Weird HDMI Cable Types (You've Never Seen Before)

[@ThioJoe]

Correction: At 7:15 the standard HDMI connector is actually 13.9mm wide, not 19.3mm

[@Kris_M]

And at 10:39 I would say 2560x1440 @ 60 Hz is not more data than 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz

[@4lxAnd3r]

I was just about to say, well then the picture can't be to scale :P

[@fullmovies4852]

♥️

[@gipugly]

thank you for doing corrections

[@alternatenican]

0:10 if you lok closly you can see a cube at the top of th hdmi, and it can be turn into among us, that mean hdmi is sus!!!111!!!! 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 when the hdmi is sus!!111!!!! 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@ThioJoe]

I actually ordered a Type E cable for the video but Amazon lost the package so it didn't get here in time to include it 😡

[@pianopianist5709]

What do you mean by lost the package?

[@3katd]

@@pianopianist5709 Something probably happened to it

[@suchirghuwalewala]

I am pretty sure that means that amazon shipped it to the wrong place

[@WhirlwindQuest]

Lmao

[@paul8926]

Joe, I still haven’t received my purchase that I ordered a month ago from Amazon. Sometimes Amazon is a hit or miss on receiving items on time.

[@jacksontucker1425]

I think the algorithm has finally forgiven you because you pop up in my feed now

[@ThioJoe]

Good internet news 🥳

[@nationalcheeto]

yay! this happened to me too so yea probably

[@Dyl_Apple]

@@ThioJoe I have watched since the Turing an Xbox 360 into a PS4 video and I loved it and I’ve been subbed ever since

[@XtomJamesExtra]

Thio missed one thing about Dual-link HDMI. It wasn't just about dual layer transmission off of DVI, but a planned power over HDMI (POHDMI) setup for specific industries, most notably wired security cameras. At the time it was designed wireless security cameras weren't a big thing, and POE cameras had very limited bandwidth capabilities (we're talking pre-standard 10/100/1000 networking for POE, which at the time sacrificed bandwidth for power transmission over Cat-6 cabling). Dual-link HDMI was meant to be the answer, it could transmit 720 and 1080 resolutions while also having the ability to transmit power. Run one long HDMI cable and bam, you're done. There were even planned powered HDMI hubs using this format. Of course before it could roll out or even be broached as a manufacturing standard, POE caught up with Cat-7 and Cat-8. Cat-8 could be run to a single POE hub or switch, and Cat-7 could be run to the individual cameras.

[@tomikun8057]

Dual Link = You guys always act like you're better than me Everyone else: *looks away, avoiding eye contact*

[@nikkiofthevalley]

Lol

[@arr3business939]

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[@BITBITBIT-fd3gu]

r/ihadastroke

[@symphony137]

I don't get it

[@tomikun8057]

@@symphony137 google "you always act like you're better than me"

[@四季-i5k]

“Why would you need that kind of weird HDMI cable?” The Japanese: my goals are beyond your understanding

[@hifinerd5399]

I actually use dual-link DVI on my PC's monitors. Super cool to see this getting talked about!

[@Gold171]

love your pfp

[@muff1n36]

Only og’s remember when thiojoe pronounces his name wrong and also thio “finally got a haircut” joe

[@kenny-ph9dw]

Lol thingjane

[@thelittlethings-establishe245]

haha thing jing

[@speedracer123222]

The OG’s remember when he would make joke videos about downloading ram and gpu’s and about it supposedly working.

[@null-00000]

@@speedracer123222 those were the days

[@maelstorm370]

Hows it going guys, my name is ThioGeos

[@sebascarra]

Man, they even used Comic Sans in the official HDMI 1.0 Powerpoint slides. If they had added some WordArt, the graphic designer would have scored an A*.

[@TheWax70]

I use to use Dual Link DVI. At the time it was the only way to do 1080p at 120hz. Cool to hear there was a HDMI version.

[@rxgtv]

wow

[@SollowP]

One of the monitors I'm actually using right now has Dual Link DVI in. Though it's kinda useless since there's quite literally no GPUs being made with DVI outputs now anyway. And any kind of converters are expensive and even requires power. Glad it still has HDMI, but it can only do 1080p at 60Hz through the HDMI, unlike the 120Hz which the DVI can handle.

[@frogz]

@@SollowP displayport is a thing, it is literally cross compatible with dvi and hdmi

[@billcipher2769]

I love how ThioJoe keeps going. Never change.

[@nimalsingh3573]

Don't listen to today's hit

[@fattestallenalive7148]

well if he didnt chane he would have still been making fake video turorials like used to lol

[@dallasspitfire1780]

I actually use a dual link connector to DVI on a weird XP box I use for a cool music visualizer projector setup. I was surprised to see dual link referenced!

[@Trizic_]

I remember watching this channel YEARS ago. So nostalgic

[@excalibur2038]

We have a ton of the type e hdmi cables at the garage i work at, a ton of the gps units we have use them. like you said in the vid there mainly made in japan, we source them all from there anyway. Pretty cool old peice of tech if you ask me!

[@Qhm.mkh.79]

This is why I subscribed to this channel There is always something to learn besides having garbage on other videos.

[@symphony137]

What garbage are you talking about?

[@highfrequencyedm]

I'm glad your doing good videos these days. because I remember when you use to do a lot of "muck! with people" videos back in the day. keep it up dude

[@_SJ]

I've watched your old Flat Earth videos yesterday. I laughed so hard on the King Dome part 😂

[@jamesmatthews304]

Thio Joe has lot of very intelligent videos and he is a go to for everything and anything computer related totally worthwhile content!

[@butre.]

I was running 1920x1440 in 2002. it was a 21 inch crt, still the best monitor I ever owned, or at least it was til it caught fire around 2011 or so

[@joshuahulce5630]

i had a dell laptop in 2004 with a 1920x1200 15.4" screen. last used the machine in 2017 when i sold it.

[@jadentechie]

I always wait for your next video 😁

[@swyeetpodatoparticle]

Early Gang? Hi Thio!

[@suchirghuwalewala]

Early gang

[@SpaceRanger21]

Early gang

[@huseyinhealthh]

Early gang

[@nikkiofthevalley]

Early gang

[@rachard]

Early gang

[@davidadams421]

Hey, Joe, I took your advice and spoke almost exclusively about the HDMI standards at a recent party and ... IT WORKED!! Managed to score two dates and, what's more, both gave me a discount! 😁

[@TheGraphicsgriffin]

Great video and great info thanks a lot!

[@yodal_]

I worked on a product that used the HDMI Type E connector and we could buy the socket easily enough, but we basically couldn't find anyone who could supply us the cable. We ended up using a normal type A connector with a locking latch.

[@AdMilkB4]

I remember when he didn't have this much subscribers, coming back to it how it really surprised me🤣, am glad I came back though

[@pav787]

Very nice video. Good research!

[@inverse_of_zero]

your videos are very informative and educational! i'm glad i discovered your channel :)

[@icybaby210]

Love the videos always informative

[@AsifAAli]

I see a video by ThioJoe, and I click 👍🏽 ..as simple as that! 🙂

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

Make a tutorial on how to upgrade ps4 to ps5 with a straight face please

[@CarlosXPhone]

Straight face here. Hahaha. 😆 🤣 😂 😆

[@FrontierGD]

*trying so hard to not laugh* so... *pause* you do ***pause***

[@knection1986]

Thank you for the work you put into researching this video!!!

[@Listen-The-Holy-Quran-Recite]

Awesome Content Keep it up ❤❤❤😘😘😘

[@TechnologistAtWork]

Channel might have changed but that last bit of sarcasm about sharing this info at parties is exactly why I'm subbed.

[@carrotmaster8521]

lmao that powerpoint uses comic sans, love it

[@sage131]

i hate it so muhc

[@Milliardo5]

Great research Thio. Nice to learn something new each day.

[@FunctionGermany]

well researched 👌

[@memecentric2841]

Keep up the great content man !

[@stevenclark2188]

I swear I've seen an HDMI B plug somewhere, or I just saw a normal connector and it was wider than I remembered.

[@ytuser13082011]

You are good at research AND this video was a pleasure to watch. Please, post more of similar videos if you can and want :)

[@c.rosenfeld]

thanks for this video! you're videos are amazing!

[@theendofit]

a dual link hdmi 2.1 could get some pretty crazy stats and do alot maybe its time to bring it back. lol

[@florichi]

It really should, since the highest supported 2.1 resolutions are only possible with compression. 48Gbit/s over 19 pins is just too much already.

[@Atlas-yh6vg]

@@florichi yes please

[@yvesgysel9834]

Hi Thio. I loved it. Nice work. I learned a lot today. I even did not know about these 2 HDMI cables. Could You make a video about VGA cables please. Love your Channel

[@Quadrant33]

Thank you Thank you Thank you! I recently needed a video switcher for my new 4K UHD and had to throw out my old HDMI cables to get it to work. Now I know a little more about why.

[@laneye7669]

I'm so looking forward to sharing this information with all my friends

[@mikekollin4271]

Firstly, great job on your videos, very thorough and informative. I am so glad you made this video, I have searched many times HDMI type B. I was always Confused we have A C & D what happened to B? thank you for clearing this up, I can Finally sleep now.

[@clintsweet1322]

The company I work for sells the HDMI E cable. We use it in Motor Coach buses. The monitors, DVD players, and HDMI splitters in the buses are connected with these cables.

[@thefanman2912]

Love your videos man

[@diogor420]

Wow you videos are getting interesting!

[@PendelSteven]

9:02 still found in lower midrange laptops and above, quite a lot: 1920 x 1200. The basic.

[@kuplung22]

Nice video like always

[@ToastNova]

fun fact: DVI-D Dual Link also supported 1080p144 not only did it support crazy high resolutions albeit at a low refresh rate, it also did FULL HD at crazy high refresh rate in 1999

[@theonlybilge]

2:49 did you not immediately go the specifications? That seems like it could have made looking for info easier.

[@taxuanbach0908]

For the HDMI Type B, as ThioJoe mentioned, not actually any monitor reached these kinds of resolution then, and I also guess its kinds of capable resolution are later capable by the 1.4 version of Type A; C; D so the needs of Type B are no longer necessary.

[@KRich408]

When I purchased my Yukon it had a aftermarket DVD player with dual headrest monitors and a small black box that all the AV signals went to it has the Automotive HDMI connections for the Headrest monitors. I don't think they were OEM but more focused at higher end aftermarket ACCESSORIES

[@fps8786]

Cant wait to share this to a party that i might possibly be invited 😊

[@James-po6nr]

Really cool and interesting video 😊, the only place I could think you might have found HDMI B is the video event world, we tend to like to use the Funky connector of the world, in fact we still use a lot of DVI Dual-Link for a lot a video signals

[@funigurl72]

I just bought a soundbar and they're recommending an HDMI arc.... to avoid using the optical connection. I've never heard of that HDMI type. ???? I was hoping you'd address that. Great video, btw.

[@naeem8434]

Keep making these types of indetails videos.

[@oddball_the_blue]

Ahhh so this is how I can get Doom to play on my car stereo! For the record, I've got a Nissan X-Trail (T32) which sells in the USA as the Nissan Rogue and if you look for a second-hand stereo for it you can see the HDMI type-E connector on the back. Most likely, it's driving the display in the dashboard (it's got a smartphone sized screen between the rev and speed dials that shows nav, music and other car settings).

[@seancondon5572]

9:09 - to be fair, 1920x1200 would be an 8:5 (or 16:10) aspect ratio. While I'm sure such monitors exist (Final Fantasy XI has a 16:10 setting for the rendering aspect ratio), they must be fairly uncommon.

[@Nabeelco]

Fun fact, DVI signaling was based on analogue TV signals. So even though it's digital, It's not packetized data like you would have in other digital connections like Ethernet, USB, etc. It's literally a digital representation of an analogue TV signal, so poor connections can cause the same sort of artifacts you would get with a traditional TV signal, like static, snow, a rolling picture, or a picture that isn't lined up with the display properly.

[@victoramicci840]

Can you point me to the source of this information?

[@aaaaea9268]

I forgot that I was subscribed to this channel, KZbin finally remembered that too, great video tho.

[@ImAHamsterDude]

Nice video, keep it up

[@astroxxie]

I associate that raspberry pi probably has HDMI micro

[@separatedig9567]

1:45 it is also on the pi zero

[@ChrisOReilly]

Hey, 9 minutes after upload, earliest I've ever been

[@SolidSonicTH]

That's weird about those HD stats because I was definitely using a 1920x1080 monitor in college in 2009.

[@charleshines6155]

It gets a little weirder still. There is USB Type E also. Who knows how many other strange specs exist too? It would be interesting to see how deep the metaphorical "rabbit hole" goes!!

[@the_retag]

Yeah type usb-e seems to be a mobo connector

[@8bit-BlackCascadia]

Hey Joe just out of curiosity what kind of camera are you using for your streams? Those videos are super nice quality.

[@xaytana]

I'd be curious to see if the dual-link HDMI cable will eventually return for 32:9 displays. DVI-D SL to DVI-D DL was an increase of bandwidth of 1.7777x, though this was mostly for a larger display of the same aspect ratio. An apples to apples comparison of displays, the only change being the horizontal resolution, vertical resolutions and Hz matching, HDMI-SL on a 16:9 display would allow HDMI-DL to have the same performance on a 21:9, a 1.3125x increase, similarly an 18:9 display would be covered under the same performance with increased bandwidth idea. Assuming a modern HDMI-DL could bump the number up to 2x, we could see equivalent performance for dual-width 32:9 monitors, assuming a manufacturer ever produces a panel with equivalent performance to their 16:9 panels. This would be important if such a panel was pushing the boundary of the HDMI spec at 16:9, thus requiring two discrete cables to achieve the same performance on a 32:9 panel of the same specs. Though I wouldn't be surprised if this would be a niche implementation where every product that uses a newer HDMI-DL spec would have an adapter for a dual cable setup; but at the same time, HDMI-DL would have the benefit of devices recognizing each other as a single display, but this would also require the video-out device to be using the same connector for this QOL/EOU implementation. But, with everything going the way of piggybacking USB Type C, I doubt we'll see much changes in port design. Though a dual link Type C port would be pretty cool, especially for external PCIe uses, expand the x4 limitation to x8, which would make eGPUs more viable, rather than seeing proprietary ePCIe x8 links, like what Dell uses.

[@SlowMenThinking]

The only one I have not seen is the dual-link version! I use the standard micro and mini all the time (raspberry Pi's) a phone and a tablet had the mini and micro as well

[@codingstudio8865]

Please make a video on different IDE s for programming.

[@rufioh]

One thing I think you missed about Dual Link, is that with DVI, you can plug a SL plug into a DL socket. But from the looks of it, that would never have been possible with HDMI

[@sovietgergerd]

The aftermarket head unit in my Mazda has 2 HDMI type E ports. One is input so you could in theory connect a Nintendo switch dock or something like it and display it on the screen, and an output, so you could output whatever is on the screen to a different display; at least that's what I can assume as I haven't tried the output. However, the input does work when I used a Nintendo Switch dock and powered it from the 5v USB port from the back of the head unit and with a HDMI type E cable and selecting HDMI as the input, so that's cool! I'm sure with a cool custom 3D printed dock and more importantly a need to do so you could add a really nice Switch dock to your car if you have a head unit that supports it

[@ElPutihernandez]

well well well :)

[@ElPutihernandez]

thanks Joseph

[@muff1n36]

You commented before thio, noice

[@bobingabout]

I have a few things with a HDMI Mini connector, including my camcorder and the graphics card on my older PC (570 or something, it has 2 DVI ports, and a mini HDMI port), and a small screen that has a pair of Mini HDMI connectors. I also have a tablet with a Micro HDMI port on it too.

[@silasmayes7954]

I've seen the type D used been never referred to as HDMI. Pretty common I think in aftermarket stereos when hooking up backup cameras.

[@ColdSphinX]

In rack equipment (for example conference rooms, TV stations) there is often a Type A with an additional screw at the center of the flat side of the plug to lock it to the port very verry common.

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video tech talk lol

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

Hey, Theo!

[@elizabethann4721]

Great video no idea so many different variations of HDMI cables. Q: What cable would I use to transfer analog video with a PCIe firewire expansion card on a pc, to a dv input on the beta deck! (J-30SDI). Want a 60i video file which I could transcode to 60p. Wonder also what’s the max display resolution ... 1920 x 1200? Thanks for your videos I was just working on this now...

[@pimakpimak]

I was actually surprised to see 2 micro-hdmi ports on my raspberry pi 4 so I read the wiki page about that but this was way more entertaining and had more informations

[@KalabTempleman]

Am so early! Keep up the good work man

[@mrboojay]

This is so cool, had no idea about these connectors! I have one question though, given the numbers, how is 2560x1440 from HDMI 1.3 more data then the 2560x1600 or the more then 4K max of DVI-D Dual Link? I don’t think HDMI surpassed DVI until HDMI 1.4.

[@Hasan-fo3js]

Haven't watched this guys videos since I was 7 years old lol im 16 now this popped up in my feed

[@CielMC]

Oh my, Joe must the freaking funest kid at a party

[@mixerdude]

Can you please do a video on microsoft power automate desktop

[@cryingbagel]

I knew the purpose of the cord before he even said it lol

[@NetRolller3D]

Actually most 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 screens from the DVI era required dual-link cabling, and even some 1680x1050 ones wouldn't work on a single link. This is because DVI only required support for 165MHz TMDS links, with 330MHz being optional (HDMI requires both to be supported).

[@longtimber]

My first Motorola Android had type D. It was handy for business travel as I could hook up to the hotel TV and watch saved or streaming videos.

[@nissimtrifonov5314]

10:58 how is 2560x1440@60 better than 2560x1600@60?

[@tomikun8057]

Type E is the weird kid in class.

[@TheCrazyparrot8]

me

[@tomikun8057]

@@TheCrazyparrot8 too

[@pnnytx]

DisplayPort master race 😎

[@ryanwakebradtelle8682]

Can't forget about DVI it's got identical pins for HDMI except without audio

[@NetRolller3D]

The extra pins in HDMI are actually for CEC, audio is routed through the normal TMDS links. That means, you can actually pass audio through DVI if you fool the OS into believing that it's an HDMI port.

[@drescherjm]

At work I use and have used dual link dvi for with medical imaging monitors from the late 1990s. These had a resolution of 2.5K by 2K. at that time and were about $30K US for two 5MP (mega pixel) grayscale monitors and a graphics card to handle this resolution. I have not seen HDMI connectors for this application.

[@Z098]

Early 4k and many 8k TV's use 2 HDMI type-A connectors for input, so they basically used 2 standard instead of one Dual-link.

[@CostlyFiddle]

Funny you should say that, I am actually on my way to a party where I will dispense this newly glean information

[@lil_roach]

Joe be looking swole these days👌🏻😂

[@wills4109]

I’m just seeing this video. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the dual link hdmi is the connector used world wide on the XBOX360, maybe a modified version because av and component signals were supported as well as digital audio.

[@jceggbert5]

The HDMI/DVI cousinry is even more interesting nowadays. I have a GTX1650ti and a 4K TV on my desk and using a passive DVIHDMI adapter I can hook the TV up at 4k60hz to the DVI port.