Obscure Vocaloids!

[@ethanc2408]

About your comment on Gachapoid being maybe marketed to children, Yamaha sells “VOCALOID For Education” that utilizes VY1 to teach elementary to middle school children music theory and singing, it’s utilized in quite a few schools in Japan and has a very simplified vocaloid editor

[@WeebaLu]

Oohhh I see! Okay, that makes more sense. I was thinking parents were supposed to buy an overly complicated music editor for a small child! 😂 That's really cool though, I'm sure there's future Vocaloid producers in the works in classes like that!

[@sucrose2083]

Don’t forget that CUL’s name can translate to “Ass” in french.

[@SimplyMariposa]

it also means “simple” according to the translation app😅

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

yeah she has an ass name

[@hawaiidkw1]

As I've followed Vocaloid for over a decade, seeing a once incredibly wonderful, vibrant, colorful phenomenon dwindle to almost nothing (the weekly rankings dropped "Vocaloid" ages ago), one hard truth has become clear to me, and, more than anything, explains why so few Vocaloids have enjoyed any real success. A producer does not buy a Vocaloid to add beauty or creativity to the world. A producer buys a Vocaloid to _become a success._ That means giving a predominantly Japanese pop audience what they want, and, as we've seen with pop fandoms worldwide, that has a pretty small range. They don't want cartoony children's show voices, they don't want Enka, they don't want any twang whatsoever, they _definitely_ don't want womanly, and male singers, _forget it._ (You could've very easily added Arsloid and Zola Project to the list.) Nowadays it's gotten so bad that even Vocaloids who were anything but obscure in the past are practically unknown now. I'll give you a few names: Lily. Iroha. VY1. VY2. Galaco. Mayu. Una. Yuki.

[@skeouspace]

i see these vocaloids used very often among vocaloid producers currently, i think the loss of popularity for many of these vocaloids were as a result of, as you mentioned, how vsynth content has sort of faded into obscurity and how crypton's vocaloids are currently the only ones that newer vsynth fans are typically familiar with

[@whatever5401]

this is very true

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

very true, I've followed Vocaloid for about the same amount of time as you and knew some knowledge of each of the mentioned vocaloids in the video. I feel like the very last true {in vibes) vocaloid was Dex and Diana in my taste at least.

[@harunatsu6756]

Yeah, yeah, the only fricking thing they want is "moe"-type voices! 😤 And nothing else!

[@Hoami_Miruka]

i think gachapoid was made to create child songs also..HE IS SO ADORABLE HE NEEDS MORE LOVE! he has amazing vocals

[@nana_lol]

He's a baby

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@nana_lol Theirs a webseries where he is the song of Gumi an Gakupo it is pure internet AIDS an its wonderful Gakupo when ask does he love his son "Despite the fact he roams around the house at 4AM eating all my printer paper I actually do"

[@nana_lol]

@@senritsujumpsuit6021 what's the name of it

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@nana_lol adventures of gakupo & gachapoid

[@Sinc3r3ly]

Speaking of VOCALOIDs that sound like each other.. some people say Unity Chan is underrated but she. Literally sounds just like RANA. And since RANA has a cuter design I prefer her more. Sure Unity’s design is unique but not really *iconic* yknow? Also I don’t think RANA is unpopular but I wish there were more covers with her

[@WeebaLu]

I have to agree that she definitely does sound like a slightly higher pitched Rana. I like Unity-Chan as a mascot, of course, but Rana is way cuter and way more iconic to me! I think the main reason Rana doesn't have as many covers, despite being originally a V3 Vocaloid, was that you could only purchase her V3 by buying an entire magazine series dedicated to Rana's release.

[@kittymations6509]

I feel like Ruby is very underrated. She's my favorite female vocaloid- she has a fantastic voice and an amazing design, and I absolutely love her. YuzukeKira uses her, and she sounds perfect in their songs, like Unbreakable and Games. She's the most obscure out of any of the PowerFX vocaloids, and it breaks my heart to not see her included in headcanons or projects involving the PowerFX vocaloids being a family unit.

[@lumiose0]

I’m noticing a pattern with Yamaha where they just drop a vb with zero marketing or posts about it and then be like ‘well we did our job, let’s hope they sell well’ only for them to sell like complete shit which sucks cause a lot of my favourite Vocaloids are pretty obscure like Haruno Sora, Mo Qingxian, Lumi, Arsloid, Yumemi Nemu etc. Great video! I hope some of these Vocaloids can get a bit more attention from others (especially Mirai cause I adore Mirai and I’m pissed that no one gave a shit about her)

[@Lady_ETHNE]

Hello there :)

[@lumiose0]

@@Lady_ETHNE Hi ^_^

[@whatever5401]

And when one of their voicebanks actually get attention and become well-known, that voicebank has almost zero original song because Yamaha gave said voicebank a shitty licensing rule that forces producers to purchase some stupid license before they can profit from their songs with said voicebank. Can you tell who I'm referring to here?

[@lumiose0]

@@whatever5401 Definitely (god damn it Fukase)

[@whatever5401]

@@lumiose0 as a Fukase stan, I can't help but think of what he could've been every time I look at him. I can't help but imagine how many and what original songs he could've had if Yamaha weren't out of their minds. He could've been a big success, he could've been used by big producers, he could've even appeared in concerts, but none of that can become true thanks to Yamaha. There's also the fact that his voice provider hated recording the voice samples which mean he won't be getting an update any time soon

[@AluminumAllium]

My favorite vocaloids are Anon and Kanon! I wonder if they’re considered obscure as I never see anyone ever talk about them?

[@rosequartz4708]

I love Cyber Diva and Sweet Ann. Sad that everyone thinks Sweet Ann's V2 cover is scary.

[@heartroll8719]

Look at her Taiwanese design, it’s so much cuter.

[@SonicStalker123]

There’s a project diva mod of Chika on KZbin! It looks really cute! Mirai’s voice is really good sounding ^^

[@manoa5512]

I feel kinda cool for knowing them all 😼 Btw, what do you think about the private vocaloids? Like akikoloid, king and chuchu? 👀

[@Onyx765]

She talked about them in her vid on unreleased Vocaloids. Kinda sucks that Akikoloid was never released commercially :/

[@Lady_ETHNE]

Gachapoid: *Exists* Me: what has humanity come to?

[@SourSalty]

Fukase is popular. Lmao in fact he's a part of a real time fandub project. And yes we use Talkaloid personalities and some actual personality traits given in the game like how Miku has DID in project Sekai. Or how KAITO doesn't like MEIKO's coffee. But those are used in game.

[@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun]

​@@undertale-perseverance I I think they meant how there are multiple different versions of miku???? But then again there are different versions of all the vsynths across all the sekais??? So it doesn't really make sense?? 🤷‍♂️ idk

[@heartroll8719]

A company should promote a voicebank and get hype. I have started using Synth V, and there are some Chinese voicebanks (Getting AI voicebanks to sing in 3 languages) makes me hyped. Like, I want to pay for that and hearing something to get me excited. Due to seeing/hearing it, I want to try using it.

[@RinneAmagisDefenseAttorney]

sachiko is literally one of my favorites along with ia, tone rion, aoki lapis, and my main favorite gakupo. i not only love sachiko and gakupo covers because i love their voice banks, but they both sound amazing together. like literally covers with them give me life. but I found vocaloid literally in 2022 from maretu. i wanted to branch out and see everything vocaloid had to offer and then found sachiko. i really hope she can be used more in recent songs and covers!

[@tiffany-chan1235]

Haruno Sora and SACHIKO will always be one of my favourite underrated vocaloids

[@phantom8856]

you should have added kokomi! she is so underated NOONE talks about her. I’ve been playing too much genshin, i met kokone

[@Browniedays]

I think the problem of Yamaha is that they did too many voices that are not unique anymore and instead there are many sounding like already existence voicebanks that give better results than them. Only a few of them really got kinda popular, like Otomachi Una and her Spice Voicebank that covered up her Sugar Voicebank, Yuzuki Yukari manage to get popular although the doesn't have much to offer either but now she is a CeVIO, and Fukase is just being used got talkloids making of him a very gay and mean cross dresser that makes V-Flower's life a hell.

[@whatever5401]

I really want to know how many original songs Fukase could've gotten if he didn't have a shitty license

[@magicalpasta5462]

My favorite underrated vocaloid is Sonika, she looks like a an older sister of Gumi and my introduction to vocaloid with her song. "Creepy Song."

[@Yashikofi_cosplay]

I gotta say, when I heard a cover for The Tailor of Enbizaka with Chika's voicebank, I immediately fell in love with her voice, and thanks for mentioning her, she's a queen❤

[@whatever5401]

Off-topic but I wonder how many original songs Fukase would've had if he didn't have a shitty license

[@whatever5401]

@@redredred01 ikr! I would say he has one of the most recognizable and distinct voices. it's a shame he doesn't have many original songs

[@dedf1shsimp386]

Fun fact: mew is my mom’s favorite Vocaloid

[@AluminumAllium]

Cool! Mew’s design is so cool!!

[@13thReDUX]

i love using chika so much she’s so cute and very firm

[@thesadisticskitty]

Mew is legit one of my top 5 favourite Vocaloids. I hope to use her one day. I have plans for a Hyperdontia cover with her, but I just can't get her to install properly. Maybe when I get my new computer.

[@utisic.Slay_banana]

I hope you do, I think it would be very good

[@gryficowa]

I only recently found out that the green one is a human version of a dinosaur, I find his voice quite cute and I have a weakness for weird voices (Especially in Vocaloids), but seriously, it was quite abstract

[@moose3471]

I really love your content! Got into your videos recently with the vocaloid tuning video keep up the great work!

[@jfiera4965]

Those are pretty nice choices for obscure voices. And I hope get will get more love. So what is your thoughts on Piko or Sonika ?

[@WeebaLu]

Piko is very unique and very cute! Sonika? Hm...I like her design, very cute design, but I just don't like her voice at all...

[@jfiera4965]

@@WeebaLu True, Piko is a very unique. Mostly for the sound and design that inspired my Utau ! Sonika is pretty cool, but it hard to understand her english at some points.

[@15_heidune72]

Since Rosa's coming out soon as a SynthV, maybe her elder sister, Cul, would get some promotional materials?

[@ikerquinteroaviles2294]

I come from the future, she didnt

[@15_heidune72]

@@ikerquinteroaviles2294 sad

[@konakona1001]

As someone who knows every single vocaloid. I didn’t even know who RUBY was until now!

[@Bluefever.]

I feel like Gachapoid would have a better use for joke songs or joke covers in my opinion, but that’s probably cuz I listened to the Jelf the Elf song and “Project GACHAPOID”

[@gryficowa]

"Rotten rotten zombie" This is an original Cul and Gumi song

[@WeebaLu]

I keep forgetting that has Cul in it 😅

[@saffrox7650]

I'm a bit of a namco obsessed weirdo so like a lot of their stuff I love mirai, I really wish she had more of a lifespan but it seems that I have to live with what we have and this one skeleton orchestra and lila cover I really like

[@Micebetweenthepeople]

Other obscure vocaloids? Anon & Kanon, Tone Rion, Yumemi Nemu, Arsloid..

[@mikubrot]

I really hope Mew gets more love at some point

[@xDeydeyxtartelette]

I've been watching a few of your Vocaloid videos for a while now and I wonder why aren't you using sound clips? It would help you prove your point so much better and would make the videos even more entertaining!

[@WeebaLu]

I'd love to but it's mainly copyright issues and permissions from the Vocaloid producers that prevent me. I don't feel right taking a Vocaloid song from an unknown/smaller producer even though I credit them heavily, mostly as some Vocaloid producers don't like when Western fans discuss/upload content with their work. As well as major copyright issues in the past. I've had only 5 seconds of a song for a video and it ended up getting blocked either worldwide or limited to only a few countries. As I want my videos to viewable and respectful to other creators, I'm afraid I often can't showcase the music :(

[@poopinsock5049]

chika has the same birthday as me XD

[@bettyharajuku2803]

bruh nooo i love CULs voice shes so powerful ;-;

[@hachijuhachip]

im proud to say that i know all of these and have used some of them

[@Aysenur-mq8mu]

my fav is chikaa

[@ookamitadashiotaku8571]

sachiko does sounds more like gackpo to me in a vocaloid HC I think of them related like cousins.

[@bunnychu15]

Gachapoid is so cute!

[@dwayneasher6765]

I love the video

[@marcus_cole_2]

WeebaLu: serious question, what software do you need to truly make vocaloid MMD music videos I'd really appreciate a list because I want to get into this I've been a fan of vocaloid for 4 years now and I want to take my hand and make my my own videos with famous models and voices Can you do a tutorial on appropriate software one paid one free... Love your work thank you very much

[@evetaleebrai3124]

I loved Mew in dixie flatlands song stella

[@canaryqueen4050]

Ni no kuni has a remastered Who is this Exciting

[@yuno5763]

what about kizuna akari? :D

[@WeebaLu]

I suppose so! I think if I made a second video, I would definitely include her. :)

[@yuno5763]

@@WeebaLu AHH THAT WOULD BE NEAT! big fan of your content btw :,D

[@Micebetweenthepeople]

I think she is not really that obscure, there are many much more obscure vocaloids. I like her.

[@SourSalty]

CUL's name means butt in french. Oof

[@jennygholson]

I love your video 💄❤️

[@MelCMlol]

The fact ik all of theese

[@kiara16]

Maybe you should know some bad film from myanimelist

[@urnotl0r0s]

“obscure vocaloids” and tonio, leon, lola and prima aren’t even mentioned.

[@WeebaLu]

I know lol I wanted to get as obscure as I possibly could.

[@takumidoutou4412]

Funilly enough I think Chika sounds a lot like Gumi and Mirai sounds nothing like Rin. also heres a good Chika song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q362k52ndrx4esk

[@WeebaLu]

That's such an adorable song! For me, I don't really notice that Chika sounds like Gumi. Especially when she hits her higher notes, she sounds...well...like her voice provider lol

[@takumidoutou4412]

@@WeebaLu I never think any vocaloid sounds 1to1 but Sometimes I just kinda get Chika and Gumi mixed up I think higher pitch Chika veers differently tho

[@takumidoutou4412]

So I def agree in that way.

[@takumidoutou4412]

If there was more people using her I’d probably be able to pick up all the more subtle differences in their voices

[@applejack77778]

What are you playing Project Diva on? Looks like the game's drunk.

[@WeebaLu]

PS4 but I don't have a capture card so I used the record feature on the PS4. However, I recently bought Project Diva Future Tone on PC so my footage looks a LOT better now!

[@applejack77778]

@@WeebaLu Nice