“By the time Mclaren got their first win since Hamilton left, Hamilton was already a seven-time world champion.” That really puts into perspective how much of a master stroke Hamilton’s move was.
@flasbaaa Жыл бұрын
Yes, but we have to be honest a put some facts into this. First and the most important. Rules changes at 2014. Mercedes knews very much earlier how new engines will be looks like then other teams. Also influence of Martin Whitmarsh and departure of Ronn had big role of McLaren fall and we cannot forget very poor years with Honda power. So yeah, in those years it does not looked like very smart move. Even in his first season with Mercedes in 2013, he won only one race. His achievement with Mercedes are stunning and he deserve all of respect, but this decision could been also very bad as it shows up as very very good.
@racingbecky4155 Жыл бұрын
And also puts a point in how deep the Shit McLaren is into right now. And has been since 2013-
@jamesantill5065 Жыл бұрын
@@flasbaaa So how exactly did Merc know about the engine before the others? The engine design is agreed by a committee that includes the usual 3/4 plus attended by Porsche and I believe some US manufacturers too. Im fact the whole change to 'road relevant' engines was prompted by Red Bull's supplier Renault with a threat to leave without a change! Merc *may* have got on with the new design sooner than Renault but that was down to Renault's incompetence rather than Merc having so mythical advantage.
@Jeansie13 Жыл бұрын
There wasn't a single person back in 2012 who thought this move was a good idea. Masterstroke in hindsight.
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but with the benefit of hindsight, everyone and their dog now claims they knew it would be a successful move. 😂
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was quite the shock back then.
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had the best car last year and couldnt beat Max….lolololol
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@hectorshouse7348 Mercedes and Red Bull were even last year, but what does that even have to do with this discussion?
@harsharip Жыл бұрын
@@Euclides287 dude 😎😎🆒🆒🆒😎 Lulu's are like "Yeah 2012, i knew Sir Lewis Hamilton will win with Mercs" Same goes to Riccardo as well , people were considered McLaren move as Lulu's merc move never turned out good for them
@siraajdin2591 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how successful this move has turned out to be. I remember my dad raging at the time saying he’s chosen the money over success.
@Felyxx Жыл бұрын
It was funny because he'd been on Top Gear and even Clarkson said about the move "Isn't it like moving from Manchester United to West Ham?" Think he is eating his words right now.
@hugonubario Жыл бұрын
I still remember reading in sunday newspaper that he was leaving mclaren I told myself he will ruin his career Even the Kaiser failed to perform good enough He proved us wrong
@pn5984 Жыл бұрын
At first, it seemed like an odd move, but people seem to forget that they weren't rubbish in 2013 at all, finishing in second in the constructor's. What a move this turned out to be. Lewis and Mercedes have built such a symbiosis that it's hard to mention one without mentioning the other.
@Arif-oc9uu Жыл бұрын
@user-tt3yj4lt4u I guess it's looks like now the same for Red Bull and Max. FIA has replaced Merc with RB in future regulations.
@adam346 Жыл бұрын
@A Z ditto with RB and Max's win in 2020, they deliberately crippled the Mercs by cutting out the floor, fully knowing it would hurt Mercs/Aston more than any other high-rake car.
@SamuelHiti Жыл бұрын
Knowing this now. That picture of him winning his title and the Honda on fire gives it so much more meaning.
@apc9681 Жыл бұрын
Villeneuve trying to comeback is the funniest thing in this video, what goes through that guys head
@benjimc1 Жыл бұрын
Explains a lot tbh
@mistertheking Жыл бұрын
never hurts to try, honestly.
@rolex2tone Жыл бұрын
Plus he's the closest person to the triple crown in recent history missed out by getting 2nd in LeMans
@zzgaming29 Жыл бұрын
“You have moved from McLaren to Mercedes, is that not a bit like moving from Manchester United to West Ham” - Jeremy Clarkson 2013
@vincentcollins1017 Жыл бұрын
you have moved from McLaren to Mercedes , isnt that like moving from Manchester united to Westham
@cp3190 Жыл бұрын
He moved from Mclaren-Mercedes to Mercedes. Mercedes controlled the engine supply from when they came into f1.
@sv_racing1075 Жыл бұрын
@@cp3190 it’s a TopGear reference😉
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
@@cp3190 It's not that straightforward. Ricciardo tried a similar move when he left Red Bull for Renault and failed. Engine suppliers are not always better than their costumer teams.
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
@@Euclides287 Renault don’t have Newey, silly move by Ricci. Engines were equal but that was it.
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had the best car last year and couldnt beat Max….lolololol
@isaacm2374 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton F1 story and journey feels like a Hollywood movie. His rise so rapid and his success was so immediate that he surpassed the high expectations everyone had for him.
@robertvanzant2653 Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s the benefits of having a second lap advantage with the best car for eight years! Look at him now very very average
@TheNotoriousB.E.N. Жыл бұрын
@Crispin Mcgahan Bell I mean he wasn’t “much older” than most rookies, he was 21 or 22 only a few years difference to a rookie today
@TheNotoriousB.E.N. Жыл бұрын
@Crispin Mcgahan Bell oh yeah but drivers like max and even lance are quite rare exceptions, joining the grid in your early twenties is quite normal
@dmaharry7976 Жыл бұрын
@@robertvanzant2653 well put Robert. He was smashed by his rivals and teammates since day 1 !! Even though he had a faster car than them.
@MJisAGlorifiedDemarDerozen Жыл бұрын
@@robertvanzant2653 🤡🤡
@Stefan-qy4ro Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lauda was still around, whether he would of been able to work his magic on Leclerc after Hamilton retires and get him for Merc
@aimanfitri0iv Жыл бұрын
it could have been but unfortunately not going to happen because he passed away three years ago in 2019
@slainehalouze7775 Жыл бұрын
Actually he might have noticed Leclerc before his death, as Toto said Mercedes would be happy to sign Leclerc after his Ferrari contract
@Hydraav2 Жыл бұрын
Highly doubt that ever being an option for Charles. George will already be well established at Mercedes by then, he won’t want to go there and squabble over who gets to be the #1 driver.
@ganeshiyer3797 Жыл бұрын
Don’t need lauda for that Ferrari will do it!
@UnfeelingMonster Жыл бұрын
I think Lando is a more appealing merc target tbh. Fits the brand better
@PH-jv4ik Жыл бұрын
I feel like Lewis to Mercedes probably changed the careers of quite a few drivers probably one of the mosy influential moves in the last decade
@silvar2912 Жыл бұрын
yeah imagine Alonso in at Mercedes, he'd be lethal
@PH-jv4ik Жыл бұрын
@@silvar2912 He'd probably have had Hamiltons records
@zakr1187 Жыл бұрын
@@PH-jv4ik no chance
@PH-jv4ik Жыл бұрын
@@zakr1187?
@beanlentil Жыл бұрын
@@PH-jv4ik Vettel would still be winning titles since Rosberg and Alonso relations could fall apart faster than Hamilton-Rosberg or Hamilton-Alonso relations
@ShineStreet Жыл бұрын
this is indeed one of the most crucial partnerships in f1, hamilton became synonymous with mercedes and mercedes became synonymous with hamilton.
@sayharris1361 Жыл бұрын
God bless Nikki Lauda for convincing Lewis to signing with Mercedes.
@ThrottleBody Жыл бұрын
The best drivers end up in the best cars. Choosing your path wisely is such a key part of an F1 drivers’s success. Look at Lewis and look at Fernando.
@antoniopaveskovic1990 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, look at Alonsos move at Bahrain. Lmao what are you saying you twat, Alonso is miles better than Hamilton lol.
@19megamustaine85 Жыл бұрын
@@antoniopaveskovic1990 Alonso has a better car now since over a decade !where was he in the 2010s ?
@SahilM18 Жыл бұрын
Its funny how people claim Lewis only drove the best cars to the championship (as the comments here already show), but easily forget how laughable this move was at the time.
@Boomw17 Жыл бұрын
The most iconic driver move in retrospective in the history of the sport. Many will try and replicate lewis and Merc success and many will come short.
@schumifan78 Жыл бұрын
It was only Mercedes success really, as they were going to win every title from 2014-2020 with, or without Lulu, their engine was just so dominant a monkey could have won in those cars.
@thomassievers3362 Жыл бұрын
Schumacher making Ferrari superior again with his team was the greatest era in the sport, Lewis is good, but Schumacher joined a team who had no perspective and turned it around, at Mercedes it was Schumacher and Rosberg who did the legwork, Lewis just capitalized, so no, He ain’t the goat, and never will be
@rjharikumar65556 ай бұрын
@@thomassievers3362- Just of curiosity, what exactly is your criteria for a driver to be regarded as a GOAT?
@Willbrse Жыл бұрын
One history where the bet worked: Hamilton. One where it didn't: Ricciardo. 😬
@Nondas8552 Жыл бұрын
The difference is that mercedes is run by germans and renault is run by the french
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@Nondas8552 I think he's referring to McLaren not Renault.
@beanlentil Жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 Ricciardo didn't trust Renault back in 2019, which was way too naive of him but in hindsight it could've been worse considering Rossi coming in could still screw up Ricciardo's career (still unlikely) in an alternate timeline, Ocon signs for McLaren instead of Renault (I'd lowkey like that ngl)
@rpols22 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video. The detail in the explanation of the Hamilton/Mercedes deal was second to none. IMO, this is the best F1 channel.
@Wiggy321 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the news dropped about the move to MB. I was like, he's crazy for making such a move, especially coming in to replace Michael.
@550LMS Жыл бұрын
Ron Dennis also offered a salary reduction initially. I do believe in the very end (last few days before the Merc announcement) he offered to match Merc's offer. Lauda told Lewis very plainly: Follow the money. Merc was Mclaren's biggest contributor, and with purchasing Brawn a few years before it and Brawn/Schumacher/Costa laying the foundations, they where going to go for titles in 2014. Factory support for Mclaren was only going to drop off more and more.
@beanlentil Жыл бұрын
Spygate was one of the catalyst imho, especially with the strain it put on Mercedes, McLaren, and Ron Dennis
@Jess-dg6wo Жыл бұрын
Me 2012 : Hamilton move to Merc announced : Wtf are u doing Me 2022 : Yep definitely knew that he going to succeed on Merc
@Lucas-zp6dx Жыл бұрын
The grid today would be a whole lot different if Hamilton hadn't moved to Mercedes.
@elaldo2382 Жыл бұрын
The 2006 Honda talks are somewhat of a surprise to me. I'm sure Rubens Barrichello and Jenson Button both had contracts in place for 2007 as Rubens was signed on a multi-year deal to get him away from Ferrari and Jenson famously argued away from Williams for Honda for 06 and beyond. I wonder who would have been turfed out?
@peterfighter Жыл бұрын
Barrichello was older and slower, so probably him.
@gregellis7493 Жыл бұрын
Minor detail i know but didn't Jenson want to Move to BMW Williams in 2005? The CRB (where have we heard that before - Piastri *cough cough) stated Button had a Concreate Contract with Honda. Glad it worked out like it did.
@elaldo2382 Жыл бұрын
@@gregellis7493 that was all sorted by the end of 2005. That's why these Hamilton talks are confusing me in 2006. Both Button and Barrichello would have had contracts for 2007.
@gregellis7493 Жыл бұрын
@@elaldo2382 I haven't seen the video yet. So Button wanted to Move to Williams in 2006? Is that why Honda moved for lewis that year? Lewis won his F2 championship in 06. So Williams would of had Button and Rosberg in 2006? Yes I've said 2006 a lot of times here lol
@elaldo2382 Жыл бұрын
@@gregellis7493 the video is showing evidence that Hamilton was talking to Honda in 2006 about a race seat for 2007 to put pressure on Mclaren who were taking too long to decide if they'd promote him alongside Alonso. If Honda had won out he would have been driving the Earth car in 2007. Difficult to imagine but with both Button and Barrichello having contracts for 2007, I can only imagine this would have ended up back in the CRB as well
@NicotineRosberg Жыл бұрын
U guys finding content is remarkable. I'm here for it
@dane458 Жыл бұрын
Most successful team and driver in F1 history. What a Legend! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@OSD_in_Depth Жыл бұрын
Not true.. Ferrari is way more successful then mercedes
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
@@OSD_in_Deptheh they haven't been competitive throughout a season since 07. And If it weren't for schumi magic they wouldn't have been challenging since the 70s
@ishshah8695 Жыл бұрын
@@harry4454 and if it wasn't for Hamilton or Rosberg, Mercedes would still be nothing in F1. Drivers are a large part of the teams success. Ferrari are still the most successful team in F1 and that's fact, means fuck all if the success hasn't been recent xD
@Felyxx Жыл бұрын
@G0alz not "way more" but indeed, ferrari has more titles and more wins. As it stands though, I am not sure that will be the case in 10 years.
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
@@ishshah8695 oh for sure drivers are a huge part and I think ferrari are the most iconic team they are the most successful for titles but I think to win 8 titles in a row is just utterly insane and I would assume Merc in the next 5-10 years would have outpassed ferrari
@hendriktonisson2915 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Mercedes had hired Paul di Resta instead of Lewis Hamilton in 2013.
@karl8805 Жыл бұрын
Exactly paul di resta would have 5 or 6 wdc
@gamingnoah9807 Жыл бұрын
@@karl8805 yeah right
@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 Жыл бұрын
@@karl8805 Paul di Resta is an average driver, even in DTM and WEC. Nico Rosberg would have won 4 titles, Vettel 6 titles and Verstappen would have been chamipion one year earlier in 2020.
@karl8805 Жыл бұрын
@@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 so was bottas, yet he had 0 race wins, 0 fastest laps, never beat ham, never got pole, never got a podium, then merc happened and it made him number 2 driver many times....
@Lamlerongy Жыл бұрын
@@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 bottas got 7 more points that season
@9112001234 Жыл бұрын
Really love you guys and great work, but please stop ending your videos abruptly
@chicobicalho5621 Жыл бұрын
Lauda was the man, and Mercedes management knew it. And Hamilton knows it. Lauda the legend, lives forever.
@redbadger2656 Жыл бұрын
I can be honest, I did think hamilton was making a mistake moving to Merc in 2013... but damn how wrong I was!
@LuciferMorningstarDanny Жыл бұрын
Nice informative video to arrive home from work to. Cheers guys , nice work.
@fischerwiesen Жыл бұрын
No mentioning of how Lauda not only was the mastermind behind bring Lewis to Merc and making them the force to beat, but also being the mastermind behind bring Michael Schumacher to Ferrari, which lead to them being the force on the grid… and funny to think that Toto almost was the one telling Merc not to sign LH
@superxavxii421 Жыл бұрын
Probably the best decision of all time ngl.
@stevenschuster Жыл бұрын
Poor J. Villeneuve. That reminds me, a great video would be who's had the biggest drop off in pace/form in F1 history? Villeneuve ? Riccardo? Any others?
@danielthedoc Жыл бұрын
The best part of this video is that it's not powered by how
@aimanfitri0iv Жыл бұрын
it's going to be the biggest messed up for the past several decades
@chamindujanith6337 Жыл бұрын
You mean the guy who beat 7-time WDC Michael Schumacher in equal machinery? Nothing wrong with him winning 7 titles
@aimanfitri0iv Жыл бұрын
@@chamindujanith6337 no there is nothing wrong with that one
@AlonsoRules Жыл бұрын
I thought he was throwing his career away chasing money. In the 10 years since, McLaren have one win.
@Javadamutt Жыл бұрын
If Nikki Lauda walked up and told me the deal was done...even if I hadn't heard of said deal or signed anything or didn't even want to, I would just take his word for it. Anything that man says he had put his mind to and it will happen. You're better just accepting that.
@The666opal111 Жыл бұрын
TRUU LULW
@minardi028 Жыл бұрын
one got the feeling that not much would have changed for Mercedes though. Still the same championship wins just with different drivers. This signing was the turning point for Lewis Hamilton, not for Mercedes.
@muntublackson4757 Жыл бұрын
no. thatsabsolute bs. without lewis, ferrari and seb would have had 2-3 chips, why are we acting like lewis didnt/woesnt make the difference between '17 '18 and '19
@minardi028 Жыл бұрын
@@muntublackson4757 your opinion man, all good. For me its a no. Mercedes outperform Ferrari in the car developement on the second part of the seasons you are mentioning and this is the reason they got the championship.
@xamsedalabay6809 Жыл бұрын
If any driver could do it why pay Hamilton 30 million when 95 percent of the drivers are cheaper.
@minardi028 Жыл бұрын
@@xamsedalabay6809 look dude i dont want to argue. If you think that Mercedes whould be championship-less without Hamilton thats fine with me. I follow F1 25 years now and I have an opinion of my own. Geaorge Russell jumped in that Mercedes for a week, in an ill fitting cockpit and practicaly got the win. You can be a Hamilton fan but you cant deny the reality. Mercedes was the car to be in in the hybrid era.
@joshuabanda6204 Жыл бұрын
0:12 You said six world championships ...bro it's seven 😏🔥
@ducedevlstear2471 Жыл бұрын
Well, but it's still 7 together with Nico's.
@ducedevlstear2471 Жыл бұрын
@norman-m [KANDAGAIGO] nah, you got that correct 👍🏻 That's what they really meant. I only brought another fact to complete the picture 🎩
@rytis6038 Жыл бұрын
And that is what it means to make the right decisions at the right time. I honestly think that if not for akward timings Alonso could have been in Hamiltons shoes. And the live example for that is Ricciardo.. Strange how life works
@leonmalaga16 Жыл бұрын
Alonso´s issue isnt timing, it´s burning bridges. He can´t get a seat in any of the top 3 teams because of his actions or words, not his driving ability
@ryanjonathanmartin393311 ай бұрын
@leonf1fan1998 Remember what happened in Hungary 2007 😗? That's why Mercedes don't want Alonso. In fact Norbert Haug wanted to fire him on the spot, but Ron Dennis negotiated with Norbert and he eventually relented. Alonso and Ron terminated Alonso's McLaren contract at the end of '07.
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes were worse than *Lotus,* and *McLaren* was the 2nd best team in F1 when Hamilton decided to leave for a *midfield team* at end of 2012. That's why everyone, including his *world champion teammate* and team principal came out and said he was making a career suicide move.
@motorsportfan3202 Жыл бұрын
Stop being such a fanboy, Mercedes and Ross brawn were always going to improve, you make it out to be like it was a minardi, and that Mercedes weren’t pouring their millions in. No I’m sorry, I was incorrect with the amount, billions.
@rodracer4567 Жыл бұрын
@@motorsportfan3202 IIRC the funding from Daimler only makes up a fraction of the Mercedes F1 team's budget. And while Mercedes did look like they were gonna improve back then, I highly doubt anyone predicted the "8 straight years of dominance" kind of success.
@LongHaulGamingHD1 Жыл бұрын
Even while viewing this with the optics during 2012 I find it surprising that Mercedes felt 30 million (around 40 million today) was a steep asking price. Hamilton was in the prime of his career, a former champion, proven race winner, marketable already at that stage, all while in unreliable and sometimes uncompetitive machinery. Since his debut he's never been within at least an earshott of the world title up the that point, just seems foolish to think of saving money in a sport that demands you to go all in to see the rewards.
@Fxrris Жыл бұрын
In summary. Hamilton is the glue
@randomturkyt Жыл бұрын
if hamilton joined honda he probably still couldve been able to be 7 time champ cuz of brawn gp and he would still be in mercedes
@fishsticks6668 Жыл бұрын
When Lauda wants you to sign a contract, you will sign that contract. Consent isn't necessary.
@Haseeb2k08 Жыл бұрын
To put in perspective in the last 3 race wins mclaren you have Daniel ricciardo,jenson button,lewis hamilton even though he left over a decade ago.
@atharvakate5165 Жыл бұрын
No matter what lewis does some People will keep hating on him
@adityanarain9428 Жыл бұрын
Yep sad part of F1. I love Seb but there's no doubt that Lewis is a contender for GOAT. I'm happy that Vettel managed to compete against a talent like Lewis even though it could've been very different if Vettel won one with Ferrari.
@atharvakate5165 Жыл бұрын
@@adityanarain9428 Bhai bata tune bhi Vettel ko dekha hein India ? Seb and Lewis have always been the best drivers for me
@Euclides287 Жыл бұрын
That comes with greatness. Senna was the most hated driver in F1 the year he tragically past away. Shumacher was the villian in most people's eyes by the time he retired for the first time in 2006. Then Vettel, then Hamilton and now Max is the target since he's the one winning without being challenged by anybody.
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had the best car last year and couldnt beat Max….lolololol
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
@norman-m [KANDAGAIGO] thank for the feedback 👍
@tiggie_96 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those moves that worked out perfectly with all moving parts. From Niki, Lewis, Toto, Michael Schumacher, etc. I doubt it would’ve been the same if you take out one person from the lineup
@dsistudios8446 Жыл бұрын
Backlash... Hamilton has been doubted from day 1.
@tuffmanchannel Жыл бұрын
Anyone making a move like that back in 2012 would have been considered crazy. Had Button, Vettel or Alonso made that move, the same feedback would have been given.
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had the best car last year and couldnt beat Max….lolololol
@tuffmanchannel Жыл бұрын
@@hectorshouse7348 how is this related to the original comment lmao
@dsistudios8446 Жыл бұрын
@@tuffmanchannel really? Nah not buying it.
@dsistudios8446 Жыл бұрын
@Crispin Mcgahan Bell the level of vitriol was beyond the norm.
@SHEEPeros Жыл бұрын
"Hands off mein wallet"' @4:13 is a proper lolfull moment xD
@whassupg89 Жыл бұрын
If Honda signed Hamilton, does alonso win the 07 and 08 champs for McLaren?
@isaacm2374 Жыл бұрын
Easily. Without Hamilton entrance into F1 especially with Mclaren, Alonso would have been a 4 time champion before 2010. It's clear Alonso still think about that to this day.
@peterfighter Жыл бұрын
Hamilton and Alonso were taking points from each other and Hamilton is the reason why Alonso left McLaren, so it's quite possible. Maybe 2010 as well.
@ducedevlstear2471 Жыл бұрын
@@peterfighter the "new golden boy of McLaren" title is the reason why Alonso left.
@Kieran_OPC Жыл бұрын
I'd absolutely have loved to see Lewis driving then 2021 mclaren, I think he would've won probably around 6 races that season at least if he was in the mcl35m
@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 Жыл бұрын
I remember Martin Brundle doubting any future sucess with Mercedes then.
@connorappleton1945 Жыл бұрын
I burst into laughter when Jacques Villeneuve got brought into the video 😆
@charliefoxtrott1048 Жыл бұрын
Some forget that Mercedes 2012 was a mere shadow of the Mercedes 2014 to 2021
@CX0909 Жыл бұрын
Four single events, not of his making, cost him four world titles. His losses alone would make for a legendary driver legacy. Had Mclaren pitted Lewis earlier at the ‘07 Chinese GP before his tires wore down to the white cords showing through and his car slid off the track and into a bizarre gravel trap, in the wet on pit entry…. Had his left front tire not delaminated, crashing him out from a 2nd place scoring position, at the end of the ‘10 Spanish GP (thanks to @Gaming for correcting me on this)…. Had his seemingly bullet proof Mercedes engine not blown up from the lead in ’16 near the end of the Malaysian GP…. Had Latifi not crashed and or the stewards FOLLOWED PROTOCOL on race restart in ‘21 at Abu Dhabi (Max was 12 seconds behind before the crash and was never going to catch Lewis)…. He would be an 11 times WDC. Think about that…..
@user-ck7jv1hn8k Жыл бұрын
There are 4. His tire delaminated in Spain 2010. Had that not happened he would have won that year’s title as well.
@CX0909 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ck7jv1hn8k I think I had just wiped those later Mclaren years from memory as they were so frustrating. Kind of like Kimi’s time at Mac. Thanks for the correction!
@MENQN7 ай бұрын
That Lewis Hamilton signing was the most important thing Mercedes could of ever done as Hamilton was the real GOAT and not Schumacher who Hamilton replaced and that Hamilton was the best driver transfer in F1s History as he was the Real Deal and Lewis always means business on the track also is the most followed and famous driver and is very much loved.
@Amit_Kumar_Trivedi Жыл бұрын
Mercedes would have won the constructors and the drivers the same number of times even without LH. We are underestimating the role of machine when it comes to competitive racing between different cars. Put him in a Williams and he will not win. No doubt he is one of the best drivers but not signing it would not have affected Mercedes. it would have been bad for LH though just as wrong selections affected other top drivers of the era.
@Monstermatt001 Жыл бұрын
The car is a big part, but the formidable driver/team parings require a great driver working to develop the car with great engineers. Edit: They also require great management
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes made Hamilton, the car was so much faster initially that MB had to turn the engine down to keep FIA at bay. Throw in the illegal tire test in 2013 which helped them tremendously with dialing in the 2014 car, tokens and testing/development bans and you have MB domination. As for a driver developing a car those days are long gone as sensors, computers, etc. can tell an engineer how a car is behaving far more accurately than a driver can. It’s an engineering championship first and foremost now. Been following F1 since the mid 70s but F1has lost the plot the turbo hybrid era. Would love to see a return to the smaller simple v8s with simple front and rear wings, etc. simplify the car (thus reducing costs) and make the driver count more.
@hectorshouse7348 Жыл бұрын
Lewis had the best car last year and couldnt beat Max….lolololol
@Amit_Kumar_Trivedi Жыл бұрын
Explain to me that if Mercedes had signed Alonso, Vettel or Riccardo any other good driver, how would that have changed the outcome of Merc not winning the championships it won. And at no point I am saying LH is bad or incapable. Let is discuss a scenario where LH had joined Ferrari and Vettel had joined Mercedes. Would he have not succeeded to the same extent? Just for info, been watching F1 since 1997 season. Merceds was dominant for 5 seasons the way Ferrari was in 2001 to 2004
@carolinacraiggaming Жыл бұрын
3:55 Don’t do Toto like that 😂
@quigglyz Жыл бұрын
Messed up? LOL no. They would have been fine with nearly any driver. Their engineers are geniuses who created the greatest race car of all time. Give them the credit they deserve FFS
@obione51499 Жыл бұрын
It is currently… 3:52 am.
@codybutler1012 Жыл бұрын
Great piece of content. Keep it coming!
@LDTOK-zs8oz Жыл бұрын
The best career move in F1 history.
@birandkoray Жыл бұрын
Nico Hülkenberg disliked the video
@hg8843 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE NARRATE / ANNOUNCE THE SCENE CHANGES (for the listeners)
@gmfan09 Жыл бұрын
This story gives off serious Ricciardo/Renault vibes. I’m sure Danny looked back at this situation and saw how taking a huge risk can have huge payoffs. Just didn’t work out the same way it did for Hamilton.
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
If only Mclaren didn't mess up in China 2007
@doghat1619 Жыл бұрын
Hamilton drove into the gravel on his own. I don't see how that's Mclaren's fault.
@harry4454 Жыл бұрын
@@doghat1619 yes on tyres he had no business being on. He literally lost a title because mclaren kept him out until the car was on its canvas in wet conditions
@jonathankfouri3431 Жыл бұрын
Weird to think, a start at BAR/Honda would have made no difference on his championship tally... only maybe his win tally. Just don't think there would have been the same buzz around him
@teemeaux3830 Жыл бұрын
Lewis and lauda is why I rock with the team.
@Switll72 Жыл бұрын
Your headline is wrong should have read "How Hamilton nearly missed out on signing with Mercedes" Imagine they signed Vettel, Alonso or even retained Schumacher or maybe signed Rosberg sooner .... How different history would have been.
@lovelehstuff Жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson got this one so wrong 😂
@Felyxx Жыл бұрын
I remember him saying "Isn't it like going from Man Utd to West Ham?" If he'd have said Paris Saint Germain instead of West Ham' he would have basically gotten then analogy perfectly right. 🤣
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@Felyxx Man City to be even more accurate.
@Felyxx Жыл бұрын
@soundscape26 true, was thinking of Man City too but I think they were bought a few years earlier. PSG happened right around the time Hamilton moved.
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@Felyxx Yes, makes sense temporally... I was just keeping it within the Premier League.
@mafiousbj Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the move didn't happen...we would be talking about Rosberg as the GOAT of F1 and German drivers dominance being almost undisputed in the 21 st century. Amazing how one move can change so much, even the best drivers still need great teams to accomplish everything they do week after week. Hamilton could have suffered all the misfortunes at Mclaren an be labelled a fluke if he didn't move teams!
@kpslick Жыл бұрын
How they nearly messed up signing Hamilton? It would have made absolutely zero difference who was in the car.
@alexfrederick7862 Жыл бұрын
if my math is correct...Schumi paid 50 mill per year without performance > 30 mill for Lewis with real stats, how is Lewis costing Mercedes more? Makes no sense.
@F1Guy-Guy21 күн бұрын
That Hamilton has transformed F1 and has made it his own The Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton Show
@mrsoisauce9017 Жыл бұрын
Curious to see if Audi’s F1 story will be similar to Mercedes’s story, and if a switch to another team from a prodigy driver (maybe Max Verstappen, Charles Leclerc or Lando Norris) will change the fate of the entire team
@christopherpartridge640 Жыл бұрын
Could this be one for #BringBackV8s
@ducedevlstear2471 Жыл бұрын
How about bring back no limits on cylinder configuration ?
@ignatiusng1843 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Schumacher was always going to stop after 2012 and just nice, Hamilton was available
@titancheat Жыл бұрын
From what I understand the craziest part is it could have been hulkenberg at McLaren and then Mercedes instead of Lewis 🤯
@robh9577 Жыл бұрын
Put your self in the shoes of Lewis. The notoriously unreliable McLaren let him down every other week, the car itself was inconsistent/slow. Seb was in the middle of cleaning up every race day, there was no chance for him to win at McL. So Niki tells him about the upcoming rules changes and their ace in the hole (engine) and the fact that Mercedes would have a blank check for development and to a degree, his wages, its actually a no brainer. The only ones who were somewhat competitive were Ferrari, and obviously with Alonso there it was a hard NO. What else could he do but wait McL to build a good car, which still hasn't happened.
@richardlong6097 Жыл бұрын
It's not surprising he downplays anyone else's involvement, even a great like Lauda. Ultimately it was little more than dumb luck, taking a single title and year after year of failure and moving right before Merc built a car seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Mercs rise was as fast as it was out of the blue, nailing arguably the largest rule change in F1 history. Turning a 1 or possibly 2 title career guy into a run of dominance unrivaled.
@rynosraceroom66 Жыл бұрын
Damn ! That was good content .
@Batman22222 Жыл бұрын
Your next ' Mistake ' can change your life......Never forget that !
@DK-yj1ez Жыл бұрын
If Hamilton wasn't in Mercedes.. All it means is.... there will be another name as a 7 time world champion. 🙄
@random_username_thats_not_used Жыл бұрын
Probably Rosberg if he didn't retire in 2014
@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Жыл бұрын
@@random_username_thats_not_used He retire in 2016, mate.
@jj4429 Жыл бұрын
Should be an 8 time champ
@blakebarone1809 Жыл бұрын
Not to sound like a hater, but if Merc knew they’d have 5 seasons (14-16, 19-20) of uncontested victories and 2 seasons of contested wins (17-18), they probably just would have kept Schumacher with Nico. No way Schumi would have turned that down.
@lancelot_53 Жыл бұрын
Villeneuve looking for an F1 Return 🤣
@michaelsanders3395 Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about Hamilton's hairline success since moving to Mercedes? Just look at how patchy his hair is at 5:27
@kudason Жыл бұрын
So Hamilton ended up at BAR/Honda after all? Dodged them as they were about fall, joined them as they were now Merc on the rise.
@Dami_San Жыл бұрын
Great story telling guys.
@thegreatafrican3367 Жыл бұрын
Alonso furiously taking notes*
@justinwalpole8956 Жыл бұрын
Mclaren where only offering a salary cut whilst Hamilton was performing better than ever in 2012
@Gunar-ux5zy Жыл бұрын
Well if they had Messer up Rosberg would be 5 time Champion so Its Not that Crazy… he would have won 2014/2015/2016 with ease 2017/2018 seb 2019 & 2020 mercedes again. so Rosberg, if he would stay after 2016 in this scenario…
@1xRacer Жыл бұрын
He would of won 09 and been merc after anyway
@philwoodward5069 Жыл бұрын
If they hadn't signed Hamilton I still don't see why they wouldn't have won every championship between 2015 and 2019. Rosberg could have had as many championships as Vettel! As Frank Dernie noticed as a 12-year-old, the champion driver is generally the better of the two drivers who have the best car. As long as you've got at least one driver capable of winning the championship - which Mercedes already did even before they signed Hamilton - you're fine on the driver front. It's going to depend on the car.
@slicklace Жыл бұрын
Long may his success continue for as long as he chooses to stay in F1. We want to see good drivers stay in the sport and compete at a high level with the likes of Max and GR. I wonder what would’ve happened if Nico had stayed on would’ve been very interesting to watch.
@genobadea2738 Жыл бұрын
With the new engine rules and regulations, and how well Mercedes executed them compared to the rest of the field, i truly believe Mercedes would have done just fine without Louis, they had Nico, I'm sure he would have stuck around had Louis not come to Mercedes. The question at this point is, would have Louis Hamilton been as successful as he is without Mercedes???
@ax2643 Жыл бұрын
the lack of appreciation you show for a 7 time champion shows your lack of appreciation for motorsports.
@genobadea2738 Жыл бұрын
@@ax2643 i really appreciate what Mercedes was able to do with their engines for the past years, I'm sure Hamilton had his share at it, but what I'm questioning is, Hamilton's ability to win without the Mercedes advantage. I'm just asking a legitimate question.
@daarom3472 Жыл бұрын
wouldn't have mattered much really for Mercedes. Would've won 2014-2016 and 2019-2020 anyways. And that is assuming putting a tool next to Rosberg/Bottas. Could've also very well won 2017-2018 as Rosberg would've stayed on bad he been the team's main driver.
@slug.racing Жыл бұрын
You got it wrong.. signing Hamilton was the problem.. anyone could have won in that car ..
@UnKnown-es7fk Жыл бұрын
McLaren keep digging their own grave even until now, very typical move
@Omega-ky8ur Жыл бұрын
F1 2011-13 I always went to Merc and won them a title. So I did it first. No big deal