolt for 16k and its fun to drive, easy to park, and one pedal driving is very convenient.

[@bobbituka123]

EV owner for 4 years in the San Francisco Bay Area. It is our daily driver and road tripper within 300 miles. Anything longer we have our Toyota hybrid. Level 2 home charger. Wonderful driving past gas stations and seeing the $5.00 plus per gallon cost for regular and not having to pay that obscene amount of money to the petrol industry.

[@HypocritesExposd]

I’m 1.5 years into owning my EV and have all the same experiences as Wheezy except for his problem of lack of chargers. Tesla’s charging infrastructure is leagues above any other’s so I’ve done many road trips with zero issues. My one complaint is vandalism. Mine has been randomly keyed twice and $3000+ worth of vandalism on another occasion. I did nothing to these people. And don’t they know they’re on camera? People simply hate us, no matter how non-aggressively I drive and behave. Can’t we all just get along?

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

Sadly, haters will hate - I had a company car keyed all the way along from the rear flank, both doors and the front wing. It was a Jaguar XF and I guess this is the mark of envy...

[@luckymanindeed]

Thanks for the firsthand observations of this important topic. Much appreciated. I also enjoyed the team work of you and your wife; makes the presentation fun.

[@skumancer]

Also, for a country like Panama where I live, we have a great charging infrastructure, with chargers readily available in malls, super markers and parking lots. I can say there are more chargers per EV here than there are in Texas, where I last rented an EV and had A HELL of a time trying to charge.

[@praveensg]

The private industry has made a mess out of the charging infrastructure. There is so much opportunity to make it reliable while being profitable but it's been abysmal so far (evgo, chargepoint etc. have the worst reliability). In a few years, Tesla will dominate the charging market entirely (they are already right now by opening it up to other manufacturers).

[@jamesbringhurst]

great video, funny sense of humor kept me watching. Thank you sir

[@Davran2742]

My Chevy Bolt euv Lt has had zero problems, and is so inexpensive to run that I paid it off in fifteen months. I love how quiet and smooth it is. It was $25K less than the average price of a vehicle when I bought it. Annoyances? No heat pump means it loses range in the winter. Where I live there are good number of public chargers, but it still takes more planning than the usual two gas stations per block. Batteries are lasting far longer than originally thought. I don't see going back to ice.

[@youruniquehandle2]

I bought my Bolt in 2020 and it changed my life. I used to own an old Jeep and a Kia Sorento that I would spend every weekend working on. I really enjoyed it but realized how much of my life I spent fixing broken things on my cars. I sat down and did the math and found that the amount I spent on parts for my Jeep in the past 3 years + gas would pay for the Bolt. After incentives and trade in I got a used Bolt for $9,000. In the 5 years since buying it I've only had to replace the wiper fluid pump, cabin air filter, and one set of tires. I have my weekends back, I'm saving thousands of dollars every year, I'm reducing my local pollution and honestly, the car is a lot of fun. I've had such a good experience with the Bolt (despite the slow DCFC and less than perfect public charging network) that I bought a second EV and no longer have any ICE vehicles. I could never go back to an ICE vehicle now that I've owned EVs.

[@LouDeVere]

Thanks for the fun video! I bought a BYD Atto 3 over two years ago and I'm very happy with it. My wife mainly drives it and she loves it too. I bought a Tesla MY RWD last year but unfortunately I was involved in a no fault, serious accident where the Tesla was written off. I was protected - apart from some damage to my lower back due to the impact - but otherwise, all good. I'm now in the process of buying an Xpeng GT6 and have pre-ordered this. I think it will be sensational. Luckily I live in Australia where we're able to purchase the Chinese vehicles without ridiculous taxes. America, you're not so lucky.

[@metube9541]

Had my ev for over 2 years now and don’t want to go back to a diesel or petrol. Very reliable, quick, quiet and comfortable. Plus the bonus of not going to petrol stations means I’d probably pay a bit more for an ev than the alternative when renewing it in 2 years.

[@Ty-ls5xg]

This is the first time I've come across your KZbin channel. You and Chyna (sp?) definitely make it entertaining to watch. A lot of videos I watch for 3 minutes or less and can't take them anymore as they are too boring. On another note, I'm glad you are loving your id4. I've owned 6 EVs over the past three and a half years and my id4 is one of my favorites. As Chyna (sp?) Mentioned, the solid door thunk and overall solid feel of the car are my top likes in comparison to my other EVs. Ride quality is also really nice.

[@bungee7503]

We have owned a Hyundai Ioniq 5 in New Zealand for 3 years. Good charging network with solar at home: love it!

[@LarvisK10]

Can you do one of these videos for other green lifestyle things. Such as getting solar panels etc

[@DerrickBest]

1:45 low rung? you were there from the beginning! You're a staple! I'm very surprised you're still around. Haven't watch a video of yours in years. But you were there. You will always be KZbin to me.

[@skumancer]

4 months into our our EV ownership (Volvo C40), and we couldn't be happier. Makes my highly modified Ford Ranger (global version, diesel) feel like a slow, harsh brute. I still like my diesel and enjoy driving it, but in a few years, when battery tech has improve even more and we have more charging stations around rural areas, I can see me changing into an EV pickup.

[@10secondsrule]

This was very informative, very funny and not boring at all! Thank you❤

[@xliquidflames]

I absolutely love our 2023 Chevy Bolt EVU. A gas station at your house is amazing. We also have rooftop solar so its like _free gas all the time!_ Who can argue with that? Actually, lots of people do for some reason. But I love it. Very low maintenance is also amazing. Not changing the oil, by itself, saved us about $400 last year. Brakes! You will _never_ need new brake pads on an EV if you drive it right. With regenerative braking, using the electric motors to slow down instead of your brake pads, means your brake pads should last the life of the vehicle. Tires are about the only big maintenance item you have to worry about. It saves us around $1000 a year in maintenance costs. Insurance is cheaper. So now we're saving $1500 a year. Not buying gas. That brings it up to saving about $4000 -$5000 a year. Tax incentives. We got a $5000 tax break for buying it. It is so, so, so, so much cheaper to own an EV and we love it. Road trips are getting better. In Florida, where we are, the infrastructure is getting better. It's noticeably better from a year ago when we bought the car. I would have zero hesitation about taking our car on a road trip. Sure, it adds time to how long it takes to get somewhere. But ya know what I say to that? Ptptpptpptpt. I like stopping places to stretch my legs, get some food, rest my eyes, ect. I will never own another ICE vehicle. ...unless its a motorcycle. Those still aren't good as EVs.

[@autumnarcher]

I appreciate you breaking down the cost savings!

[@rp9674]

Love my 23 Bolt EV. Motorcycles pollute more than cars

[@xliquidflames]

@@rp9674 You're welcome. I just don't understand how people can argue against EVs anymore. They've come down in price, are cheaper to own, and the infrastructure is getting better. I don't know if that's true or not, that motorcycles pollute more than cars, but I know electric motorcycles are terrible. So, I'll keep riding my Harley until electric bikes get better. I get about 60mph on my Harley. It has a V twin engine which is pretty efficient. I'm sure if you compared it to a 4 cylinder in a very specific way, like maybe per pound or something, it probably does come out worse. None of that matters, though, because my point was that electric bikes are not worth owning right now. They don't have the range, charge speed, or price to justify switching.

[@rp9674]

either way, you don't have to dump what you have. The EV haters tribe cares too much, doesn't make sense. In the most extreme case you can't buy a gas car in California in 2036, let's say the rest of the country adopts it. The 2035 gas car is going to be 3 years old in 2038. Imagine how good electric cars can be by then, I think people will forget what they're mad about by then

[@SamRommer]

Public chargers in the UK are 10 times more expensive than charging at home 😅 that’s our biggest issue. The financial equivalent of driving a Z06

[@mikeforwarduk]

That's free-market capitalism for you.

[@SamRommer]

@@mikeforwarduk agreed! Need the gov to get involved and mandate a reasonable £/kwh figure because it certainly isn’t 85p 🤮. Should at least be “regulated” like petrol. No way they’ll convert the public to EVs by 2030 without it.

[@dresden_slowjog]

As a tourist and curious EV owner I talked to a charging gent in London in August 2023. He said he was an early adopter. As an incentive charging used to be FREE in London when the number of EV cars was low. Then reasonable fees were introduced but "now" (Aug 2023) it was quite expensive (more than here in Germany) I think 20€/ ukpound/USD for a full charge which is nearly double what I pay at my secret cheapest public chargers. I haven't got a wallbox, I charge at public chargers.

[@SamRommer]

@@dresden_slowjog proper rapid chargers are 85p/Kw here, so a full charge in a 100Kw Tesla would be £85, so about 24p per mile. Maybe not quite a Z06 then, whoops 😬

[@flavvsdasilver6442]

I'm so pleased that the carpet choir is still singing during the intro.😊

[@timothydog76]

I've owned a Tesla Model 3 for 6 years now and it's been great. Supercharger availability for Teslas is still the biggest reason why they are the best option in the US IMO but I look forward to more brands having access to more fast charging. One major plus that you didn't mention is one-pedal driving + regenerative braking! Absolutely one of the greatest things about EVs. I hardly ever touch my brakes when driving and slowing the car down actually charges the battery. The few times I've had to drive a gas car in the past years it just feels so weird and stupid to have to stop a car with brakes alone.

[@mattakudesu]

I've owned a hybrid for almost two years and I have absolutely LOVED it. It has literally cut my gas bill by 2/3rds. I used to pay around 32 bucks a week for gas. Now I pay around 28 bucks every two weeks. It's also really nice to have the electric motor to quietly drive around areas like parking lots or neighborhoods. Also, the regenerative braking is super cool and literally saves me gas whenever I have to brake or go downhill.

[@praveensg]

Wait till you switch to an EV. You will never go set foot in a gas station, even to get yourself a slurpee :)

[@grandtheftauto1233]

Wheezy I used to watch you forever ago when you were in the small apartment - loved it when the coffee was done. Nice to see you in my feed. Good take on electric cars. Just need the battery tech to catch up

[@dianahartley-kim7109]

I have had my EV for 6 months and love it. Home charging means I don’t ever have to worry about charging. My electric has not gone up much at all. Best decision!

[@jen1sur]

I've owned my electric for 4 years. Our longest trip was from Iowa to Toronto to Niagara Falls through New York back to Iowa. Best part, there was a free charging thing happening with Electrify America, and we spent $20 total on charging costs. 1800 miles for $20 can't be beat! My fave feature is the effortless driving. When I drive a gas car I can feel the effort the car takes to get going. My electric is like driving a cloud, it's so easy.

[@MommaDusk]

We still have the musical rug? I love that

[@ajack3380]

From the UK. I am/was a self-confessed petrol-head and drove Porsches for the last 10 years. Bought an ex-demo EV6 with a huge warranty 6 weeks ago and love it. Not tried the public network yet but charge it at home and it just works! It is like a rocket-ship if you want to drive it like 1 and way quicker than the German predecessor I had. So far my EV journey has been great and happy I made the change (and that is coming from a life-long gas guzzler)!! Will do some public fast charge tests soon and taken it on long drive just to prove that concern wrong as well. Oh, and if I drive it for its warranty length (the duration I had my last car) it will owe me nothing, so the depreciation point goes away too.

[@toddcamnitz6164]

We have a rear wheel 2021 model 3. Experience is almost exactly the same as yours. Echoing especially how nice it can be on longer trips to be forced to take a bit of a break and walk around. Great summary. Agreed 100%.

[@youruniquehandle2]

I own a Bolt and a Model X and the charging experience is a night and day difference. The Bolt can only use non tesla DCFC and maxes out at 55kW (but is only at that speed for a couple minutes and usually drops to 30-40 kW) so road trips need to be planned around 45 minute stops. In the Tesla, I just set my destination and go. No planning, no worry, just go. I do miss the pacing of stopping every 90 minutes for a walk or meal or shopping, but you can't argue with Tesla's ability to get you to your destination without hassle.

[@markshellard]

One of my favorite EV videos I've ever seen and on my 3rd EV.

[@halifaxstar]

I love my EV. I charge at work for free and having SuperCruise makes 99% of my commute completely hands free.

[@MrBrazil_]

Got an EV6, my first EV, around 3 months ago and I love that thing and only have a regular outlet in my garage and it works amazingly well for my driving reality. I haven't charged it outside yet and it's such a pleasure to drive it.

[@greyorbit]

I bought a Volt to "try EV" and was mad that I didn't get a full EV within a week. I LOVE EV.

[@vintagebikewurx3730]

The bolt is awesome. Saves me 4k in gas per year . Half as complex as a hybrid. Twice as dependable and efficient.

[@asullivan4047]

Obviously you're a satisfied customer.

[@timaustin2000]

Interestingly, the charging infrastructure here in the UK is now so good that long distance travel is a piece of p*ss but we STILL have endless press articles saying otherwise.

[@WorkFromHomeFriday]

@5:45 Our (gas) Subaru has all those "assist" features. HOWEVER, we live in the mountains, where roads are very curvy and these features ALL SUCK!! I've disabled all that I can. The adaptive cruise is the WORST because on tight curves, the car thinks that someone in a turn lane, or even an intersecting road is in your lane and the car FREAKS OUT! "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! Here let me SLAM ON THE BRAKES!!"

[@clomino3]

Mountain dwellers unite. Completely agree

[@onhandart]

We call my Forester the nanny mobile because it's constantly freaking out or yelling at us.

[@mikeforwarduk]

My Tesla m3P does the same

[@whodat90]

I have the opposite problem. Go around a turn with ACC on, the car you’re following goes through the turn and my car is like ‘yay, he’s gone! Floor it!’

[@Albebacck]

I’m glad to report we have no chargers problem in Europe. Just returned from 4000km road trip with my id4 gtx with 0 charging issues.

[@JohnnyChronic18]

Considering how bad the VW electric vehicles are I think that just proves how nice EVs are in general.

[@staceys1208]

We bought a first gen Model S P85 in 2015 used (Certified Pre Owned). We still own it, and still love it. We regularly drive long distance in it, and the biggest drawback now is that Tesla does limit the charging speed, supposedly to protect the battery health. But other than that, we love it, and we're going to keep it as long as we can.

[@ArielBatista]

Nice job. I have a ID.4, 2022 Pro S RWD. And in the 2 years of ownership I have put on 82k. It's been the best car I have owned. Don't have any issues with long trips. Plan is good. Besides being old I need the bathroom breaks every 2 to 3 hours anyway. Wife also has an EV. And so does my daughter. Solar in the house is great 😃.

[@ainhatda8807]

What you said is totally true !!! For a car that range 400 km which mean you drive for 4 hrs you need a 40 min. break just like you work a any factory, just plug in DC charge and have your lunch, everything will be OK.

[@tSp289]

I only have a small hatchback (Corsa), but tbh it was like when someone turns off a buzzing speaker you've mentally tuned out. You might not have noticed it til it stopped, but it's a massive relief and you never want to go back. Not just talking about the noise, but the feel, the ability to charge at home and the fact that nothing breaks on it every time I take it out like my last car. I get a little excited every time I have to go somewhere. I can reliably only get 160 miles out of its supposed 207 mile range (lies), which is a drag but I'd say a good 30% of that is due to how fun the right pedal is, especially on twisty mountain roads.

[@realfuturist9263]

The one downside of owning a non-Tesla EV is the charging network. The Tesla Supercharging network is nearly ubiquitous and is expanding rapidly. The other EV companies are subject to sad third party charging companies who aren’t expanding very fast.

[@HoltAlex]

*in some countries. The UK for example has a fantastic non-Tesla network.

[@brianmiller1077]

Didn't Tesla fire almost everyone on the supercharger network team?

[@EvanKnightIsGood]

​@@brianmiller1077 He hired a lot of them back. Elon is definitely a liability for Tesla though. As someone with a model 3 my next car won't be a Tesla specifically because of Elon's unhinged actions and beliefs.

[@GetThemLyrics]

Ironically Elon is one of the main reasons I went with Tesla. My next EV will also probably be a Tesla.

[@shraka]

@@GetThemLyrics That's an odd thing to admit. I wouldn't get a Tesla just because I'd be worried he was going to do to Tesla what he did to Twitter and it'd collapse. It's pretty bad to own a car that isn't supported anymore.

[@quantumphaser]

As a delivery driver, I enjoy using the EV, Chevy Bolt for my job. Quiet is very important when pulling a 9 hour shift.

[@andyl980]

Soo one of the Big reasons i decided to go with a Tesla vs. any other EV is because the Super Chargers are EVERYWHERE. I have an L2 charger at home and soon to be on Solar but one of the big concerns was what about when i am not home, virtually ZERO worry here. Coming up on 1 year and almost 20K miles, zero complaints.

[@miavaughn2393]

That’s not a thing anymore really, they’re opening superchargers to everyone, and also every manufacturer recently adopted the Tesla charger as the new universal plug.

[@evaflintironstag9356]

Love your sense of humor! Thoughts: Charging infrastructure is a complicated (and super expensive) problem that no one really thought through when rolling out EVs en masse. I worry about leaving major details of a transition to EVs to hopeful technological advancements (which most people are overly optimistic about). While im not an EV person myself, I'm glad you've really enjoyed yours. Its great to have the option to choose what works best for you.

[@RussellFineArt]

I’ve owned an EV for the past 8 years, and now own 2 Tesla Model Y’s, and love them! I charge my EV’s with my solar panels and small wind turbine and have no electric bill and no gasoline charges, at all.

[@allenmadison8775]

This is an awesome video 😉👍

[@HeavenlyH3R0]

Not a bot here , thank you for the video wheezy ! Always appreciated!

[@HeavenlyH3R0]

Also, the wife and I just picked up a hybrid. Love the spaceship noise when reversing:)

[@smileychess]

I'm a bot, what do you have against bots? beep boop

[@RyanLudlow]

Thanks for the great vid! I couldn't agree more. I have owned a Nissan Leaf (2016) for 8 years and love it! Like you said, it is the best car we have ever owned. It is so fast, so quite so fun to drive. No stops at gas stations, no oil changes, no smelly exhaust in your city. Our car only has a 100 mile range but it is fabulous for around town trips. You can start each and every day with a full charge. We plug our car into a normal outlet. It is very similar to charging a cell phone. :)

[@1diggers1]

I also frickin love adaptive cruise control. No down and up for me! I also like that orange Benzine thing on the visor to help you find your car.

[@ChynaGrove]

It's really for school pickup line but with as many moonstone gray id.4s as I see around here I could see it coming in handy for car identification too.

[@jimwhook]

Love the adaptive cruise control on my EV, game changer!!!

[@MrBashem]

@@jimwhook Is this your first modern car?

[@jimwhook]

@@MrBashem my last car was a 2017 diesel and it had basic cruise control. No adaptive feature. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@flyppster]

Love the informative video! We currently have a 2011 Toyota Sienna and a 2015 VW GTI. The GTI is because it’s a stick and compact. The Sienna for the two kids and I love the sliding door! We haven’t invested in an electric car, because we love camping and long drives. Our next set will have an electric or, at least, a plug-in hybrid. When the kids are older and there’s no more need for the sliding door. My GTI will probably be replaced by another gas car, a stick, that can haul for camping.

[@GuanoLad]

Infrastructure is the main issue here in Australia. We have huge distances between cities, so if you're a long-distance traveller, and we all are on occasion, they need to have a solid array of EV fast-chargers along every route, in as many places as Service Stations, and also in car parks, to really clinch it as a realistic alternative. Until then, too many people won't even bother to consider EVs, which is a great shame.

[@Muppetkeeper]

Yeah, I think Aus could be a challenge, but one that Aus can solve itself very easily. Stop trying to get MW grid connections to build a charging station, just build a solar farm and a whole hunk of batteries.

[@kasmstamps1897]

I moved to regional SA and since getting a EV, it has reduced the tyranny of distance. Means I've also been able to access health care earlier.

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

I heard Rivian may be eying Austrailia. Because they are a company that focuses on outdoor life with camping and off roading, their charging network tends to be located more outside of cities so their people can enjoy the outdoor life. Who knows, maybe they'll help with the charging network too.

[@nielsonderbeke8507]

I love your vibe buddy, keep it up! 😄

[@mr.anderson70]

Love our EV! Tesla with FSD is amazing on road trips. We've had our Model 3 for almost 3 years and there are always plenty of chargers to go anywhere. Just say where you want to go and it plots your course with charging stops and you're off. There are even Superchargers deep into Mexico and Canada.

[@MyFocusVaries]

"deep into Canada" 😂 it makes Canada sound like an empty wasteland.

[@smileychess]

@@MyFocusVaries - It largely is.

[@MyFocusVaries]

@@smileychessoh my. That's an interesting perspective. We call it pristine wilderness.

[@Xeronimo74]

FSD, lol

[@darylfoster7944]

It also helps that Tesla chargers actually work, as opposed to the competition.

[@L1VE3V1L]

You’re funny. I dig your editing style. Subbed.

[@michelleruppelt3788]

We’ve been driving EVs (always 2 in the driveway) since 2013 and currently own 4. - one for each driver in the house. We obviously love them!!

[@erich.4305]

do you still have the one you got in 2013

[@praveensg]

@@erich.4305 most likely. I have one coming up to 10 years this year and still runs like new (no rattles, no noise) and minimal range loss.

[@hackbod]

@@erich.4305 Fwiw I still have my 2012 Tesla Model S and it is running fine. There have been a few repairs needed for the screen and such, but the battery is still going fine.

[@dperreno]

Okay, my Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an equally amazing EV EXCEPT for the turning radius. Because the wheels are pushed out to the ends of the vehicle, it has a whopping 39' turning radius! I feel like I'm driving a bus when I try to park at the grocery store! Good thing about my I5 is that it charges really, really quickly. Even at a 150kw charger, it actually charges at around 175kw! (there are reasons why this happens) We just drove across central Oregon (Boise ID to Bend OR) and fortunately there was ONE (!) ChargePoint charger in John Day that was actually open so we could charge up enough to make it to Bend. We had spent the previous few days in W. Yellowstone, MT and I had to drive 28 miles to Island Park where 1 of the 2 CCS-1 chargers was working in order to charge my car each night. There are 2 hotels with 2 level 2 chargers each, but we weren't staying at one of those. There are also about a half-dozen Tesla chargers, but I can't use those either. It's a real problem if you want to visit the park with an EV. No real charging in the park either, though I was able to use a level 2 charger at the employee dorm at Lake Lodge when we were staying there.

[@trader548]

For me, not having to worry or maintain all these complex and failure prone parts is the biggest draw. Timing belt (cambelt) / Chain Turbocharger Intercooler Ignition coil packs Fuel tank and lines Dual-mass flywheel Gaskets like valve cover Fuel injectors Oil Pump Thermostat Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve Mass airflow sensor Oxygen (O2) sensors Catalytic converter Diesel particulate filter (DPF) for diesel engines Glow plugs for diesel engines High-pressure fuel pump Water pump Alternator Starter motor Head gasket Clutch/Clutch pack (for manual transmissions or dual-clutch)

[@stephenw2992]

I have a 91 Honda that is only just starting to need more than standard wear parts due to age and high Kms, half of which an EV needs at the same or higher intervals. 15 mins to change the oil and filter and check the brakes is all that is needs most years. Your EV motors need oil changes and the bearings wear out fast. You also have a cooling system similar to any ICE car.

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

@@stephenw2992 The EV cooling system gets nowhere near as hot as a controlled explosion converted into rudimentary rotation device. Meaning it does not need maintenance. EV motors are sealed units and require no servicing. I guess those filters and oil are free in your part of the world. And the waste oil does not find its way back into the environment somehow. Magic perhaps? It may surprise you that EV drivers were ICE drivers once upon a time. They know how much cheaper to service run and maintain an EV is - which is why they have them. It is all about economy for most people, not what is or isn't under the hood.

[@stephenw2992]

@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e EV coolant likes to leak into your motors whether they are sealed or not. They also need the bearings and oil replaced. Just like a 'sealed' automatic gearbox on your ICE car doesnt last forever. Dont you have oil recycling in your backwater like the rest of us? You can always burn it too. Pretty awesome on a bonfire. Your depreciation costs far more than my maintenance and fuel.

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

@@stephenw2992 Spoken like someone who has never owned or even driven an EV. Nice to know you are an armchair expert in such matters. Do you think someone who has an EV has never owned an internal combustion vehicle? (Hint : I have owned and serviced and maintained many). Unlike you, I make my decisions based on lived experience, not envy and spite.

[@stephenw2992]

@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e Thinking its envy and spite is a massive cope. I could buy a new Tesla for cash tomorrow but there are much better investments. Even if you do own one which is doubtful, you are just coping for the amount of work you have to do to pay for it when its just another car with no advantages over any other despite its high cost for basic performance and low build quality. Sorry but you arent buying any of the social status you desperately desire.

[@valmiles]

Fun video. From our family experience, we bought a Model Y in 2021 and will never go back to gas. Bought two more Tesla's for kids in 2023. Driving long distance (~400mi) has not been an issue using Tesla chargers, adds about 30 min to a 6-hr trip. The car wants to charge less often than the family wants to visit a restrooms or buy snacks. The cost of charging has been running about $24 per month per car in the winter and about $40 per month in the summer in AZ. Zero maintenance other than tires thus far.

[@drakeschaefer2491]

I wish the general conversation on EVs was more encompassing of all the non-automobile EVs too. I got an Ebike almost 3 years ago, and it's fundamentally changed so much about my life. I bike nearly everywhere now, and feel so much better, and freer doing it. I MAYBE use my car once every 2-3 months. I was worried I would still depend on my car alot, but you just adapt.

[@clomino3]

This is such an underrated comment!! I live and work in a small town in the middle of nowhere and even I'm able to cut my car use down to once a week instead of multiple times a day with my e-bike.

[@youruniquehandle2]

@@drakeschaefer2491 I think part of it is a language issue. Most people don't consider bikes as vehicles.

[@erich.4305]

@@clomino3 trying to figure out why an ebike is needed to do this. A regular bicycle has always been capable of doing this.

[@jmodified]

And besides vehicles there's also lawn tools. I've been using a battery-powered trimmer for 8 years, mower for 4 years, and leaf blower for 3. Blowers were the last to get powerful enough with battery. Electric boat motors aren't there yet but getting close for small boats.

[@EricaGamet]

@@erich.4305 Probably is too far on a regular bike. Or the infrastructure is set up for motorized (or non-human powered) vehicles, or the person is disabled. I became partially disabled and had to give up my beloved mtn. bike. When I get another bike, it'll be electric.

[@guse1219]

I took a 3 day, 1600 trip in my ID4. Basically, I jumped into the deep end. The first two days were a disaster. Several additional hours were added to the trip. Learning what apps to use to find chargers, learning the limitations of the native navigation when it comes to finding chargers, realizing how far I can physically drive before needing to stop. Day 3 finally went as planned. I learned you really need to plan out a road trip and not just rely on an apps routing. You may want to drive more or less between charging stops. If you can, just look for EA chargers at Wal-Mart. That made my final day so much easier. When on doubt, stop sooner rather than later. Range anxiety is real! Finally, based on my calculations, I spent more to charge than I would have on gas. For everyday use, it’s great. Very smooth and easy to drive. I find it relaxing. However, I have not found EVs to be quieter than ICE cars primarily because engine noise is typically not the loudest sound… it’s tire and wind noise which you still have.

[@robertmeyer8221]

In the video it comes across that you like that vehicle mostly because it is a nice, new modern car. I would agree. I like driving newer vehicles over older ones, electric or otherwise.

[@TK7-VB]

Exactly my thoughts. A few of the points are not exclusive to EVs.

[@my0wn0p1n10n]

I would say most positive points 😂

[@ncot_tech]

Having owned new cars for the past 10 ish years (on 4 year PCP loans) my first EV I got three years ago feels much more fancy than any of the previous petrol cars I've owned. I think some stuff like adaptive cruise and lane assist just work better when engines aren't involved. And some stuff that is "premium" on a petrol car must just come for free on an EV. But I have noticed most new cars of any kind now seem to have the anti collision radar, which is good.

[@perolito83]

Exactly, the review would have been almost the same if he had bought any 2015+ mid range car.

[@mistymu8154]

I imagine road trips in the US could be more challenging due to the longer distances. In the UK and most other European countries, however, I rarely travel to places that require more than one charging stop during the journey. We usually take a break for lunch at that point, and by the time we’re done, the car has enough charge to reach our destination. Rapid chargers are becoming increasingly common across Europe, but what we really need are more destination chargers. It would be so much more convenient if all B&Bs, hotels, campsites, tourist attractions, and car parks installed them. Having to hunt for a rapid charger is inconvenient when I could just top up overnight with a slower charge. Most of the time it is just super convenient as 99% of the time I can charge overnight at home. We recently drove from the south of England to Northern Ireland, set off at the same time and I arrived 30 minutes before the ICE vehicle. Assuming you are not in a rush and you take regular breaks (and the charging infrastructure is there) then there isn't a huge difference in travel time.

[@MarkDibley]

I live in the UK where there is a large amount of housing that does not come with parking, whether it is apartments or terraced housing or just housing with no driveway. What this is leading to is a two tier car owning experience. Where as before, owning a car was pretty much an equal experience between all drivers. Now, if you are privileged to have off road parking then you can access cheap power for your car. If you don't then you will have to pay the markup on street chargers. Fuelling a car is no longer equal and, as usual, those in smaller, cheaper, less privileged housing will be held back even more by this inequality. Strangely enough I have yet to see a KZbin influencer address this imbalance in an honest and practical way.

[@UmbraWeiss]

Because all these KZbinrs all well off and can afford a 60k car without issue.... For the average household and those in apartments there is no way an ev is a better choice or is even an option... There is a reason why the Ev mania stopped and it's crashing... No one to buy it anymore, and the average Joe will not buy a 60k car, and you need to be an insane idiot to buy one used when the battery can cost more than a new ev.... Ev adoption will slow down drastically in the coming years, in some county's people don't make even 10-15k a year... And the used ev market will never be an option for people like that.

[@circletech7745]

Thank you for bringing this up because it’s an indirect example of wealth inequality! One of my coworkers owns an EV, but they live in a house. That means they are able to charge up their car at 10 cents/KWh. Meanwhile I live in an apartment. My apartment has nowhere to charge an EV. Our workplace also has no EV chargers. So if I were to buy an EV I would have to use one of the public chargers in town that cost 2-3 times as much equivalent MPG compared to filling up a regular gas car. I bought a hybrid car recently for this very reason. If I’m going to be stuck paying for gas, then I might as well get the maximum MPG out of my car I can. Maybe if I have a place to charge my car at home I can buy an EV. But for now it’s a non-starter.

[@gavinwhite9743]

There is a need for cheap and widely available EV charging, such as at supermarket car parks. Rapid charging allows you to fill your car in a 20-minute shop. However, this needs to be offered at rates similar to those of petrol. So, if you can do 200 miles at 50mpg in 4 gallons, that's £26.40. 200 miles would take 50kw, so that would be 53pence per kw. Current pricing is often higher, say 75p per kw, about £11 more for a 200-mile tank. Over a year, that would be £660 more in 10,000 miles. It would make sense to introduce price capping on public chargers, as well as investing in infrastructure instead of bombs for Ukraine. Prices of EVs are dropping, which is good news for those wishing to buy used ones. EVs are running on existing batteries for 300k miles, which is way beyond the average life of a car in the UK.

[@aussiejed1]

I own a BYD Atto 3, love it, and agree with everything. 99% of my driving is commuting and I just plug into a normal power point at home.

[@MrSinnerBOFH]

I’ve driven my EV for 8 months and one of the best things is being able to appreciate good music… without having to crank it all the way up to overcome engine noise!

[@pioneer7777777]

Especially when accelerating, and even more so up a hill.

[@shockthemonkey7046]

UK based 2 ev household here… like you, on the whole, I like them. Public fast charging infrastructure here leaves a lot to be desired for us too, but road trips are shorter (UK is nice and compact :)) and the level 2 charging points are springing up everywhere. Entertaining piece of content btw.

[@buixote]

Smoother, quieter, no leaking fluids, no trips to the Gas Station, lower maintenance costs.

[@davidwrong3628]

The plus for the negative point for me is that I also get access to the Tesla charging network, since I bought my Chevy Equinox EV. So it's a win all around for me. I've done several long trips and have addressed my range anxiety. Best car I ever purchased. Love the tech and the cost savings!

[@protrainingtips]

I’d rather have a hybrid, encase I forget to charge or the power goes out.

[@Brad-sb1dk]

So, hybrids have higher maintenance than ICE or EV only, and catch fire more often than either. Also, gas pumps don't work without electricity.

[@b6yg]

@@Brad-sb1dk As it turns out, gas stations that pump while the power is out rely entirely on transfer switches and generators. In the past, gas stations weren’t required to have generators or an alternative way to power their gas pumping if the electricity went ou t- so during a blackout, residents would be left without power and gasoline.

[@Brad-sb1dk]

@EmmettBrown9 I believe that's a FL law only applying to evacuation route stations.

[@Supernaut2000]

I have a 2017 Leaf and in 4 years ownership I have saved $5,200 net cost compared to my last gas car. And this is NOT counting the lack of maintenance costs, other than 4 cabin filters, $50 total.

[@cloudyview]

While I wasn't there, a buddy of mine caught you and your driftless pony club over the weekend (and he shared a brief video of it) 😄

[@wheezywaiter]

It felt so good to play again!

[@DCTriv]

Slight correction, the ID4 does have both a two-stage one-speed gearbox and a differential. It's because it's RWD and located between the two rear wheels that you don't need a tunnel (because you're sitting on top of the flat battery pack).

[@TimeManInJail]

If you can purchase an EV, it is cheaper and financially responsible. The cost of fuel and maintenance fee is so much lower than ICE.

[@kkarllwt]

I drive a 15 year old mazda ( f**king mazda) with 92 K miles. I bought it 3 1/2 years ago for $ 1400 us. With all maintenance, I am at $ 10 a week and going lower . Give me an electric car with 10 years of expected usefull life left for $ 2000.

[@jackjones1915]

@@kkarllwtif you dont drive you dont need a car, and that mazda is ok, if you do 20k miles a year, ev will pay off while you still have garantee

[@kkarllwt]

@@jackjones1915 7 K miles / Year.. $3,20 gas. 33 mpg highway. 8 cent overnight electricity delivered.

[@henrikpetersson3463]

@@jackjones1915I also have a 16 year old Mazda. Great condition and drives great. I would love to have an EV, but it doesn’t make sense financially. I would have to drive it at least 200k miles before it started paying off. So sticking to this one for years to come makes a lot of sense. By the time its time to retire it EVs will be better and cheaper, and the infra structure will be better as well. I’m grateful for the early adopters, but staying behind the curve has always been a wise choice for me financially.

[@lachlanB323]

@@kkarllwt A 2017 model S with 430k miles has had no battery or motor maintenance. A model 3 with 150k miles only lost 10% of the battery and will likely last over 500k miles before a 6k battery replacement or 13k for a new one (Likely to be even cheaper in the future.). For 2k? No ev is that cheap. The oldest Tesla besides the roadster is a 12 year old luxury sedan with air suspension lol. There is no 15 year old model 3, 25k ev from 15 years ago doesn't exist yet. If you're dirt poor and can only afford that Mazda... an ev isn't for you... yet.