I own this exact rifle in .270 Win and am able to achieve sub moa groups with quality ammo. I imagine it's the cheaper rounds causing the bad grouping.
@REDNECKROOTS Жыл бұрын
I own a weatherby vanguard weatherguard bronze, same no2 profile barrel. You can't shoot more then 4 shots wo letting barrel cool. If you shoot it cold it will hold same hole accuracy until that 5th or 6th shot. It heats up fast but it's a hunting rifle not ment to shoot more then 1r2 shots. I can't be happier w mine
@nathanadams66333 жыл бұрын
Every person I have known to own Weatherby Vanguard rifles were sub moa shooters easily. This video really shocked me. I regularly purchase the ammo used in this video. Both shoot sub moa in my 300 WSM, two Sako 300 WM, and Sako .270 Win. Shocked greatly on the results. Thanks for the video.
@martineasterman51703 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy didn't let the barrel cool down for the second group in hit weather...also he let the rifle recoil massively upwards :(
@alexvendettaarms47863 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the weatherby vanguard dangerous game in 375h&h and it is a brilliant shooter. Groups sub moa at 100m every time and it’s great to carry out in the scrub, smooth action and very reliable I rate them.
@skylerhinman66003 жыл бұрын
Vanguard doesn't have a Dangerous game model you must be talking about the Mark V model lol but yes its a very reliable and smooth rifle
@crowpile46383 жыл бұрын
375 why? You hunt elephants?
@keithprinn7202 жыл бұрын
in that calibre must kick hard
@glennjohnston11703 жыл бұрын
Love ur reviews, I have a sako Bavarian in 270 and found all cheap ammo just as you did terrible, best performers where PPU and federal premium. Both shot 30mm groups @100 so started to load my own 130 sst and now 19mm 3 shot groups @100 and a whole world faster. No factory ammo i tested was worth the money.
@nothere95513 жыл бұрын
I have a Vanguard in 308W. Nice gun shoots sub MOA simple but effective. The trigger when I got it needed attention but the rest id all good.
@chickimac12 жыл бұрын
Weatherby vanguard makes the best bolt action rifle in its price range. Nothing else compares imo
@markstewart93053 жыл бұрын
Nice looking rifle but $1300 (presuming you mean AUS$) seems like a lot, even for the combo. In 2004 I bought a Weatherby "Weatherguard" (Vanguard w/ synthetic stock) chambered in 270Win; just the rifle - no scope, mounts or sling. It shot all factory ammo I tried to 1.5" groups, which is adequate hunting accuracy and quite consistent when you think about it. It grouped 130s and 150s the same and POI didn't vary much between the weights. I didn't have to make a scope adjustment to switch bullet weights. I didn't use the rifle a lot, I killed a few whitetails with it and took it to the range a dozen times, a total of probably 200 rounds. It was a fine, well made rifle and did the job well but it wasn't my only rifle. After 15 years I was bored with it and converted it to 270 Wby. Weatherby offered the Vanguard in 7mm ReM, 257 Wby and 300 Wby but to my knowledge never 270 Wby, one of its most versatile cartridges. I sent it to a benchrest machinist/gunsmith who rechambered the original barrel to 270 Wby and I purchased a magnum bolt body. The rifle came back MORE accurate than the original chambering; now it shoots 1/2" groups with factory ammo (Wby Select, not the premum stuff). I also used Talley 1-piece Aluminum mounts and mounted a Nikon ProStaff. Glad I held onto the old Vanguard. Ithought it a bit heavy for 270 Win but now the extra 8oz. goes well with the Magnum chambering. It's a whole new animal now.
@bradfoster6113 жыл бұрын
Winchester ammo hasn’t done inch group’s for a long time.
@WarezWally3 жыл бұрын
Its probably the most inconsistent commercial ammunition on the market, I'll take PPU over Winchester any day of the week
@theoxmountaingang25853 жыл бұрын
is ridiculously bad
@herby3753 жыл бұрын
I never buy Winchester ammo anymore, its gone downhill for years even .22 is no good.
@CircleBrewery3 жыл бұрын
Have two boxes 18 years old seems ok better than the new stuff
@oncall213 жыл бұрын
Thanks for calling it as it is Ozzie as always. Thanks for sharing!
@mandtgrant2 жыл бұрын
I have the vanguard backcountry in 270 (close to the same rifle) It averages 1.25 to 1.75 with Winchester 130 and 150s. Handloaded with 150 grain partitions and H4831sc it can shoot tiny groups. 3 shots at .24 and five shots at .375
@gascheck81513 жыл бұрын
Place a couple of sand bags on the foot rest of your shooting platform. It’s jumping all over the place. Please follow up with premium ammo. Thanks. Also check that the upper portion of the rest is secure these have a tendency to vibrate loose over time.
@1LonePuma Жыл бұрын
*FIRST THING IS, YOU CLEAN YOUR BARREL BEFORE THE SECOND 5.* *I RAN A SNAKE AFTER THE FIRST SHOT AND PROCEEDED WITH THE NEXT SHOT, DOING IT WITH EACH SHOT UNTIL A TOTAL OF 5 SHOTS WITH 5 CLEANINGS.* *P.S. ALL I EVER USED WAS 130 GR WITH REMINGTON AMMO; I DIDN'T FEEL I NEEDED TO SPEND THE BUCKS FOR THOSE OVER-EXPENSIVE ROUNDS!* *AT 100 YARDS, ALL MY SHOTS WERE TOUCHING EACH OTHER CONSISTENTLY WITH NO FLYERS.* *I DO ADMIT, I HAD A CUSTOM BARREL THE NEXT LEVEL ABOVE A SPORTER TO ELIMINATE ANY HARMONICS WITH A 26.5" LENGTH AND A 3 IN 1 TWIST LIKE A TRIPOD WHICH STABILIZES THE BULLET.* *(REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY) *IT'S A TACK DRIVER FOR SURE!!* *I WOULD RECOMMEND A 4 TO 14 LEUPOLD SCOPE WITH MICROMETER ADJUSTMENTS, YOU'LL BE GLAD!!* *QUALITY ALWAYS WINS OUT!!* 🤠👍
@gobangs11173 жыл бұрын
I have found that 270s are quite finnicky when it comes to tight groups. Federal and Winchester are 2nd rate ammo so no surprises with your results. To achieve better results you really do have to custom load, not ideal but that is the reality. Shit in shit out!
@BPzeropoint Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@IngramLIVE3 жыл бұрын
That spider though
@mrplow75173 жыл бұрын
I have a 14yo light weight Vanguard 30-06 that is a great shooter. Not sure what the triggers are like now but back then they were garbage and no way you could group, put in a Timney and it transformed the rifle. I think i paid $650au or so back then though...
@matm44223 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review on a mark v weatherby in one of the weatherby magnum calibres.
@hstath803 жыл бұрын
30-378 wby pls
@billythekid22813 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you should be calling this inaccurate until you have tried more ammunition. That’s a bit unfair.
@larrywhite37863 жыл бұрын
For the money it should be alot better
@nmelkhunter13 жыл бұрын
Plus you would have to test several rifles.
@artvanderlay77322 жыл бұрын
not to many rifles that don't shoot blue box well..
@Slayer-zy5kr3 жыл бұрын
I have a Vanguard in 6.5 Creed and plenty of rounds in it. Used several brands of ammo with Hornady working best 1/2 in or better all day at 100yds, under 1in at 200. Use premium ammo....
@kauaigold2 жыл бұрын
I have a howa1500 (same as weatherby vanguard) and it shoots sub moa all day under one condition, 168gr or heavier. It doesn’t like light weight rounds
@stevehardwick72859 ай бұрын
I have 2 Vanguards in 30-06 and they're both sub moa shooters consistently with Federal Fusion rounds.
@dennisowen37172 жыл бұрын
i gotta tell ya I shot my Vanguard 270 with factory ammo at Sub-MOA accuracy. I'm talking at least a 1/2 inch. You've got something going on there. Same with my Remington model 700LR 30-06 it shot .323 sub moa and my Winchester Model 70 270 Win shot .315 Sub Moa. All factory ammo.
@StarSwarm.2 жыл бұрын
Gee… colour me surprised that the Winchester ammo performed like that! Surprised it even landed on the target at all! 😂😂😂
@mauvc15292 жыл бұрын
I have this rifle and last year my barrel was hot af, not only after shooting but also hunting in the desert the sun was burning the barrel. I had to cover my rifle most of the time or carrying him through the shadows
@SilverBro96 Жыл бұрын
My Vanguard Sub MOA model, likes Federal fusion 150 the best. Not a cheap option but not the most expensive.
@jamesmooney5348 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Any updates with premium ammo?
@sandybarnett75023 жыл бұрын
Mine in 2506 was a poor shooter ,finally floated the barrel and can get some sub moa groups with 100 grain barnes
@benbryce27883 жыл бұрын
Have you considered your bench setup, you have a sling attached and the rifle is visibly bouncing straight up...
@johnw44163 жыл бұрын
Another group with the Winchester could have been worthwhile. The first two shots grouped nicely and perhaps the third shot was just a flyer?
@ozziereviews3 жыл бұрын
No mate unfortunately the same with the other groups I shot with it...
@johnw44163 жыл бұрын
@@ozziereviews very good and thanks for letting me know 👍👍
@chrisjohnson383 жыл бұрын
It's a shame but Winchester ammo is bloody terrible these days.
@tarryturbo63 жыл бұрын
My weatherby.308 shoots very well with federal ammunition sub moa mine also sprays Winchester around 2” group,my reloads are just under 1” at 100 using Hornady SST projectiles
@inupik233 жыл бұрын
I had a Remington 300 win mag that shot Winchester PowerPoint very well. Well under an inch.
@BigSpoon912 жыл бұрын
What height scope mounts did you use to mount that scope?
@roosterboy7357 Жыл бұрын
427 in and to 1 to 10 inch twist.. you mean 1-10 twist. What was the rest of that supposed to mean?
@larrywhite37863 жыл бұрын
I thought I wanted one but not now
@frankh68713 жыл бұрын
I have standard vanguard 270 sporter barrel shoots federal gold medal match in 0.5 inch and almost all ammo i have within an inch
@mickthewheelchairwoodworke87633 жыл бұрын
Fluted barrels heat up quicker not a fan of them myself had a few shots with the same rifle not so long ago and wasn’t excited over it at all
@jamessurratt32823 жыл бұрын
I have 4 vangards and they will shoot anything I put threw it under 1/2
@larrywhite37863 жыл бұрын
The weathery vanguard is free bored and not that accurate some shoot and some don't I had one and got rid of it because it would not shoot to satisfy me.
@phillipjohnson75833 жыл бұрын
thanks for the review. I will pass on the Weatherby. The .270 is a great rifle caliber to have. I will put my money to better value buys.
@kencrowe19652 жыл бұрын
No need to pass on the Weatherby, he doesn't know how to shoot correctly. Both of my (cheap) Vanguards, one 7 mm Rem Mag and the other a 300 Weatherby Mag, will shoot .5 or better MOA at a 100 yrds!!!
@REDNECKROOTS Жыл бұрын
@@kencrowe1965my exp also . I own a few and love em. Half to 3/4 moa all day as long as it's cool. I say go ahead n pass it's another one I can buy 😂
@catjackoff-road8552 жыл бұрын
Its the ammo..i have a vanguard and federal shot like complete shit, along with winchester, i gave the cheap stuff ago first waste if time. Went nosler and its under an inch. It also says moa with premium ammo. No offence your ammo is far from premium as you had said. Nice set up. I have two go to rifles, vanguard and t3x. Would you recommend the leupold?
@leonardogarcia25062 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s double the U.S. price! But at least you were able to find ammo! Every shelf is empty here.
@brianmilosevic84008 ай бұрын
That's why weatherby doesn't sell well here It's Tikka or sako
@leonardogarcia25067 ай бұрын
@@brianmilosevic8400 stick with them! I don’t really have many bad things to say about howa or howa vanguard. I own a handful of them, but after my first tikka, I’ve purchased quite a few more and a few Sako’s too. They’ve easily become my favorite factory rifles. They’re not perfect either, but in my opinion, they’re a few notches better for me and my needs.
@nathanl74593 жыл бұрын
Hi Ozzie, What type of barrel does it have ? And does the weatherby have the feeding issues its cousin (the Howa) has ?
@skylerhinman66003 жыл бұрын
most weatherby models like the Vanguards and Mark V mostly have a 24inch barrel and in my experience with a weatherby i never had a feeding issue its a smooth rifle and feeds nicely there shotguns are awesome too weatherbys Semi-auto element shotgun was how i found out about Weatherby and there shotguns are amazing i never once had an issue with cycling and there rifles are awesome too they give awesome groupings i never had a Weatherby Mark V but i have 3 Vanguards and there awesome the Mark V is suppose to be a true weatherby so if the vanguard is good im thinking the Mark V must be better if the price of one is 600$ more lol
@aussieplays92613 жыл бұрын
My mate brought this in .223
@tristanstephens33223 жыл бұрын
Do you ever review Christensen arms rifles? I’m interested in the Ridgeline and the Tactical in; 223, 270, 6.5, or 300win mag.
@tristanstephens33223 жыл бұрын
Also forgot to mention I really enjoy your reviews! Fantastic work, always practical and thorough👌🏼
@peterbronxsidetrack12383 жыл бұрын
👍
@anonanon26143 жыл бұрын
I have a question: how does australian law define handguns? Couldn't someone get a 9mm carbine as long as it is short enough to be considered a handgun legally? The SP5k would come to mind
@billythekid22812 жыл бұрын
I think in my state (Vic) a rifle has to be at least 750mm long. (29.5 inches)
@elmerfudd48372 жыл бұрын
What hight rings are you using?
@michaelbruce18472 ай бұрын
My Savage Axis does the same thing with a single bore sighting from my local gunsmith.......the deer don't care.
@NiteWorXTV3 жыл бұрын
Is the barrel free floated?
@baobo672 жыл бұрын
Nice rifle but 270W is overkill for 90% of Ozzie game and not heavy enough for the other 10.
@DefenseWinsChips3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is going to tell him that a cold barrel is recommended? Especially with such a thin barrel…..
@Robert-fs1pb9 ай бұрын
Sig Sauer 270 Winchester or styer manlinchen in 270 winchester.shooting Norma ammo.
@mikedee61733 жыл бұрын
Unless a Weatherby is manufactured by Weatherby, it’s not a Weatherby. You’re an excellent shootist, and you’re a better shooter than the rifle is capable of.
@user-se8ds5ev5k4 ай бұрын
Every single gun is picky about what you shoot through it.
@joshburke40833 жыл бұрын
Don't know why you would bother with this. For that performance and it's price tag, you could buy a nice Tikka or Sako for that price.
@lukefreeman73 жыл бұрын
2 of the worst ammos ive used in my .223 are federal and Winchester… terrible stuff.
@jimbass80362 жыл бұрын
I think you have done better. I would not settle for that group. With that gun you should be shooting 1/8 to1/4 groups.
@wilmamcdermott30652 жыл бұрын
I bought the accumark 270 paid less than 1/2 price. 1100.00 dollars
@trueseeing3 жыл бұрын
Those groups make this rifle pretty pointless considering the accuracy similarly priced bolt actions can give.
@OhSoddit3 жыл бұрын
My first thought was a Tikka T3 lite would have to be a pretty solid competitor.
@user-se8ds5ev5k3 ай бұрын
My vanguards and Howa 1500s are alot older than yours and they will outshoot the tar out of your newbie.
@karenstafford54802 жыл бұрын
I have a old Savage 110 270 caliber and it shoots cheap ammo Dead on. The Vanguard not so much
@18RZZ3 жыл бұрын
I have a new weatherby vanguard in 270 and have tried the following ammunition and the best i have got is 1.6 inch at 100 yards. Hornady 130gr sst 2 inch group Remington corelok 130g 1.7 inch group Winchester deer season xp 1.6 inch group. Federal powershot 130gr 1.9 inch group. I am totally unsatisfied with my weatherby and will be taking it back to the shop for a refund on the accuracy. #shouldhavebought anothertikka
@lk94562 жыл бұрын
Why do I have a feeling your scope wasn’t fitted with a torque wrench and lapped
@toddleahy80022 жыл бұрын
They don't guarantee rapid fire sub moa your meant to let barrel cool between shots. That's why your last shots threw off. Barrel heat. Refine your ammo find what it likes and stick with 2 or 3 loads.
@djwhunting44553 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't touch another Weatherby mine cost me $6000 to set up and can't use to because I can't get a extractor... I am in New Zealand and the importer stopped importing Weatherbys now no support.....the Australian importer doesn't even get back to my emails..and US Weatherbysaid I had to sort it out .. doesn't really matter how good they are if you can't get parts ...
@AP-ow5vu5 ай бұрын
That is a shame mate, did you end up getting it sorted?
@pointerdogman28143 жыл бұрын
Mine in 30-06 will shoot smoa with hand loads.
@DuckersAI3 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue with my howa 1500 in 7mm08 get average 3” groups, ruger American is 10x better
@TheDanCarr3 жыл бұрын
I own a howa and I'm not impressed with it, I don't hate it, I just find it to be a bit ordinary. The vanguard is based on the same gun, kind of a polished turd if you asked me.
@Alan.livingston3 жыл бұрын
Got a couple of them and with the right ammo they shoot okay. They are pretty inexpensive and you get what you pay for I guess.
@TheDanCarr3 жыл бұрын
The howa does have a strong and reliable action, I have no safety concerns and I've never had any feeding or ejection issues. The thing I really dislike is the accuracy, 1.5-2 inches at 100 yard is generally all I can get, I have tried some expensive ammo and it will just squeeze in under an inch but I'm not paying $80 for a box of 20 rounds. The gun is accurate enough to go hunting pigs or for plinking at some steel plates and at $700 with a scope, I know I shouldn't complain
@TheOzTurkish3 жыл бұрын
Would love to get one but that stock looks like ass
@michaelfritz67753 жыл бұрын
What’s with that music....? Daaaaaaaa sorry
@stevewalker4638 Жыл бұрын
Winchester ammo is no good
@jaypeemagno70443 жыл бұрын
👌❤️👏👍🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
@brianmilosevic84002 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is appalling! For that $$$$$
@russianbotstein14222 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find the ammo is the issue.
@jeffkraft80293 жыл бұрын
Sorry buddy but my Savage Axis will do that .02 to .05 grouping all day long at 100 yds. Lol..not impressed! :/