Helle Nying - DO NOT USE THIS TO SHARPEN YOUR KNIVES

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[@haden2846]

Went to Murray's Sharpening school and also intensive knife making. Learned a ton. Enjoy your work. thanks, Haden

[@bradleynewbury314]

The steel Helle uses on their knives is pretty interesting usually on a lot of their knives its laminated stainless steels and in some cases the core of the blade is a high carbon steel, which makes the blade hard and good edge retention but is a pain when you do need to sharpen!! Fun fact lol

[@poppypicker3863]

That came out amazing! I can't wait to see it in person. Thanks for everything Kyle and for filming the process. I am planning on refinishing the handle. Just a little sanding and a good soak in some linseed oil. I work as a guitar repair tech, so good call on the micro bevel. She will be used. Thanks again buddy Darryl

[@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE]

Helle seem to focus on the blade usability. There finish on handles etc isn't always great. But that being said. If they put the time into finishing the handle it would cost double the price. We get a good balance. Most are not bothered by the finish. Those that are can easily finish it in an hour or so.

[@thenorwegianmaker]

How on earth can a 15 min video on sharpening be so fascinating? I loved it! Thank you!

[@rockcityprepper9134]

The only thing those crappy sharpeners are good for are tools in the field like shovels or ferro rods. I don't use them because I have several things on me at any time to strike a ferro rod. I'm a chef so I hate cheap "sharpeners". Thanks for the great vids. Cheers

[@738polarbear]

They are not crap it is just that people use them wrongly .they are very useful for sharpening coarse edge tools..Knives ,no,farm and logging equipment yes.

[@lawrenceparker695]

I'm a saw filer 40 years , love your vid that is a sharp edge for sure.

[@allengarrow6295]

Just ordered this knife from ragweed! It’s an ugly lil bastard… apparently it’s one of Helle’s best sellers. Thank you again for sharing your craft, it has really helped me on sharpening knives correctly.

[@TheStreamingEnderman]

I love this lil' guy. You should get a Helle Kletten. I think you'll love it.

[@ChadMorgan709]

Beauty little knife. I can't believe I've never heard of them before. Very odd handle but looks like a very functional carving / gp knife. Dandy.

[@cj_m2477]

I love that knife. Great video too, you make it look so easy Kyle!

[@barra650]

2008 KLR 650, great motorcycle. I've done many offroad miles on mine down here in Australia.

[@brightargyle8950]

These knives are so bizarre looking to me, the handles look so wacky! I was so intrigued that I actually ordered 2 of the blades to make my own handles, at least my interpretation. I like the idea of a shorter handle, perhaps a bit fat for easy, sure gripping. A good scandi ground blade is a fantastic cutting tool if kept sharp. Good video.

[@jtscustomcutlery317]

Gosh I wish I had the patience for that. Knife looks amazing!

[@Imightberiding]

You can plainly see the similarities of this knife & the Mora Eldris (Sp?) I suspect this one was first.

[@kevinmorrice]

the nying was around long before the eldris, i believe the nying design is a semi historic design

[@Lurifaks707]

The nying has been a very common design in Norway, often referred to as a "tollekniv," meaning whittling knife, from norse.

[@TheKimjoh560]

A knife like this (I assume its a wood carving knife) needs to be razor sharp to work as intended. Whoever owns it needs to learn how to sharpen it himself because it will dull an hour or so of hard work. Basic sharpening skills using fine ceramic stone and a leather belt strop will keep it performing well pretty much forever.

[@richardturietta9455]

You are awesome. I am just getting into making knives, and your tips and methods are great, thank you so much...

[@HUZ9k3s5w]

I've had this model (of Helle Nying) since about 1982-3, so it not new. Only thing that has changed over the years is the sheath.

[@ared18t]

A cheap dmt file is one of the options only cost 10-13 dollars for a 600 grit or 1200 grit diamond plate

[@dalelong8001]

Very informative, Kyle! Thanks so much and best wishes!

[@TheAustralian1x]

Id say its not rounded at the back so the button works better with the sheath, just my guess

[@lorisb1513]

Kyle,never soak your Naniwa stones! They will crack at some point.But great result as always.

[@Cid_1]

Will you do a comparison video on the EZ-LAP DD8SF/F Diomond stones (or 2x6 stones though they might be a bit small) VS the DMT Diamond Stones? Would be very interesting to see your opinion on those,and if there is much difference in quality,probably the two brands that get the most hype of the diamond stones. I know you like your sand/wet paper and wet stones. But I trust your opinion more than many of the other people.

[@Cid_1]

Also would love to see you do some more Helle knives they got some amazing knives. And I'm sure a partner of Helle or themself would send you some.

[@dreadnought8363]

I have a victorinox scharpening “pen“ and it works quite well

[@alexanderflgesvold4823]

Heyheyhey! That's one of our traditional hunting knives up here in Norway! :D

[@wuhuuuish]

When you talk about your new stoneholder, it sounds a bit like bob ross came back ;-) Nice work, nice videos!

[@RaindanceBushcraft]

Wow. Niiice work. I have one of those 1000/6000 stones, but I’ve never gotten *that* nice a result. I may have to relegate one of my Moras to a sharpening practise knife.

[@markvincent4921]

I just got the Woodstock yesterday and I got spectacular results. I started on my diamond stones to reshape the bevel, looking at the bevel to see consistency from Apex to shoulder. (I plan to get the Naniwa 400 grit to sub) Then I do a few strokes on the Woodstock 1&6 maintaining the angle. Then I lighten pressure finishing. I then pull out the strop with the green paste and using the same angle I alternate 2 strokes per side about 10 times. When i do a hair test, all that is left is the skin. I would say it is about 18 dps on the bevel (the same as the Benchmade factory bevel.)

[@willc9235]

The 400 Naniwa is fine to soak but be careful with the 3000. Make sure you dry it evenly and slowly if you soak it.

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Hey Will! Yes, I know what you're talking about. I only drop them in right before I begin sharpening. And I remove them right after.

[@haden2846]

Curious if you have studied Murray Carter's freehand sharpening with water stone stones?

[@kyle_noseworthy]

I certainly have. I've mentioned him in several of my videos

[@michaelb.5345]

Where do you find your stones. Great learning video again. Thank you...

[@jbbolts]

you can find them on amazon....

[@kyle_noseworthy]

paulsfinest.com for my naniwa. Amazon for the woodstock

[@markashlock8058]

Kinda reminds me of the Mora Eldris...

[@Peteru69]

Which isn't so weird since they're both Scandinavian companies(Mora is Swedish, Helle is Norwegian) that have been around for decades and it's a pretty common shape around Scandinavia. The difference is quality. Mora definitely makes quality knives, but they're tools before collectibles.

[@jsj3464]

Brilliant video

[@garymaston472]

Nice carving knife.

[@Mr.Radiopants]

Neat little knife, kinda looks like the handle was cut off at some point.

[@Forestwalker111]

Not strange. Carving/edc What a beauty eh! You don't like big handles? Huh. Lol 😉 Great video as always my friend. Be well chum Craig

[@Sum4Seb]

That's a nice knife! The handle has definitely been replaced at some point but looks very close to the original. Good job as usual with the sharpening! See you in the next one 😎

[@retical6479]

K

[@tray22]

Sum4Seb pretty sure that is the original handle. Did some searches online and they all looked like this.

[@thegit8698]

It reminds me of the mora eldis, looks like what happens when you use the blade medic

[@kyle_noseworthy]

it does resemble the eldris! Or should we say, the Eldris looks like this one!

[@mohdzaudikhasni8829]

Awesome skills sharperning knife!

[@feralgrandad4429]

nice knife , i love my Helle's. Lovely sharpening job too :-)

[@pauldelaney6380]

Awesome job.

[@HackSawSees]

Don't blame the sharpener if the user is ignorant. Those scrapes tell me the user had no clue what they were doing, and would likely damage blades with almost any stone or device. The carbide cutters do a decent job when used correctly, and importantly do a very good job with serrated blades. Sure, there are better tools to use, but few so portable.

[@MegaTreblinka]

excellent job!

[@ep2659]

Thats a norwegian brand knife :)

[@joparsons20]

If someone was going to get 1 combo stone what would you recommend, trying to be a bit cheap

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Woodstock 1000/6000 stone, found on amazon. It is amazing.

[@afrog2666]

You should check out a Brusletto knife if you can, they`re muck better, the Helle knives are cheap, budget stuff..

[@afrog2666]

And fix your wobbly table! xD

[@afrog2666]

I`m still subbed though ;)

[@curlewpiper315]

I actually found that vid therapeutic

[@georgechan843]

did you said "naniwa" concerning wetstone?

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Yes I did!

[@georgechan843]

thank you.

[@georgechan843]

I am beginning the search for whetstone, like this ones in your colorful in your plastic container, do u have any brand or grit numbers that you can share with me? I have in Amazon Shine and Sharp #3000 - 8000 grit, I have Naniwa combi ceramic whetstone #1000-3000 grit qa-0124, which one are more effective? I use Lansky sharpener, this is the first time to be ordered to whetstone s.

[@jamesmiller360]

Nice job.

[@wallaceviviansadventures2095]

wow you sure can put a edge on a knife.i got a speedy sharp but after touching a knife i only used it to strike a ferro rod.i ruined a knife take care

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Yes, the'll do that Wallace! Too bad you had to lose a knife in the process! haha

[@andrewboraine7322]

enjoyed this vid

[@janivoutilainen2610]

And especially using scraper to a scandi :(

[@patriotrob7066]

Hell la not heli

[@derfusswandererfrank8566]

Not origine!!!!

[@ScottWorthington]

Looks like a puukko.

[@mercoid]

You hate knives

[@bradleynewbury314]

Those speedy sharp tools you flashed a picture of, might be horrible to sharpen a knife BUT if you ever get one, (they run about 7 bucks at Canadian tire) they are AMAZING for striking a ferro rod.... Cut it in half and drill a hole in the handle and put it on a lanyard and you got one great striker!!

[@Superbus753]

BradleyNewbury31 exactly what i use the speedy sharp for. I am kind of a knife nerd who always wants razor edges so at home i use naniwa professional stones 400, 1000, 5000, 10'000 grit and various strops. In field the spyderco double stuff and a small strop are great. For quick edge repair in field (chips) the fällkniven dc4 is quite good.

[@jbbolts]

Like any tool its the user that makes the difference... I personally have 2 of that exact same one .. If manage to just touch the edge with the weight of it or less I find you can do a fantastic touch up on an edge... of course if you stray you can put some serious scratches on the bevel very easily

[@garymaston472]

Nice carving knife.

[@candelamandela6067]

Really looking forward to your advice on field sharpening.

[@MrMikeyt65]

The blade shape reminds me of the Morakniv eldris

[@michaelandersen5453]

ferro rod should be struck on the non blade side. any moron who strikes a ferro rod with a blade should only be given a spoon to cut things. great vid love it.

[@lawrenceparker695]

Michael Andersen given a spoon to cut things I'm still laughing 😂

[@jbbolts]

You are one of the truly knowledgeable and capable knife sharpeners... thanks for the great videos they are really appreciated

[@bushcraftnorthof6012]

Would love to see you do a Swiss Army knife. Take care.

[@mikkeljylland9153]

I had a knife like that 30 years ago. I think I still have it in a box somewhere. Thanks for the tips.

[@zachfudge24]

It's like a classy mora eldris

[@allengarrow6295]

Nice! Very informative! I picked up a tips… thank you! I choke up on the tips a little with my Helle knives, seeing your technique will help tremendously!

[@darshankumardave7485]

I think you may already know this but I would like to point just in case you don't that it is not advisable to permasoak naniwa stones. They tend to crack as a result. Although you probably soaked them few minutes prior to sharpening which isn't a problem. The Woodstock (king) should be fine permasoaked though.

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Thanks Dave! Yes, I just put them in the water only a few minutes prior to sharpening. I never permasoak any stones :-)

[@CaptDavesSportfishing]

OH NO......that 'works best sharpening dude' has a whole youtube channel making claims that his little CARBIDE ''sharpener'', is some super gadget sold at gun shows etc.

[@TheNathan51503]

Nice restoration. Can you post a link for the stones you're using ? I've been getting good results with a worksharpguided tabletop sharpener but would like to invest in some nice stones

[@Uncle_Red]

And the stone holder please.

[@kyle_noseworthy]

paulsfinest.com since I live in canada. The stones are of the 'naniwa' brand, except for the combo stone which is a woodstock

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

Another good sharpening video, thanks.

[@paulmullins102]

the handle is to short dude

[@SurvivalRussia]

Good job Kyle :)

[@DrawbridgeProps]

Thanks for helping me get my blades sharp!!

[@SoerenGraves]

You Are The Best. I have a Nying to, that I have ment ro abody and it is almost ruined. I so not have your sharoening skills a consiser Just throwing it out as Toy Live in Canada and i in Denmark or I could Just ude it for practice - haha. Beauridul job Kyle. Love Toy sharing tips and tricks. Wish you a god day, Every day

[@p.e.i.man-canada-1372]

I detect a faint east coast accent.

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Newfoundland!

[@Thestripper1]

As a sharpening craftsperson I can see the pride in keeping the scandinavian grind flat. But for functioni there's nothing wrong with a little concave on them. In fact, that is the way it is usually ground in Scandinavia and has been for at least a century. Only new knives have that flat grind, then they usually get a small secondary bevel that is polished out to a small concave.

[@georgechan843]

You are marvelous! I have saw a few of your videos and I really like them. I am a amateur sharpener, I want to get your email so that I can download pictures for you, it regarding a few questions.

[@misolgit69]

Ive had one of these for over 20 yrs mine came in a type of wallet sheath originally designed to be carried in a jkt pocket I was led to believe that at one time this combination was known as a Grandfathers Knife 🤘🤔

[@georgechan843]

What about the Anself 3000-10000 grit whetstone, I can describe the greenish white pass? Shall I added on to the one I have?

[@cspalmisano]

I'm not into knife sharpening per se, but I could listen to you talk about this all day. Good stuff

[@MrMunki2]

I put a scandivex on that type of knife, hate those micros , but good focus and camerawork

[@cretan911]

Nice work. Looks like virtuovice taught you well.

[@1991tommygun]

You are defenitely from Newfoundland

[@ivanhamlyn4746]

Are the King water stones any good?

[@spoonsmith9506]

Hey Kyle, Do you use belt grinders at all? I find it to be incredibly quick and easy to sharpen anything with a good assortment of belts for my 1x30 belt grinder. I have a leather belt that makes quick stropping work that also polishes to a mirror finish.

[@kyle_noseworthy]

I only used power tools like a belt grinder for items with a lot of steel. Axes, large chisesl, etc. The cut too quickly for my knife sharpening. Too easy to destroy a knife

[@tacticalreviewer3802]

DO NOT SOAK THOSE NANIWA PROFESSIONAL STONES, THEY WILL CRACK.

[@111raybartlett]

Tactical Reviewer You mean permasoak right? In that case I agree should look it up to be sure

[@tacticalreviewer3802]

Ray Bartlett Naniwa professional stones are splash and go stones. Even minor soaking could make them crack because they are magnesia bonded. Do not soak period.

[@jbbolts]

yup thats what i've also observed... naniwa and shapton should not be soaked just splash n go unlike the king which can and should be perma-soaked

[@tacticalreviewer3802]

jbbolts I didn't know you could permasoak king stones without issues, Burrfection on KZbin attempted to sharpen on a permasoaked king and the 6k side felt terrible. I believe he said the 1k was still functional.

[@jbbolts]

do your own research for sure ...that's the consensus I came to after watching and reading quite a bit... keep in mind opinions do change... and as far as burrfection (and anyone else for that matter)... opinions do change and everyone is learning all the time... IMO the king drains pretty fast of water and even after being permasoaked it still need a splashes of water as I go along... it is my first and only "real" stone at the moment so keep that in mind :)

[@markvincent4921]

Getting similar results as you using the Woodstock. What do you do when you are done as far as cleaning to storing your stones?

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Drain the water and let em' dry! The next time I soak them for a sharpening, I give them a quick scrub with my 600 grit nagura stone to freshen them up

[@markvincent4921]

Sounds good. Thanks!

[@mrmalinois]

Pronounced :Hell-a not hell-i and nee-ing 😊

[@erlendnygard1506]

no its not this is a norwegian produced knife and are pronounced as it reads. you sweed...

[@haakonww]

Really nice job Bro!. All the best to you, from Norway 👌. Cool to see a norwegian knife find its way to your part of the world. BTW, was that the laminated steel from helle?.

[@bradleynewbury314]

Haakon Sandvik yeah it was the triple laminated stanless by the looks of it and the comment he made of it being hard...

[@kyle_noseworthy]

Yes, you could actually see the lamination up close!

[@illfaptothis333]

man.. i give up. i'm sending my knives to pros like you.