Weebill Lab - More Thoughts After 3 Weeks

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More of my personal opinions on the new Weebill. One thing I cut out from the video is that sometimes people might operate the gimbal with the axis lock on, especially on the tilt axis. I know couple of people who told me about it, and I have definitely done that. That does give you a horrible side to side jerky movement, and Zhiyun now has an updated firmware out that warns you on the OLED screen if you accidently leave one of the axis locks on.
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[@therealjimmy5411]

Dude not a comment about this video but about your channel in general. Your setup and presentation is perfect and honest and the fx at 1:06 WOW so cool! Why doesn't this channel have a million followers, people are missing out!

[@SePark]

Wow, thanks James! Really appreciate that. KZbin algorithm is not easy when you first start out. I'm here to keep making more KZbin videos. Goal is to reach 2020 subscribers by 2020. Thanks for watching! 🙏🙏

[@m0nztam0nk]

what a slick blend in of the iphone-screen... subbed 4 that alone!

[@racephotography-sd5141]

How do you only have 800 subscribers....... you should have at least 800,000. Love the review and how the videos was edited and your personality during them.

[@SePark]

I was hoping for 1000 first but thank you so much for that encouraging words. Really appreciate that!

[@OLuvin]

Thanks for this update! Gave me hope again as I was turned away from all the bad reviews showing the constant jitters! Hopefully it improves to finally get my first gimbal for my a6500

[@jazziesillona]

I like your review! I find it entertaining and comfortable to watch 😄 Im still torn between Weebill Lab and Crane Plus. My setup is Sony a6300 with Sigma 30mm and Kit Lens. If I get the Crane Plus I can buy another lens since it only costs half the price of the Weebill. But Weebill is new and travel friendly, but Im still worried about the issues, mainly the jitter because the purpose of buying a gimbal is to lessen the time from post production by adding the warp stabilizer.

[@SePark]

Thanks Jazzie! Much appreciate it! You're right. Cost is going to be a huge consideration too. If you're not traveling every week cramming a gimbal in your bookbag, sounds like Crane Plus is a better purchase for you especially if you need another lens. Your setup is light too so Weebill won't deliver anything more than the Crane Plus. (Sigma 30 mm weighs 265 g) This coming year, I plan on traveling to different cities filming with just one book bag so I'm staying with the Weebill. Otherwise I would have kept my Crane v2. 😁

[@lukass2006]

Really clear and honest. I can also see you made an extra effort with motion graphics. Best of luck, I hope you get lots of subscribers!

[@SePark]

Thanks Lukini! Appreciate your comment! Let's go 2019!

[@Ryan_Schlutz]

Thank for for the follow of video. Was great to see the side by side. Holy smokes that alone makes me was to trade up. Really enjoy your style and look forward to future reviews. Glad your kiddo is doing better.

[@SePark]

Hey Ryan! Glad you stopped by. Had to live up to what I said. Thanks for suggesting about the side by side comparison! 😀

[@StephenJReid]

Great videos on this gimbal. I think too many have dismissed it too easy. Ordered this with the follow focus to use as an ultra lightweight cinematic setup with my A7iii and vintage primes. I’ll review that setup on my channel at some point.

[@SePark]

Thanks Stephen! That would be a sweet setup! You're right, yes this gimbal has some little flaws but by knowing how to work around them, this is a powerful tool! No gimbal just like a camera is ever going to be perfect.

[@StephenJReid]

Se Park Thanks. I’ll do a preview and review of it on my channel when I’ve gotten it all setup. I’ve found that Vintage Canon FD primes are brilliant for cinematic look. Quality is a good as entry level cine primes, they are cheaper and super light.

[@SePark]

@@StephenJReid I would love to see that. Just subbed to your channel. You got some really interesting topics on your channel. Way to go man!

[@StephenJReid]

Se Park Thanks very much! Means a lot coming from someone who is producing good content. 😊

[@mauibuilder1239]

Smallrig developed Arca and Monfrotto COUNTERWEIGHT mounting plates for the Weebill Lab for use with heavier lenses: www.smallrig.com/smallrig-counterweight-mounting-plate-arca-type-for-zhiyun-weebill-lab-gimbal-2283.html

[@stevofoo]

Hi Se Park, Nice video again, thank you very much for the info. I am a photographer and trying to get into filming. I want to grab a gimble , the Lab is definitely a good choice, I find in only it sold for around 200 US dollars in Australia, or 350 for the Weebill Lab ( both Second hand), I wondered if the lab version will hold tamron 28-75 with a7 iii? or I need to go for the S version? The used Lab here is really cheap :)

[@SePark]

Hi Steve! I hear ya! The Weebill Lab price is hard to ignore. The Tamron 28-75 with the A7 III will work on the Lab if you balance it at 28mm. I used that exact setup for multiple shoots all day for event filming. The problem is you won't be able to balance it at 75mm. I'm more of a wide-shot gimbal kind of a guy so that's not an issue for me. Weebill S of course can handle the 28-75 mm at 75mm much more easily. If you don't plan on buying heavier lenses for next two years, I say go with the Weebill Lab. I know people complain about the wobbles, but once you get used to it, and with some setting tweaks, you can get fantastic shots. If you are a long focal length gimbal kind of a guy, and if you plan on getting some heavier lenses, then Weebill S would be the way to go. Hope that helps a little. Thanks for watching. Your views makes a huge difference.

[@unwind4373]

Hii! Ii loved you video and your sense of Humour! It’s been 6 months since this review. I am new to videography and i love making travel videos. Therefore due to the small size and people raving about this gimbal, i bought it last week. As expected the footage is very shaky. Are you still experiencing the same? Or you have already sold the gimbal. Have you been able to find any solutions to make the footage stable?

[@SePark]

Hi!!! Thank you so much for that comment. It's funny someone just asked me a similar question on my most recent video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZiZhJ2OrNCVf8k I love my Weebill. I gotten used to which moves causes it to jerk and cause wobbles. Overall it gives me very smooth shots. That video I just uploaded to KZbin, I didn't do any post stabilization. It's slowed down 50%, but it's straight out of the camera and the Weebill. I'll try to make a gimbal tutorial video one day on how I like to balance my gimbal and how I walk to create those smooth shots. Thanks for watching!!

[@rnoerachmad]

16-35mm f/2.8 GM was make me very frustrating for balance this gimbal. Crane3 would be better but I don't like the size, it's bulky. Then i contacted the Smallrig how to make it balance... Yes it should be adding a counterweight 200gr under the camera, a 200gr and a 100gr more at right side gimbal. It said worked well

[@chipchorps]

Subscribed!ü very informative, this video helped me regarding the steady shot being disabled while connected with the cable. I am wondering how we can utilize the features like adjust the ISO and so on from the weebill? And the record button? How about a non steady shot lenses..? I hope I can have time playing with the settings from the app. Again many thanks!

[@DJAnamaly]

Great follow up review and funny ending.

[@SePark]

Thanks DJ! Appreciate you watching it!

[@istulover]

Oh please do a tutorial on how you edit your videos! The tech window was soooooo dope !

[@SePark]

Thanks. I'll add it to my topic list. Good to have a nice long list. I'll never run out of things to talk about on KZbin! 😁

[@ShaneDavacPhotography]

So the Sony loses IBIS, does OSS still help? Is this the case with all control of Sony camera with Zhiyun. I’m currently looking for a gimbal for my a6500 + sigma 35mm f1.4 + sony 18-105mm f4 but unsure between the crane plus and weebil. Will be mainly used for business promotional videos and fun automotive gathering shoots. Any suggestions?

[@brianmimura5430]

Great review Se. really? The weebill doesn’t pan in underslung mode? You have to rotate your wrist to redirect? No other reviews i watched said this!

[@SePark]

Thanks Brian!! Even now after having this gimbal for almost 8 months, it is not easy to pull off an orbital move with the Weebill under-slung. Crane shot with a monopod on the other hand, this gimbal is best at it since it's so short and light. 😁

[@mackopr]

Questions: 1) Which camera you use? 2) Which lens? 3)Do you recommend using the control cable and loosing SteadyShot, or otherwise?

[@SePark]

Hi Elisamuel! I used my Sony A7 III with 16-35 mm G Master F2.8 and Zeiss 35 mm F1.8 prime. To me I rather have SteadyShot and lose the cable. I can see the screen on my A7 III fine so I haven't found much need for the phone mount either. Just saw your Weebill shots on your channel. You got some good smooth shots out of them! :)

[@mackopr]

Se Park thanks bro. Please subscribe, im trying to do it more often. My setup is the Sony a6500 with the Sony G 18-105.

[@olegvorkunov5400]

Personally me, after one month of use WL, I gave up on connecting it to camera. Too much of a delay connecting and not fast enough for me to start an action. Instead, I programed Custom button 2 on my A6500 for Movie Mode. Now, when I found out it disables Steady shot, I will never connect A6500 in RemotePC mode.

[@TheShiblings]

That wedding reception venue looks like 2941.. Are you in the DMV area?

[@SePark]

Small world right? :) Yes. Beautiful venue!

[@markshirley01]

There's so much choice in gimbals is difficult to make a decision. I travel on planes quite a bit so like to carry my gear on carry on. The weebill looked at first but now I've watched a few reviews it looks a bit of a hassle to set up and use.

[@erbsl99]

One question remain - is the stabilizing performance as good as the Zhiyune 2 PLUS? Or Moza Aircross?

[@SePark]

On the stabilizing performance alone, no. That's the sacrifice for the size, but if you don't push the gimbal hard and careful on the feet, it can be a good tool for travel videography.

[@erbsl99]

@@SePark Thank You!!!

[@RichardNashIV]

Nice videos! You've got a good sense of humor and present the info well. I'm trying to decide on my first gimbal, kinda stuck between Weebill Lab or Crane 2. Weebill seems to have a lot of next level features, mainly the portability and the locks, but Crane 2 seems smoother. Since I'm not used to operating a gimbal, do you think Weebill or Crane 2 would be easier to manage? I have a Sony A7iii. Recently Crane 2 w/ follow focus was $500 on sale, while Weebill is $600...something to consider as well.

[@SePark]

Richard Nash thanks! If smoothest footage is the most important to you, then I would get the Crane 2 in your case. If you need to put a gimbal in a book bag to travel, then you would sacrifice the smoother footage and get the Weebill. If you are familiar with Warp Stabilizer, then Weebill will work as slow motion and post production will get rid of minor shakes. If you have 500 grams or lighter lenses like the F2 28mm prime then Weebill is fine. Heavier lenses is not the ideal for Weebill if this is your first gimbal. I know I didn’t directly point you in one direction but so many things to consider. :)

[@RichardNashIV]

@@SePark Damn, still a hard choice. I think ideally I would have both - the size and portability of the Weebill would probably benefit me the majority of the time as I would probably be throwing it into my backpack for day outings.... but occasionally I'll do some work that I'd prefer more stability. I wish there was an easier way to test this stuff in hand instead of scouring through youtube vids for footage :)

[@markdjolly]

@@RichardNashIV I'm in the exact same boat... I think I'm veering towards the weebil lab. I think another factor is how much gimbal footage you intend to use with your videos. With our True Food TV work I wouldn't want to overuse it - I think that's when limitations of the gimbal might become more obvious.

[@whittonmatt]

Subbed.. nice delivery 👍

[@SePark]

Thanks man! Appreciate you!! Welcome to the club!

[@whittonmatt]

Weevil s looks amazing.. Australia will have to wait longer 😣done your review?

[@SePark]

@@whittonmatt I know right?! I just got confirmation that mine is in the mail. It's coming from Zhiyun China so hopefully I get it soon enough. 😁 As soon as I get it, I'll do an initial review and couple followup videos.

[@whittonmatt]

@@SePark Not if I get mine first :)..Amazingly Austalia has em already..should be here next Monday...looks sensational..thanks dude..still look forward to your review and content..thanks

[@AndrewLXiong]

Thanks for the review...was debating between this gimbal or the Moza Air 2, still undecided but definitely leaning toward more compact gimbal

[@SePark]

Thanks for watching Andrew! I just had two more wedding shoots where I used the Weebill extensively. The ease of setup on this definitely helped me get shots I may have missed with a different gimbal. The separate axis lock allows you to change the lens and balance very fast. Something else to keep in mind ;)

[@MASKalpha]

​@@SePark But doesnt the Moza Air 2 have an axis lock too for balancing ? Plus, the long battery life makes me think its more powerful than the Weebill, especially when adding a cage, matte box and follow focus. I'm in the same dillema... Do you know wich is the most compatible with Panasonic?

[@SePark]

@@MASKalpha if you are adding a cage especially on a GH5 then you'll run out of space to properly balance it. Moza Air is much bigger and heavier than the Weebill. I wouldn't put them in the same class. Moza Air's competitor would be the Ronin S. If you don't need to fit your gimbal in a bookbag all the time, I would go with the Moza Air 2. Hope that helps!

[@MASKalpha]

@@SeParkYes! Thanks a lot!

[@vilaxayrathahao]

Hi. When I go in to edit the saved setting, I realized that the smoothness setting for the pan axis revert back to 45. Does this happen to you as well? All other settings stay as saved though.

[@ninay7685]

hi from France...I am lost, weebill, crane plus, crane v2, ronin s....I am with gh5. I think in travel I don't need gimbal. but for my small movies, event like weeding, I need it. can you help me (sorry for my French English lol)

[@larrylim]

Well done with the review, keen to get my hands on one. What prime lens would you recommend using for A7iii with Weebill Lab?

[@SePark]

Thanks man! I would recommend Sony FE 28mm F2. One of my favorite lenses even before the Weebill even. 35 mm F1.4 is nice too but it's not as multipurpose as the 28mm since it's not wide enough. I plan on doing a best lens for A7 III series video this year so stay tuned!

[@glitchlife4639]

Did you ever try the time lapse feature on the Weebill with the ZY play app? I have heard some sony users have problems with it

[@SePark]

When I tried it, it would skip couple shots sometimes. I haven't tried it with the latest app update 2.6.4. I'll try it again on my next Vlog season. :)

[@nalxs]

btw i found a way to use weebill with peak design's capture clip standard plate. the solution is promediagear pm501 clamp. works perfect with sony a6500 though the thumb screw gets quite close to the motor but it doesn't touch

[@SePark]

How in the world did you find that! That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! I might try that.

[@nalxs]

@@SePark Unfortunately, after a few days of use, I realized that the promediagear plate cannot be fixed tight enough by the weebill clamp. it slightly moves. don't know which part isn't precise enough. what a shame.

[@minhnguyenle5230]

I have seen many KZbin Reviews with jittery Video Footage and many Commentsabout sending the Weebill Lab back. Have you experience some of the issues?

[@whittonmatt]

Using A7iii with tamron 24-75. Haven’t pulled the trigger on WL yet.. I see in comments there’s a new one on the way??

[@SePark]

Hi! matt! Yes. It’s confirmed! It’s Weebill S. So far looking really promising on the specs and features. I will try to get one and review it to compare. 🤙

[@whittonmatt]

@@SePark is it out? Probably good time to get Weebil Lab cheaper I'd say...pretty sure it would be good enough for my purposes with A7iii..Look forward to your review

[@SePark]

They are announcing at the end of the week. Most likely pre order first then it will be in stock. Weebill Lab is getting so much cheaper it hurts 😅

[@whittonmatt]

@@SePark cool thanks...will wait n see how much the new ones are but not having tried the weebil lab it looks quite capable..cheers...keep up the good work..I enjoy your content..well delivered

[@YourLocalGuatemalan]

wow there seems to be so many poorly implemented design choices, i'll stick with my v2! great update btw

[@YourLocalGuatemalan]

teach me how to shoot some weddings though

[@SePark]

@@YourLocalGuatemalan thanks man! Wedding is just a massive video that combines all types of videography. Stick around, and I'll go over all types of videgraphy on my channel! 😁

[@YourLocalGuatemalan]

Se Park subbed

[@poko4296]

know it it can't be so good like I saw all this movies on YT. I like it's small and can control aperture etc. with Sony A7iii I got crane 2 but don't rly like it. You think the ronin-s is best of that 3 gimbals?

[@SePark]

I would put Weebill in its own category since it's so small. I work with a guy with a Ronin-S, and every time he changes his lens, he has to calibrate it. That and the heavy eight of the Ronin-S is a "no" for me, but just like cameras, "best" is define by the user's "need". If I had the budget, I would have a Crane 2 and Weebill for different purposes. :)

[@poko4296]

@@SePark YEah but why zhiyun lying so much customers the motors are so streng and can handle 3kg setup. Peoples can feeling cheating :/

[@poko4296]

Thanks for your movie

[@SePark]

@@poko4296 agree. These companies have to be careful with their marketing. It's important to make good products but manage the customer expectations well too. Promise less and over deliver... Sony and DJI does that well in my opinion.

[@ragoaj]

Is there a way with Sony to still use in-cam stabilization when connected to the Weebill?

[@LWJCarroll]

Great video and info thanks...which MOB was that Android or Apple??? Hence which App?? Thanks Laurie

[@SePark]

Thanks for that comment! That was Apple iPhone with ZY Play App version 2.6.1 that was release 1 week ago.

[@theFATEfactory]

Ohhhhh! Big fan of Vu... and you lol!!! Another great video and review! Sick graphics too! Id definitely love to collab with you guys 🙌🏽🎥🙏🏽 Let me know if you’re ever in need of a 3rd shooter 😅 Cheers!!

[@SePark]

Haha that's awesome you know both of us! It's even a smaller world when it comes to small KZbin channels. If you are ever visiting the Washington DC area, hit me up. I plan to make more KZbin videos than wedding videos on 2019 but always looking to be a second shooter too. Hope your business is going well and good luck to you in 2019!

[@markshirley01]

Are you still using it Se. Im looking at putting a RP and a 35 RF on it. `Total 790 gm

[@SePark]

Hey Mark! You went with a Canon? Haha, yeh I'm still using the Weebill heavily and plan on keep using it. Just shot a wedding with it and I'm going on a cruise next month. This would be the only gimbal I could bring comfortably. It will easily handle 790 gm. It just takes getting used to. I learned couple new Weebill moves that I will share on my channel soon! I think it's still an awesome gimbal.

[@mmafightingforreal]

Hi do you know if the weebill lab works with an eos 77d from canon?

[@thomaspattison1631]

Can you balance Sony Zv1 on Weebil lab or on weebil S? Thank you

[@SePark]

Hi Peter, yes I did do a light weight test on Weebill S since it's a very powerful gimbal, and it held the RX100 VA without the motor freaking out. RX100 VA is 299 grams and ZV1 is 294 grams, so should be fine. Weebill Lab has much weaker motor and holds smaller cameras just fine. Hope that info helps!

[@thomaspattison1631]

Thanks man. You are my new favourite youtuber. I watched all your videos in one day 😃. I would be grateful if you could share your motor settings on weebil S to gain cinematic footage. Tha ks in advance. Cheers

[@SePark]

@@thomaspattison1631 that's so awesome! Thank you! For the Weebill S setting, I am actually using the default setting from the latest 1.97 firware since that firmware movement is on the soft side. The biggest thing for me usually is on the deadzone setting. If you find your gimbal jerking around side to side, you want to increase the deadzone setting so it's not too sensitive. Also the newest firmware, if you auto tune, you'll find that it virbrates when you tilt the gimbal down. For that issue, you will need to lower the tilt power manually down to about 25-30 depending on your rig's weight. Hope that helps, and thanks so much for your support on this channel!

[@63MacGuy]

Did I hear it right? The IBIS does NOT work on the A6500 or A7lll when the camera is plugged into the gimbal.

[@SePark]

Correct. It turns it off since you have to turn on the PC Remote setting to have full control and image transmission. I just don't plug it in and just control the camera directly and view the LCD directly.

[@63MacGuy]

Se Park. thanks! I guess that’s why my footage has changed using my Mova Air

[@nicolasbv7091]

you deserve 100k subsribers at least...

[@azrifirdaus8250]

when i turn on my weebill lab, there is an "X" sign in the display, what should i do? the gimbal doesnt start. thankyou

[@SePark]

Well Azri, since your gimbal is so new, you should be able to get support and exchange it if it's broken. I don't usually do this, but I Googled it and the consensus is that people had to return it when they saw the "X" sign.

[@colourberry]

Get some threadlock glue and that 1/4 20 screw wont come out again. Or superglue perhaps.

[@eddiearcilla]

What desk do you have?

[@SePark]

First desk question!!! The desk is from IKEA. I got it about 15 years ago so they don't sell this model anymore. Sometimes IKEA makes some good quality stuff!

[@onejourney]

🎬 1 🎥 📽 🎞 🗣 🎙 🧐 Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing. 🌎🌍🌏 Good teacher, ✅✅✅✅✅ Can this Gimble be used for Vlogging❓

[@SePark]

Thanks so much! That's also a great question. It does have a feature where if you tap the trigger three times, it faces you. Let me try it on some of my next vlogs. I wonder if it will handle an extremely light camera like RX100.

[@BCPaulVideoProd]

"Weebill Wobble" :D

[@Deatarus51]

“Red knuckle mode” hahahahaha, I got fat hands, that’s the mode I use

[@SePark]

David... LOL! I ended up buying a skinnier lighter handle. 😁

[@Deatarus51]

Between the time I posted that and now, I decided I’m returning mine ): I just ordered a Crane 3. I’m using an A7III with 24mm 1.4 GM + ND filters, and it’s too jittery. My crane plus can handle that load out no problem, but the Weebill has a nervous jitter. Balanced perfectly, latest firmware, experimented with multiple settings, and I’m a decent operator. I’m hoping the crane 3 fares better.

[@SePark]

@@Deatarus51 haha that was quick! Crane 3 is all muscle so I'm sure it will handle that setup. I took a lot of compromises with my Weebill. I'm looking forward to their next Weebill successor. It's either going to be called Gimbal S or Weebill S. Hopefully it comes out this fall.

[@Deatarus51]

@@SePark Yeah, saw a teaser on that, I'm excited to see what they come up with. I really like Zhiyun as a brand.

[@rickvestuto]

Sony a6400

[@chuck90504]

This gimbal is not smooth enough. Great innovation, too bad it has major flaws, theoretically a great product

[@rc3designs]

What motor power settings would you recommend on the crane v2 with a Sony A7III and a Ziess 24-70 f4?

[@SePark]

Hi Roy, I don't have a Zeiss 24-70 F4 so I can't confirm for sure, but that's a 426 gram lens. It's probably going to push the crane v2 motors if you want to be super smooth. This is one of the reasons why I got the Weebill so I have some headroom. Even then Crane v2 is a great gimbal especially paired with some light lenses.

[@rc3designs]

Thanks for getting back to me. Yeah the Weebill Lab is perking my interest.

[@olegvorkunov5400]

Guess it is A6400

[@CosminRotaru]

Good choice not to include a music track this time! The other video made me tired 🙂

[@SePark]

Cosmin Rotaru haha I was such a nuub KZbinr. LOL. It’s gotten little better these days 😁

[@CosminRotaru]

@@SePark nah, there's nothing else to complain about 😁 Subscribed!

[@SePark]

Cosmin Rotaru haha thank you! Each year I’m getting better at making these videos. Much appreciated!

[@TeohEH]

I thought I was going crazy thinking most shot I saw from this gimbal looks shaky. LOL

[@SePark]

Haha, you were not alone!

[@ehnjae3031]

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