Welding Differentials - Dana 60 vs Sterling 10.5 vs 14 Bolt (sorta...)

[@SHREKfiona1234]

Great video, i swapped those ford axles into my 1/2 ton and have always wanted to lock the front when offroading since "everyone says" just weld it. but as a noob, this was very informative, thank you!!!

[@WebWheeler]

Glad it helped you out! Thanks for watching 👍

[@mj23polairs]

Do a eaton vid, see em all the time under old trucks here in Wyoming always curious about the details on them

[@WebWheeler]

Yeah I have a buddy with a hunting property that has a bunch of old trucks on it. I think I counted at least 4 eaton's out there haha. Thanks for the comment!

[@gunnerlee8545]

WebWheeler u ever do the video on the Eaton’s?

[@WebWheeler]

Haven't yet but still planning to in the near future. Just been too busy on my main build for that just yet. Thanks for watching!

[@gunnerlee8545]

WebWheeler no problem thank you for the info.

[@ozzyupinya]

Great video very informative and detailed . Im looking for a strong diff to change out on my yota .

[@WebWheeler]

Thanks man! Yeah plenty of Toyotas run welded diffs. What's nice about the 8" is you could have a welded third member and an open one- open for normal driving and swap in the welded one for trail runs. Not something you'd want to do every weekend but I've seen guys swap those Toyota thirds like a Nascar pit crew haha

[@danielberrones88]

Another vote for an Eaton video!

[@WebWheeler]

Will do! Glad you're interested- thanks for the feedback! 😎

[@tommyr95]

Yes, would love to see the H072 in more detail. :)

[@WebWheeler]

Will do! I was planning to either way but I'm glad it's not just me that's interested haha

[@gunnerlee8545]

Any videos more videos on Eaton’s jw

[@WebWheeler]

Planning on making some! Once I finish my Dakota build I will do a video about them

[@diyspeed]

Is it possible to weld a 14 bolt while it's still in the case? Can I stick a rod in the oiling window and send it? Need it to work just a few times...

[@WebWheeler]

If you aren't worried about it holding together for long, it's worth a try haha. That carrier wont be usable anymore though if you wanted to switch to a Detroit or anything that reuses the 14 bolt carrier. Good luck!

[@b.s.adventures9421]

I am interested in that drop out style chev axle.

[@WebWheeler]

Thanks for letting me know! I will definitely get a video out about it at some point 👍

[@powerman5kw]

Had a 1960’s dana 60 powerlock that had 4 spider gears.

[@WebWheeler]

Haven't seen one of those. There was a lot of interesting Dana stuff in that closed-knuckle era that changed as they became the standard through the 70's and beyond. Thanks for watching!

[@jesusvasquez3203]

More eaton videos, in my opinion they're better then the 14 bolt except the cost of parts but they did come with Detroit lockers and the 14 bolt Detroit lockers do drop in but you have to switch to the 14 bolt axle shafts with 1/4 inch cut off

[@yourlocalalexis4578]

maybe i will weld my front diff as i am starting to learn to weld. thanks for the tip!!!

[@yourlocalalexis4578]

as long as i stay in the sand, i should have no steering problems, i think Hopefully my welds hold!! lol

[@WebWheeler]

Definitely get some practice in before welding on your diff haha! You might find that you start to understeer pretty bad too but as with everything, it's a trade-off. Good luck!

[@strokinbaby965]

On the sterling 10.5 they have little plates that mesh on the teeth of the carrier, are they needed when it's welded or don't they serve a purpose anymore?

[@WebWheeler]

You mean the bearing plates (look like cupped washers) that sit between the spider gears and the carrier? I like to keep them in to keep everything nice and tight but no they aren't needed and don't really serve any purpose once the diff is welded haha

[@strokinbaby965]

@@WebWheeler okay awesome I'm welding mine just wondering if they were necessary

[@WebWheeler]

@@strokinbaby965 Nice good luck man!

[@strokinbaby965]

@@WebWheeler turned out good seems to be working just put about an inch of weld everywhere the spiders met and I mean everywhere, hopefully it holds up to 500 🐎

[@allanwagner4570]

hello webwheeler I would like to know what is the sprocket on the outside of the ring gear ??? pardon my ignorance??

[@WebWheeler]

No worries! Happy to answer questions. That is the tone ring for the ABS system- basically there is a magnetic sensor on the axle housing that uses the teeth on the tone ring to detect the speed the that the axle is spinning. Im going to make another video that covers it a little more in depth pretty soon. Thanks a lot for watching!

[@allanwagner4570]

Thanks for the information on that I learned something new today 👍 Nice work on the welding of that diff It looks bulletproof now

[@brianhaw9398]

In your opinion which rear axle is stronger? The 14 bolt or 10.5 sterling .

[@WebWheeler]

The 10.5 Sterling has pinion issues until 2011 when they switched to 37 spline. Only drawback with the 2011+ is you can only get gears as low as 4.88. As far as pure strength, I would say the newer 10.5's and the 14 bolts are really close, but overall when considering other factors (gear availability, parts, simplicity, cost, etc.) the 14 bolt wins in the true breaker. Only other problem is they are both huge housings haha. If that's a factor, the Dana 70 is best for compact strength. Things like abs sensors, brakes, e brakes, etc factor in to what is best for a certain project but as far as the axle that has proven itself to handle crazy abuse, the 14 bolt is king

[@brianhaw9398]

Thanks for the reply. Just looking at a possible future build. Are you aware if the bolt pattern on 14 bolt is available on a dana 60 front?

[@WebWheeler]

The older Dana 60s and 14 bolts are 8x6.5" but if you're looking at the new metric Dana 60 axles, Artec industries sells super duty Dana 60 unit bearings that are drilled for the stock 8x170mm and 8x6.5 wheel patterns, which would match the 8x6.5 on 14 bolts 👍

[@brianhaw9398]

Ok ,good to know. Thanks.

[@huckstirred7112]

I liked Toyota diffs ,like before the mud pit I would swap out third members

[@WebWheeler]

Yeah the third member axles are great for being versatile like that. Especially the toyotas- even the front thirds can be swapped out super quick

[@turboed350]

why not just use acetone and never have to worry about whats right or wrong chemical? id never spray brake clean tp preb a weld it just seems risky due to the fact idk whats the right one its 50/50 acetone just seems no fail lol.

[@WebWheeler]

Acetone is great but can be a pain if you're trying to weld something with a lot of irregular surfaces or crevices. Hosing the parts with brake cleaner tends to be the easier way so it's how lots of people do it, which is why I made it a point to mention it in the video. Thanks for watching!

[@fishrrelaxing9361]

No point in welding diffs anymore.. you can buy spools for all of these for under $200 which are gonna have even stronger pins.. I wouldn’t weld or spool a 60 cause if the cross pin design.. but the sterling’s and bolts are soo much easier to just drop a spool in then deal with welding them up. If You are gonna weld one up.. spend $10 on anti splatter spray and spray it on the bearings and pins and nothing will stick to them..

[@WebWheeler]

Not everyone has the budget to spend $200+ on a spool when a welded diff is practically free with a little extra work

[@Bodeesafa]

@@WebWheeler agree with both statements. However, this point about antisplatter spray is spot on and would’ve gone really far in saving you time. First video of yours I’ve watched, will check out more. Good job on being so thorough

[@WebWheeler]

Yeah the anti spratter would have been handy haha. Thanks for watching!

[@holdthatdown6695]

All Axles all day! Love this shit bro! You got a sub

[@WebWheeler]

Lol pretty much! Im going to start uploading the project this is going in to and that's where I'll really branch out to things like mounting axles haha. Thanks for the sub!

[@allanwagner4570]

subbed

[@WebWheeler]

Thanks a lot for the sub! Really appreciate it

[@huckstirred7112]

liked and shared

[@WebWheeler]

Thanks man! I have big dreams for this channel to be something different than all the others out there and support like that really helps

[@phantomwalker8251]

i would of saved 20.30 mins,& just say,dont do it.period.im sure 300 bucks for a lunch box is a better option.with no damage.

[@WebWheeler]

A lunchbox locker is not a better alternative to a welded diff. 37"+ tires or big horsepower will blow a lunchbox locker and/or your carrier so it ends up costing way more than $300 and puts your "no damage" idea out the window. A diff that is welded correctly can handle all the tire and HP you can throw at it. If it's not what you need, then don't do it on your rig. Saying "get a lunchbox locker and don't weld it" is a ridiculous generalization and is plain wrong