Weaving Influences: A Talk by Don Anderson from Agalloch (Heavy Metal UVic)

[@jakerolfe7689]

Just saw Agalloch play last night. This guy was so happy to be on-stage. The whole band killed it and they were all obviously enjoying themselves, but Don wins the "most upbeat dude onstage" award.

[@BeatrizFleurHades]

In Sydney right? I loved them!

[@jakerolfe7689]

@@BeatrizFleurHades Melbourne show. Was packed out too

[@gravyjones5608]

Sydney went off. So good

[@anyal1987]

This is now my favorite thing on the Internet. I adore this man, I adore John and the rest of Agalloch so much, and feel so fucking fortunate to have discovered them.

[@vorgoth55]

Aaaaaand Their gone.

[@jpmisterioman]

Don is indeed a really nice guy. John now, is a totally douche.

[@anyal1987]

+Vorgoth :'(

[@solinvictus39]

I have to agree. The last time I saw Agalloch, it was plain to see that John was being a total cunt, while the rest of the band were trying to put on a good show. It was sad to behold, as I really loved that band.

[@anyal1987]

Actually, it's really unfair how all of this went down and how some are being portrayed over others. I'll just say that. Nobody really knows what happened and what went on behind the scenes. It all just really sucks.

[@harism.904]

The way Don describes finding Dynamic Curve by Sand by accident, he may as well have told us he found the vinyl in a metal capsule scuba diving off the coast of Key Largo like some kind of alien sent treasure. So rad. ❤

[@Hermitthecog]

Agallochademia :D

[@anyal1987]

+Shane Lange So good.

[@anyal1987]

Win

[@liztatecanrelate]

He was my favorite teacher 🌟 so inspiring and clearly walking in his purpose. You can just see it in his excitement and enthusiasm. So much passion. I literally was in shock how much I was engaged in all of his lessons. I usually had all incompletes due to depression and anxiety, yet I made sure to finish and show up to his English classes. 🙌

[@BlueCliff72]

Their music means a ton to me, but that's way awesome to hear that Don's a thoughtful and engaging professor too! That's crazy how influence can be so varied but still meaningful, whether it's through some band's album or your actual professor. People are awesome

[@wewillrockyou1986]

I love the way Don talks, he has so much energy and works his way around his sentences so well.

[@Are_Higher]

Oh man. I miss you Don. This is the first time I've seen you in, what? 15 years? Cracking me up.

[@Are_Higher]

I know you won't see this. It's Rebecca.

[@gabiocampos]

Agalloch holds a special place in my heart

[@theorncampbell4432]

11:21 Each member of Athiest thanked "Weed" in the liner notes of the album. They even had a track named "Green" on the album. I think that represents a huge portion of "how did we get there?".

[@karobiawho6845]

The first few moments of "The dynamic curve" and you can hear "The Mantle" all over it.

[@Wangan_W]

I miss Don, hope all is well with him!

[@cwh244]

Goddamn, I love this man... and Agalloch... and The Mantle... and *Heavy* Post-Black-Shoegaze-Grey-Whatever *Metal*. \,.,/_(Ò,.,Ó)_\,.,/

[@shawnc318]

serpent and the sphere is Don's favorite...man i will give it a good listen again today.....i thought he would say this

[@cristiantudose208]

The part about Iron Maiden hits home for me. This is how I start learning English, a pocket dictionary and the Seventh Son of a Seventh Son original album with all the lyrics. It went so deep into my brain, I still know ALL the songs top to bottom, even better that Bruce I presume :)

[@49TheWall]

What a cool lecture. Amazing band and guy. Looking at this 8 years after the fact I would say that the acceleration actually hasn't caused the predicted disintegration. At least not yet. I would even argue that the development of metal has slowed down. A lot of great music is still being made but new "events" are few and far between

[@anyal1987]

I think there may have been a spike in new listeners now that Gojira played the Olympics and forced billions of people to hear tech/progressive death metal fused with opera lol.

[@brandontadday6288]

If anyone is interested about which documentary where the sample from ‘Tomorrow Never Comes’ is taken from, the name of the documentary is ‘Children Of Darkness’. It’s a great documentary (pretty sure you can still find an upload of it here on KZbin if you look for it).

[@OrianIglesias]

This was brilliant, thanks so much for the upload.

[@sam-koudriavtsev-piano-key4559]

Very thought provoking.

[@Maria-dd9iu]

This is the coolest thing I’ve ever seen

[@WordsThroughTheSky]

Dude at the beginning, why you so nervous brah? You sounded like me in 1st year.

[@Jer80ri]

+WordsThroughTheSky Yeah I'm not normally that nervous- but I don't normally introduce rockstars who get recorded and have their talks put on youtube...

[@geirholte1222]

Haha, agreed. Sounds like I were to induct my hero Lemm to the RaR HoF or something.

[@Gabe-qd4gz]

that's just how my dad is sometimes. i mean wouldn't you be nervous in front of don?

[@MepEffigyArts]

im uploading the Sand album Don referred to

[@Solaire_of_atlantis]

imagone if he had 4 hands

[@posisteve]

great content thx for posting

[@mostafakalantary]

thank you so much for uploading

[@danielharper5009]

But now Agalloch has disbanded... :(

[@oniponi]

Thanks for sharing this.

[@emilyharris1809]

This is so good

[@JohnnyNekro]

GREAT !!!!!!

[@da1battlefront]

Thanks for uploading this!

[@AnfalasHerdsman]

love Andersson and Agalloch . hes so down to Earth and talks so good . hope to catch them live someday

[@MegaMed99]

hopefully we get a reunion, let's just keep hoping

[@TheApothecaryAus]

He mentioned WIITR but didn't mention Weakling's importance. but, amazing talk nonetheless.

[@anyal1987]

Please elaborate, I'm very interested

[@stefankienzle1587]

I don't really think mentioning Weakling in relation to the envrionmental lyrical overtones of Cascadian black metal would have added to much to what he was talking about.

[@NeroAngelo616]

If I recall right Weakling's lyrical themes were more human themed instead of nature/ enviromental based.

[@ni_n__ho.oh__n_in]

Which film did he say inspired Marrow of the Spirit?

[@MestariDuff]

I don't remember if he mentionned a movie. But I know that the name comes from the writer Henry David Thoreau who wrote Marrow of Life

[@RobboElRobbo]

Werckmeister Harmonies

[@Randinator]

39:29 Arghoslent is a pretty obscure name drop.

[@slaythembeforeme]

Considering they're not Black Metal and he said "give me a white supremacist black metal band", it's not even just obscure, it's not a relevant response.

[@ilaTaNaTali]

Con subtítulos en español por favor... Gracias!

[@xaRg0n1337]

the feels :(

[@Converqe]

Very smart and funny guy. Thank you for this.

[@derekd1997]

A funny thing about metal and religion, I find a lot of the great european power metal bands are christian and include it in their lyrics. Helloween, Blind Guardian, Edguy and Avantasia. Even Iron Maiden lately has been very religious. From Starblind (from The Final Frontier, 2010): "Whatever God, you know. He knows you, better than you believe" As an agnostic I'd rather have my favorite artists share my views but I'm fine with them having their beliefs, they aren't too push about it.

[@True_Necroholic]

I cannot stop thinking about Nicholas Cage

[@user-qb3jg8ep9t]

>Not being a musical renaissance man by listening to country and pop with the same devotion as to metal and techno

[@harism.904]

I feel guilty just taking such rad music suggestions from Dr. Don without giving any. If reading this, I think you’d really like some New Age artists based on your music and tastes like William Aura, Steve Roach, Yanni, David Arkenstone, Davol, and Forrest Smithson. Hope you enjoy.

[@bobsbigboy_]

almost Jon Anderson from Yes

[@sludgedisciple]

I would argue that Fear Factory's first two could fit into the idea of an "Event". Certainly Soul of a New Machine... it was 1992 if I remember correctly.

[@goddessfrost2668]

🤘🤘🤘🎶 R.I.P ♥ R.I.D 🎶🤘🤘🤘

[@Typhoon0627]

Thanks for posting this!!! Love Don, super good dude and always a pleasure to talk with when he's in town... But pretty sure he is COKED-THE-FUCK-OUT right now. Also, wondering how many of you paused this to go listen to Athiest haha.

[@anyal1987]

Highly doubt it.

[@PinkFloydrulez]

COFFEED-THE-FUCK-OUT

[@PinkFloydrulez]

tbh i think it's just The Anxiety

[@anyal1987]

Eh, maybe a bit at first, but I'm thinking he was just excited more than anything. Why would he have that much anxiety? He's a professor himself. He's used to speaking like this in front of large groups, and those people are usually dazing off, not caring what he's teaching them. But these people were very interested in what he had to say. So if anything, I think he was excited to present such a topic in front of a group of intelligent, fascinated students.

[@samadams6120]

syclone1931 Had Don as an instructor - highly doubt it's coke. Like others, it's probably a mix of caffeine and anxiety. Regardless of what gives him energy, high praise - dude is brilliant!

[@tho4life611]

It's funny he doesn't bring up opeth...

[@KingofRock943]

liminalexpression Not really. While Opeth is important they existed more in tandem vs

[@CroPscyho]

dat pynchon tat tho :')

[@rodolink_2]

What is the film influential for Marrow of the spirit? He says in minute 54:50 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoqZdZZ7g9qjq9k

[@PinkFloydrulez]

BERGMAN METAL

[@coronakitty8955]

teaching English is cool and all but come on Don it's been 14 years since Ashes Against the Grain. Can we have one more Pale Folklore/The Mantle/Ashes Against the Grain? Please make up with John and gift us something timeless again.

[@gotpezz]

they are friends again. john just doesn’t want to reform the band and only wants to do solo stuff now

[@addisoncraven1692]

Hahahaha Arghoslent.

[@slaythembeforeme]

Arghoslent is great but he should have said Grand Belial's Key.

[@DethronerX]

Thanks for sharing this, very informative, but at 10:35 why was it silenced, did he say, "fucking", and if that was censored, then you dont know rock and roll. Why post the video for Metal if you're going to censor words like FUCK. It doesn't make sense and i dont think KZbin has a policy for censoring the word FUCK. Now it's bled into pop music too, so which target audience is this video directed to? This is rock and roll, please don't censor words like FUCK and SHIT. Only pop people do that for pop shows, where someone covers Creep by Radiohead and change FUCK to VERY. Its bullshit!

[@slaythembeforeme]

He asked for a "white supremacist black metal band" and the one person said Arghoslent 🤦‍♂️ lmao

[@DeanH92]

39:28 Which idiot called Arghoslent black metal?

[@ronaldpvincent11]

Bela Tarr sucks sorry, but not Agalloch of course :D

[@wolfstar675]

Aberetschke Abertude "Bella Tarr sucks" Werkmeister Harmonies, Satantango and The Turin Horse prove otherwise.

[@olegdepapa]

@@wolfstar675 Yup. I watched The Turin Horse, and I cannot forget it. Most other things are easily forgettable.

[@GoldenGateNum9]

*"Behold **_my_** slain deer upon **_my_** solid oak mantle,* *a testament to **_my_** conquering of **_my_** parents."* - Carl Jung *Fake angsty Neo-Folk 'eh hem'.. "Metal" for 13 year olds. Safe & secure Melancholy for* *cradled pubescent teens. For silver spoon beatnik wannabe adolescents.. O' beautiful for* *spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for snow filled mountain majesties, above thy* *desolate plain, of beautiful tragedy & pain... Agalloch & their forever trend following ilk will* *forever be California Dreamin', on SUCH a winter's day, in the life is SO hard US of A.*

[@ilyasantonov212]

Huh?

[@judethomas7017]

can you source that Jung quote for me? Really interested in reading more

[@GoldenGateNum9]

@@judethomas7017 Its not actually a word for word quote which was copy and pasted, its an insight and observation which I learned from Jungs incredible Psychology Of The Unconscious 1912 book, a highly recommended read.

[@watcheroffadinglight]

@@GoldenGateNum9 What does all that even mean? This text is copied and pasted on almost every Agalloch-related video and I as a non native English speaker can't understand a single word

[@GoldenGateNum9]

@@watcheroffadinglight exsactly, USA for USA

[@stephenmustard8388]

I'm disappointed to see that Don is a totally generic post-modern-marxist critical theorist, with a metal flare. :( I think i would enjoy a lecture more from John.

[@Gabe-qd4gz]

john sucks and is not an academic so... good luck with that

[@olegdepapa]

12 tonal music is dead. It's not musical. It also cuts people away from folk and traditional roots. And that is the whole point of post-modernism and this whole Derrida and Fruko this whole new historicism - just take bits and pieces, and lets dissect everything into nothingness, which isn't empowering for youth to hear at all, it is more empowering to be a musician and to create something, without being alienated from your labour. But this is exactly what education has become. And in order to be in academia, you are brainwashed to adopt their lingo. Agalloch to me is and only is Pale Folklore. The title and the visuals contain this traditionalist and naturalist form of life. The folk elements are heard more on The Mantle. But anyway, that's what metal is to me. And to put metal into academia is almost trademark it, which is maybe what they are trying to do, using these prog elements will yield to their agendas easier. This guy compares Varg to Hiedegger? Hidegger's concepts deal with phenomenology and he was the most important philosopher of the 20th century. To dismiss him as a Natzi is like saying that Dostoyevsky was an alcoholic and gambler, totally overlooking Dostoyevsky's challenge to the world to be better using Christian parables in his works and current belief systems. Both men were products of their time and cultures, and so is this man, which is why he can say these things. These people are the ones rewriting the history. They think they won. OH, and then I have to remember that they are from Portland too.

[@fezzywig8867]

incredible music, super annoying persona. what an ironical contrast

[@David-yj4tr]

From my college experience this is what makes a good professor. The energy is good for lecturing. Better than someone with no energy just droning on.