I MOVED FROM THE UK TO GHANA , YOU CAN BARELY MAKE $20,000 , I CAN MAKE $80,000

[@FarmerRichie]

Moved to Ghana from the Uk. Life in the Uk is hell, its all about work work work and nothing else. 95 percent of ur wages goes into rent and bills leaving them with nothing at all. People are actually surviving in the Uk. They have the worse weather patterns. Very unpredictable. Always wet and cold. Ghana on the orther hand is more chilled and relaxed. But u definitely need to have a business here to survive so anybody planing to relocate to Ghana should plan ahead b4 doing so

[@KV45355]

True. But to live comfortably in the west you need to be a big money earner.

[@py20]

Jeffrey is a perfect example of the colonized mind. It's a pity listening to some of the things coming out of his mouth. The level of ignorance and mental slavery is shockingly sad and I hope he emancipates himself sooner rather than later. Kudos to Kay for the free, masterful education he gave Jeffrey and his thinkalikes.

[@jayajaya788]

Definitely!!! very sad...can you imagine how many more people think this way in Africa?

[@petertosh8275]

💯

[@EightyFour-s3z]

Not true. He’s a realist and not fantasist. #just saying.

[@py20]

@@EightyFour-s3z A "realist" who didn't even know we had use for our gold long before the white man came to our soil? Unbelievable ignorance!

[@solrackarbon5089]

You took da words out of my mouth, Jeffery needs to study himself first, know thyself, African proverb

[@tanyaslo]

Kay, you absolutely smashed this interview! Living in the UK is a mental hell-hole, so many of us are leaving or at least considering it. I would love for the people abroad to take heed of what we're saying because if you don't hear, you will feel it when you find out how bad-minded England and America can be. It's true when you say we need to change our mindsets! I am from a Caribbean background, Jamaica & Barbados, and many people there also raise the same arguments Jefferey made based on experiencing poverty - no disrespect, but it's a defeatest mentality and sad that so many believe that all our life problems are resolved in the West like the Europeans are God. The true creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, is real! Not everything in life is about money, fancy cars, and clothes - so long as we have the foundations - God, food, water and shelter, we are good, all of which Africa can provide and build without assistance from the West. Continue spreading hope and being a light unto others; it's essential when so many lack faith! All praises to the Most High!! - sending blessings to all of you in the video/debate, as these conversations are essential. Please keep up the debates/conversations. Much love from London

[@thesoundofaccrapodcast]

agreed!

[@biashacker]

That is what I never understood. Both in Africa and the Caribbean people always say they believe in god, but they worship the white man like he is god and wonder why things are not going better for them. White people worship god in a way that justifies them stealing everything. People from the Caribbean and Africa worship god in a way that makes them perpetual victims that never stand up for themselves. Not in Niger of course, because those people have finally had enough!

[@mandyb6414]

People are leaving the US also. This Ghanaian guy does not realize how difficult the West is. The West will send you mad in a short time.

[@mandyb6414]

You are 100% right. Piece of mind. This guy Jeffery missing the point that he has land and access to land. Why would the creator gave you land with the ability to produce. Then you turn around and give it up

[@ackahkofiefrancis4289]

I am not sure, you have live in ghana before , we live in a country where the inflation rate is about 42% interest rate is about 35 - 40%, to get a job is another thing , even if you get some, the pay for even a degree holder, Averagely ranging from $200 - $300 per month . You employer can even choice to pay and nothing can be done to him/her . For every entrepreneur and as a start up, when you venture into new business, there are shock that might come and you need money to support it . To get a long is a hell and the interest rate to is very high (35-42%) compare that to the west.

[@mj-zq4qg]

Most people in uk live in debt and have sleepless nights and depressions , this dude is confused

[@MiscellaneousMeMe]

Exactly! I can contest to this as a mental health nurse.

[@Warrior4Good]

FACTS

[@kwesidiamonds8242]

I tried less than 2years , l couldn't and left in fact despite leaving the rented apartment clean and perfect l did not get my deposit back .

[@kwameutd7500]

Lol you people will be in a world of shock if you finally relocate to Africa. You think ebe easy?

[@hurdlesharon8187]

U.S.A. too.

[@mastersabbi]

Most of us Africans living in the States are in debts and cannot even afford a plane ticket to visit our Mother Land. I grew up in the streets of Sierra Leone, West Africa as a refugee. I was so excited to when I met my USA girlfriend and came to USA.trust me as hardworking as you can be. Africa is my home and I miss it every day. My family and I are now trying to pay off our debts and go start over in Africa. Great debate. We all need to collectively go back and build our home

[@josephbrown1573]

Speak for yourself .I am not in debt!

[@msrubie11]

@mastersabbi At least you told the truth! Jeffery needs to hear the truth not the lies @josephbrown1573 is telling! It is almost too late for Africa. Black Americans live in the Belly of the Beast and have fought our behinds off to force change. They allowed open migration for cheap labor, to diminish Black American political and social cultural relevance that makes trillions around the world. They thought they could hand it off to Nigerians, who are some of the biggest sellouts in the history of the Black world. What they don't understand is their country is already gone! Africans who have a heart and courage need to remain or go back, take what you know and build your lands and get rid of your sell out governments! Nigerians are getting ready to get a massive wake up call!

[@terrelmensa4373]

@@josephbrown1573You are not the yardstick 99% of Americans are in debt. Are you not paying a mortgage? Or rent? Do you own your home? Smh

[@josephbrown1573]

@@terrelmensa4373 That is the mind set that keeps you in debt .Stop spending on worthless items .I did and paid off my mortgage in 19 years .I have no credit card debt .I paid off my car and continue to drive it and maintain it for ten years . We live a very comfortable life because we have no debt. Just came back from a beautiful vacation in Zanzibar we saved up for and paid cash!!

[@mastersabbi]

@@josephbrown1573 can you comprehend what you read? I said most. I didn't say you. In 2022 American household debt hit a new record of 16.9 trillion. I am not saying there are no opportunities here. People here collectively work, take risks and invest in their country in order to keep and enjoy their privileges. We as Africas come here to find the easy route. Going back and giving back is not a bad idea but some of us miss the concept. Africa is not bad. Let's market our continent and change our mindset. We are great people and we have a beautiful continent and rich cultures. Let us stop the negative representation of our own continent. California has one of the biggest homeless population. NY, Chicago etc. Poverty is everywhere. #letsbuildAfrica one love

[@Onlytherawtruth]

That Ghanaian brother doesn't know his history. That's one reason Africa content is the trouble it is now. That brother from the UK is spot on.❤

[@terrelmensa4373]

People like Jeffery speak out of poverty and suffering. Poverty indeed affects our ability to think properly. There are so many people in Ghana who are living a better life compared to some of us here in 🇺🇸 America . Sometimes it’s not even about money but it’s about living a stress free life not worrying about bills, mortgages, racism , harsh cold weather, people mocking your African accent etc. Life is all about being happy within. That is what many people in western countries don’t have. I am a proud American citizen but I will never talk down about Ghana. The peace and joy I feel whenever I go back to Ghana is inexplicable and priceless. God bless 🇬🇭 Ghana.

[@py20]

Let's hope he gets to go and clean toilets in Winnipeg, Canada and maybe the cold realities will give him a fresh appreciation of life in Ghana. Pathetic mental slavery!

[@kelugu3776]

​@@py20😂😂😂. There's no access to clean public toilets in Ghana. I recently did a trip from Kumasi to Tamale and had to take a toilet break. What I saw nearly made me puke. Think how successful Jeffery would be in Ghana if he built some public toilets along the motorway and kept them immaculate instead of going all the way to New York to clean someone else's toilets for minimum wage.

[@py20]

@@kelugu3776 Ditto; thanks!

[@terrelmensa4373]

@@py20 People like him usually remain in the honeymoon stage for about 5 years when they arrive. But later the realities start hitting them.

[@mavisburke495]

​​@@kelugu3776Excellent idea Jeffrey wouldnot think of your suggestions if a foreigner or dispora use that idea of public toilets then he would say they are genius or became successful because they left africa. Jeffrey point is you must leave , nothing will change his mind.

[@AntonsClass]

Us folk born in the West see the opportunities in Africa. Those born in Africa see the opportunities in the West. Therefore, the solution is for us to embrace each other. Use the resources - education and money - made in the West to develop Africa, if possible. I will add that African nations could extend longer visa stays and an easier, faster route to citizenship for Diasporans too.

[@chriszugu8422]

Only problem is Ghanians fleeing is not thinking about building Ghana. His goal is Range Rover

[@AntonsClass]

@@chriszugu8422 this is true. Those folks don't see the bigger picture. But capitalism and consumerism encourage hyper individualism.

[@NKiani]

True As an African diasporan I agree

[@bitdigital8052]

It is possible. 💯

[@biashacker]

Africa would be in a much better spot if they had only reached out to the Diaspora and made strategic partnerships. All African countries had to say is "look we can not offer you very much but come here for a short stay so you can detox from all that racism and hardship in the west, before you go back." That in itself would have helped so many diasporians around the world.

[@lablueplumbing6073]

JEFFREY is Definitely one of your Best Guests of All Time!.. I mean, eventhough im in a more Africa Progressive Mindset, i cannot ignore that most of the issues Jeffery is talking about are Very True! People constantly experiencing Poverty on the grounds of Africa is very real.. and with no visible significant change in sight.. Yes, my brother Jeffrey is also speaking some Ignorance about Life Abroad and the White Supremacy System, and painting a picture of Western Saviors. But i cant really blame him. And its like he said: "Tell Me, What Do We Do?" and "How?".. If we Diaspora cant articulate a specific workable and viable PLAN for Africa's Youth, then we cant get mad over most of the things Jeffrey says.

[@addosolar537]

There is a middle ground in this discussion. Every family needs one person who is abroad and sends money home. The key is how the family back home uses the money.

[@e.mountain1637]

True.

[@kelugu3776]

Well done Webnation. This was a brilliant demonstration of the diaspora v African mindset. Its a real paradox that to build Africa we need the diaspora mindset, and yet so many Africans can't seem to attain that mindset without first growing up in the diaspora. I nearly fell off my chair with laughter when Jeffery said he could make £80k a year in the UK. There are lawyers, doctors, accountants and every type of skilled professional you can think of with UK qualifications who don't make that much. What's he planning to do - rob a bank?

[@animoh1]

That may be his intention but the guy can dream 😂

[@adunnio]

I’m about to watch Americas Most Wanted! 😂

[@JohnDN72]

I live in the west. Left Africa where my my government did not even know that I exist. That is what neglect is. Lead people to seek opportunities some place else. But now after over 30 years, I want to come back and put everything I learned on the table and teach others to do as well.

[@ackahkofiefrancis4289]

You are real, thank God you are coming back .

[@alfredstreete]

The problem with what he said that you have to leave Africa to find success is Mindset. When you live in developing countries many times you don't see opportunities right around you. Yes travelling open your eyes to the very opportunity. But it generally takes a shift in mindset.

[@georgeasamoah7593]

Blacktop has not live in abroad b4 so he does not understand the fact you telling him.

[@VetMentorsllc]

I put together 4 business plans while in Ghana. I am the diaspora.

[@VetMentorsllc]

I started watching your videos before going to Ghana. There are so many opportunities in Ghana.

[@Dreamdreams350]

That 70 and 85 yr old man in Ghana are in better health than 70, 85yr man in the US.

[@duffslife]

This is the best interview I've seen. Bothe views have merit. I side with the man from the UK. We must build in Africa.

[@lifeinthecountrysidehome]

Kay is killing this interview with his great knowledge and understanding of his history and background. He is very knowledgeable about his facts and can make a non-biased viewpoint because he has lived in both worlds and has the experience because he lived it. Jeffery on the other hand is making some true facts concerning poverty within Ghana but he has a Western mindset that he needs to change fast if he really wants to help his people to have better lives. There will be poor people everywhere in this world. Can we stop poverty? yes, I believe we can if can come together and put the proper systems in place so that people can be provided for in all stages of their lives and don't have to feel poor and downcast. I live in the West, and I know the hardship here. It has it good points also but will I say Africa needs the West? I think NO. WE ALL KNOW THAT AFRICA CAN STAND ON ITS OWN TWO FEET BUT FIRST WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER, GET RID OF THE CORRUPTION, and start building systems that will work for the people and our future generations to come.

[@TheJaqueenvn1]

Jeffery I feel your pain , and my brother I understand where you are coming from. I was born and raised in Jamaica but I had to leave there. It is not because I don’t love my Island but there are no opportunities for me in Jamaica . For the pass twenty years I have been living in Florida. And because of the opportunity that was given to me I was able to buy my mom a house cash in Jamaica. She was so happy. every day she call me to say God bless you my daughter. I’m saying this to say that if I was still living in Jamaica I would never be able to buy my mom a house. Listen I heard that Singapore is very wealthy and developed. Why don’t you try and go there instead of America or the UK where it is harder. I wish you all the best may you find the opportunity that you are looking for. Peace and love ❤️

[@miztri]

Happy for your success in the US. Do you own your home in the US? Do you not understand what k is saying that the same knowledge and skill set that you have that major successful in the US and Florida why not take those same skills and knowledge take it back to Jamaica or Africa or wherever and create opportunities for those that are less fortunate as opposed to staying in the US and be self-serving because that's really what it is

[@terrelmensa4373]

It’s not about money or you being able to buy your mom a house that’s a nice gesture but we are talking about MENTAL FREEDOM. Living a stress free lifestyle. Look at how many Americans who fly to Jamaica each year to cool off and relax. You think they don’t see the good there? Some of us travel to America and we completely rubbish our homelands. American will give you the jobs but you will never be as happy and accepted if you were in Jamaica.

[@sionrouge1697]

I can't wait until Desantis or Trump is elected. You immigrants are gone

[@DeninsAttobrah-lm2ku]

@@terrelmensa4373 if you don't feel happy in America come and stay hear in Ghana

[@EightyFour-s3z]

WORD

[@fradoline]

Great debate! Very smart people having discussion and finding out how to improve and lift each other up,making life better for all!

[@SamanthaLarbi]

We need a part two. Kay did so well. If I was in this I don’t think I could be so chill. Got juicy at the end 😂

[@Krisnagirlz]

My youth brother is speaking the truth to power and we need him to teach his generation and we can capitalize on our continent and put African people back in control of Africa, you are so right and we need your knowledge on every diaspora media platform

[@rockline6114]

In the 15th century the Ashanti Kingdom was trading with *GOLD DUST* as a currency. It's clear Jeff has got an ill mind for this country. Ghana has got a lot to offer man

[@kelugu3776]

Apparently his tribe was using gold nuggets for football.😂😂

[@UniquePathWellness]

As a Jamaican who left Jamaica at 18 and migrated to the US, I understand where Jeffrey is coming from. My friends who stayed in Jamaica after high school and after working for a year could not buy a home or a car. I was able to purchase those necessities in a year as a nurses aide then went on to register nurse in less than 2 years. As a young adult I didn’t want to go back to JAmaica because the opportunities are not as plentiful but now as an older Diasporan, I’m now of the mindset that I need to go back and help build my own country since in the US you’re just a number. Kay also made excellent points but it took a while for him to free himself from the UK system and realize he should go back to Africa. Since he did not grow up in Africa, his mindset is different since he’s looking from the outside in. Jeffrey definitely should be encouraged to leave and then in a few years, he will probably appreciate what he has in Ghana. We should stop trying to convince people who don’t have the mindset and work with the people who want to give back to their community.

[@joehouston2833]

🧢

[@leratosetlogelo7004]

Very true! Some of us in SA r privileged with education/ engineering backgrounds. So we can innovate. Life in west Africa is hard! Much better in SA with the economy in Pink european hands but getting worse under politicians!

[@emmanueldoviavu-iw9bv]

True

[@MaxMaxwellYT]

This situation really drives home the point that not everyone should be handed a mic and a camera. I've seen this guy before, spreading the same misguided stuff. It's high time he takes a step back, giving the younger folks from Africa and the diaspora room to think and grow into the leaders they know they can be. It's seriously concerning how he's pushing an outsider's agenda on his own people. He is only listening to respond not to learn.

[@WebnationAfrica]

Interesting point

[@sanoussiassane7134]

Good to see you here max Maxwell here

[@WebnationAfrica]

I see you bro , Amazing content you got , let’s link up

[@L.I.2RVA]

Just want to say, great content you both provide!! @MaxMaxwellYT and @WebnationAfrica Its nauseating listen to this brother Jeffrey...Im rooting for him, but I truly feel there's a disconnect in his logic. He'd rather make "them" rich, versus building at home....no logic at all!

[@kayjay9484]

Max Maxwell, your people need you in Ghana not Dubai brother, good luck to you

[@investgeek.crypto]

I love the debates! This is a debate that is constantly going through the minds of myself and my wife. Watching these debates helps us to grow our perspectives and learn from both sides!

[@travelwithShadae]

When Jeffery goes there and get the experience and look back on these videos he's gonna say something different

[@petertosh8275]

True

[@lifewithhelenb583]

So True

[@tequishamcdearmon9152]

This is by far the best interview broadcast this year!!! I understand both views, but I'm pro-African, and I plan on using my knowledge and resources and moving to Ghana!

[@mrboateng_]

Kay is speaking straight facts, success is not your location it's more your mindset.

[@TeeStillStanding]

I think ur right. I left Africa at age 9. Grew up in the US. I've been going to Ghana and Zumbabee trying business. When it flops I run back to America for capital. An African who knows nothing but Africa would find a way to raise that capital right there in Africa. I don't have have that skill or mindset nor patience.

[@APOLO-oq3ce]

Thank you, you are the only one making sense.i live on both continents usa and Africa. I have met so many successful Africa both in Africa and United States. If you work hard you will be fine on either continent.

[@Travelaround9580]

Your location hugely plays part of your success don’t play yourself

[@YouStillNeedToSleep]

Diasporans have a different work culture. Right now agriculture is wide open and many diasporans are buying land and doing big business in the villages. Average Ghanaian is not interested. Recently many Ghanaian professionals are leaving their office jobs to do farming business because they are wise and they see the future benefit. By the time Ghanaian youth see the benefit of agriculture and food export to the Chinese markets, it will be too late. The second advantage is new ways of thinking. Diasporans is programmed to be on time. Ask Ghanaian to be on time and see who is late more often in a one month period compared to most diasporans!!! That's just one example!

[@jerryseshie2114]

Kay you are making a lot of sense and I am very impressed with the level of intelligence.

[@amoysutherland3485]

I'm a Jamaican i would love to move to Africa and live a healthy happy life and being able to see my children grow up in the right way and be humble....then to live in America Canada or the UK....only Africans think it is impossible to make it in Africa....i really enjoyed this video...nuff love from 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@logicali9575]

Please don’t generalise. I’m African and don’t share this eediot man’s views.

[@msingenuity4442]

It's the same way Jamaicans feel we have to go abroad to make it

[@sachar4777]

Trust me, if you move to Ghana, I give you 1 year you will have enough of the people. When they see you they see cash 😂 and at some point you get fes up.

[@malcolmjacksonsmillionaire3549]

I am from the USA and I just subscribed because you asked 😊I just left Ghana only days ago. I plan to return soon to help the people of Ghana with job opportunities.

[@MsGuthrie1]

Kay, your mindset is brilliant! thank you for schooling us all.

[@mariejean-jacques9282]

Great conversation!!! Loved it. The brothers are not fighting, not disrespecting each other. Each one has valuable points but respecting each other. We need more of these conversations. They said black people cannot talk to each other civilly, this proves that it is not true.

[@mr.afrikaano8672]

Our problems in Africa is yhe systems. Our system doesn't work, what work in Africa is whom you know. If the system works, then Africa is the best place to live

[@MarianLivingLife]

I live in the UK and the average salary is definitely not £20,000 unless someone has no experience, no qualifications and is under 18 years old. I became a social worker in 2000 and my starting salary was £25,000. When I stopped working as a Social worker in 2020, my salary was £36,000. I earn £20,000 in my part time counselling role now, plus run a counselling business. Everyone I know who has a degree or experience is earning over £30,000 a year. It also depends on where people live and how they budget. My dad was Ghanaian and my aunt from Ghana couldn’t even afford to pay his hospital bills when he got ill. My Ghanaian cousins have all moved to America because they can’t afford to live in Ghana. There are a lot of factors involved.

[@Papsey1]

Kay really understands his background and very informative. I think Jeff needs more enlightenment although he’s using his current situation and experience as a general consensus which isn’t the facts as compared to kay argument. Thanks webnation for the platform. We hope to be home soon to share our skills. Cheers.

[@evasrokisini4844]

Honestly they all making such an valuable point I don’t know who to support.

[@kuyahkudey3217]

Perfect discussion! Thanks for posting great content that will help bridge the gap between the diaspora and Africa..

[@Mandem92]

Amazing convo. Muchas gracias hermanos.

[@mrboateng_]

Fun fact: There is around 207 billion Ghana cedi in circulation in Ghana right now which is equivalent to £15 billion pounds. All you have to do is position yourself so that you can tap into some some of this money by providing goods and services. You can be rich no matter the country you find yourself in. Success is not a location its a mindset.

[@frankstephens3087]

Very powerful

[@kwameutd7500]

I presume when you say “position yourself” you refer to connections right?

[@mrboateng_]

@@kwameutd7500 no my friend connections will come later learn how to sell and start a business however small and grow from there.

[@Travelaround9580]

Talk is cheap ampa

[@mellisa888]

We're waiting patiently

[@WebnationAfrica]

😂😂😂

[@MissElaine121]

@@WebnationAfrica🤣😂

[@frana.4086]

Hayward, very good discussion! Perhaps Jeffery needs to meet some diasporans that have been in Ghana for many years. There is an instructor at the University of Ghana that holds a PhD by the name of Nana Kwama and his mother that are from the US. His project is called Sankofa.

[@tyroneamirthornton9109]

Watching you from America really enjoyed the conversation and the debate on both sides thank you for sharing.

[@eudo1898]

The biggest problem in Africa where developing a business is of concern is TRUST. Being there I realize that it's a real issue that lends itself to poverty. The Chinese, the Indians the Arabs plus support one another however, not the Black man. They will prefer for you to die with your gift and ambition than to assist you. It's call the crab mentally. An educated mind cannot be enslaved.

[@francisgodmanntv5937]

This is what Jeffrey is talking about 😂

[@AkanniTheProfit]

Such important conversations. I have these talks with my Ghanaian family and friends all the time. I hope that as Jeffery grows he will believe in himself and his people.

[@jesulasmith3148]

you should included a person you used his or her mind to make it in Ghana be part of this debate.

[@goldie12577]

Both of them have points. That’s all I can say.

[@thewiseones1742]

As an American, I’m still with Jeffrey. He’s not overly idealistic and caught up in emotion. He speaks reality. People say don’t come to Ghana for a job. What are Ghanaians suppose to do? Not everyone can start a business. People need decent paying jobs most of the time. So, yes, use the West to get ahead and use that money in Africa. At least until Ghana can provide jobs for its non-entrepreneurial citizens. One size doesn’t fit all. It’s easy for us in the diaspora to ignore the advantages we’ve received from the West when we go back to Africa. It’s not fair to guilt trip Africans who desire that advantage.

[@terrelmensa4373]

He could have made his point by saying he wants to make that same money and come back home to invest but he is making it look like Ghana is a hell hole you need to leave and not even look back . These comments are very ignorant.

[@EightyFour-s3z]

✨WORD✨

[@juniorester6942]

With today inflation and interest hike, it impossible to save money from the west and to invest in Africa! You keep running in a loop hole of debt that never end! I have been living in the west for 20 years and can attest to that!

[@kelugu3776]

And who's going to create the jobs and fight for good pay, pensions, free education and a high quality health care system if everyone japas? What Jeffery and his ilk don't appreciate is that ordinary working people in the West - not governments and oligarchs - fought for the systems he admires and wants to benefit from. High time we rolled up our sleeves as Africans and started fighting for the Africa we want to see instead of passing the buck.

[@mastersabbi]

I don't think it's a guilt trip. I think it's a great debate but for most of us Africans living in the diaspora, we know the struggles here. Go to LA, Chicago, Charlotte, NY, to name a few, and see the homeless people. Go to the suburbs here in the US and see how people live. And that's the reality too. It's bigger that just the "emotions" I know so many rich Africans who never left the continent. Yes there is a "working system" here in the States but only for the rich folks that that don't care about us. There's poverty everywhere. Not only Africa. The point here is, in order to build Africa, we Africans need to change our mindset and wrong narratives been fed to us. I feel comfortable in Africa. We respect the outsiders in Africa but in USA, I deal with racism at work, out shopping with my kids, my name, hair, and accent will not give me certain jobs here in USA. I fear for me and my kids life here with all the gun violence everyday. I feel safer in Africa, my American wife and interracial kid are comfortable every time we visit. Which is why we are planning on moving back. I used to think like Jeffery until I came to USA myself. It's not all gold and silver overseas. In USA people judge you for basically every single thing if you are black. Even being an interracial couple, people give me sh*t all the time, or will say go back to where you came from. So many ignorance over here. If we all run away from the continent, then we're loosing, we're putting a dent to our economy while boosting the ones that don't like us. I get it, working a minimum in USA or UK might seem like a lot, but if one thinks about generations to come, one should probably go build wealth in ones home land. Also if anyone is speaking with emotions and less facts is Jeffery. We've been using Gold and knew the value of it. The "white man" didn't show us. He needs to research and feed his mind with the right tools.

[@sweetbadd9852]

Kay is such an intelligent young man. I like how he put his points across.

[@chriszugu8422]

Teach the Children the truth. Most grown adults is stuck in their mindset. Unfortunately the same leaders he complaining about in Ghana has the same selfish first mindset as him. That's why their main goal in politics is to take and most Gahanian will do the same if they were in that position.

[@beckyannfrederick2650]

Kay, you know your history, that's why you know your destination. That guy in the black T-shirt is very ignorant of the fact, so sad he doesn't get it. I leave in NY and can't wait to get out. He needs to open his eyes to what goes on in America....poor guy

[@kwasimorgan8162]

Then why are you still there Why don’t you move tomorrow some of you talk like you are the wise but on the real you are not .

[@audreylee1076]

Kay debates is correct. I wish Africa would setup their system to make life better for the poor....

[@linameeswanson8897]

Awesome interview! PLEASE continue tge conversation...perhaps a movement will be inspired!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@CaribbeanLife2023]

Wow! This interview was incredible. Very educational & informative!❤🙏🏾

[@Zidla1962]

Wonderful content

[@geraldineblair388]

Good both have points

[@AuntieCheri]

How do we deal with hardened in ignorance, mixed with despair would be the question I think.

[@terrelmensa4373]

Facts

[@lordm.a114]

The Kay guy is incredible and more intelligent ..I love his mindset ..❤❤Best guy ever

[@damoahzenith1771]

Very interesting conversation. Tho I support both ideas, I’m 💯 for Jeffery. The system in Africa isn’t working unlike Europe and America (tho they have their own challenges). I know it’s a process and we will get there but we are moving at a slower pace as a continent because of poor leadership. For most Africans it’s not about who brought civilization but who is still living up to it. Africans still live in the past and forgets to forge forward. I believe what Diasporans should do is to help hold our leaders accountable more than we want reparations. Because even if reparations are given these same corrupt leaders will embezzle it all. Again, I believe that once we are waiting for this change to materialize, the African should take the least opportunity legally presented to travel and work abroad earn something to feed his /her family, build a nice house, create employment opportunities back home and employ some youths. And for those saying it’s not always about money. I’m here to tell you that you are all LIARS who are covering the truth. There is joy in waking up and not thinking of what to eat. Think about that. Thank you. Shalom

[@myrnajames1460]

K, please tell him the health care the road ect. None of it is free we pay for it through our nose plus, plus, plus.

[@wendyoduro9433]

If Taxes were implemented, it will be shared among the government ministers and will not be used to build and maintain Ghanaian infrastructure

[@RootedDiasporans]

Yes. We need to take control with what’s ours. Kay, you spoke very well. To add: African countries need to invest heavily in their military! All the giants of the world feel they have the final say because on reason is, their military is strong. Where does the military strength stand of African countries compared to the west? I wish we could look into that a bit more.

[@deeharp]

I think they need military for security persons but they don't need to invest like the west does. Humanity is moving out of the take what's yours for my benefit era. Africa needs to understand they already have what they need. They don't need to go to the united states or europe. Those are countries built on taking from Africa. Now Africa needs to Keep what is theirs, and make them pay the full market rate for anything the west gets. Now because the west only Knows Oppression and taking things through Violence. There will be wars and Conflict because that is the only thing they know. Unfortunately it will most like take world war 3 because the west has zero interest in a fair deal. The only fair they understand is we get everything and you get the scraps. We just have to stop falling for the okey doke, on this leader is bad because they won't give us everything we want.

[@cindywebb9786]

Kay is100% schooling Jeffrey who desperately needs to brush up on western history both past and present in regards to Africa. He seems to be so hardheaded and will most likely have to learn the hard way. Westerners have sold Jeffrey a dream which he will learn is really a sugar-coated nightmare.

[@EightyFour-s3z]

No he wasn’t. Kay was just script-repeating.

[@sasbridgecloserstudent]

​​@@EightyFour-s3z I am sure that 'script reading' will stay in the mind of the one who did not know. When you begin to realize you were told lies about your people and your history, a person may become more curious and do more research to find out what actually happened. And this can lead to realizing we are not as helpless and things are not as hopeless as we thought.

[@adeniyialale4291]

Jeffery sounds like me 14 years ago before I started traveling, and Kay sounds like me 5 years ago after 9 years abroad 😢😭😥😫😩

[@Hyacinth-t6e]

My brother this Young people have to change their minds they don't know how people in The West work harder than they think

[@sheila8644]

That's a lie this young man don't know history, he needs to be taught history, he sound unlearn, he will be taught a lesson soon

[@Tefera-hf8fw]

There are loads of drop outs in the UK

[@AuntieCheri]

No offense, but this guy in the black T-shirt’s ancestors were probably selling my ancestors straight to the white man every chance he got for mirrors and beads.

[@kwasimorgan8162]

Do you know him ? How much did he sell your ancestors ? Some of you need to think

[@AuntieCheri]

@@kwasimorgan8162 Even though we see things differently thank you for responding. May you earn more love money and health than you ever dreamed possible in 2023 and beyond.

[@theonly6359]

Thats possible

[@balamadoumbe3400]

​​@@kwasimorgan8162By the way he cheerfully declares that white people brought us mirrors, made us discover gold. This proves that if this happens he will probably do the same thing again. You know what defines a man is his mind because you can't be different from your thinking. I don't judge Jeffrey but I hope that he was merely giving his points.

[@balamadoumbe3400]

​​@@kwasimorgan8162I don't believe this s*t story told by our detractors that they snatched the ancestors with simple mirrors. They know why they said that.

[@patriciamorris7245]

People suffering all over, we can build the Ghana together. Why take our talents to other countries that dont like us anyways?

[@EightyFour-s3z]

They pay better

[@kwameutd7500]

Salary better

[@berkamp9832]

Everyone in the world thinks about their family first, once you reach a Middle Class or higher middle, then you can benefit your community, how will you benefit yourself if you are a taxi driver?

[@tanzanadian]

Learning a lot through this video! Much appreciate🙏🏽 great conversation

[@fistandpen2505]

Jeff is a contrarian but he's making equally good points. Diaspora think in terms of vision. Local folks think in terms of daily bread. There's truth in BOTH. Daily bread will make you want to leave (because you can't worry of future if you die today) but vision is essential for a liberated future (after you eat :)). Kay is talking about "we", not recognizing that a lot of local folks have been talking about "we" since independence - BUT there is also a "they" in most African countries, which is the political elite that doesn't give two damns about "we". This is also a reality.

[@antonkidd7935]

Very powerful conversation. Priceless African perspective. Thank you. Thank you

[@tmobiletemp9832]

You go brother kay .Preach.

[@enobishop1419]

This is great to see and hear. The conversation is start of the change in progress... there are many truths... and it is inspiring to see consciousness evolve before my eyes. The shared knowledge is powerful. I hear the similarities in the dream. Systemic oppression is real. Change is happening and the world knows much more of the truth We all can make a difference. Change starts with the individual within Respect - love the conversation We are a global community 🔥 ❤ 🔥 Respect

[@mandeg7540]

The cost of living now in UK with a job. You get taxed alot of it. Don't even pay the rent food etc

[@Kofi.86]

We need a a part 2 I have learn a lot from the video

[@1andOnlyJDauntless]

I make it my soul mission to never miss any of your videos, but I cannot in good conscience give Jeffrey a third wave of my attention. Jeffrey mentally separates himself from the suffering of other people around the world. Jeffrey continues to tell us how to get money from the white man, but he has no strategy how to fuel the economy of Africa WITHOUT the white man's aid. Look at Bola Ahmed Tinubu and his economic strategy. Sounds a lot like Jeffrey. Men that only focus on money, do not care about the suffering of others. In fact, "caring" is their disguise. I guarantee you that Jeffrey uses his disguises as leverage against others. As someone heavily invested into these financial markets, I know this disguises/games all too well.

[@evereadyfall4150]

We need part two. This was excellent raw and real !!! I’m a diasporan moving back home after decades. HOME …. AFRICA is AND WILL always BE BEST !!

[@TwixmanDaProducer]

Ships were built in nubia way before the Moors. Moors sold us out. the Tru Afrikan eg Nubian had ships that were so big with living quarters. Dont play with the Afrikan

[@beckyannfrederick2650]

Homeless people all over the streets In America, at least in Gana, you can own your property, and its all yours

[@mjivory410]

BUT,__is it Really **all Yours** ???

[@jerrycostanza4180]

​@@mjivory410yea it is, most africans have been sitting on land since europeans came to the continent. Africans are lazy that's all

[@KV45355]

Anyone can take it away finders keepers 😂

[@88Don]

We have to put just as much faith in us as we do in the Europeans how can you believe in someone else without believing in yourself 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ like you said bro that’s just the reality of us as Africans / African Americans

[@emiliahellstrom3869]

Continue ur program to learn and heal😊.

[@LifelessonsWithfamily]

My goodness such wisdom from kay God please continue to use him to be his neighbors keeper and to give him wisdom to teach those young men and women bless him and his beautiful family ❣️🙏💯 I just love to watch there videos the Jeffrey Guy is a fool no wisdom just rubbish mindset

[@princesstown73]

Interesting and thought provoking conversation, I’ll be visiting Ghana soon but to see what opportunities are there for business

[@petertosh8275]

Jeffrey even wants youths to go and learn American accent and thinks that now he speaks like American. What a bomboclaat he is.

[@kelugu3776]

😂😂😂

[@traceyeffah4251]

🤣🤣

[@ibrahimYODA-qk1ng]

😂

[@timothyossei-berkoh9775]

Living in Ghana's economy is not easy. I've experienced it!

[@NickNadine]

This video is so informative. We are new subscribers after watching many enlightened episodes this week, and I we are now considering investing our hard earned money into making Africa greater…I am excited to see what fruits this new outlook will bring forth❤! Why not?

[@niinarhalbertnoye2486]

❤ I enjoyed watching this... wish to add my contribution some time soon

[@sks7438]

Its unfortunate and unexcusable to not fix the roads if Ghanaians pay taxes. Where is the money going? Resources from Africa are exploited and provided to the West. Where is the money going? African people need to build together. Who allowed the Europeans to come and expolit the land? Know your worth and work together. Leave if you have to then come back and pull your people up. The West intices people with money but it can be a trap.

[@georgeamoh5726]

This is a great education Africans must know, essentially the youth

[@emmanuelachoyin4395]

Please where is he going to make 80,000 UK British Pounds Sterling, only 3% of people make that, including the white people(there are only 3% black people in the UK, so the likelihood to earn £80,000 is extremely low) about 0.005% most black ppl are suffering here. Before you make that kind of money from business, you have to be generating at least £140,000 a year, which is very hard to do, and even if you get that money from a job, you will must likely have to have experience of about 7/8 + years in your field and you'll still be taxed at 45%. The UK was a lot easier to migrate to in the 90s, 00s and 10s, but they have made it very hard to migrate to nowadays. If you dont have a legal immigration status just forget it. Newly arrived immigrants are suffering in the UK, to the point that many are just going back to Africa.

[@kwameutd7500]

This is a lie but go off

[@veezy1821]

I just witnessed the most powerful conversation I’ve seen in a long time. 1st time in Ghana so I could relate to both sides of the debate.

[@cicelysoulsojourn0101]

When you don’t know, you don’t know…

[@mellobee204]

Kay...articulation, poise, knowledge & thought. Well done, I respect your patience! Jeffrey, £80,000 wages in UK, for teaching as you did in China? Are 6ou trained in other areas to command such a wage? Range Rover costs over £100k, plus shipping!! So you will live the life overseas & leave your wife & children in Ghana? Reality young man, please We NEED the 'other'? Please!!! P.s planes to all parts of African are majority filled of the 'other'. I've travelled to (only) 5 African countries, multiple times, I'm speaking from experience (& of other friends & family) Ask yourself why! & you, Mr. WebNation 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾AGAIN!!

[@YouStillNeedToSleep]

If life is hard with on child, why do you have 5 children?? Oh i forget. They don't think in advance. Family pressure says you should have more kids and you do it. Then complain how hard life it. Isn't that the common problem?? In U.S. if you can't provide for your child, the government will take the child from you for foster care/adoption!!! Parents get arrested for child neglect all the time!!!

[@tmobiletemp9832]

Really Hot debate

[@Ahiyti-23]

Kay well done to you. One thing for sure you will never change this guy mindset he has a different outlook from you. Let him be. But well done in trying to help people to see what Africa has to offer, which I know it has alot to offer. But also I would just like to correct one thing you said about Christians/ Christianity. Our forefathers were not called Christians. They were called The way. It was none believers who called them by that name,Christians and gave them Christianity.

[@apologetiquesinvestigations]

^_^ The word "Christian" was already in the Bible in the Book of Acts ( Acts 11:26 and Acts 26:28) and in the letters of Paul and Peter ( 2 Cor. 11:3 & 1 Peter 4:16) also the oldest Bible in the World is the Ethiopian Bible Christianity was already in Africa in the first century way before Europeans accept the black Messiah ( in the fourth century) and they changed the drawing for a white messiah ! The word Christian came from Christ of Jesus-Christ, disciple of Jesus-Christ or a disciple of The Way, Jesus-Christ is The Way (John 14:6)!

[@naturespeaks9967]

I enjoyed the conversation, I think both brothers had valid points, depending on the mindset of the individual who is face with either situations, I also feel that the diaspora could be of benefit to Ghana and Africa if people were more transparent and honest,ore businesses could be developed and more jobs could be created. I have issues doing business with few people in Ghana which I had to draw the line never to do anything with them again due to a lack of trust and transparency. So if Ghanaians were looking at the bigger picture and deal with customers and diaspora better they would benefit and wouldn't have to sell their land to come to UK so the main problem is the mind set oooo

[@tmobiletemp9832]

For the black children lets build

[@Missforexcharts]

wow educate him,u shut him down to be honest,i myself have learned a lot ,i live in UK too ,planning on going back soon

[@damoahzenith1771]

These conversations should be on every media outlet. What Jeffrey is saying is not far from the truth. Kay keeps talking about mindsets and mentality without tackling the system. My question is, how possible is it to have a right mentality in a malfunctioned system? Let’s say I want to get into agriculture as a youth in Africa. I have no access to loans, machinery, support etc unlike elsewhere. Again I want to be a web developer or software engineer but I have no access to electricity or internet. Look at the football pitches we have on the continent, in some places there are no pitches to nurture these bright talents on. Whiles some average players in the West are earning more than these untapped talents in Africa These are but a few. See how frustrating these scenarios are?

[@loriannrichardson7644]

On Webnation I've watched Black and Jamaicans, European diaspora who went to Africa with very little who are now thriving. It is mindset.

[@kwasimorgan8162]

@@loriannrichardson7644the little you are talking about How many citizens of Ghanaians have that little to start business

[@UniquePathWellness]

You’re right, the opportunities doesn’t always exist for the talents in the community unlike the UK or the US. The solution is that the Diasporan has to continue to give back and work with the municipalities. It’s a known fact that in countries where the Diasporan is involved, the communities do better. But people in the community have to also have the mindset to want to work with the diaspora which sometimes means allowing them to lead projects and not try to undermine or sabotage the efforts.

[@ngozionyeyiri8094]

My young guy with British assent you're talking sence thank God for people like you

[@sheila8644]

He is stock in his own ways and it matter what you say to him it will not change his mind,even if he read history for himself he still will not change, he is brain washed

[@kelugu3776]

And that's o.k. There are three types of people in this world - those who find happiness in material things, those who find it in spiritual things, and those who are somewhere in-between. Great nations are built by those who place the spiritual over the material. Jeffery ridiculed Nkrumah's efforts because he can't understand why someone would put his desire for freedom and self determination above material happiness. I hope that as he grows older and he acquires all the wealth he thinks will make him happy, he starts to appreciate that money and possessions don't give you peace of mind.