Lewis Hamilton's miserable Mercedes F1 farewell explained

[@Jainmanan2207]

I think him getting that Silverstone win was the best thing that could've happened to his last season at Mercedes

[@perikholt3395]

It might even have been the final time he’s first across the line. A sudden downturn in Ferrari’s competitiveness is not unheard of, after all.

[@rnosibZ57]

​@@perikholt3395Not this time everybody thinks this is still Binotto running the show, Ferrari now have Loic Serra the ex Mercedes Performance Director working at Maranello, several new engineers that are young and some experienced coming from other teams. Vasseur went on a hiring spree because he wants this team to go back to glory, with the signing of Hamilton it wouldn't of been his last win either this is a different Ferrari & 2026 may be one of their best seasons since 2008

[@bwest6275]

I think this is pretty obvious.

[@michaelp4122]

8 wins at the same track, even Schumacher couldn't do that, and this is Lewis's home race.

[@fix0the0spade]

@@perikholt3395 True, you never truly know who's going to be where season to season. Even if title number 8 eludes him hopefully he does get some wins in red.

[@1989eol]

His farewell was the british grand prix. That was the defining moment of his last year at Mercedes. After that it was just people leaving the theatre, while the credits are playing. Edit: The post credit scene is Lance Stroll driving into the gravel...

[@jefflight8188]

lmao

[@remkojerphanion4686]

It would really be a shame if Merc and Lewis part ways on a low note. All those years of success and glory should end on a high.

[@JCDenton95]

all those years of idiocy and incompetence*

[@bigmini2870]

@@JCDenton95you mean 8 consecutive constructors and 7 consecutive drivers titles? No other team has done that. Red Bull dominated for 1.5 years. They did for 8.

[@jadonmileseee]

@@bigmini2870 its more than likely some bs ragebait

[@everydaydose7779]

Then he should have retired when won like rosberg

[@Killerspaten]

2 wins in his last season is a high compared to the last two

[@JamesWeaver-t4k]

Know that feeling, like Mercedes been stuck in Groundhog Day since the ground effect era, usually feel lost when season ends but can’t wait for it to end

[@klyplays]

He is getting the Seb treatment.

[@defenda1]

No that starts next year.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

​@@defenda1 *continues next year.

[@coys-x3f]

Or he now just have to drive the car Bottas used to drive during his time at mercedes 😋

[@skyazuldream]

@@threebreak2956its karma because Seb was a disgrace driving for Red Bull and didn’t deserve 2 championships. Have no sympathy for Seb either.

[@swapnilnayak2449]

​@@skyazuldream how exactly was he a disgrace driving for Red Bull? And how exactly does he not deserve two of his titles. It's like blaming Max for Lando Bottling this year's title

[@carguy7627]

When Lewis says that one of the cars is performing better the way I interpret that is that George and his race engineer are doing a better job than Lewis and his are with the setup and extracting more performance out of the car. I don't think it has to be a hint at different treatment from Mercedes. I loved watching Lewis' run since his first year at McLaren until now. However, no one escapes the erosion that time brings and I would be surprised if he wasn't at least a tenth or two slower than he used to be - and that is all the difference in F1. I remember thinking that Michael Schumacher was going to find his form and decimate Nico Rosberg as a team mate. We saw how that went and that's what I expect when Lewis goes to Ferrari. Still great fun to watch the journey.

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

Plenty of times Hamilton was doing terrible until he copied the Russell set-up and then equalized. He's probably trying to be smart and find a bit of extra on George only to screw up his set-up into an undrivable mess.

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

4 years ago I never could have imagined it would come to this...

[@tina_suprema7494]

It was Nico who was copying Lewis’s set ups for the race and we iften heard him asking what line Lewis was driving during the race

[@LaveaFirmis]

Saying the spin in Austin was at all his fault is very unfair, in practice they both spun at that corner and the rear of the car was very unstable with the 'upgrade' on. That's what caught George out in qually which ironically destroyed all the new bits and saved him from spinning in the race. Otherwise either both of them would have spun out or had to back off so much they would have come no where. If both drivers are losing the rear end at the same corner it can not be the drivers issue.

[@TheSt1092]

It's really sad to see how Hamilton's season has crumbled away . After Silverstone I was hoping he would get out of his malaise of the last few yeaars and be up there fighting for wins . I even thought at that point after the Silverstone weekend had Lewis might be the one to nab WDC runner up from Lando but things have really slid away since he inherited that win in Belgiium . In many ways Silverstone now feels it was like the closing of the book on the Lewis-Mercedes partnership. The sad thing is about the race in Belgium from his point of view is that could and likely will be his last official win for Mercedes but that because the win was given to him due to a post race DSQ for George, Lewis never actually got to celebrate the Belgium win on the podium. The performance of the W15 has since Spa kind of regressed relative to McLaren , RBR and Ferrari and has fallen back into a 4th best car nomansland . Hamilton's presence in Merc's social media material has also been very much reduced . They are pushing their 2025 line-up hard. The fact is Lewis and Mercedes are separating from one another after this year and he will be now isolated within the team . It seems like Lewis and Toto can't wait for the season to end so both Lewis and Mercedes can move on from one another. I'm sure Lewis will win races with Ferrari for sure . Titles? Who Knows?

[@MoptopTofer]

It's sad because when the stars aligned and Lewis had the car underneath him the motivation came back and it was clear that he could still fight. Now the car's performance has dipped and Mercedes has transitioned to putting their focus on George, which is why we're seeing this dip in form from Lewis. It's sad but it won't be much longer before we see him in red.

[@eyobmesfin8634]

clearly lewis is not Mercedes priority and they have stoped taking his input to adjust the development of the car to aline with Georges style. So his decline in performance is expected. in redbull they take only one drivers input as you can see the others drivers can't even drive that car.

[@askeladden450]

So we should ignore all the championships he won during 14-20 because the car was to his liking and not to his teammates? That's just a big cope-out. And we haven't even seen any on track evidence of Merc giving team orders to favor George. So what do you mean by 'clearly'?

[@TheAventadorSV]

lol they have always said they never took input from lewis and all of their decisions was solely based off of data. he was always considered just an employee to them, not a partner.

[@florinherlea8376]

​@@TheAventadorSV they took his input when they build the W11

[@mkfreestylers]

@@askeladden450ignore them dude, they just wanna say something to defend Lewis

[@antiwoke884]

You mean Perez can’t drive that car 😂

[@theslimeylimey]

Problem I see with these ground effect cars (and Mercedes in particular) is that they have to run low to get the down force from ground effects but, if they also run supple suspension for good handling, they get too much squat causing the ground effect to stall resulting in the excessive bouncing. So as a "solution", they run very stiff suspension to keep ground effect working and not have bouncing but now the car is so stiff it gets unsettled over bumps and becomes unstable, unpredictable and near impossible to drive at the limit. The engineers at Mercedes appear to not have been able to find a balance and wide enough operating window to make these conflicting parameters work as well as other teams have.

[@ghdrstream]

They simply don’t want LH to win his 8th WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE we all know it!

[@ashitkotian2396]

If it doesnt work out, its going to be a lot of this again next year with the usual "Its Ferrari politics". I dont think Mercedes are like that. They are desperate to get back to winning ways and we saw in silverstone all they care about is winning. Lewis tends to have ups and downs in form in a season and with a slower car its a lot more visible than ever.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

Yep. As do all drivers to be fair be it within a season or between seasons.

[@lovelehstuff]

I mean visually you could see Lewis's car bounced a lot more than Russel's in brazil

[@christiansimmons630]

Not just that, every time he entered a corner the back was breaking free and then getting the power it was snaking

[@lukasralys6096]

I mean it could just be different setups

[@lovelehstuff]

@@christiansimmons630 when the broadcast switched to his onboard in qualifying it was almost laughable how much the car wanted to spin no matter how gentle he was with the throttle

[@HexaSquirrel]

It's absolutely setup related

[@DickTahshon]

@@HexaSquirrelyou stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night huh?

[@Murphs37]

So they actually FINALLY confirmed the two cars in Brazil WERE the same spec? (8:15) Interesting... Maybe Russell should finally be properly given the credit he deserves for dragging performances out of that incredibly inconsistent car.

[@neilhandbury]

Same spec but not necessarily the same setup. So aero package the same but springs and ride height could have been different

[@Murphs37]

@@neilhandbury Which the driver and their side of the garage is in charge of... there has been a pattern this year of Lewis complaining about setup when it is heavily influenced by the driver.

[@Tom_Star]

​@@neilhandbury but the drivers can influence the setup, can't they? That would mean Hamilton chose the wrong setup path. Or is the driver's influence on the setup not as big as I thought? (Serious question, not want to blame or defend Hamilton)

[@Hamilton8timeChampion]

@@Tom_Star mate george had grip in his car whilst Lewis didn't. bit weird that would happen

[@Markwilson747-l2m]

@@neilhandburyit’s the driver that decides the set up genius. It’s a key skill set that top drivers possess

[@RickAnderson19]

If Lewis is getting too slow, why is Shovlin blaming it on Lewis’s car setup? Why not say he and George had the same setup? Then go on to say, "I don’t understand why one had trouble and the other didn’t." The subtext of the statement above is Lewis is slow. Mind games are being played, and lazy media are falling for them.

[@Enzoblueblood]

So your argument is he was fast at Silverstone and Spa and then after that he got slow? Bro, put some thought into this before you go around calling other people slow.

[@damianclark2080]

Someone has no idea 😂

[@RickAnderson19]

@@damianclark2080 Yeah, you and the other person that replied to my comment. I’m pointing out that calling LH slow and blaming the setup are contradictory.

[@lukew6725]

@@Enzoblueblood Lewis was lucky that George was DSQ at Spa and DNF at Silverstone, without those instances of luck he wouldn't have won a single race this season.

[@DorkLord135]

@@lukew6725 Lewis was dominating Spa throughout the race while George was nowhere and mostly running 6th. He made a strategy call to go for a one-stop, and the team did not inform Lewis George was on a completely different strategy until it was too late. Meanwhile George's strategy call is what cost him the DSQ because he lost too much weight from tire graining and he did not account for the fact that they don't go around picking up marbles because there is no cooldown lap in Spa. All you Lewis haters do is expose yourself for your lack of wheel knowledge. And are you REALLY discreding Lewis' Silverstone drive because George had a DNF from a crash he caused himself?

[@laman8914]

Since there is nothing to win in 2024, Toto and the Merc Team have decided to use SLH as a living test driver. He is being fed with cars that sport experimental parts to prepare for 2025. This is the reason why his car is unpredictable and underperforming. Furthermore, they do not want to risk the fact that SLH might end up higher in the driver's 2024 championship list than their 'new' lead driver for 2025, being George Russel. That wouldn't be welcome psychologically. Anyway, we have no expectations for the remainder of this season. We are anxiously waiting for the start of 2025 in RED.

[@yammt3148]

It'll be fun seeing him in Scuderia Red.

[@richardashton5015]

He will start crying from the start. Mentally ill team lh will be blaming Ferrari etc...

[@pb2158]

Funny to see all the British media coming together to talk about how it’s the car when it comes to Lewis.

[@andrewmelton2686]

Eagerly awaiting clowns like you going back into hiding next year when all theories are proven

[@MojoMachin3]

Max didnt win anything from the Spanish GP because Redbull was not a race winning car but still fast. Untill Brazil where with a bit of luck and his talent he was able to pull an incredible drive. I don't know what you are trying to prove with this bogus statement but no driver can win it all without a championship winning car. Senna, Prost, Vettel, Mansell, Verstappen, Fangio etc all won championships with cars that was the class of the field. I have seen many Max fans stating he is going the win the championship with the 3rd fastest car which is not true as he built his championship lead when Redbull was the fastest car on the grid and even when it couldnt win it was a podium finishing car at least(Don't try to say what about Checo, the car is develop to suit their number 1 driver Max which is why Alex Albon, Pierre Gasly and now Checo have all struggled in that second Redbull. Which is also why Dani Ric left in the first place)

[@broheme8922]

@@MojoMachin3 LOL. Of all the reasons Max-haters cite to explain away his brilliance, my favorite has to be "they built the car to suit him" delusion.

[@MojoMachin3]

@@broheme8922 Maybe you are new to F1 but Redbull have always favoured one driver. It was the case with Vettel and Mark Webber. Now with Max and Checo, Gasly, Albon, Riccardio. Dani Ric was the only driver who was competitive and what happened? He left cause they were going to prioritise Max.Why do you think all those drivers struggled?

[@patepulkkinenvtec2403]

​@@MojoMachin3Firstly, Max's 2024 season has been far from perfect as he actually has made quite a number of minor errors. His previous 3 years were better imo. However, there's no way you'll convince me that Red Bull has been the overall fastest car. They had the best package for like the first five races, and after that it has mostly been a McLaren show. You could even make an argument that Ferrari has been a better car than Red Bull, but that's a tougher question to answer, quite equal between them. As for the "car is only built around Max"-argument, check Albon's interview about this very subject. Even Albon said that the car isn't designed to suit Max, he just squeezes more performance out of it than others. Your "every driver won with the fastest car"-argument is full of ignorance. We have had multiple champions who didn't have the fastest car on the grid when they won championships. You mentioned Senna and Prost as some of your examples, and guess what, Prost won in 1986 without the fastest car, and Senna did the same in 1991. And I know you won't like it when I say it, but Max already did it in 2021, and is going to do it again this year.

[@WhatHistoryShorts]

The 2 point difference between Russell and Hamilton is misleading. Spa, alone, caused a 32 point swing in Lewis's favour after Russell's DSQ. Russell is on it, but he makes far too many mistakes. Hamilton just hasn't been on it since 2022.

[@jockdee2442]

If Ferrari can give Lewis a competitive and reliable and the FIA don't start to manipulate results and penalties that are detrimental towards Lewis h3 will revel in the challenge and show verstappen and Co what a real champion can do and how to behave.

[@GameOver-nm2us]

"How we know? Because I asked him." Oh.

[@tylerensminger]

He'll have the biggest smile on his face when he sits in the new Ferrari for the first time

[@BianchiLuke87]

Mercedes never had a mid season peak. Other teams were throwing away opportunities. Hamilton now is like Federer 2018... We get glimpses of the super powers that used to be so run of the mill. But we know the best is long gone.

[@AvAIK]

Federer 2018 beat Nadal and Djokovic and in 2019 he was one point away from Wimbledon which he had won over Nadal in the semis?

[@pennstateguy55]

It is frustrating that it is basically impossible to compare drivers from different teams due to the different machinery. So much different than other sports

[@ThomasSWK]

Hamilton has not been driving the same car the last 3 races. He has been driving the new floor that Russell also crashed with in Austin. But he hasn’t used it since

[@BlagoP]

Disastrous year for Mercedes. Last year, Hamilton was consistently on the podium, never finished out of the points in the races that he finished, finished 3rd in the championship, and Mercedes finished second in the constructors. This year, he's fighting for scraps and Mercedes is fourth in the championship, the lowest they have been since 2012. Last year, by their own account, they were too conservative with the ride height of the car, it wasn't low enough. One could only wonder how they would've done this year if they had continued developing last years car. This year, Mercedes came out with a new transmission and rear suspension, which Aston Martin is also forced to use, and look at what happened, both teams fell down the order.

[@SVoltage1]

Awesome pictures in this video!

[@timquerengesser1561]

I’m a fan but motivation is everything for Lewis at this point in his career and watching it suffer suggests the Ferrari move may not be easy. He’s going up against the fastest driver over a lap. How will he maintain motivation there? Genuinely hope he can.

[@kongyiu]

Hamilton will have a nice surprise when his engineer asks him which of the 5 plans he wants.

[@brokentuskclan1795]

Mercedes are in their mid-90s Mclaren phase.

[@Amm17ar]

I wouldnt even be surprised if they stopped investing in the car recently. They cant move up to 3rd in the constructors and they cant move down to 5th.

[@Apricot_Lover-r2c]

The set up window for the Mercedes in the ground effect era seems so incredibly tiny.

[@DaegaIll]

Such a shame these heros get pushed aside the moment they arent "fast enough" anymore, these people should be shown respect like everyone else in the world would give them. One slight glimpse in the F1 world and you see how unhuman it actually is.

[@Real_Shawn]

This is why I stopped watching F1 moved to MotoGP

[@d.b.cooper1]

So miserable…yet only 2 points behind Russell? Can’t be that bad

[@phil6844]

Everyone has a shelf life and I think Toto has hit his. The team under him has tanked he should make room for younger talent at the TP position.

[@stayynfresh]

here after vegas.... hows that for shelf life? Super performance today granted Q3 (only) wasnt great. shelf life my ass

[@Thalanir7]

The drivers standings are not even a fair reflection of how well he is being beaten by Russell. Russell has lost 25 pts in Belgium, heaps at Silverstone and bits and pieces throughout like in Mexico through his pitcrew not adjusting his front wing.

[@Alumnikiid]

Yea and let’s ignore the wins and podium when he had good fortune like Austria and Baku. But that wont suit your narrative I guess.

[@tina_suprema7494]

Russell lost 25 points in Spa because he knew he was “light” before the race - as he admitted - but still got into that car and raced it. Lewis had an outstanding performance and only after he had pitted for the 2nd time did Russell decide to go for a one stop, something Lewis had wanted to do and was denied by the team. The team didn’t even tell him he was now racing his teammate.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@Alumnikiidwhat good fortune? Both him and Lewis benefited equally it’s just that Russell did a much better job. If you want to argue that Lewis has been as unlucky as Russell then you’re just being delusional.

[@tbolt5883]

Basically it's "Hey, you chose to leave us...why should we help you anymore".

[@steve4880]

He should be forever grateful to Mercedes for giving him a dominate car for 8 straight years and winning him 6 WDC's.

[@SuperCapuka]

5:10 literally happened this weekend at Las Vegas qualifying, Hamilton led both qualifiers but on the last qualifying session he could only get 10th. 😅

[@Joshw93]

The team comes first. It goes Sport > Team > Driver. No ones bigger, no one should get special treatment. Mercedes are doing the right thing by focusing on next year. And its not as if Lewis has been perfect.....

[@syndicategaming1668]

I hope he gets up to speed in that Ferrari. The man deserves an honorable final stint in F1

[@guilhermefonseca1562]

I hope next year is a good fight between McLaren and Ferrari, but I ultimately hope Leclerc gets the better of it (or Norris). I'm tired of watching the same guys winning wdcs

[@sheikhraihan8550]

Same guys keep on winning cause they are simply better? Norris had his chance, he choked, we all saw. Not Max/Lewis's fault if the rest of the grid can't win consistently despite getting the fastest car.

[@chinmaybarole5078]

​@@sheikhraihan8550nobody is calling them lucky or blaming them for winning but as a fan I want more people to win like 7 race winners this year

[@ZubairAhmed-ib6ve]

@@sheikhraihan8550 And adding to the fact that Norris always loses position at the first turn and then piastri has to give the position back to lando when he overtakes him and at the end of the day, he claims that because of red flags and yellow flags that come out by luck

[@EntropicExergy]

Considering Mckaren will have to remove their flexing front wing as it will be banned (which it already is, but the FIA and manipulating things for an exciting finale is like bread and butter) and ferrari having a new clown for their circus, one with too much of an ego, not going to happen. Max is going to win it yet again, might as well sleep next year if you are that tired.

[@timmyb7734]

I don't expect Ferrari to be regular point scorers next year. 7th in the teams championship is probably the best they'll do.

[@pramodn9077]

So curious to understand your reasoning behind this! Do you have inside knowledge of Ferrari's next year car development? If so, we would appreciate you sharing your insider knowledge.

[@BenFlipsCars]

He's always been a motivation driven driver. Hopefully with the excitement of the move to Ferrari next year, he can bounce back toward his top form!

[@christoforospaphitis4090]

I was never a Hamilton fan but we must all admit that the man is a legend in the sport and he wasn't treated with the appropriate respect by the Mercedes team since Russel arrived. They weren't listening to him last year and this year his car has been an experimentation platform to figure out the car. All of that culminated to a dejected Lewis Hamilton who can't wait to leave soon enough. For example Carlos while he has been "sacked" they still provide him with all the support he needs in the team and try to maximize his results. Carlos isn't dejected at Ferrari but it leaves a bitter taste because he would love to stay there.

[@bigbronx]

Russell has outperformed Hamilton in 4 of the last 5 races. And in that single race (Mexico) where Hamilton ended ahead of Russell it was a 4th place versus a 5th, so it was pretty close. In those last 5 races, Russell was: 4th, 5th, 6th, 4th, 3rd Doesn't look like a very slow and inconsistent car to me. Sure, not the fastest, nor the second fastest but it is a pretty decent car. Hamilton is just not performing at the same level. Either because he doesn't care anymore, or because he just can't.

[@RN-zi4pk]

How many of Hamilton’s laps have you viewed to assert that? I’ve watched a large % of his race lap on boards the last 3 races (mainly cause I only just figured out I have access to them lol) and that car is a real mess. It’s actually painful to view, I’m not sure how I stuck it out. 😂

[@bigbronx]

@@RN-zi4pk well I guess Russell is an absolute genius then? Cause he has been finishing in the top 5 recently with a pretty similar car.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

And Russell had front wing damage in Mexico.

[@bigbronx]

it is now 5 of the last 6 races, with Russell first and Hamilton second in Vegas. Looks like Russell will end ahead of his teammate in the championship this season.

[@BilTheGalacticHero]

Wait... only parts actually used counts towards the cost cap? That can't be right.

[@stefansiggy]

Hamilton is ridiculously talented, but a problem has always been if he isn't happy or happy with the car, he is nowhere. Whatever Merc is making for a car, I can't see Toto or Merc be to sad about him leaving. He is simply unable to drive around a problematic car.

[@brendonbalow6488]

its another poor move by ferarri. this will be less fruitful than Vettel in Ferrari

[@7overland514]

I think it’s 50/50. Mercedes is struggling to consistently deliver a fast car and Lewis is struggling to stay motivated when he has one foot out of the door.

[@carlosvalero7638]

It's the setup guys😂

[@Mark-in4fr]

You’re misquoting Toto. He was talking about a hypothetical when specifically speaking of Lewis but the whole comment is about having to tell a driver it’s time to retire/move on from the team

[@pato10111]

I think Toto threw the knife in a little bit with that quote to be fair. He knew what he was doing with it. Lewis leaving to Ferrari hurt Toto and the team and that was his way of regaining some power in the situation.

[@gwcrispi]

Both Lewis and George have had a miserable season. They're still ahead of Sergio in a Red Bull. Let that sink in...

[@thomaswiker3471]

I don't think Alonso is happy with the Aston Martin cause I never heard him say my back's hurting so bad like Hamilton said about the Mercedes 22-23

[@whatleytom]

Doesn’t explain the massive upward trajectory toward two wins then essentially nothing.

[@Baz_0_4]

To be honest I have been really disappointed with Hamilton this season as a fan of his. His suggestions that the team is giving Russell better equipment is kind of disrespectful to Mercedes given how much the team has given him in my opinion.

[@lukew6725]

Same, I was never really a fan of his but I had massive respect for his achievements and all that respect has completely evaporated this season. It's one thing to start driving poorly because of age but he crossed a line by constantly throwing his team under the bus after they gave him the best car on the grid for so many years.

[@sundoris2657]

I can’t believe you call yourself a fan but didn’t know that Merc gave Lewis a worse car in recent races. Even Shovlin admitted that there were different updates and setups experimented on Lewis’ car. Why not just admit you’re a Merc fan if you want to defend Merc from disrespecting Lewis in the first place?

[@richardashton5015]

​@@sundoris2657get help mentally ill team lh...

[@nomoreheroes93]

Isn’t it obvious Hamilton is trying riskier and more varied setups than Russell in chase of the 8th? That explains the difference between them

[@jeffhufana2389]

Mercedes is Mediocre when they are limited to budget 🤣🤣🤣

[@mahadevovnl]

When I worked at Fortune 50 companies, the software engineers who would be on their way out would no longer be involved with important meetings, would not get important projects, and would not be in the loop of the newest products. How likely is it that Mercedes is keeping upgrades from Lewis? And keeping him outside of meetings? Not sharing technical details nearly as much? Because he's the one who can take that information with him to Ferrari. I think Lewis is unhappy because Mercedes is sidelining him.

[@TheBrickChannel-j9k]

Good point.

[@mrgalaxy396]

What does he expect? He's the one that decided to leave the team and leave them in the dust when they are underperforming. This is a natural reaction to that, we're preparing for a season where you will be driving for the competition, of course he's gonna be left out of the loop for the stuff important to next season.

[@lassekristoffersen5906]

He is on the down. Needs excuses. Not the car. Him.

[@ottosilvanus9149]

Hamilton wants to leave Merc because they don't listen to him about what the needs, yet he believes Ferrari will listen to him is gonna an interesting stint for him. I mean he doesnt have the trifecta schumacher had when he went to ferrari Fred is the only 1 who can back him up ,he needs an engineer too to make the trifecta.

[@Murphs37]

It was publicly stated that the car was changed this year based on his feedback from 2023 (cockpit position, car philosophy, suspension etc) The team did what he asked. It is a mix of them not fully understanding it and Lewis' driving style not always gelling with this gen of car.

[@Don-Royall]

​@@Murphs37nope he wanted that cockpit to be 20mm back. They only took ot 10mm backward, you wanna know why he said that, he had being saying do since 2022. He said at the beginning of the 2022 season, just copy Redbull, the Redbull cockpit is 20mm backwards than the Mercedes.

[@KAMiKAZOW]

@@Don-Royall > nope he wanted that cockpit to be 20mm back. > They only took ot 10mm backward You don't know how much 10 millimeters are.

[@93ryan5]

Is there any chance Bono goes with Lewis? And does Lewis have any say in who his engineer is, or is it up to Ferrari.

[@theGoogol]

Lewis has always had a championship winning car until 2022. If you want his loyalty and for him to call you family, you have to give him a car he can drive. If you can only provide a fast F1 car and a tens of millions of dollars, you'll have to rely on a 2nd driver with skills.

[@assemblyerror2822]

If Ferrari does not make a suited for Hamilton or the car is excatly good, and he makes similar comments to this year, there’s going to be tensions. After all he’s there for Ferrari, and that comes first in that team before personal glory.

[@justmuoki]

Sucks to see Valter-I mean, Hamilton’s last season go down (literally!) like this

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

You know, I'm only casually following Formula 1 for just a few months now and every time I saw Lewis speak after the races he just came off so depressed and just pessimistic even, with "miserable" being the right word here. - I mean, of what I'd seen of him before it's quite a contrast, even if he's just a rather quiet and calm person by nature. He just came off so mopey and almost like he wanted to be there less than even Lance Stroll. It just really bummed me out, to the point that I was thinking maybe something is going on in his personal life. And it's not really of our business, but my emphatic person went to that idea. Let's just say, if I knew/saw him personally I would seriously ask if he's alright (regardless of his wealthy lifestyle). That kind of thing. - But anyway, let's bet he's fine personally and he's just really not happy career-wise currently, like just out of it and not in his element. I think he's just waiting it out so he can move to Ferrari and start fresh. - Let's see if that will also be actually refreshing, because I'm done with seeing him mopey. At least Lance Stroll's bluntness/carelessness is funny. Sad Lewis is not.

[@ebutuoyYT]

When Lewis gets to Ferrari, he will soon remember the dubious joy of having a fast teammate, unlike his battle with Alonso, Hamilton is now well past his peak, Leclerc will smoke him.

[@PortoFellazTV]

are you that rtrd??? or just white

[@aquila121]

I'm not fully convinced Lewis is as washed as I think you've implied--all drivers are going to shine best when the car's traits suit their style, and struggle if it doesn't (much as I dislike him, Verstappen seems least affected by this difficulty). Alonso was wildly unhappy when he was alongside Norris at McLaren, and his performance reflected that. When Aston mimiced Red Bull at the start of 2023, he excelled. Now, the car design seems lost, and Fernando is middling back near (or behind) Stroll some weekends. I'm interested to see if the car Ferrari builds for next season will be to his liking, and hope for an energized, respectful matchup against LeClerc. Yes, Sainz already offered that, and doesn't deserve being relegated to Williams, but he understands this is how the sport goes, sometimes. I hope that everyone on the grid can showcase the best of their talent, especially the new drivers. I think we can all agree to ditch Lance Stroll, though.

[@aquila121]

Re-reading your comment, I think I understand better--you're saying that last time Hamilton was matched with a world-class capable teammate in Alonso, Lewis was at his peak. That's a valid consideration. Sorry that I misunderstood.

[@07Corcaigh]

Queue talk of Ferrari sabotaging him next year🙄

[@saqib7965]

​@@07CorcaighMercedes have sabotaged Lewis it's unfortunate

[@autotalon]

*one of the drivers is performing better There, fixed that for you Lewis.

[@styleemusic]

Bruh just ready to move on his highlight this season was the Senna lap. I hope he gets one more with Ferrari.

[@askeladden450]

No matter what George does, he will never get the credit he deserves due to the constant excuses for Lewis.

[@92joehal]

Yes. Fact is, Russell is driving circles around Hamilton right now.

[@kesh_r]

Exactly

[@devangjat3166]

Couldn't agree more.

[@IAmPdawg]

Bingo.

[@nestorlarez336]

However, next season Russel wiil be free of "excuses".... We will see what happen.

[@jkitchens71]

But how much does this go to who the #1 driver is? Is the current car tailored more toward Russell? Is the Red Bull tailored toward Max? So would this be the same situation in the prior era where Hamilton was #1 and Bottas was #2...can you expect the same performance from both drivers?

[@matz4k]

F1 is an engineering sport. I would argue that 85% or more of the performance is decided by the car. So after nearly a decade of absolutely dominating cars, which mercedes has had at the time, they did not manage to build another world dominating car under new regulations. I am sure the engineers hate to see it more then anybody else. So if a driver turns around and starts literally hating on a car in public, they should be aware that their driving skills barely matter in the grand scheme of things. You literally get to enjoy the work of thousands to make history and become insanely rich. Feedback is very important, but you do not need to justify your results by publicly criticizing the work of your collegues.

[@isaacm2374]

Toto Wolff the guy who owns a third of the team also calls it a shitbox and awful car. So it's not just the drivers

[@RidwanNurzeha]

The performance gap between cars is bigger than the gap between drivers. That’s why car development much important than drivers. Look at Hamilton (and now Max), both have difficulty when the car fell out in performance

[@RickAnderson19]

It's a man-machine relationship. Mercedes forgot that when they designed a car to satisfy the engineers at the exclusion of the driver. Also, the salary cap did lazy Mercedes in, which still hurts them. They can’t spend gobs of money to correct their mistakes anymore. In five years, Merc will sell the team.

[@roo1314]

Yup. There are drivers out there that could be winning championships if they were in the right car, e.g. the Mercedes of yore, the Red Bulls and McClarens of today.

[@EntropicExergy]

@@RidwanNurzeha Since Max is still winning it, no need to look at Max. Hamilton in 21 is the better example, lost it to Max in what was ultimately the better car.

[@harry4454]

5:22 it really wouldn’t be bizarre. Nothing to gain in front or behind in constructors. They gain with sponsors and the higher ups, toto fucked up losing Hamilton and they need it to look like Russel is the one to lead the way and can beat Hamilton

[@harrywalterspiano]

Always a good day when you post chain 👇

[@mrdenson3101]

All Hamilton’s haters are just pathetic little girls. By next year the man would have driven for the greatest 3 teams in F1 history: Maclaren, Mercedesand Ferrari. He has 7 WDCs and has broken many records. The Ferrari deal is a tickbox exercise and with top up his pension. The sport has been lucky to have him

[@Ratkwad]

This was all his own doing. Turfing a talented driver out of a Ferrari because you are Lewis H....gets what he deserves right now.

[@jeremy144713]

Half those wins were just pure luck 😂 if it wasn’t for McLaren and redbull fighting, Mercedes would of less points

[@Real_Shawn]

PATHEIC BY THAT LOGIC RUSSELLS WIN IN AUSTRIA WAS LUCK TOO

[@jeremy144713]

@ it was 😂 literally luck and circumstances from the better team knocking each other out

[@Real_Shawn]

@@jeremy144713 Cry harder

[@Jay-nk6dm]

0:20 it doesn’t make sense that his farewell decision was a good one if they returned to winning ways

[@sleepy_dobe]

I'll probably never get over the disappointment of Ferrari dropping Carlos Sainz in favour of Lewis Hamilton. One is seemingly on a downward trajectory in terms of driving performance while the other is arguably reaching his peak. Just because John Elkann is a long-time admirer of Lewis Hamilton and wants to see him in the red suit of a Ferrari. Really dumb move. I hope I'll be proven wrong and Lewis will show the same kind of resurgence and fire as Alonso did once next season gets started. Otherwise, Leclerc will have to improved heaps psychologically if Ferrari wants to compete for the constructor's title.

[@mrgalaxy396]

"Sainz is reaching his peak" The man's 30 and has been in the sport for 10 years now. This IS his peak. Don't get me wrong, Sainz is a very good driver, but this is the highest he can perform - a few stellar weekends and then a bunch of average weekends for the rest of the season. Signing Lewis was a brilliant move from a commercial standpoint and even sporting wise he'll either be a proper WDC contender or a good wingman for Leclerc. Sainz has been neither and quite frankly Mercedes and RBR passing him up when he became a free agent was damning, especially Mercedes who'd rather gamble on a barely legal kid. That's how this sport is at the top, you're either the fastest or you play the number 2 game, there's no room for number 1.5 drivers when there's better options out there. He got 4 years at the Scuderia, several podiums, poles and 3 wins in red. That's a better career than most of the drivers in F1 history. Sure it sucks to be dropped, but this was always as good as it was gonna get for him. And if we're talking about titles, we all know how the first half of 2022 went.

[@josephnulley6808]

Interesting Report ...... Hope he can do better with Ferrari

[@richardashton5015]

He won't

[@vinsanje]

2008 - it's the driver 2009-2013 - it's the car. Anyone can win in that car 2014-2020 - it's the all important component i.e driver 2022 - 2024 - it's the car look how dominant they are

[@paperplane-db8qf]

You forgot 2016. It’s sabotage - a German team favoring a German driver.

[@kings_chronicle592]

Anyone that thinnks hamilton is just losing pace has nothing to do.if he did would he have won in Britain?even russel complains of the car.its non consistent and lewis is a driver that likes of be confident in his car if hes not he wont shine.

[@tsholts5173]

So all I'm hearing is that all the Hamilton fans saying it wasn't the car all these years are in shambles

[@stuartorr8192]

Running away

[@Arsenic71]

Hamilton fans pre-2021: It's not the car. Hamilton fans post-2021: It's the car. Or even more ridiculous and pathetic: Merc are SABOTAGING Hamilton.

[@Pablo-g6z]

They are pathetic and funny at the same time

[@paperplane-db8qf]

They claimed Mercedes were sabotaging Hamilton in 2016. The rumors have resurfaced 😂

[@jinxed1984]

Sound like Lewis car was sabotaged. You said it yourself. Mercedes struggled finding parts but his teammate car runs fine

[@ZubairAhmed-ib6ve]

Despite being a verstappen fan. I feel bad for hamilton because of how he's being treated at mercedes. And the fact that they support rusell so much, i hope he find's his way back as an actual contender.

[@softlikesilk]

Its telling to me that Hamilton's waning years (In F1 driver career terms) was as understated as it was in this video and in general in amongst the general public. Hamilton's Ferrari move to me signals the end of his career. 2 more seasons and I think he will retire. Plus, Ferrari are not the legendary team they once were.

[@vaxan5126]

Brother Russell is out performing you every week

[@TheTomo2468]

Very vague comments.. Lewis came third last year.. and George is running a different spec. These ‘F1 Pundit’s’ certainly have questionable points of view.

[@verynormalman]

F1 is broken. The budgets are too small. Cars are designed, but they never seem to understand them. Wind tunnel and modelling dominate, but aren't accurately reflecting true track performance. It's like watching an artist paint a picture, wearing a blindfold. It's pointless and ludicrous.

[@lammie001]

Im tired of the excuses. At least Russell gets on with it

[@jesper2129]

He has to as he is staying at merc.

[@Hazzastar]

Hamilton was the highest non-red bull in the championship last year.

[@Conradcockhard]

Russell is useless despite having the car and engineering meeting geared towards him next season. Lets see how much he outperforms Lewis next season

[@ThesocialmuteHD]

@@Hazzastarwhat about 22 and 24?

[@soundscape26]

Yes, Russell has 2 more points and 1 win less than Hamilton. Heaps of difference.

[@arrete9276]

I just dont think the cars of this era are suited to Hamilton's style or enjoyable for him to drive. Many problems come from that alone.

[@MoGumbo_]

When Hamilton wins = him When Hamilton loses = car bad

[@joshd171294]

Tbh this is the only year where he’s really struggled. In 2022 he only finished behind Russell on merit in 5 of those races and 2023 he was extremely dominant in the race

[@kieronmckay4276]

This series of cars have been an absolute failure for F1 and everything that was promised by them was just bullshit marketing lies.

[@nonamejustbecause-b9k]

After this much time and the things you have seen you actually are questioning Lewis' ability..IT IS NOT HIS DRIVING ABILITY>>>IT IS TEAM POLITICS!!!

[@rigoric]

Darth Toto: "Focus, George! Focus"

[@lukew6725]

So sick of hearing him whine about the car when George is cooking him most weekends.

[@DamoBury-v8d]

Lewis has never really had bad car like George had.