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[@vraolet]

It's so insane to think how he genuinely believes that women are just some kind of metal that automatically switch to the manliest magnet around.

[@Some_Deist]

They kinda are Edit: I think I’ve trolled (for the most part) enough

[@doosin8696]

​@@Some_Deistno they really aren't (source: experience)

[@elizabethwojcik1620]

​@@Some_Deist No.

[@nitebreak]

@@Some_Deistnot really, most women i know like guys who are prettier

[@Ilivedbih]

​​@@Some_Deist Funnily enough we aren't, because generally we actually like pretty guys, rather than "omg he's so hairy 😍 look how masculine he is" lol. Macho men were really a type of my grandma's generation. Aemond (guy in your pfp) is pretty with long blonde hair, skinny not muscular, but he's liked by girls and has the most fanfics written in the HoTD fandom lol.

[@shanchan8247]

That he thinks the girl would fall out of love with her boyfriend for being less manly shows why he's single

[@alwaysyouramanda]

If it did feminize him at all, and she so happened to be on the pill-? Statistically, she’s more likely to find him even more attractive 😂😂😂

[@LDAR]

@@alwaysyouramanda wym

[@daivere6040]

@@LDARplan b

[@LDAR]

@@daivere6040 Birth control isn’t plan b, and also my question is why the person said she’d find him more attractive

[@deathkitten8611]

@@alwaysyouramandadumbest thing ive read inna while

[@PaletaJoe2]

Bro there were noticeable effects because they state thousands of dollars were spent in medical bills trying to determine what was wrong with him.

[@StallionStudios1234]

Yeah totally not cool. How ridiculous.

[@NickyYey]

Imagine paying to go to a hospital.

[@nate3231]

@@NickyYeyyou have to pay to take your car to a mechanic why wouldn’t you pay to go to a hospital?

[@theredhunter4997]

@@nate3231some countries have healthcare, so they pay very little to go to a doctor

[@RocafellaPlaza82]

I know what was wrong. *Beta Male*

[@Nopejams]

1. you can sue him. 2. you can press charges on him.

[@PingasFumberto]

If he has money

[@ror321]

Money cant always solve the effects something can have

[@nickybutton100]

@@ror321 No, but it might show the villain that he can't just get away with committing crimes.

[@drdoofenstock5559]

Yea it seemed like he was going to do something like that

[@Vasilia4]

​@@PingasFumbertoif he doesn't, he can rot in prison

[@the_absurd_hero]

It’s legitimately horrific that someone would mess with a colleague’s health-especially something as delicate as the endocrine system-like this. It’s not funny or admirable; it’s the epitome of envy, resentment, and hate. I really hope the victim doesn’t experience any long-term side effects

[@_b_e_a_n_s_]

exactly. I feel like everyone's joking about this a little too much and not taking the situation seriously when in reality this is horrifying

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

This looks like a plot from an NTR hentai manga.

[@VenusianLissette]

true. this story feels psychotic smh.

[@abaddon2148]

He most likely won't experience anything too bad for too long. Trans women usually need testosterone blockers for anything serious to happen in their transition. It for sure f'ed him up in the short term though.

[@DoGgYiE]

its concerning how people kinda just been joke bout shit the day it happens , its always been like that but this is next level. I cant imagine going through this just to see people doing bits.

[@AsclepiusHoe]

Some people say fiction is unrealistic, but then there's shid like this that makes you realise reality is wonkier than fiction

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

This looks like a plot from an NTR hentai manga.

[@xstoofpeer]

100%

[@JerseyMikes769]

As Stan Lee said the major difference between fiction and reality is fiction has to make sense.

[@Dice-Z]

"Life is always going to be stranger than fiction, because fiction has to be convincing, and life doesn't." - Some random dude who wrote books, probably

[@grunkleg.3110]

​@@JerseyMikes769It's because of this rule of writing that conspiracy theories pop up. Sometimes life refuses to make sense

[@gunpowdergelatine6358]

Is this not illegal? You know lacing somebody’s food with drugs, harmfully and knowingly?

[@a-goblin]

food tampering is illegal!

[@st.haborym]

Extremely illegal

[@vaykoden793]

Yeah it is literally poisoning someone.

[@kindagoodbeats7611]

Yes it is considered extremely malicious and I'm almost certain it's a felony as well

[@iloveplasticbottles]

It is illegal. He tampered with food (illegal) and he drugged someone (illegal)

[@afriendorfoe]

I feel like that should be considered poisoning and be charged for it

[@jakethepillowsnake5302]

This is just straight up evil. There's no excuse for drugging someone against their will. Dude belongs in prison.

[@jakewright6074]

Wait he's not in jail??? I haven't watched the whole vid yet but your practically roofying somebody with estrogen

[@Lucaz99]

It’s not just drugs either, it’s hormones. His body will still suffer from the effects of the 5 months of estrogen months maybe a year later

[@ForzAchilles]

Thanks for being the top comment and spoiling the story🙄

[@Lucaz99]

@@ForzAchilles you’re talking like it wasn’t on the thumbnail lol

[@Luchiinku]

Estrogen isn't a drug

[@sydney5887]

Im obsessed with Charlie's obsession with obsessed men.

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAM666]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@Vuuduu]

*Don't translate.…* *भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎*

[@VitaTheMerm]

Laer

[@malicekerendu3574]

😏👈 Smart

[@Alleg69]

woa

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

Not only does he have to deal with medical bills and complications, but now the band lost their vocalist (which will also dent them financially). That guy deserves to be arrested, it’s poisoning. Edit: Everyone criticizing their income is only proving my point. That sucks to have bad press like that on your band, expensive bills, and lose a vocalist

[@atheisticfront]

They had a new vocalist day of bro and I don't think they were even breaking even with $s. It was just a small local band.

[@dmys143]

Fuck the finances of it. Feed the dude his own balls so he can fuse his essence with the pinnacle of manliness. That way he can be manly enough to attract someone of his own.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

The band is so under the radar you can't even find their music front page on Google, especially not with this news having come out now. Ain't no way they're making enough money to handle those medical bills.

[@atheisticfront]

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Music isn't their job. They aren't in the scene to make money - they're a hardcore band. And the reason you can't find them anywhere is because they wiped themselves off the internet privated their accounts etc when people began to spread this story against their will because they knew people would be looking for them and they *didn't want that.*

[@Jenna2k]

Agreed. This isn't using science to improve someone's life this is poisoning.

[@starscream4812]

My thing is if he’s willing to do this to a “friend”, I’m scared what would happen if the girl got into a relationship with and hated that guy

[@user-zj3st9lu8j]

He'd probably prefer that because in his mind it gives him "more of a chance" with her. But since she actually loves her bf, the only play he had was to "demasculate" him to make her not love him anymore. Just plain ol' caveman brain.

[@NoppyOwO]

bro's just gonna make that girl lesbian tbh

[@brandonakers9827]

The funny thing is, someone trying to break up a relationship usually just strengthens it

[@Anana42]

My grandpa did this, we all knew it was happening, and when we finally talked to the girl she said exactly what we were thinking.

[@Rhyss4K]

If only that was true lmaoo

[@scoper7897]

charlie the best to speak about it when he just got yeeted by his ex gf ahahahahahahaha

[@FukaiKokoro]

The dudes mistake was not understanding usually if it is actual love it doesn't matter what they look like. So if his plan worked she would still love him. That's where people like this are totally DELULU

[@__-tp4tm]

Heavily depends. The right circumstances can absolutely destroy a relationship. Lies and deceptions aren't always as obvious as you'd wish it was.

[@lewlabelle]

The more people like this that he talks about, the more hope I have in myself because I am nothing like this

[@ThreeSheep69]

Estoy triste porque hoy es mi cumpleaños y no tuve ningun suscriptor ♥️♥️❤

[@stuartclarke2988]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@itsmytoast666]

​@@stuartclarke2988what?

[@rainydayz6429]

@@stuartclarke2988shut mouth now BOT

[@itsmytoast666]

I think Google Translate beefed your comment....

[@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery]

I just switched my birth control and the hormone change made me extremely depressed and i had ideations for a couple weeks as i adjusted. Im still depressed but not as bad as before. I was angry, irrational, i was not myself at all just bc my hormones were changed. Messing with hormones can be a recipe for disaster not just emotionally but physically too. I hope that guy and his woman are doing okay, and i hope Diego gets jail time.

[@AShatteredDragonsSpirit]

Can attest to this. I'm a trans man who had to quit T due to financial issues. I was on it for about 2 and a half years, I think? I had never felt so good about myself. As soon as I quit and the T fully got out of my system, I developed premenstrual dysphoria disorder (PMDD). Every month, it's an absolute battle with my already-dire mental health, because suicidal ideation just swings in full-force for a week. I'll be crying hysterically at the smallest things, or throwing objects around in blind fury. Bodies apparently do not like it when hormones are incorrectly messed with. All that being said, I hope that you're adjusting alright to your new treatment.

[@wicked5999]

@@AShatteredDragonsSpirit the state doesn't pay for T? Kinda nuts

[@AShatteredDragonsSpirit]

@@wicked5999 I'm British, currently on the waiting list to get NHS-funded HRT. The plan was to buy it privately while I wait, since it takes years, but then money got too tight. Just praying for an appointment to come quicker now.

[@wicked5999]

​@@AShatteredDragonsSpiritah, ok. Better than nothing I guess

[@sigmamale4147]

I am so confused why women take hormonal birth control. Its so trash and not worth it

[@user-tk6ms7jk6l]

Nashville does (in fact) NOT WELCOME HIM WITH OPEN ARMS

[@user-tk6ms7jk6l]

Okay so turns out I actually work with a dude that used to play with them and he said that the lead singer had always been super obsessed with the fiancée for months before any of this

[@CaitlintheFox]

Wilson County seconds this.

[@cintaminbunny]

People really think women only want an alpha male and personality or love has nothing to do with a relationship. Edit: if you read the replies be prepared to see a lot of angry people.

[@stuffystuffsityas6302]

It’s very very weird because looking at the ‘it’ boys from last year to now,, it’s an absolute no 💀 the girls don’t care too much about height, weight, physical strength etc most important shit is good hygiene, dressing well, and being a good person. “Any man can be a 7” is straight up true. It’s compatibility on the personality side that’s most important fs

[@MrJustapersn]

A lot of women these days like their men a little zesty. How he thought this was going to work is beyond me

[@cintaminbunny]

@@MrJustapersn well every woman is different and has different desires. I don't see "what a lot of women" have to do with this one lady and what she expects of her partner. I do agree that I don't get what he was thinking cuz any women would just encourage her husband to seek medical help if she felt he was having hormonal issues.

[@cintaminbunny]

@@stuffystuffsityas6302 tbh as ugly as Samuel l Jackson is I like the man's demeanor and everybody gets on JayZ but he still married Beyonce. Zac Efron is short, The guys in BTS are really cute but women love them, it's really not about being 6'5 super muscular and bossy. If you hold yourself a specific way and with respect as well as respect the people around you then you will get a woman who loves you. So many guys over complicate dating so much when a lot of women are taught right off the bat that before dating you need to work on yourself and love yourself.

[@MrJustapersn]

@@cintaminbunny you're missing my point entirely. This freak thought that making that guy "feminine" would make him less desirable as a man, when society and women in general don't view men this way

[@verde5738]

He didn't want to steal no girlfriend, he wanted to make one.

[@Volti-Vagra]

"if i cant get a girlfriend.... I'll just *craft* one!" sounds like some fringe anime/manga shit ngl

[@itselliexoxx]

The best girlfriend is the one you become yourself

[@verde5738]

@@Volti-Vagra Full Estrogen Alchemist

[@SadieThegoat-sr4fb]

Force fem

[@kushalchakrabarti240]

Bruh

[@reversalmushroom]

He should be in PRISON. What a psycho. I hope his victim can get fully fixed.

[@crc427]

People have such strange thought processes

[@juro7854]

This sounds like the plot to a South Park episode

[@robertnapier624]

If trey parker and matt stone stumble upon the story i think anyone can bet they’ll make an episode out of it.

[@stephaniedrendel6383]

Definitely Cartman energy.

[@Notfearjustexcitement]

That’s life

[@fortytimesdone5552]

this honestly makes so much sense

[@thecarsonist292]

Charlie seems to be obsessed with people who are obsessed I mean I’m obsessed with these videos as well so

[@Vuuduu]

Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎

[@Icewallowcome6]

I’m obsessed with these videos too

[@ThreeSheep69]

Estoy triste porque hoy es mi cumpleaños y no tuve ningun suscriptor ♥️♥️

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAM666]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@user-ec7lt1wc3l]

Obsessionception

[@BlitzinMackGaming]

Charlie said he thinks it probably didn't cause too much issues because they only found out because the guy admitted it. But he's forgetting where it said the guy had spent thousands at the doctor to figure out what was wrong. So obviously it was causing some changes. They simply meant they wouldn't have found out the band member was the one doing it with estrogen. Not that they didn't know SOMETHING was going on. What a horrible thing to do to someone. Creative as hell, but super messed up.

[@tonyjenssen4157]

Just another reason why free healthcare is better, you don’t cause yourself financial harm just by going to the doc

[@a-goblin]

just a correction + extra details: gynecomastia is breast growth, galactorrhea is breast milk production. you can have breasts without lactation, and lactation with barely any breasts. breast milk production in cis men can be caused by a prolactinoma, which is a growth on a specific part of the pituitary gland. also gynecomastia is pretty common, and can be treated. generally smaller breast tissue can be removed with keyhole mastectomy. i hope the guy recovers well.

[@leeexlouuu]

They can also produce breastmilk if they take certain medications. Not even like hormones, just Atypical medications

[@himynameisangie]

After reading the post the band put out Charlie said that he didn't think there was that much of an effect on the guy from what the post said. I think there was a huge effect on the guy. The post said, "This tampering has caused confusion and thousands of dollars in medical bills the past months trying to figure out whats wrong." Suddenly experiencing strange symptoms and changes in your body and then navigating the healthcare system to try and get a diagnosis while racking up tons of bills would be so stressful and life changing!

[@jakdekayen]

Yeah those medical bills rack up and QUICK, before we figured out my moms kidneys were failing, those bills racked up into the MILLIONS, REALLY quick and thats someone with a limited wallet, an everyday person not a mucisian - medical bills can humble even the richest of people, REALLY quick. My dads STILL in debt, 15+ years later, and it simply took legit like 3 months tops to rack up those costs.

[@MorningStarMidnightSun]

⁠​⁠@@jakdekayenmost musicians _are_ everyday people, dude was in a hardcore band his wallet is likely to be more limited than yours

[@notforwards1221]

@@jakdekayen I knew US medical bills could be big buts that's insane!!

[@oneiros458]

I agree and as someone who was on HRT, he definitely had tits and probably Other changes

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

Yeah wth, I hope that Diego guy get jail time and get sued or something. What a POS human

[@MiataKitten]

I PRAY he didn’t lose his ability to have children after this because for someone take that from another human is absolutely despicable

[@rileymachelle4088]

He most likely will still be fertile, but being on estrogen for that long can definitely do some damage and decrease fertility

[@MiataKitten]

@@rileymachelle4088 Ugh, I can’t imagine how he and his partner must feel. I don’t know much about the effects, just worried about fertility and possibly complications with development? Assuming they want kids, of course, but yeah, scary scary situation.

[@youtubesonlysavior3044]

​@@rileymachelle4088 Fuck fertility ts causes cancer

[@Zer0Spinn]

yeah, that would be hellish. This guy is a straight up psychopath cause there is no way you would risk hurting someone so much in so many ways just to get a gf. But, on the other hand, I understand why he couldn't get one normally...

[@basspuppy133]

Oral estrogen (oestradiol) is just not that effective as most of it is converted into estrone by the liver before it is used by the body. The doseage nor the bioavailability would have been high enough for any physical long term effects. It is likely that he would have had to deal with decreased muscle mass and impotence but these are 100% reversible, even after years. I highly highly doubt there was any breast tissue growth, but even if there was it would be a minute amount that would easily be lost/reversible after the victim stopped being dosed with E. None of this is to counter any of the trauma this would have inflicted on the victim both physically and mentally, but it's good to atleast know the facts of what the hormone does.

[@imailedyouaboxofbees]

He's apologizing for *drugging his friend to make moves on the friends fiancee* in the same tone I used to apologize for cheating as a teenager. I don't think he realizes how serious this is, which doesn't support the idea that he's broken free from his delusion. Messing with someone's hormones out of spite is INSANE. Straight up changing the body and brain functions of another person wtf, that's some scary shit. I can't help but think of this like an acid attack, because the point is disfiguring the victim. This type of attack comes from a very hateful place.

[@kitkatrina]

No shot. I'm convinced he secretly wanted to steal Sixx away from the girl and played it off this way to save face

[@nickcarroll8565]

Wow. That actually makes more sense. Trying to turn him out.

[@xcell_r4thr87]

He tied to turn him into a femboy

[@capitancuba8962]

That makes more sense actually ngl. I think you're right.

[@laureeeee]

I'm now convinced the world ended in 2012 and we are all having a collective fever dream

[@beasthunter4003]

Hey, it probably is...tbh I've lost my sense of reality for a long time now

[@angelicamarch3407]

The World did end in 2012, And we are all in Hell.

[@breathlessboarding2791]

The movie was real!

[@starblade1]

@@breathlessboarding2791 2012 was actually a documentary

[@GloomyTanooki]

Dude is AFBB (assigned female by bandmate)

[@Vy069]

😂

[@_b_e_a_n_s_]

LMFAOOOOO

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

This looks like a plot from an NTR hentai manga.

[@rich3083]

Best comment on this video

[@doosin8696]

AFBB

[@Flamebeow666]

Estrogen doesn't metabolize very well through the digestive system. Estrogen supplements are usually sublingual tablets, transdermal patches, or intramuscular injections.

[@lissieloveskitties]

Lolololololololololololololol how do you think women take contraception? What a tool.

[@cwill2127]

Ok well is a powder in a pre workout anyway, it’s getting absorbed through the oral mucosa as well. Sublingual tablets are basically just an easy dissolve pill. So essentially what he did to the pre workout

[@cvspvr]

oral estrogen isn't 100% ineffective though. it's about 1-10% effective depending on the ester, so, if you take enough (probably over a gram), it will be effective

[@tihsitef8183]

Estrogen is expensive too, like, what?! 😂

[@cvspvr]

estrogen is dirt cheap if you buy it from china instead of the pharmacy. i was watching another video which said that this guy was on steroids so he probably knew where to look (also, he'd need large amounts of powdered estrogen rather than liquid estrogen)

[@squeaktheswan2007]

It reminds me of the reddit story about the roommate who was scared of losing her boyfriend to her other roommate. She would lace the roommate's morning shake with creotene hoping that the girl would bulk up and that the boyfriend wouldn't be into her anymore. Needless to say, the other girl got sick.

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

This looks like a plot from an NTR hentai manga.

[@BelBelle468]

@@Dylan-lx5ro Wow, wanna pull the victim cherry pick card? You do realize this is actual drugs whereas the other girl was laced with off the counter protein that was only offensive due to allergies. Also, it happened to a higher profile ppl than Reddit users. That stuff is going to make it more popular than a Reddit story. What you’re claiming can easily be gender swapped. You’ll see a lot of high profile incidents with women in the wrong and using it to confirm their biases. Even if the gender swapped version is just as common. Here, nobody is doing that, cuz it’s a man. Cry more

[@waddle623]

​@@Dylan-lx5roWTF are you talking about? The man is the victim in this story. Stop making everything about gender.

[@Jankyito]

Weird because Creatine shouldn't have any adverse health affects and isn't going to bulk you up any significant amount. It just gives you the ability to work harder in the gym.

[@Dice-Z]

@@Dylan-lx5ro Take this L, friend, you dropped it.

[@Jonathan_Collins]

The fact that this legit and this was not like a skit for a comedy show shows how messed up some people are in this world, this is both messed up and so hilarious to me at the same time. Mad embarrassing🤣

[@Fluffykunn]

Humans scare me enough that even if this is fake there is at least one dumbass willing to use this logic.

[@iframesz]

This was a Light Yagami type of scheme 😹

[@BRIANNA_00]

As someone who takes estrogen myself, this is *insane* ... *never* force someone to use estrogen, it has permanent major changes and is definitely *not* for most people.

[@Enryu_uyrnE]

@BRIANNA_00 “Estrogen is capable of morphing the human body in ways one could say are irreparable… if I were to take it, it may cause some trouble…” “But would you morph?” “Nah, I’d testosterate”

[@BRIANNA_00]

​@Enryu_uyrnE This a quote from something?

[@DrDolan2000]

If his girlfriend is actually sane, she will do the opposite of leaving and support and comfort him through the damage his ex-friend made him go through and, in turn, shame this scumbag for causing said damage all for the reason of jealousy and covetness

[@EveTheRaviolo]

not even a keeper dude that's what every normal person's reaction. idk what your view on women or people are, but I'm pretty sure every sane person would be disgusted by the act of drugging someone and lacing their food, that's psycho behavior, especially to the end goal of stealing someone's partner

[@DrDolan2000]

@@EveTheRaviolo Seems like plenty of women in America would be disgusted enough that they would leave Men, too, but not to the same degree

[@EveTheRaviolo]

@@DrDolan2000 "plenty of women would leave" according to what study? What statistics? And "men too but not to the same degree"? What in the "I made it the fuck up" are you yapping about??? There's literal statistical study proving that men are more likely to leave their partner if she gets ill or disabled, while women tend to stay when their partner gets ill or disabled. So men are more likely, according to statistical evidence, to leave if their partner gets chronically ill, disabled or gets cancer. Especially in the USA. So if anything, seems like the exact opposite of what you're claiming, by statistics she'd be more likely to stay by his side than he would if something like this happened to her 💀

[@emmyy1]

@@DrDolan2000where u getting this info from lol. go outside more

[@Some_Deist]

@@emmyy1 Women don’t like men doing feminine/submissive things (see the whole Ick thing)

[@v0HaVoK0v]

It could have caused ED too, which would be extremely depressing and really mess up a person's life

[@joecool9739]

Just remember that the irony is that "La Llorona" means "Crying Woman" in Spanish...after he tried to turn his bandmate into a woman and steal his woman

[@muk3558]

maybe that was his original thought process but then they started working out and the cretin took over his train of thoughts with "make him small make me big, bed his fiancé"

[@raynaakuma9981]

I just watched that movie with my best friend

[@joecool9739]

@@raynaakuma9981 La Llorona is an old folktale Its not based on a movie

[@claucemicro1080]

@@joecool9739There are different movies about that, so…

[@maxsingleton8515]

they made a movie out of the tale, so that's what he watched. Is that not simple?@@joecool9739

[@LivingFire_BurningFlame]

Laced with Estrogen? I'm more convinced than ever that we live in clown world...

[@Fraser142]

we 100% do.

[@anthroimperzia3927]

It should be illegal for men to take estrogen pills/medicines

[@BRIANNA_00]

Fr. As someone who takes E myself, you should *never* force a person to use it. It has permanent, major changes. It's *not* something most people would want.

[@KaraTheGirlie]

I'm trying to get estrogen but lacing someone is never fuckin okay

[@seth_u]

@imperzia3927 I mean, estrogen is used to help treat prostate cancer so I'd be careful with that line of reasoning lol

[@macairhead5137]

This is aggravated assault, or maybe even attempted murder, depending on the victim’s possible health problems.

[@arandomcrusader8822]

Plot Twist: The guy was actually into the bandmate more and wanted to turn him more feminine to steal him from his fiancee

[@grunkleg.3110]

Put that Diego guy in jail. He openly admitted to poisoning his coworker. He is a danger to his fellow man

[@apollyon7x]

There is a story in NYPost about this. Actually seems like Sixx had pretty serious negative effects from this, physically and mentally. Hormones being way off can make you feel crazy or not yourself. Its pretty terrible thing to do to someone.

[@Anana42]

Yeah its pretty great when you're trans, pretty terrible when you're not. Super messed up.

[@babypinkxoxo2000]

Whare did they post it?

[@athenafaeth]

men's hormones are pretty consistent since they don't have a cycle so I imagine he's going through a lot mentally LOL, I wouldn't wish estrogen on anyone tbh

[@polartechie]

This is like Tim Heidecker's Dekkar

[@MorningStarMidnightSun]

@@Anana42there’s other medical reasons people take hormones e.g. contraception

[@weremutt8]

Im a trans girl so can confirm like 3 months is the start point for boobs and its super uncomfortable so totally makes sense he'd go to a doctor over it. Emotional changes were like within two weeks

[@SadieThegoat-sr4fb]

Yeah poor bros tits were probably hurting

[@ronburgundy2383]

You Single?

[@elijahmeilak2906]

​@@ronburgundy2383 bro, touch grass

[@ronburgundy2383]

@@elijahmeilak2906 No!

[@2D_Emerald]

you're so valid

[@Yugigreg]

Bro Charlie had me dying “imagine he goes to gym and starts squirting damn what are they putting in these protein shakes” 😂😂

[@the_grantthomas]

THIS is the shit I wake up in the morning for.

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAM666]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@ThreeSheep69]

Estoy triste porque hoy es mi cumpleaños y no tuve ningun suscriptor ♥️♥️

[@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc]

To anybody reading this, please report those first 3 comments as spam and do not interact with them at all. No dislike, no replies, just report.

[@extract3959]

Its 2pm though lol

[@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc]

​@@extract3959...yes, because the entire world is america in EST...

[@MintleafCakes]

i have a friend whos very closely intertwined with this band and its insane that this has spread so far that charlie himself has seen it. its made everyone involved pretty freaked out considering it was not meant to be spread so far. its real and its hurt a lotta people. theyre all just kinda waiting for everything to end atp and im hoping the best for them all. last i knew the band removed their instagram, i havent checked today to see if thats still the case. im kind of in shock that this has just gotten so far out of their hands at this point i dont even know what else to say

[@FAHRENHEITDELIO]

This looks like a plot from an NTR hentai manga.

[@jamesthevulture777]

I am friends with the victims as well. I know how you feel and I’m here for you, this is horrible and if you need to talk to someone about it I’m here.

[@snorlaxgender]

I don't think this is funny or "drama" at all. I'm so sorry for your friends. As a trans person I know how dangerous hormones can be when done wrong and I seriously hope you all find healing. And that the internet's goldfish brain gives you guys a break soon.

[@summerblalock6900]

thank you. it’s gotten way to out of hand and it really affects so many people. I think this video just attracts too much unnecessary attention and it saddens me

[@jamesthevulture777]

@@summerblalock6900 Exactly. This is a trauma they are still actively trying to mentally process, and not a lot of people are considering how hard the publication of this is on them.

[@waspsandwich6548]

4:01 How did that dude in his chat come up with estrogenius so quick? Funny as heckleston bro

[@katherine_queen5294]

The two biggest concerning things to me are the facts that he put his friend into VERY serious danger by lacing him with hormones that alter his physiology but also it was being mixed with other things that we don’t know how it could affect the estrogen. Also I’m shocked that a grown man thought a woman would leave a partner for someone who seems “manlier” like what kinda kindergarten shit

[@Some_Deist]

If your man becomes softer and you see a man who’s dominant wouldn’t you find that dominant man more attractive than your soft boyfriend?

[@GlitchtaleLover]

@@Some_Deist I mean that entirely depends on what that person is into. Clearly it didn't work, so I don't think she was that troubled by it, aside from any problems it caused him medically.

[@katherine_queen5294]

@@Some_Deist everyone has a different type. After living with my macho dad my entire life, I want someone who is the opposite so I’d much rather be with someone who is “soft”. This is what I meant by this being a kindergarten logic plan. Women are people and every person has different preferences you can’t just assume what they do and don’t like

[@billiecruz4399]

@@Some_Deist hell no man and you if you fall out of love of a woman because she's not as soft as some new chick then you are no man. You're more like a dog

[@vjcodec]

This should be considered criminal! Hope the guy doesn’t get any medical or mental complications from this act. Imagine going through a second puberty unknowingly and for the opposite sex. what the hell. Just straight up cruel!

[@rileymachelle4088]

I'm pretty sure it is a crime. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't

[@DDracee]

lacing is indeed illegal in all first world countries let alone every state, but sixx will need to press charges for anything to happen

[@TORTOISESFORDAYS]

This is extremely illegal in Tennessee and the cops can press charges without the victims cooperation. And they should.

[@lilgamedev]

*girl (now)

[@nrlsan36_34]

It is *VERY* illegal, and a very serious charge at that. Either aggravated assault, intentional poisoning, or if he were to get very sick, attempted murder.

[@jamesthevulture777]

The Tennessee punk community is a beautiful vibrant place with a wonderful collection of people and bands. Amazing music, kind people, it should NOT be reduced to this tabloid drama. This is not “typical hardcore behavior” this is a very serious problem done by a very mentally ill person who needs to be brought to justice. This does not represent our community, we are ashamed and pained over this.

[@hippiedude2232]

And I don't think we should be using mental illness as a blanket term, or a shield. Obviously he ain't right in the head, but I'm getting tired of being lumped in with assholes like him and labeled dangerous because of mental health issues. I have depression, he causes depression... We are not the same.

[@the_expidition427]

Disheartning and ironicly enough the profile picture is fitting

[@jamesthevulture777]

@@the_expidition427 the Ouroboros is a symbol of rebirth

[@ArsonHall]

@@jamesthevulture777you sure bro ain't just having himself as a snack

[@tonyjenssen4157]

All the five hardcore punk rock fans in Tennessee approved of this

[@OVERRSIGHT]

Charlie is the only News Channel I need

[@4RILDIGITAL]

This situation is undoubtedly insane. The level of obsession and disregard for another person’s health and well-being is shocking.

[@arcioko2142]

ai generated comment 💀

[@wsrcultivation]

I think the bigger concern with giving the estrogen to someone is not the muscle loss but instead it could cause ED and penis shrinkage. Something that could cause turmoil in an existing relationship.

[@rileymachelle4088]

It depends on how long he was on it, and if they were also poisoned with testosterone blockers. I've been on both for 2 years (I'm trans). It took a year until shrinkage slowly started to happen, and ED still isn't something that I deal with yet. It's different for everyone, though, and estrogen can really mess with pre-existing health issues. The biggest concern would likely be gynocomastia (unwanted breast growth) and damage to fertility.

[@GavHern]

i believe those are moreso effects of blocking testosterone than introducing estrogen, though it depends on the dose and how long/frequently you take it. i’d be more concerned with the intent of the other bandmate than any long-term bodily changes unless it was like twice daily for those 5 months. there is also the threat of liver damage since estradiol is meant to be dissolved in the mouth rather than immediately digested.

[@Yarmox]

Its actually anabolic strangely. Id be curious if the guy made gains or didnt while on it

[@AngryDad.]

​@@rileymachelle4088fucking gross

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@rileymachelle4088 Yeesh, that’s a lot to juggle; not for the first time, I’m glad I’m straight

[@jondal]

That's next level insane

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAM666]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@DavidJCobb]

@@userxyz783 as someone with mental illness, mucho texto

[@producedby3am344]

@@userxyz783ur insane

[@Lupercalum]

@@userxyz783 That's an insane comment dude, big text, much wow

[@originalSiiiN]

straight up insaneo style

[@CLC_]

how do people like this get estrogen, while us trans people struggle to get anything

[@saddestcatboy]

real

[@gunkwizardry]

im sure you probably already know this, but in case you dont, you can order progesterone online and have it shipped to you, since its not a controlled substance (unlike testosterone). i believe the main manufacturer that offers this is based in israel, though, so that might not be super possible atm

[@etrephesm]

im glad youre struggling to find it.

[@CLC_]

@@gunkwizardryOH WHAT THATS AWESOME

[@CLC_]

@@etrephesm ok💀

[@evilcowhead]

This is insane, it took me years to get HRT and so many loopholes but this this man can just up and randomly get estrogen and drug his friend with it? Did I understand this correctly?

[@clinethulu8479]

Ah yes, the ol “turn em into a women to take your women.” It’s works every time! Except for when it doesn’t. *edited bc my dumb ass used the wrong except. English is hard.

[@dutifulbarrel9084]

Especially in 2024

[@kirk5649]

I'm going to try it. I've it works most of the time every time

[@floofyboi7546]

“What do you mean she isn’t only in love with him because he’s masculine?” -him (probably)

[@anthroimperzia3927]

Estrogen cant turn you into a woman, it just makes you lazy, fat, sad, and flabby.

[@clementinesoup]

And lowers your little soldiers numbers@@anthroimperzia3927

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

Obsession is a powerful scary force. I know because I’m obsessed with these kinds of videos.

[@AlessandroPacifico]

It's not only mind-boggling, but also stupid. What if the fiancé is more attracted to femininity in men?

[@LettucePrey001]

Many women are. Just look at the hype over BG3’s Astarion

[@valenciasaintilus9573]

@@LettucePrey001western women are

[@whyisyes3957]

@@valenciasaintilus9573eastern women can be as well, there are a ton of effeminate men in Japanese and Korean media

[@joutakujo9773]

@@valenciasaintilus9573 Kpop?

[@theeduummpp]

yep. that 's quite possibly the most insane story I have ever heard

[@tks2072]

So like, what would even be the game plan? Doesn't say he used T blockers too... so what's the game plan? Do you just swoop in for the girl? Was the girl even interested in you? What if she shoots you down? Like, dude, just find another special someone. No need to make a super villain plan just to bang someone...

[@windy8544]

he'd go on to supply the entire town with estrogen

[@KwikBR]

he's like the villains in old cartoons that would kidnap the princess to marry them

[@tks2072]

@@KwikBR exactly! It's like... bro you didn't think past step 1 or 2.

[@sanrusdyne]

The fact that he thought the estrogen would make him seem "less manly" tells me he knows judt about as much about estrogen as alex jones does, he probably doesnt even know androgen blockers exist

[@AngryDad.]

​@@sanrusdyneit literally does dummy 😂

[@DrMattPhillips]

Without also taking hormone blockers I doubt there'd be any long-term side effects, the estrogen would usually be replaced by his natural production of testosterone as it is the stronger hormone, especially if all of this occurred over a short period of 5 or so months (however the effects on each person will differ depending on their genetics and lifestyle i.e fitness, diet etc. ). Taking any medication that has not been prescribed under professional supervision obviously risks nausea, cramps, fatigue etc. and although long-term effects are less likely without hormone replacement, it's hard to rule anything out definitively without knowing the specifics.

[@renatatostada3318]

I can put Dr in my KZbin name and spew BS, too. You don't know the dose--no one does, I'd bet. You don't know the guy's hormone levels--unless you're his doctor and saw his blood work? In which case this comment is probably some sort of HIPAA violation? You're also just wrong in general. Each individual person is a case study when it comes to HRT and transitioning, so while some may see minimal changes after 5 months, others may see breast development and other noticable changes already. You literally know NO details about this case based on this video to be making these claims. You are harmful because you're posing as a doctor. If you are actually a doctor, you are not practicing in an ethical manner with statements like this. Please delete this comment.

[@lillipupsmum8820]

But they said in their statement that the admission came after 3 months of going backwards and forwards to the doctor trying to find out what was wrong. So something must have been noticeable.

[@BatLB]

People dont know what a friend is. they call everybody they talk to a friend, not actually realizing that 99,9% people you encounter in your life will never, and never have been, anything close to a friend. friends are a rare material.

[@DeeBellwether]

as someone born male that grew boobs with estrogen: its not SUPER fast, in that after 3-6 months, you would likely end up with small A cups, and i would think if the guy was naturally masculine and lifts that after a few months off it, with good health practices and workouts, it would work the fat off pretty quickly. the main issues he likely faced were emotional swings, which would make someone think they were developing a mental health issue if they didn't know the cause, and overly sensitive nipples, which would have been upsetting, again, if the cause was unknown. poor guy was probably crying randomly and wondering what the hell was making his head swim. my heart out to the victim. no one should be forced to be in a form that feels inauthentic, same for brain chemistry. long term, such a poisoning could actually mess with his internal organs in rare cases and cause extremely dangerous effects.

[@etrephesm]

i am sorry for your loss

[@junelibee]

@@etrephesmstop being transphobic in the comment replies

[@Jenna2k]

I feel horrible for him. I hope he is doing ok.

[@DeeBellwether]

ok. thank so much. like wow, i needed more nonsense in my life. bless you sir. @@etrephesm

[@etrephesm]

@@junelibee ill stop being transphobic when trans people stop making excuses why they can sexually predate on innocent children and people in public bathrooms, when the trans and gay community stop sexualizing children and exploiting them. Im transphobic for a good reason, Ive never met a single one of you who did not sexually harass me and exploit my good nature and kindness, and see it as a way to come on to me. Stop touching children, stop harassing me, and stay out of public bathrooms.

[@s4di.3]

"thousands of dollars in medical bills trying to figure out what's wrong" reads to me like he was definitely having health issues. They also probably knew he had high estrogen but couldn't figure out why or how to make it go back down, since he was constantly being dosed with it

[@amethegoblin]

People involuntarily dosed with oestrogen, and I can't even get it legally!

[@drunkenhobo8020]

One day you'll look back on this phase and be glad!

[@masterdoge17]

@@drunkenhobo8020fart face

[@claysoldier0755]

@@drunkenhobo8020 fart face

[@queercandy1]

​@@drunkenhobo8020fart face

[@sexysoup631]

​@@drunkenhobo8020fart face

[@SystemUnderSiege]

3:42 Charlies excitement over the potential for goofy drama is palpable

[@OwOKrieger]

Charlie is a powerful, scary force. 😮

[@Vuuduu]

Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु ‎

[@YouTubetail]

He’s it 😂😊

[@ThreeSheep69]

Estoy triste porque hoy es mi cumpleaños y no tuve ningun suscriptor ♥️♥️

[@UTUBETROLLPOLICETEAM666]

DIDNT ASK + ⭐TYRANNY'S ANIMATIONS ⭐ ARE WAY BETTER IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM

[@lpc9929]

What happening who are the

[@secondblackjack1051]

Normally I'd joke about something like this, but honestly the entire nature of the incident and what it implies regarding the perpetrator just makes it too horrible to not take seriously. It's one thing to _believe_ women are superficial to the point where they'll just flock to the manlier person love and affection be damned. It's another thing entirely to fuck up someone's endocrine system to give yourself some twisted edge in that department. People are comparing this to 'involuntary HRT' which is both appropriate and nowhere near describing the magnitude of it. My mood feels like an absolute rollercoaster sometimes, and that's from transitioning with precisely calculated and personalized doses. I can't imagine the mental toll being haphazardly fed this stuff must've taken on the victim...

[@sorel484]

This is the new meta when it comes to relationship stuff

[@zedvids]

I was blowing my nose when charlie read out, "the war on gingavitis is hardcore" and laughed my snot out 😂

[@adrianperez3205]

No shot you actually fuckin covered this I have this gc with a bunch of people from the hc scene and we all saw the post and talked about it Strange seeing you cover it but it’s great to spread the awareness

[@greatestaxolotl4933]

fr its so weird to see local drama get globalized

[@Guts48]

It's just a prank The prank:

[@elitacilan891]

I' m speechless, the most unimaginable thing ever

[@JoyStacks.]

I love that you included yourself getting trolled by chat trying to find it lmao

[@KarminUwU]

I take estrogen by choice. I want all the effects of it. I CANNOT IMAGINE how EVIL you have to be to force it into someone. That’s fking insane… a person’s hormone balance is so important and a persons body is incredibly sacred, how anyone could do this is insane

[@epicray8434]

They do it to kids all the time and it's legal.

[@elin4364]

@@epicray8434kids that want those changes :)

[@KarminUwU]

@@epicray8434 no, youre living in a fantasy land. "do it to kids all the time" lmao please be so fr

[@epicray8434]

@@KarminUwU "living in fantasy land" bit ironic bud but okay. "blockers" same difference. And yes, it's profitable and a lifelong "medication" that needs to maintained once on hormones. Duhh it's going to to given to children because they cannot copperhand the scheme of things and they are easily influenced. You couldn't seriously be unaware of the financial motivations all across the board right?

[@billiecruz4399]

@@epicray8434 16 year olds can join the military and people are in the workforce even younger than that. Children can get tattoos and get married with their parents consent. Children can even be tried as adults in America If you want to protect children from things they don't understand from being exploited. You should be whining about kids in the military teens working hard manual labor in prison. Less on things that they actually choose.

[@fiat_ow7876]

I had a girl put nicotine patches on her neck. I would kiss her neck and thought it tasted really weird, but I didn't mind. I had withdrawal symptoms of addiction when we broke up, it was pretty minor-moderate but still was there. I''ve never been hooked on any drug or addiction either, so it was weird Turns out I started working at a pharmacy 9 months later, was working with some prescriptions and smelt them and it was the EXACT same smell. I had a visceral reaction to smelling it. I went back home, did some research, and found a subreddit where women do this to men all the time. Insanity man. People are NUTS

[@alexisd6106]

I’ve heard of girls doing this. I’ve heard of girls spraying their perfume on their lovers pillow so they think of them. But smearing drugs on your body so your partner has medical withdrawal is fuckin wild.

[@wicked5999]

Why do you think she did anything TO you?

[@fiat_ow7876]

@@wicked5999 there’s no way your putting blame on me, for her putting nicotine on her neck, unless I’m misreading your comment

[@Fartboy226]

@@wicked5999yea bruhs tripping balls wait til he finds out whats really killing him and whose doing it

[@cvspvr]

i mean, thinking that she did this because of you and not because she was trying to quit smoking is a pretty big leap to conclusions

[@shale2664]

This is actually horrifying

[@richardjames9091]

The perpetrator needs prison time. If he is willing to do this to people what else has he done or planning to do.

[@abunchofrandomstuff4106]

Just fyi the speed of feminine trait development would have been affected by dosage but slowed by the fact it seems like the ‘friend’ wasn’t also dosing him with T blockers

[@doing8692]

He would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those metal kids

[@epistemologicalnihilist5746]

‘Metal’ing’ would’ve also technically worked

[@sleepycowboy18]

Bro.... thats insane

[@karaesthetic]

i need this pre workout

[@crowserainance]

Background song at 4:00 From Under The Willow - Hiraeth

[@hippiesrule1000]

the hero i was looking for. Thanks man.

[@vikcxi6666]

thank you

[@keiiitttt]

Isnt this what the inmates from that adam sandler prison yard film did to the guards lol

[@mechanicalbow]

This is criminal. He should be put in prison.

[@Tennisplayer123]

I live for these crazy stories keep em coming please 😂😂

[@pivy7072]

If this isn't the epitome of the red pill craze, I don't know what is

[@evokalis6450]

I’m so pissed. I’m having to go through so much work to get my estrogen. How the fuck did he get his hands on it, and can he give it to me?

[@epicray8434]

He's of age. You are either not or outside of America luckily.

[@evokalis6450]

@@epicray8434 I am an adult just getting an appointment took some effort and my insurance is being a bitch and not covering things for some weird stupid reasons(thank you mom for helping me figure out what is going on). I finally will be able to start next month but goddamn this took way more effort than it should have

[@epicray8434]

@@evokalis6450 I'm sorry that your mom is enabling you. That's actually terrible.

[@evokalis6450]

@@epicray8434 what do you mean enabling me? She’s been a massive help

[@Joibuzzr1]

@@epicray8434bro what?

[@slashin3645]

This is actually shocking i dont think i ever expected something like this.

[@Chunkyjalapeno]

Bro try to effeminate him to steal his girl lol.

[@Luna-Fox]

It's weird how many people in these conments don't know how Estrogen works. We also don't know exactly how much E was being laced and what type, which is integral to knowing if it was even effective at all (most likely not because swallowing pills is super ineffective, due to the liver filtering almost all of it). The only permanent effect would be breast growth, but 3-5 months will just be budding unless youre extremely lucky, every other effect it causes will be undone with time. Infertility isn't a worry until about a year, and even still that's a low chance. Is it still awful that this was done without concent? Of course, but the people trying to frame it like the band member is "potentially forever damaged" are just incorrect. At the very worst his chest will be a little softer and would get minor top surgery if he wants.

[@PingasFumberto]

That’s still pretty fucking bad lmao

[@SOUPGOD4EVER]

Bro I joined at 7:28, and I was confused as all hell

[@williamlanger9229]

I really hope he presses charges.

[@user-bg4eb7wi1k]

I had a sever case of Gyno i went thru 2 surgeries to remove it so far and i need to do a third. It is not a deadly condition but it really leaves you mental scarred due to all the shame you have to endure as a man. I had to take depression treatment for a year

[@boirnoboiovanna1130]

Someone who doesn’t want estrogen gets it for free in their drink But when i want to transition suddenly i need money smfh

[@epicray8434]

At least there's something stopping you from breaking yourself.

[@billiecruz4399]

Literallyy

[@billiecruz4399]

@@epicray8434 interesting that you think the government should work to protect people from exploitation. Do you also agree in socialized Healthcare, forcing companies to pay a living wage, and ending child labor in America? I mean hell you think that the government should be protecting people from choices then the government should probably ban liquor. Even for adults why should the government stop protecting you and just because you're not a child anymore?

[@epicray8434]

@@billiecruz4399 not necessarily protect anyone, just not aid in their destruction for profit. No, I don't want even more taxes. Never said that and that's not an accurate comparison to what's happening, Liquor isn't pushed or labeled as a good thing to children and adults alike like how hormones are. They don't. They tell people they have a problem that way they can make the financial gain from "fixing" the problem when the "fix" requires a lifetime of payments for the "medication" to be maintained. Example, you don't want your hand anymore, I (the government) tell you that's perfectly okay and normal not to want it. Then I (the government) make money from removing your hand and also make a lifetime of money from you because you are now required to repeatedly take "medication" to so you don't get infections and so your hand doesn't grow back. (No hands don't grow back) it's just a Example of other horrible things they actually do.

[@epicray8434]

@@billiecruz4399 you seem to not understand the government is the one doing it.

[@tristenweber-nd1sv]

This is Yzma levels of scheming.

[@Ihaveteafortea]

Scene drama is honestly always crazy

[@coyotekaiju9352]

As someone in the Nashville scene, it’s toxic enough for that guy to blend in just fine