We WON'T have to wait LONG!

[@NerdNest]

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[@MasterPJ86]

I have to tell you, I'm 38 and I'm on KZbin since I was about 15. This is the FIRST time I actually clicked on the link of the sponsor of the video, even more, I'm going to buy it after Christmas! Thank you, a very good accessory for my steam deck that covers exactly the storage problem of this generation, and for a very good price it seems.

[@Moskeeto]

2:59 Transfering a game on 7% battery. Very bold.

[@SlimmCity]

I like how you can run windows on that little thing, I'm always thinking about downloading Windows in order to play Black Ops 6

[@Rai_Koroshiya]

I think Gamepass is going to be available within Steam OS .

[@ufailowell]

It needs to. Especially if Microsoft is showing up at the same event

[@lego_minifig]

I dont know. Microsoft has incentive to keep people on windows. I think a janky work around is the best olive branch that we will receive. Though I would love to be proven wrong.

[@ZidaneSteiner]

@@lego_minifig Incorrect, they have an incentive to keep people on GAMEPASS. If they can get gamepass on the iPhone, they are going to do it.

[@joaoboccoli]

@@lego_minifig they are all about "everything is a xbox", it should run on steam deck and competitors if they want to remain true to that statment.

[@lego_minifig]

@@joaoboccoli I do hope that is the case. I am seeing it from the perspective as just one more avenue to eventually abandon Windows entirely.

[@timmytrollstein8452]

Love seeing that he has the game stay in the bottom left, shows he reads the comments and I appreciate that!

[@badsamaritan8223]

Would be great to see Gamepass on Steam. But It's hard for me to imagine Microsoft willingly handing the gaming space to Valve. Once everything is playable on Steam OS, Windows is dead, and Microsoft knows that. Linux goes mainstream, and people realize it's way better than Windows in basically every way, and there goes all of Microsoft's data collection and ad revenue.

[@Dynamonic]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Microsoft there to announce that Game Pass is coming to Steam and SteamOS. It might get showcased on Lenovo’s new SteamOS powered handheld.

[@Rai_Koroshiya]

I'm thinking the same thing.

[@cael_84]

Game Pass on Steam never gonna happen 😂

[@Dynamonic]

@@cael_84 I think it’s more likely to happen now than it ever has before. Microsoft will undoubtedly want to find a way to maintain a significant presence on SteamOS, even if gamers have ditched Windows. A partnership with Valve would be an easy way for them to accomplish that, particularly with their ‘This is an Xbox’ campaign.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

Definitly this shit Microsoft APP coming to Steam os

[@cael_84]

​@@Dynamonicyeah but probably it's gonna be like EA Pass or whatever, game pass only for Microsoft games I can see that happening, not for every game on the store

[@OpoSai]

Bill the nerd nest needs to be a team effort that covers CES, if not live at least a recap? That would be amazing

[@JimmyCall]

Lenovo needs to get SteamOS on the device as default. People will lean into buying the device with Steam buttons, and that will cement the support future.

[@renkuria]

I just don't trust lenovo for long term support, they have a bad history of abandoning their software, people trust them so little that there are almost no accessories for the legion go.

[@JimmyCall]

@@renkuria Totally agree. I would never buy them as they have a history of locking up systems from modding.

[@NULL_dude]

That savepoint thing is actually a really cool idea. I'm sure they'll iron out the cable management.

[@budthecyborg4575]

If Microsoft reveals anything at the Lenovo event it would probably be a new Windows frontend for handhelds. Legion Go 2 is the perfect device to launch with a completely new Windows interface. I give it a 25% chance of ever seeing GamePass on Steamdeck, that would either require Valve to build a competing game store into steam itself, or Microsoft creating a GamePass launcher within Arch Linux, either case sounds pretty unlikely.

[@Luke357]

It wouldn't have to be a competing store. EA play is already on Steam. Microsoft would have to add a lot of their titles to Steam, but they could just add a subscription like EA play already does.

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@Luke357 Does EA Play still work on Steamdeck? I would have expected all of those games to require the EA launcher to run as well.

[@Luke357]

@@budthecyborg4575 I have NFS Heat working on my Steam Deck and that runs through EA Play just fine. Technically the subscription is through Steam, the only reason the games have EA play is because they require it.

[@Luke357]

@@budthecyborg4575 It does. Technically the subscription is through Steam though, so the licensing is all in Steam and not EA play.

[@InnerFire6213]

Why would valve share a stage with Microsoft if they’re going to be announcing their rival handheld os 😂. If gamepass is coming to steamOS it would be via a streaming app.

[@meh78336]

Honestly, after getting my old Steamdeck back from my mate to update it, I think Bazite is better than SteamOS, simply as it comes with more quality of life extras out of the box compared to the SteamOS. Yeah you can add the extras to SteamOS, but outside the novelty of giving it a try if it does get released to non Valve handhelds, Bazzite seems to be the better option as its picked up on Valves slack on the OS outside of Steam.

[@Gingerlion777]

Xbox handheld Sony handheld.. it doesn't make any single sense.. it's gonna cost a lot! And you are limiting yourself to sony or xbox.. while on the competition you have steam and a huge library. Microsoft won't ever allow a xbox brand handheld to run steam

[@deadlyx]

@@Gingerlion777 i believe xbox handheld will run steam games.

[@wallace8637]

I dont think so. Than let xbox console to run steam too.

[@ZeFoxii]

Hence why I won’t buy it.

[@lukethomas3285]

it won’t have steam unless it runs windows 11

[@GabQQQ]

Microsoft literally says that they want to bring other stores to Xbox hardware from the next generation. Phil Spencer confirmed that in multiple interviews.

[@josefknechtable]

Hmmmm, maybe we will see Game Pass on SteamOS.

[@CilantroLimewire]

I think there’s a slim chance MS reveals an Xbox OS to compete against Steam OS and uses this Lenovo handheld to launch it.

[@unbornG4]

Love the channel. One suggestion, during B role it would have been helpful to just pop in a photo of the rumored lenovo Legion S for reference as you discussed it for those of us who hadn't actually seen it.

[@pixels_per_minute]

I think people are looking into that CES detail too much. Lenovo is showcasing multiple handheld models. One will run Windows, and one will run SteamOS. I really don't see it as any more than both Jason and Pierr-Loup needing to be there as spokespersons for the respective companies. If Xbox Game Pass was coming to SteamOS, data miners would have known about it the second something got pushed to SteamOS, and it really doesn't make sense, business wise, for Valve to include Game Pass in Steam. Not unless it's specifically for Xbox games only, like how EA Play is for EA games only. They also couldn't allow people to link their Xbox accounts and get Game Pass games that way because Valve wouldn't make any money off that and would be forced to honour all those game downloads for free. There is more of a chance that Valve makes their own Steam Pass, then work the entirety of Xbox Game Pass into SteamOS.

[@SheddysGaming]

I really hope it doesn't run Windows. I think the last thing Xbox needs to do is build something else that offers no edge against any of its competitors.

[@vilian9185]

They have windows source code, they can make it run like steamOS, it's gonna run slower but wherever what competidors need todo is accept SteamOS

[@bnr32jason]

Microsoft has supposedly been working on a gaming focused handheld version of Windows for a while. Something closer to SteamOS than basic Windows.

[@unbornG4]

@@bnr32jason I've heard that for years. I'll believe it when I see it

[@dylangirard4670]

Your sponsor clips are so good.

[@vonbrendt01]

I can't wait to see if the new full sized legion go is OLED and an upgrade in performance. I love my legion go. I made a whole miniature gaming setup using the Legion Go and official dock, a second 7in touch screen monitor, the Legion k510 mini mechanical keyboard and the Legion 3in1 mouse. I made a couple shorts showing it off. Anyway I really like the Legion. And am looking forward to seeing the new generation. I probably won't upgrade untill the legion 3 though. Unless the Legion Go 2 is a massive upgrade.

[@lucasjohnson5803]

COREKEEPER WAS SICK IF YOU LIKE TERRARIA BUY IT

[@petemisc4291]

I don’t think so! lol, why would valve share any revenue with Microsoft , heck, if they wanted to, they could just have there own steam game pass, collect all monthly revenue and give some back to developers based on the games played by the players

[@pixels_per_minute]

That's exactly my own thoughts. If Valve was going to put Game Pass on Steam, then why not just make their own Steam Pass? Steam is their storefront, and they would have the infrastructure, so why give all that to the company they hate.

[@unbornG4]

@@pixels_per_minute Yea I agree, however on the flip side, Valve can get more traffic to the Steam store with gamepass integration and for them, I think thats more important.

[@lennymarinez]

You had me at bento box. 😂😂😂

[@Roach22]

I think it's likely MS will be showing of their new Windows handheld mode.

[@Eevolved36]

Bill, I was just wondering if valve release steam os for any device. Will you still be rocking bazzite on any of your systems? And a follow up question, since the rog ally and the legion go do not have a steam button nor a quick access button, does this mean we wont be able to get steam os for these devices?

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

My biggest problem with some of this video is that you seem to assume that these companies actually care about consumer choice beyond its value as a marketing buzzword. Ultimately, when it comes down to what kind of products they produce and sell, consumer choice is the last thing on their minds. Assuming the rumors are true, Lenovo isn't producing both a SteamOS and Windows handheld to offer Consumer Choice, they're doing it to hedge their bets. Their thinking would be, "if the SteamOS handheld fails, at least we have a Windows one to fall back on". The fact that it aligns with consumer choice is just a happy little side effect. Similar can be said of Microsoft. The reason why they might be pushing Xbox Cloud Gaming on SteamOS is the more platforms its on, the more customers they can get and the more money they can make. Also, if Microsoft does make a Windows Handheld PC, it won't be to benefit the customer, it'll be to prop up their flagging marketshare. I personally think that Microsoft is working on an Xbox handheld that's going to be a dockable handheld in a similar vein to the Switch and it'll be their next gen console and I think Sony is doing something similar. Remember, console generations generally last roughly 7 years and we're currently in the fourth year of this generation (definitely doesn't feel like it, does it?), so it wouldn't surprise me if they're working on their handhelds now for a 2027-2028 Holiday release. And it's not like this is the first time Microsoft and Sony have ridden on Nintendo's coattails... Need I remind you of Kinect and Playstation Move?

[@fishteagaming]

Making an Xbox Handheld does makes sense especially Xbox’s Play Anywhere feature. They did confirm it but not anytime soon. Sure, Windows can play all these games but it’s not built for handheld.

[@IanB1015]

Will the Lenovo /xbox event be televised or streamed on KZbin for normal peeps to watch?

[@markcahalan5698]

Honestly, I'm kind of curious about what's going to happen with Nintendo because of this. They've never really been challenged in the handheld market before. Kind of bizarre that it got kicked off by Linux PCs and not Sony trying the PSP again

[@GRUNTxZERO]

"This is an xbox, this is an xbox, this is an Bento box, this is an abox..." 🤣🤣

[@fvjtfjnx6535]

I have one device thats a playstation. I don't buy games for it because they don't cross buy cross play, cross save or cloud stream my purchases. My 2 gaming PC's, Xbox, steam deck, phone, tablet and switch (yes if you know how) all can play. Why would I buy a game for one device that has to sit in front of a TV.

[@Kepppo]

All i want is be able to play Elden Ring at 800p or 900p at 60fps, for 2.5hours, ALL I WANT

[@michaelburnhamdidnothingwr7785]

I'm in a weird, "niche" space. I own most of my games on Steam, love my Steam Deck...but I also have an Xbox, use Gamepass, and have a sizable Xbox library. Get the chocolate in the peanut-butter, already! It's not that difficult.

[@Hakuja88]

You’re a teacher? That’s so cool! What subject do you teach?

[@fairplayer916]

Don't personally care which operating system it comes with. What I care about is the hardware. I want the biggest and best APU, paired with an acceptable amount of RAM. That being at least 24 gigs. And a screen of at least 8 in. Bonus points for vrr

[@Dkdarkstar]

A Steam console (free online games) with Gamepass would niiiice.

[@seethruhead7119]

the moment we saw the leaked device with steamos logo it was a done deal there's not uncertainty in my mind that we will get a steamos device from lenovo at ces 100% certainty

[@PillsburyNinjaKneadingJustice]

First. I appreciate your content Nerdnest! I watch near everything you upload. Merry Christmas

[@mattcy6591]

Love the game trailers in the background.

[@Thegoodsherman2]

Steam could easily make a Steam Pass. That would make much more sense 🤷🤔

[@ReviewThisTestThat]

I would like controller upgrade for Legon go with a steam os layout

[@Thegoodsherman2]

Microsoft Should make a small super fast Windows OS that you can only use for gaming.. I think something like that will come at some point

[@lloydbond13]

They have that for the XBox. I used to work for a partner company to Microsoft. We had source access. Ten years ago we were merging the kernels into onekernel. Xbox should now be running the same kernel any Windows machine runs.

[@MantequillaMe]

What happened to the Alienware handheld?

[@terrencetee0826]

That was announced well before even a SteamDeck, and it just disappeared smh

[@DavidBerger-g2h]

It exists but the Software support from Dell (Alienware owner) has been quite lacking.

[@Luke357]

@DavidBerger-g2h If it exists then what is the model number and where can I buy it? Dell has historically had great software support.

[@marco.pereira]

If gamepass was made available natively on the steam deck i would resubscribe again.

[@absolutelyfookinnobody2843]

Ai wonder if this is gonna be a start of a gaming industry war lol

[@PixelisedPaul]

Xbox players might want a handheld, but I don’t honestly think that steam handheld players want Xbox (that don’t already pay for it).

[@sureberferber9101]

Consider looking at a game called Mist Legacy. (Personally put 300+ hours into it.) Think of Runescape crafting & gathering mixed with turn-based combat, and it has the feel of a Tabletop MMORPG.

[@Hunnan1012]

Can’t we just get a handheld that has windows and steam os already built in. Easier that way. Windows for online games with anti cheat/game pass and steam for everything else

[@DawnJoans]

Watch Microsoft pointing at everything at the event saying thats a Xbox. Repeatedly..lol

[@Roach22]

What if AMD launches their ARM chip in Lenovo's next handheld next month and MS bring Game Pass to SteamOS?

[@hardcoregammer1964]

So if Xbox’s brand can be in the tank while at the same time having the highest profits, I wonder what their profits will be like when they come out of the tank. 😂 But there is a company that’s demonstrating the fact that your brand could be just great, while at the same time, your margins and operating cost can absolutely suck. 🤔 And if their brand is in the tank, why not use another brand as an operating system?

[@lloydbond13]

I just don't see MSFT allowing one of their OEM's to release a PC device without a Windows license. I think Valve and Lenovo are going to support SteamOS as an optional OS for the Legion Go S. Valve will probably have install images for the Legion Go S. I don't think Lenovo will market some kind of Dual Boot situation. Also, it could just be that Valve is there to talk up their Steam Input support for devices and Lenovo has put branding on their Legion Go S to reflect the Steam input support.

[@SleeplessTVgames]

Microsoft doesn't own Lenovo. They can do whatever they want, and would probably violate antitrust laws if MSFT told them they couldn't.

[@nowonmetube]

I thought the future of handheld gaming is the Nintendo Switch 2?

[@NerdNest]

Hah. Thats cute. In all seriousness the Switch 2 I’m hyped for. But only for Nintendo games.

[@seethruhead7119]

xbox let me play/buy games from xbox on my steamdeck and cross save with my xbox series x i will spend waaaay more money with microsoft if that happened

[@Zetler]

Sigh. I thought this would be about the Steam console.

[@tonyrosario1940]

Can Epic store games run on Steam OS?

[@VeerMaratha]

Nope

[@retro_ed746]

Yes. Use Heroic or Lutris.....

[@jaysee1982]

@@retro_ed746 Or Junk-Store from the Decky Loader on the Deck.

[@The-House-Cat-777]

I play a couple ez anticheat games so I can't get rid of windows on my ally x 😑

[@duvalmadman]

Gamepass coming to steam OS makes no sense for either party. Financially what does Steam stand to gain? I own lots of games on Steam that I firs played on Gamepass. If I could just download those to my Deck then I would have never purchased them. For Microsoft it also makes no sense financially. I am sure their is plans for them to release a windows handheld os to compete with Steam Os. Why give their competition a huge leg up in the competition. With all that said I still hope it happens. I have very fast internet and xcloud generally runs great on my Deck but would love to run the games natively. Hopefully this change would also cause all developers to start working towards making their games playable on Steam OS.

[@DavidBerger-g2h]

Its about avoiding getting regarded as a Monopoly and Gamepass and Steam are entirely different gaming branches. Valve gives a Space to sell Games and Xbox offers a selection of Games. Either Way if Steam gains more Steam Deck Users its a win for them becuase they gonna buy Games that are not on Gamepass and Xbox gets Hardware that sells the Gamepass well. Win Win essentially

[@MacBamboocha]

Everyone wants to ditch Windows, while I'm here hoping for the next Windows to become better for gaming and touch screen devices instead.

[@elexdifunto1]

@@MacBamboocha I just want a windows version like the Xbox for any upcoming handheld, and the option for desktop mode for when I don't want to play games and just dock my Legion Go and use it like a regular Windows PC. And not I don't like Linux.

[@MrML4L]

Couldnt you just run the game from the external drive? 100Gbps is plenty.

[@Montisaquadeis]

Right? That was my thinking why transfer between the 2 anyways when you can just run things off the USB drive

[@Coccyx69]

I can't trust these valve based channels after HL confirmed

[@GoodChimkin]

@@Coccyx69 HL is confirmed, no one with any credibility said it would be announced at TGA. Both Tyler McVicker and Gabe Follower (2 of the main sources of HL3 leak news) said before the TGA and after the HL3 TGA announcement rumours spreaded that they didn't think it's going to be announced at TGA.

[@DavidBerger-g2h]

What do yiu mean with trust do you think that their bias is to heavy ?

[@Coccyx69]

@DavidBerger-g2h yes. I am a massive valve fan but these channels take anything from reddit as fact.

[@anthonytalcott9237]

Firewatch was amazing

[@Omar-Asim]

All buildup no payoff

[@velvetvideo]

I left Windows in 2015...good riddance.

[@EminiMagic]

Most of my apps will only run on Windows 10 or 11, Microsoft owns the technology, and I've dealt with it for 30 years.

[@simwirx]

Astrometica and Voidtrain look interesting to me!

[@Montisaquadeis]

I will say Voidtrain is certainly much better with a friend to play it with. Astrometica looks like Subnautica in space which is a great idea to me and so I am in the proccess of downloading and installing the game