Weldtec The best Econoline Lift Kit WTD or Nothing | Action Van Suspension Cheaper & better ?

[@tonylopez272]

John is right About Action Van Suspension vs WTD They both have great suspension Lifte kit's About a year ago I had bought my 1989 250 190 class B Ford Falcon Camper Van BrickNose! I've seen videos on Jeremy's platform WTD I seen a few of his old brickNose that looked just like mine That he was working on For customers So I was all about WTD!!! I didn't know nothing about Action Van suspension. So I drove out to San Diego where he was located to get an estimate. He quoted me 10000 plus because he wanted to do all the extra stuff Since mine was 1989 he wanted to update all the wheel bearings and bushes pushing everything on Me which I didn't want he said he wouldn't do it without it It wasn't safe so I was like right now I've gotta save up 10000. ... So when you look up lifted Van who pops up is JohndrivesAnything I checked out one of his videos and it was on Action Van Suspension and that's how I found out I didn't even talk to John at that time On his platform so I called Action Van suspension and they Quoted Me 4000 . And I believe it was Larry I talked to he said he was the owner really nice guy and very smart I talked to him about the (Bent I beam Lift kit ) and he said that we don't do that here and it's not safe. We do the drop down bracket. So all together with installation is $4000 I've learned so much about lifted vans through John's Platform @JohndrivesAnything

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

I cannot wait to see your van lifted man! Bobzilla13 has a sick bricknose 4x4. It's going to be cool to see a variety of lifted vans at the meet with different kits. I earn every penny I make picking up boxes and work 60+ hours or more when it's available. I know there are a lot of people like me where every penny matters and a couple thousand dollars may determine if you can get a lift or not and that's why I been making so many videos about this topic lately. I been getting a new person every week telling me that they want to get their van lifted now and thanks for the heads up on lift kits available for these vans. I'm glad you are hyped up about your van and excited about getting it lifted.

[@camposvazquez]

Mr Lopez... Do you have any video on you Intervec Falcon... Is it a 17 or 19 footer???

[@tonylopez272]

@@camposvazquez 17ft

[@camposvazquez]

@@tonylopez272 aw some... Any video on it?

[@tonylopez272]

@@camposvazquez Not yet but I'm trying to learn The whole KZbin video thing I want to see if John can mentor me on it

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

Ive been working on my G30 4x4 van all day, got the old transfer case out. Dropped it off at my local shop to see if it’s rebuildable. The van was my grandfathers, he bought it in 1982. I helped him put in a 454 out of a 1990 3500 dually back in 95 when the old 400 blew up. Grandpa died in February and the van went to me. I’m excited to get it running again. 👍💪

[@DanTheMan_75]

That’s an awesome story man, I hope you enjoy and honor your new van! Are you going to John’s Van meet?

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@dbartocci as these meets grow I want to go to different spots in the US so more people can participate. My plan is to do a Northern California one possibly the Redwoods so more people can make it sometime early next year.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Hell yeah man! My 2 choices for vans was a Ford With a V10 or the 8.1 Big Block express or 7.4 454. As a Car guy I need a V10 or Big Block! You're in Northern California right?

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

@@JohnDrivesAnything Yes, Stockton. The good thing about my van is the motor is perfect and it’s registered and insured. Once the transfer case is sorted out I’ll be looking for meets, I know my van is rare and unique and people are constantly asking if it’s for sale, lol, I’ll never sell it.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@@fordxbgtfalcon [e-mail] Messege me a picture man!

[@boblavrinovich8657]

Everybody has an opinion and no opinion is perfect but John is sharing his passion for lifted vans, kudos John!

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

I just want to see all my friends lifted! I talk to so many people on the verge of affording a lift kit and wont show up to a meet unless they have a lift.Sebastian showing up among lifted vans made him get a lift 1 week later. I understand lol.

[@themadnomad5361]

I spent the weekend at a Walmart in Ellsworth Maine and seen allot of nice off road Riggs there, I seen a few 4 Wheel drive Vans and a couple that weren’t lifted but had modified front Fenders to be able to run larger Wheels and a few lifted Vans to.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Nice man! You are way on the other side of the USA!

[@themadnomad5361]

@@JohnDrivesAnything yes I am, I have been thinking about driving your way but I am not sure I would like it out there, I am from New England and even when I go down south for the winter I miss it up here.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@@themadnomad5361 Love the geography of this place but not the people running it. I do my best to ignore the B S and enjoy roadtripping and off roading at all the great spots we have. If you ever go hear stay out of the city and visit the cool camping spots. We have Forest,mountains and Desert.

[@OVERLAND_ADVENTURE]

Man that action van lift might be the way to go.

[@DaVanatic]

Really does seem that way

[@sebastianslife91]

It sure is

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@OVERLAND_ADVENTURE I made a list of my friends I want with a lift. You are on that list buddy!kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGbEiX2moM6DadE

[@keithsullivan7992]

great work as always. Can you tell me more about the awning you got ?

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Here's how I installed it. ARB makes similar gutter mounts studio.kzbin.infoIQUmiqK2d1o/edit

[@katrinaassoumou1531]

Great networking. Enjoy your day. Amen

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Thank you my friend. Always appreciate your encouragement.

[@tufftrails]

Been watching your "lifted Van" vids so much that every time I see a van on the road, I am reminded of your channel. Hope your doing well...

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Thanks buddy. Just working 6 days a week lately. Just waiting on the Parts for my rear locker. After that I'm going to get a new radiator, hoses and waterpump so the cooling system is on point to tow my Tracker. Really want to camp with my Tracker Regularly once 2024 hits.

[@unlimitedhardwoodflrs8292]

14 yrs ago camburg was $2450 4.5 lift , I slso did 2 inch level kit giving me 6.5 lift with 35 inch tires,as well did front, rear hellwig tactical sway bars, steering stabilizer did get actionvan,van drives incredible and van a lot power 5.4 ,did by van new 2006 E359;cargo super duty,,van been pulling 16 ft trailer weigh little over 10,000 lbs ,van does get great mileage suprisenly 11 around town 14 on hwy ,if actionvan time had 6 inch lift would went with that and 2 inch level kit would gave me 8 inch lift would been nice , also did van build my business look exactly like my 2 wheel drive one but it's 4x4 with 40 inch tires on it, I do recommend Larry actionvan though,have talked bought things there larry very helpful nice guy.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Me and Larry have become good friends. He showed up to one of my lifted van meets unannounced and helped me out big time with my rear locker. Here's a video I did when I visited him at Action Van kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXzSiImulLKUgK8

[@michaelcain2737]

What’s nice about weld tech lift is that your getting new bushings for everything

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

At the time I got my WTD lift I didn't get new bushings all around and I got my kit installed with them. Is this something new they are doing? If so then that's nice. As of 2024 they now charge $5200 installed vs $3500 installed for Action Van do new Bushings all around would be nice.

[@The_Ballo]

WeldTec doesn't appear to sell springs, only installs

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Weldtecs 5 inch lift with just a rear lift block is up to $7000 installed now.

[@The_Ballo]

@JohnDrivesAnything more than the value of the vehicle lol

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@@The_Ballo Did a lifted van meet last month,. 7/21 vans were Action Van Suspension. The founder of Action Van Suspension even went to the meet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYTRd4Kmhtxri6M

[@kingofshmups3390]

Action Van All the way!

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Weldtec or have no lift and be happy? Or spend less(be able to budget/afford a lift) and go with Action Van and have your spirits lifted along with your van?

[@tonylopez272]

That's how I felt about WTD I was super hyped up about that lifte kit but not the price he just wanted to update it everything on my Van to a 2007 And up Said mine was too old and needed to be updated

[@sebastianslife91]

My spirits are lifted bout 6 inches 😌 love vans to death. Thats a great video. Its cool to drive a van again ❤

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

You get another crack at Hungry Valley soon!

[@billystray7007]

Action van is weld free, correct?

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Correct. Here's some more footage of me and my friends with Action Van and Weldtec Lifts kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWHQeYp8q7OsjNE

[@hushai5154]

I wonder how high you could lift using drop brackets and bent beams?

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

I always wondered if you can do a 9 inch lift if you combined the 2 concepts! Did you catch Weldtec there in the comment section lol.

[@hushai5154]

I just read it, I’m not nearly qualified to make a definitive statement (I’ve never even driven a WT.) But it’s hard to imagine the average two wheel drive van enthusiast pushing their ride to the extreme it would take to find out. My van is finally in the shop, be done tomorrow I hope, 3.73 to 4.88. Running on 33’s I’ll be a dragster for the first 100 yards. I’m building traction bars just because I feel like it. I’ll send you pictures via email.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@@hushai5154 Action Van actually had the edge on articulation. Weldtec also left me a comment on that video. All they can say is " Dope Video" They got Check Mated.

[@Socalhodaka]

Where can I get a pre runner light bar for the bumper like that? 2008 e van

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

This light bar was made by ORW. I got it 10 years ago and pulled it off my last van build. Unfortunately I think they have been discontinued. Here's one of my friends on youtube with a Similar light bar. I would ask him where he got his www.youtube.com/@OVERLAND_ADVENTURE

[@sebastianslife91]

I get down sometimes like all of us and I see your videos and I feel like I'm right where I'm supposed to be. ❤ #liftedvans

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

That's why I made so many of these videos lately. People really want to build a cool van to explore life more and for some people a lifted van is a way to express yourself within the automotive hobby. Not as many lifted van fanatics as the Wrangler and Tacoma guys but I think a lot of us are every bit as fanatical.

[@josephd27]

Lift it

[@sebastianslife91]

6in 😮

[@zacharybeauford2244]

Was considering action van lift but than for a few grand extra I could get U joints 6” 4x4 DIY conversion kit (probably $8k if I’m frugal). Have you looked into their kit? Would like to see one of these 5” lifts next to a 6” 4x4 conversion. I assume they sit a bit higher since 35” tires are the norm.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

I'm going to do a video why I didn't go 4x4. My dream for the last 10 years was to have a nice lifted van that can make it out to the middle of nowhere and tow a Suzuki Samurai/Suzuki Sidekick/Geo Tracker with me. Sleep in my van and wake up to off roading. I'm going to replace my radiator/hoses and Water pump for preventative maintanence and once I get re-geared I'm going to start towing my Tracker out to the desert at the beginning of next year. I have a friend with a Brick Nose Old Body Style Econoline 4x4 who's showing up at the October Meet. We will line them all up! We got Action Van, Weldtec ,spacer lifts and potentially a U-Joint showing up.

[@camposvazquez]

Zachary please can you link the Ujoint kit... Every kit I saw going 4x4 is $14k plus without shipping

[@Will-vy9qi]

@@camposvazquez There is no ujoint conversion for 8k, theyre probably looking at just the lift

[@camposvazquez]

@@Will-vy9qi that makes sense...

[@unlimitedhardwoodflrs8292]

Gm drop down spindles

[@WeldtecDesigns]

The comments section is always fun! Thanks for the great video JON. Let make sure we are comparing kits and products properly, The entry level kit from AV is $2089 and would be more compared to the Ocotillo Cruiser kit by WTD @ $2300 which is a difference of $211. But the WTD kit is going to come with fox shocks which is a $289 upgrade on AV site, putting their kit at $2378 making it MORE EXPENSIVE then the WTD kit? You still have the core charge that sucks but we will WAIVE the core charge for 5 of your followers who tell us that they are sent from your channel. Lets us know if we can help answer any other question as we are happy to help. WTD

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

Is this Jeremy or Jeremys Social Media guy? Contact me at [e-mail] or message me on Instagram same user name as this channel. I have some ideas for the lifted van community if you want to participate I think your fans will get a kick out of it.

[@Bajavan1]

Good God John get some fresh content! I can’t handle these vids any longer…same content EVERY time! You and Sebastian miss a lot of points comparing the 2 brands. You are not comparing apples to apples between the kits. When I go to 33’s or 35’s next, I’ll prefer to have the tires stay out of the rear fenders. WTD moves the front wheel forward to prevent this. I have had 3-4 F250’s and other makes with Bilsteins and you cannot compare them to Fox or King since they are custom valved to the vans. Also, you may not jump your van, but I have used up all of the front travel on my WTD WITHOUT “jumping” it. So what if I need to have the shocks rebuilt every few years…Don’t compare lifted van handling to sports cars! The owner of Camburg has been in desert racing for decades, so he has the proof to say drop brackets are not the preferred way to correct camber on beams. It has to do with the roll center of the suspension, which is felt in everyday driving. Beams have been bent for decades. That is how they aligned vehicles with I-beams before there were ball joints (king pins until 1991 in vans) in them to accept upper adjustable cams to correct alignment. He has sold thousands of kits, and there are thousands of vans without front sway bars on them with this kits, and they still handle 100 times better than a stock van. Anything with modified, raised suspension, will handle differently during evasive maneuvers. John, you should get rid of your WTD suspension if you hate Jeremy so much. I don’t care for him either, but REALLY stop the broken record!!! I am out…

[@sebastianslife91]

Stop watching 👀

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@adventure_ready we've hung out twice and have talked for hours bro. You know what's in my heart when it comes to this community. I just want to see my friends with a lift I don't care which one. Take care see you soon.

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

@adventure_ready and I will always take my friends criticisms/advice into consideration. I know I have been rehashing this topic a lot lately. I actually had no intention of rehashing this topic this many times but I been getting so many messages in the last month about this topic and thankyous for the heads up on lift kit options because they want a lifted Econoline but WTD is too expensive. I even made sure in this video to give WTD and AV their props and say none of their kits as far as I know has had reports of catastrophic failure. Even though I'm not a fan of Weldtec the company I do want people who are inspired by them to spend their money on their kit if the budget allows. WTD has employees some people do enjoy their content and they aren't asking for donations so a great thank you to them is buying their kit. For every 3 people I annoy rehashing this topic 28 appreciate it. There are new subscribers who are seeing this topic for the first time through this video. It's impossible to please every one. On 1 hand I tell me self man I talked about this so many times. On the other hand people are messaging telling me thank you and ask more questions. I will try not to rehash this topic so many times. I'm just doing my best in life man in work and my channel. Building up the funds for my rear locker and when that's in I can do some fresh content. When I start uploading Fiat Videos again I hope to see you comment on them and thumb them up because no one likes the Fiat.

[@camposvazquez]

Bajavan I checked the camburg website... The only offer a bracket lift... Why is that?

[@hedlcm]

@@camposvazquez They say their kits are 100% DIY. From a certain year onwards they recommend bending the i beams but what happened? The company they used to bend the i beams retired so they only offer drop brackets

[@harmonica212]

I like these van's these are real van's. Van's rule. There are more photos of this van and the blue Chevy van in the video. The Chromezilla has 49 i9nch tires and 26 inches of life. The blue Chevy van had 44 inch tires not it has 47 inch tires and 19 inches of lift. 1979 Ford Econoline 4x4 Van. CHROMEZILLA! by Bart Kilraine III. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHmwnpV6arCopLc How Bart gets into his 4 X 4 Van, CHROMEZILLA. 1979 Ford. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3SsY5htgtmAd9U Chromezilla 4X4 79 Ford 350 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIauqpdtl7uJp9k Chromezilla 79 Ford E 350 Truck Nationals Carlisle 2021 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3rbmWWkm9magbs 2021 CARLISLE ALL TRUCK NATIONALS CHROMEZILLA HIGHLY LIFTED 80s FORD VAN V8 CAGE #SHORTS kzbin.infoNkJiITbqgtg Monster 4x4 Chevy Van spotted Detroit, Michigan Woodward Cruisin Samspace81 #monstertruck Custom Van kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmi0ZWdmf5mWprM Chevy G20 Monster Van kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIeWemuZjNV-Y7c www.pinterest.com/pin/1057360818737279977/ www.pinterest.com/pin/614037730458928730/ www.pinterest.com/pin/953003971124314677/ www.pinterest.com/pin/329044316544921814/www.pinterest.com/pin/135319163799297957/ www.pinterest.com/pin/359162139048124945/ www.pinterest.com/pin/86975836547748030/ This Ford van has 47 inch tires. www.pinterest.com/pin/90494273756509765/ This van has 47 inch tires. It is on a shorts video but it is not coming up. www.pinterest.com/pin/113715959334130514/ Cammed LS w/Turbo 1979 G20 4x4 Van on 44” Super Swamper TSL’s kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYG7hpmomMSUj68

[@JohnDrivesAnything]

You can make these vans as crazy as your budget allows it! Me and my friends do hangouts and we have modest 2wd Lifted builds. We still do a little off roading and take them camping and enjoy them kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoi9iImLnKp5abM