Well There's Your Problem | Episode 34: Ustica Massacre

[@PatrickLockwood]

Was considering doing a fascism but then I learned that makes the trains worse. Won't be doing that now. Thank you for the information.

[@sirrliv]

I mean, look at the guy Trump installed as head of Amtrak who is dismantling US passenger rail from the inside.

[@griffinrails]

b r e i t s p u r b a h n

[@RichardGadsden]

The joke about Mussolini after his visit to the petrol station was: "he didn't make the trains run on time; he just shot anyone who said they were late".

[@piizog]

Viva la trains! Pronouns they/them, mentioned just to annoy a certain section of the audience.

[@alexscriabin]

@@piizog ¡Viva el autobús! he/him

[@csours]

"A silent film is basically the opposite of a podcast" - Really makes you think.

[@kensurrency2564]

A truer statement was never opined.

[@Yora21]

Looking through the comments again months later, I can't imagine this sentence in any other voice but Roz.

[@jorgeluz9560]

Shower thoughts.

[@murciadoxial8056]

we live in a society

[@CykoruKun]

My wife hates podcasts but loves reading about disasters so I tell her what was in each episode after I watch it. Last time when you talked about this Afghanistan tunnel fire and I watched first part, she asked me "So, what was the new episode about, what was the disaster?" So I had to tell her: "Well, it was mainly about goats..."

[@Actual-Knight]

this is very wholesome

[@eleSDSU]

I'm going to disagree, she doesn't hate podcasts, she just likes one specific personal podcaster a lot :)

[@mkepioneet]

Justin calling Sicily "Southern Italy" has now put him at risk at the worst finding himself wearing concrete shoes and at best getting yelled at by 80 year old four foot tall Sicilian-America

[@dragonslaya16]

Sicily more like Sisilly ammiright?

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

Everyone knows sicily is actually part of northern africa.

[@kazmark_gl8652]

can confirm, my grandfather would definitely try this if he found out.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Everyone knows Sicilians don't wear shoes, let alone gift them out to charity cases.

[@josephglatz25]

Yeah, it rightfully belongs to Carthage, and the fucking Romans stole it.

[@Taverius]

As an Italian this was deeply hilarious. If more people knew this they'd understand why we treat our politics like an acid-trip telenovela, and are in favour of the politicians being busy with their drama and unable to govern because it means we can get on with our lives - Italy is a high-functioning anarchy for all intents and purposes. And why we can't take the US elections seriously, ever. I mean you have people who actually believe what the politicians say, which just baffles us deeply, to the point of giving us an existential crisis.

[@MrInsideEye]

Rco zio finalmente un altro italiano nei commenti di wtyp, hai buon gusto

[@DaL33T5]

Don't worry, us Yanks are getting wise to that shit the hard way.

[@teslashark]

Chaos is what happens after all the Italian anarchists were exiled to American and/or to hell

[@compulsiverambler1352]

Getting on with your lives getting sicker and sicker and children getting dumber and dumber from the contaminated soil, food and water that corrupt politicians allowed to happen for decades for the sake of money. Corruption always leads to everyone getting poisoned in the end.

[@vincenzo_turco]

Actually politicians aren’t just busy with their drama, they fail no chance to screw us up our asses, as the IH870 crash has been demonstrating for 40 years, with the phony Top Gun theories

[@XXStoogieXX]

Bring back the Shake Hands with Danger riff

[@DetectiveMekova]

I was just thinking about this.

[@scrungly]

the people demand it!!

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

I miss our dearest Fourth Host

[@Full_Otto_Bismarck]

🎸 🎶 Shake hands with Danger, its the gag we want on the show 🎶

[@griffinrails]

do do doo do do dooooooo

[@kwarra-an]

"the imperial system is more intuitive" love this comedy podcast so much

[@lyndonwesthaven6623]

5,280 feet per mile, why would anyone find that difficult?

[@zakesters]

@@lyndonwesthaven6623 Converting miles to feet is not done. There is never any reason to do it or even to know how many feet "equal" a mile (this is taught in schools only because of the misguided analogical thinking that so often besets the pedagogical mind (i.e. it's "because that's how the metric system works")) because the two have completely distinct uses*. One is used for measuring the dimensions of buildings, human-scale impedimenta, and short distances, and the other for surveying land and planning long distance travel. This is what's intuitive about it: there's no practical reason in ordinary life, quite the contrary in fact, why the exact same unit should be used for all purposes, as is the case in the metric system where the meter is used for _all distances_ (decimeters, kilometers, and the like aren't different units: it's just the same unit in a different notation, like how you can write 1,000,000 as 1x10^6.) The latter is better for science, of course, for international commerce, for advanced manufacture and other things of that nature, but it is certainly not _intuitive,_ if we're using that word in its ordinary sense, since it has to express, say, the typical height of a human being as either a non-integer or a number that is larger than ten or smaller than one. I don't want anyone to take this as a statement of position about whether certain governments should or shouldn't adopt certain weights and measures: I have an opinion about it, like everyone, but I don't hold to it with any particular zeal. I am only talking narrowly about whether the US Customary and Imperial weights and measures are "intuitive" or not and perhaps, more broadly, trying to discourage recourse to spurious argumentation in defense even of a good a thing. It is quite possible to believe that SI should be adopted as a universal standard _without_ asserting that it has no disadvantages or that the systems it would displace have no advantages or that those systems have disadvantages that they do not, in fact, have. *This should be obvious, but let me clarify I am speaking of conversions that have no practical purpose. Conversion of feet to miles is a merely otiose thing to teach a student but conversion between inches, feet, and yards or between anything and meters is necessary, because actual use cases will arise. Also, I am of course speaking of primary education: older students and adults may have occasion to learn all sorts of weird and specialized things.

[@zakesters]

Logged in a little bit after leaving this comment, and there were _several_ recommended videos on my front page that have "metric vs. imperial" as their theme. Nice to know AI research continues to be applied in extremely smart and useful ways that are not at all invasive.

[@disfordumboo4411]

@@zakesters jan misali fan?

[@zakesters]

@@disfordumboo4411 My opinions about Imperial pre-date that video considerably (despite my deliberate neutrality above, I'm something of a booster/apologist for Imperial personally, unlike jan Misali,) but I have watched it and certainly absorbed its language: I certainly feel as though I couldn't make quite as coherent an argument without his contribution. Looking at my reply, I don't think I'm merely repeating what he says, but other people would have to be the judge of that, not me. I will say, though, that the implication that there's something potentially amiss about using the same unit for all purposes (my sneaky way of introducing a pro-Imperial (measurement system) argument) doesn't derive from him at all, as he himself says quite explicitly, and at many points, that he thinks the Imperial system is bad. One thing I did borrow directly, though, was the comparison of SI to scientific notation, but that's more likely to do with the fact that I was probably thinking of the floating point video, which I would have watched if I'd had him on in the background of something (and I certainly don't mean to imply that I _learned_ those concepts _from_ those videos: I learned them in school, like everyone else, but it helps to get a reminder from time to time.)

[@Theoddert]

"Welcome to another concise short podcast" *8 minutes later* bruhbrubruhbruh bruhbrbrbruh bruh

[@postoctobrist]

bruh

[@BlarryOfficial]

Bruhnado is structurally integral to this podcast

[@scullystie4389]

I almost choked on my drink when that shit started

[@diegorivera6531]

@@postoctobrist Please find a way to incorporate this into every future show!!!

[@synthgal1090]

I just got the joke, super mario bruhs

[@giovannitorre2189]

"Al fresco" literally means "in a fresh, cool environment" but the most common meaning is "behind bars"

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Italians have lovely euphemisms.

[@kevinshook2762]

I was in the audience at the Rammstein air show. I was only 10 but still remember the fireball. Shit was nuts.

[@johannageisel5390]

I'm glad you got out alive. But, a little hint: The airbase is called Ramstein with one m. Rammstein with two m is the band.

[@keelhauling]

Worth noting that the continuous rod warheads you mentioned are specifically designed to cut planes in half (or, failing that, sever hydraulic and fuel lines). So, let’s say for Whatever Reason you have some form of IR seeking missile going after a cooperative/oblivious DC-9. The missile would be fired from the rear aspect, then proceed to home in on the heat from the tail mounted engines. Assuming it didn’t just fly up the tail pipe (pretty unlikely given the bang-bang controls IR missile guidance used at the time, especially if there were low visibility conditions diffusing the IR signature), the missile would approach then overshoot the heat source. At that point, the proximity fuse would activate, detonating the continuous rod warhead just in front of the engines, pretty much the exact spot to cleanly slice the plane in half at the toilet. My point is, love to get split in half at the shitter by a continuous rod.

[@MundaneAxiom]

Some poor bastard got split in half right along the asscrack by a sidewinder, the two halves of his poopy butt falling to the ocean kilometers apart

[@Raw774]

You are a poet

[@americanfootball8694]

bravo

[@OhShitSeriously]

My favorite kind of Friday night.

[@mayajade6198]

Now I just want an espionage comedy movie set in 1970's Italy where a completely mundane airplane crash leads to a colossal chain of conspiracies, cover-ups, and counter-conspiracies trying to pin the crash on each other and getting brought to their boiling point by this crash that had nothing to do with any of them.

[@okayokayfineilldoit]

directed by chris morris

[@joshuahadams]

In the end it was some random mechanic who accidentally stripped a bolt on the engine nacelle and didn’t notice.

[@pkunkbwok]

the Los Angeles police helicopter thing is absolutely true - like don't expect to hold a conversation at speaking volume in your own living room because there's just rotor noise all evening

[@eloisemason]

I can’t find either Milo’s breakaway podcast or Noah’s Disastrous House of Plenty in my podcatcher. Am I searching wrong?

[@huskarlar961]

Anyone who thinks if D.B. Cooper would have been certainly found if he had died is not familiar with the Cascade Mountain Range.

[@lamidene8139]

I know this is a 3 year old comment but it always baffles me when people say that. I’m very interested in wilderness search and rescue and missing person cases. It’s not unheard of for a full sar operation not to find a person, only for their remains to be discovered just a little ways off a trail years or even decades after the fact. A human is very small and easily obscured amidst any significant patch of wilderness.

[@josephglatz25]

Yeah, the world is kind of, you know, deceptively enormous, and quite frankly, the likely outcome would have been DB Cooper getting splattered across the mountains, and then likely becoming part of the food chain. If a wolf or cougar or bear didn't have a truly splendid meal fall out of the sky for them, vultures would, and if vultures didn't get him, bugs would, and if by some bizarre coincidence, there weren't any flies or ants that could find him, bacteria would.

[@annafdd]

As an Italian I have to say, you MASSIVELY simplified the whole issue. What about the radars being turned off for maintenance and the logs going missing and the defecting Lybian pilot and mysterious aircraft movements in the Mediterranean? and you left out the TWO train bombings in the Bologna-Firenze tunnel! And Pasolini’s murder for that matter. You mentioned Roberto Calvi but left out Michele Sindona! There is material for an eight hours episode here! Also the Italian secret services are not so much incompetent as being chiefly charged with covering up and confusing things, and you have to admit they are astoundingly successful at this.

[@q3st1on19]

Lmfao the Italian keep your secrets service

[@midgetwthahacksaw]

​@mas-udal-hassan9277Huh? No Society ever till ours you say? Someone jasnt studied history very well.

[@zencowboy23]

Justin: When I open the door to the bath room in the plane I don't suddenly, like, lose object permanence, right? Alice: Brag much? best out of context quote of the episode 1:25:32

[@davidl6558]

Alice, the fastest snark in the West.

[@garlandward4372]

that "PLastiiiiiic" sound byte hit me like a ton of bricks. It all came back clear as day. Aye, but its based on REAL treasure!

[@zw345]

51:12 for anyone else who wants to listen to that drop again.

[@garlandward4372]

@@zw345 thank you. I considered finding it but I was too lazy lol

[@pineapplepizza27]

Can anyone tell me what it's from?? I recognize it but it's been burning my brain for a year trying to remember

[@garlandward4372]

@@pineapplepizza27 it's from the episode of spongebob where they're playing the board game and then they go on the treasure hunt with mr krabs. I cant remember the name of the episode but I'm sure some light googling will uncover it

[@jaysea5939]

@@pineapplepizza27 spongebob episode, youtube[dot]com/watch?v=gq2GzcTyMVU&t=10m47s

[@steafra]

Being "al fresco" in Italian is a way to describe being in jail, probably referring to being dumped in a damp, cold (fresco) dungeon...we eat "all'aperto", in the open air

[@finian3288]

Can’t believe that this was actually the Tacoma narrows bridge episode in disguise

[@strredwolf]

"Maxim 43: If it's stupid and it works, it's still stupid and you're lucky." --70 Maxims Of Maximally Effective Mercenaries.

[@PobortzaPl]

Does Schlock Mercenary had some kind of resurgence in popular culture? It's about 3rd time someone mentions Maxims in comments under quite different videos.

[@strredwolf]

@@PobortzaPl It's been around for a while, about 20 years, and it's wrapping up it's major storyline (which took all 20 years) this year. The web comic has had an effect by far.

[@PobortzaPl]

@@strredwolf Shit, I am old. I first started reading it before graphics upgrade...

[@ExperimentIV]

love that Roz is running a ProCo Rat between the mic and his audio interface (maybe one of those ridiculous 1/4 inch guitar cables that has a Rat circuit built in that ProCo makes now... wish i was kidding!) at times. a great choice of distortion pedal that i must respect

[@OlegUstimenko]

Next guest should get a hm2 in the chain to compete

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

Gotta get that 80's industrial noise feel into the sound somewhere.

[@ExperimentIV]

Oleg Ustimenko only if it’s dimed and they’re completely unintelligible as a result

[@ClaudiaNW]

Now that I've listened to the whole thing, that was a really eye-opening, informative, well-presented episode. I honestly had not realised how many of the archetypal problems with Italy - corruption, the Mafia and so on - were consciously, cynically shaped by the CIA in the post-war decades. I knew about the PCI and the achievements of Red Bologna (and about the cooperative economy the PCI built when they were in power in Emilia-Romagna) but I had no idea about the CIA-funded Masonic lodge. It's also terrifying that the CIA did so many things that, at the time, would have seemed like insane fluoride-in-the-water conspiracy theories, but that we now know actually happened. Growing up as a British teen, my view of the CIA was shaped by Tom Clancy novels and similar propaganda. Unironically - great job, guys (and girl). Thank you.

[@robk7266]

Why did the CIA do it?

[@ClaudiaNW]

@@robk7266 Presumably to stop communism and advance the financial interests of the US ruling class? Just spitballing.

[@Dong_Harvey]

@@robk7266 actually, they probably didn't even know they did it, it kinda happens with these intelligence agencies, they forget which hand they are using to jack whomever dick that paid them today

[@scarylion1roar]

WTYP is an appropriate call sign for the podcast since Philadelphia and Glasgow are east of the Mississippi River 😆

[@EddieScottable]

I can only image the check-in line for this plane - one guy with a sidewinder, one with a nuclear device, and a kitchen full of explosive pasta

[@kanalkucker14]

😂😂

[@joshuahadams]

Don’t forget the guy with the sea mine and the lady with the comically oversized derringer.

[@GigasGMX]

I can’t believe Alice doesn’t know that D. B. Cooper lived. Where do you think Tommy Wiseau got his money?

[@samdaley8484]

Tommy Wiseau revealing himself to be D.B. Cooper is the only thing I want to happen in 2020.

[@FloraJoannaK]

From xkcd, right? I borrow their jokes too haha

[@WaterMan416]

@@samdaley8484 it would be one of the less shocking things to happen this year.

[@blackvulture6818]

I did not hijack the plane. I did not! Oh hai Mark

[@Erlec]

Ahh Operation Gladio. One of the most crazy stay behind groups as far as we know. They may also be responsible for the Tacoma Narrows disaster! Find out in the next episode!

[@aturchomicz821]

Why didnt they just return to Vehicle Assembly (1h, 45m ago) to save this disaster from ever officially happening smh

[@Cathemera]

If you're building your plane in the VAB, you're already doomed

[@acassiopeia6439]

@@Cathemera Unless of course you built one in the Hangar, then went to the VAB to perch it atop an obscene rocket.

[@kjj26k]

@@acassiopeia6439 O B S C E N E Praise the Kraken

[@aturchomicz821]

@@Cathemera bruh clips.twitch.tv/StormyLightClintmullinsPanicBasket

[@kabobawsome]

My KSP motto is: "You can always have a 100% success rate if you have time control powers."

[@ClaudiaNW]

It's 5.53 pm, I'm already mildly drunk, and listening to Alice playing the Mario "bruh bruh bruh" theme tune is deeply confusing. Also I am nearly 9 minutes in and still have no idea what the Ustica massacre actually is.

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

a small price to pay for the god damn news

[@seanomatopoeia]

Well after 3 hours I'm still not certain exactly which disaster they were talking about in that Afghani tunnel.

[@midnite1112]

Being an hour in and suddenly remembering this is supposed to be about a plane.

[@WaterMan416]

@@seanomatopoeia I think it was just a poorly thought out tunnel. Less a big bada boom disaster and more a worthless waste of financial and physical resources.

[@JustJezBeingJez]

​@@seanomatopoeia It was about goats.

[@scorinth]

RIP Roz' mic.

[@cmarano]

Alice wins it again this week for mentioning the excellent 'Documentary' "Porco Rosso". Aren't we all Communist pigs?

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Certainly rather be a pig than a fascist

[@cmarano]

@@dylanchouinard6141 Almost 100 years later and the battle still goes on.

[@pkunkbwok]

'The Chicago Maoists' is my new ska band

[@JobboFett]

And your in-flight meal options today are Chicken Rigatoni with RDX, Spaghetti and Amatols with 50/50 reduction sauce, and for dessert we have PETN pellets in a Picric Acid sauce.

[@kanalkucker14]

😂😂

[@Huntracony]

I _really_ hoped that the USS Fancy Lad was the actual name, because that is an amazing name for a ship.

[@jizburg]

Oh. I thought that was a joke XD

[@himethisisme]

I hope you never activate Windows.

[@lazamair]

The unofficial mascot of this podcast!

[@excitableboy7031]

@@lazamair that would be the tacoma narrows bridge

[@Solinaru]

Anti-capitalist praxis by not registering software

[@flametitan100]

I was totally expecting "guest" to not just refer to himself by name and continue being known as "guest".

[@arsenicjones9125]

Only the FAKE fans want shorter, “on topic” episodes.

[@DrCog-wm8jm]

Word. It's the fuckin rona outside people. You got somewhere to be?? I could listen to these goofs shitpost all day!

[@BlarryOfficial]

At least we keepin' it in a single episode. Found it difficult to watch part one, then wait a week, and then remembering what lead to whatever we talking about in part two.

[@BlarryOfficial]

Those two-part episodes would work great with a short summary of the first part at the beginning of part deux.

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

shorter two parters are allowed only for the sake of justin's sanity

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

They also want it to be jokeless and less critical of the (very racist) Dutch, so I hear 😂

[@GilTheDragon]

TIL Eco's Foucault's Pendulum is less a fiction & more of a "The names and places have been changed to prevent a lawsuit" less than a minute later: "It was literally Foucault's Pendulum" ILY'all

[@GilTheDragon]

between plastic explosives &... please say explosive plastics better name for plastic explosives: squishybooms thinking explosive plastic Lego bricks

[@OkSharkey]

@@GilTheDragon lego bricks are dangerous enough without also exploding tbqh

[@GilTheDragon]

OkSharkey it's like a caltrop crossed with a landmine

[@drewgehringer7813]

@@GilTheDragon Spicy Plasticine

[@ThePinkus]

The official reconstruction of the MiG-23 crash on the Sila is that it happened a month before the Ustica massacre, though of course that is contested by the thesis that it was connected with Ustica. It remains the problem that it doesn't have the range to fly to Ustica and back (I'm assuming the pilot would like that, the second part specifically), even conceding that a Libyan MiG would be allowed to fly through NATO airspace back then (as an escort to Gaddafi's flight). One of those funny Italian things is that the Air Force was sued for Ustica, and there were two separate proceedings, one for the penal responsibilities, and one for the civil responsibilities (reimbursement to the relatives of the victims) and in conclusion, the Air Force was found both not guilty and guilty (respectively to the two proceedings). It was guilty of not assuring the safety of the air space, thus failing its mission, I guess this doesn't make sense without the assumption that the aircraft was shot down. It's interesting that we have achieved not one but two definitive sentences on the matter, if not for the fact that they contradict each other...

[@erganappio]

You mean a month LATER, Ustica June 27th, the Mig July 18th.

[@TheRealColBosch]

Regarding McDonnell-Douglas buying Boeing and making it bad, it reminds me of when American bought US Air and made itself bad. I worked air cargo for a decade, and when American took over US Air they went to shit overnight.

[@EngMadison]

We went to Italy for our Honeymoon and after a week saw nothing but train highlights on the news. No weather, no local news, some national news...but they did get a new train and wouldn't stop talking about it. We used the train and loved it BTW...and Italy.

[@prjndigo]

"plastic explosive" means there is a plastomer in it to retain shape, hygene and conduct the shockwave as well as provide a material to vaporize and produce higher expansion. This includes Research Department Explosive Nitroamine blended into honey as well as when you leave the fuel-oil in the drum of nitrogen fertilizer. Often referred to as "composition" as in "Composition 4, RDX + dioctyl(sebacate/adipate) and polyisobutylene (the only actual plastic, the previous compound is an adulterated fat). For some reason England uses lithium grease, making their PE4 toxic but that was replaced in PE7 along with an added antioxidant "for reasons". didn't expect the comment to blow up like that but "shit in go-boom" is a fascinating subject for rainy days The newer US composition that includes colloidal aluminum (aluminium would be an unrefined alloy of isotopes stupid england) that is superheated by the shockwave which when blown out atomically into the surrounding air produces a MUCH stronger heat-bloom. It isn't actually the detonation that produces the shockwave, it's the interaction of the superheated material spraying out in molecular and atomic aggression through the comparatively stagnant air which does so, kind of like how nuclear weapons in space have piss-all for yield. The boom actually only comes from once the fines slow down enough to interact with the air, the crack of the explosive detonating is almost always hidden within the air expansion boom. Hope that helps y'all in the footur.

[@maddieaboutyou3959]

Happy to see you took my recommendation for more banter, thank you!

[@__-jt4tv]

"Watch the Documentary - Porco Rosso" My throat hurts, I shouldn't have laughed that hard at an unexpected joke...

[@ExperimentIV]

my dad screamed at me relentlessly when i pointed out something he was incorrect about and i can barely breathe and i’m out of my anxiety meds but at least this got uploaded today. at least i have a coping mechanism today

[@ExperimentIV]

sorry for even posting this im just in genuine distress and this is all i have right now and i really, really do appreciate it

[@ExperimentIV]

Joe Average he’s usually good, he’s just going through it while im trying to recover from something that hit me really hard bc i already had ptsd. i went no contact with my mom who abused me my whole life until i cut her out, and it was one of the best things ever. my dad was a victim of her abuse too, so sometimes shit gets bad. i guess because he’s going through his own shit separate of me he’s just not having an easy time listening to what i really need him to hear right now. it’s hard when both parties are dealing with a change, but he has to realise the power dynamic difference between us. he has learned a bit, so i think he might be genuinely trying, but struggling. but im also really struggling and it’s a feedback loop and stuff. my mom was an abuser whose abuse was rooted in narcissism for sure. my dad hasn’t always been this way, and on better days, he’s the dad i’ve known my whole life who was a ray of sunshine who definitely kept me from offing myself before i was twenty. thank you for caring so much about a sad stranger, comrade. hope to see you in future comments on future videos and shoot the shit about happier things.

[@grmpEqweer]

@@ExperimentIV Hey, hope you're doing better.

[@ExperimentIV]

@@grmpEqweer hey, thanks. not today, but i’m trying to keep it together. i cant afford a new computer and being unable to work currently means money is impossible for me as a member of a capitalist society. so tired of it. but i’m still alive! still doing my best!

[@grmpEqweer]

@@ExperimentIV Ouch. I will hope for things to get easier for you.💐

[@acassiopeia6439]

Have we considered the synthesis of the toilet bomb and the shootdown scenarios, a missile struck the plane right in the shitter?

[@ExperimentIV]

holy shit... your MIND

[@joshuahadams]

The assassination of Uesugi Kenshin on a bigger scale. In 1578 at the age of forty nine Uesugi Kenshin, the Daimyo of Japan’s Echigo Province, went over to his palace outhouse to take a shit, and allegedly an assassin with an iron stomach hid in the cesspit below the outhouse. He had been suffering from chest an stomach pains for the last few weeks, though, so he may have just been sick and it took a nasty turn in the outhouse. Or he got stabbed in the ass. No one’s really all that sure since it was like 500 years ago.

[@missingexpert990]

"No Gods, No Masters, No Stairs" Needs to be a Sticker!

[@mathewkelly9968]

Most Australian infantryman in Vietnam carried 2 pounds of plastic explosives , great for demolishing bunker complexes , but equally useful for starting fires in the rain .

[@abandonedchannel281]

Thanks for covering this incident, it’s one that’s been particularly interesting to me since I saw a documentary on it

[@ahamlinfan7224]

18:37 "Im buying goya products." "What the fuck are you gonna do with Sofrito?" Im dead

[@schaulinnoam]

The night trains from Milan/Rome to Sicily are actually really nice. And the ferry is quite cool I think. The last train ferry in Europe... And its part of the national rail network, so its nationalized! If you're ever in Italy you should do it.

[@ErenMortel]

as a filipino its so nice to hear the word 'adobo' in a very familiar accent

[@sparkpenguin]

this was one of the hardest-hitting broad-stroke messages you guys have done in an episode; it was subtle but huge, that that last twenty mins especially. thank you for a nice big long deep funny dive oh no

[@arsenicjones9125]

Alice could use a midi drum pad to do her drops. It can be set up in software w “scenes” so the limited number of buttons can be assigned to a larger number of samples. Scenes may not be the right term but you get the idea.

[@ExperimentIV]

Chad Rector akai makes an 8 pad and 16 pad sample player that also works as a pad controller for the computer and i assume comes with some software to replicate the same thing the hardware can do on the go

[@lyndonwesthaven6623]

But would it open up with a nice manual crank that makes a satisfying clicking?

[@colette2529]

this guest is a bona fide icon - I love this man whose name I have forgotten

[@THEcamobackpack]

Love opening my Gladio lootcrate from the graveyard in Verona

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

Yay, another air crash episode, as a spanish aviation fan i still haven´t forgotten the Los Rodeos episode.

[@raycearcher5794]

"Named for James Earl Jones' flagship" ...So the Executor?

[@allypoum]

Ace ep guys. With material like P2 & the Strategy of Tension it's hard to go wrong!

[@AncestralFruitcake]

Anarchist here, can confirm I jump out of 4th story windows on a daily basis.

[@midnite1112]

The bruh drop is the load bearing part of this episode

[@ken-dog]

RDX compounds don't need a casing, as the solid turns to gas at such a rapid rate, but adding a solid mass as a backing, like a wall or a tree, will help direct the force to where you want it to go. This principle is used to create cutting charges.

[@kaycashew]

As a kid, I used to fly on a DC-9 between Detroit Michigan and Buffalo NY to see my grandma all the time. Glad I didn’t die!

[@ExperimentIV]

“fuck off with kilometres” “no metric system podcast” cannot wait for this podcast to accidentally gimli glider itself

[@ExperimentIV]

(PLEASE cover the gimli glider! you can laugh at it and not feel at all guilty because nobody died, there were no serious injuries, and it only happened because canada was in the middle of switching from imperial to metric. also the captain flew an actual wide body like a glider so like... it is basically 100% comedy in retrospect. all it resulted in was basically a bunch of people soiling their pants either literally or mentally)

[@TetrapodsOfLaniakea]

@@ExperimentIV my favorite disaster ever! The kids on bikes. Must go faster. XD

[@ExperimentIV]

S. S. D. RandomWord i mean it’s like one of the only disasters you can laugh at guilt-free because nobody died or got seriously hurt!

[@TetrapodsOfLaniakea]

@@ExperimentIV And features an amazing screwup followed by amazing gliding skills to save the day.

[@ExperimentIV]

S. S. D. RandomWord god the cockpit that day was just on its shit

[@zimmerwald1915]

1:14:31 I thought "spicy" referred to radioactivity on WTYP.

[@kensurrency2564]

I’ll allow it. This time.

[@josephglatz25]

Hearing Roz call Larry the Cable Guy, Jeff Foxworthy, and Bill Engvall kulaks just made my day.

[@chrismarco17]

For the "Family Friendly" News, you could call it the Gosh Darn News.

[@WaterMan416]

The Gee Golly News

[@OpreRoma]

I think the only things that make me feel happier than seeing a new W,TYP podcast uploaded are my partner, my cats, and cannabis. Is this sad? Keep up the good work! They/them or she/her

[@ExperimentIV]

no, you have a partner and cats and enjoy cannabis (she/her, currently sobbing and being inappropriately open about it bc that is how distraught i am)

[@ClaudiaNW]

I have no partner, no cats and have never tried cannabis (I prefer alcohol), so no. But my job makes me happy, at least sometimes. And of course WTYP.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Gonna start a petition to get Liam's audio as good as everyone else's Please

[@Silkenray]

Yay more organic chemistry!

[@scrungly]

this refers to the dynamic of the hosts, right?

[@Silkenray]

That too.

[@henrycurtis3652]

50:26 anarchists are against the hierarchy of multi-floor buildings

[@monsoonmast]

Lol

[@vwj9132]

I have listened to all your episodes and it took me until now to realise that your " we have slides " line is not a bit lol

[@terjethornqvist4361]

Foucaults pendulum is a blody amazing book btw, should be on the must read list for those that have not already done so.

[@marxmeesterlijk]

let's check; -2 hours long -air-crash disaster -the word massacre in the title. This is going to be a depressing one, isn't it?

[@lostinmilan]

I didn't reach the end of the video, but there are some mistakes here and there: 32:33 Alcide De Gasperi was not the continuity with fascism. He was arrested by the fascists when Mussolini was in power. 42:00 Berlusconi when the P2 scandal came out(1981) didn't control all the media. He owned one single young tv channel (Canale 5) and at that time he wasn't even authorized to have news or live shows. He was mostly a building contractor. He built the neighborhood of Milano 2 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milano_Due (and later Milano 3). He entered into politics much later in 1994 when Mani Pulite happened. 52:12 Aldo Moro was not the prime minister when he was kidnapped. He was the president of the Democrazia Cristiana.

[@seanmac1793]

Also there were other targets in Rome that weren't communist neighhoods. That's another mistake they made

[@giuliettadeglispiriti7365]

Berlusconi controllava quasi tutta l'informazione italiana, in quanto ricopriva da PdC sia la funzione presidente di Mediaset sia perché la RAI apparteneva al governo e il CdA veniva nominato dallo stesso. Se poi consideriamo il fatto che Il Giornale era di proprietà di suo fratello e la Mondadori era di sua proprietà, oltre al fatto che parecchi giornali come Libero e Il Riformista erano totalmente allineati con le sue posizioni, completiamo il quadro

[@m8sonmiller]

[walking into airplane bathroom] WHERE THE HELL AM I

[@ouroboros2519]

Concise *checks runtime* Ah yes...

[@michaelkitchin9665]

I'm disappointed this wasn't marked "Part 1"

[@helloofthebeach]

She was so proud of herself for keeping everything tight last time that she treated herself to a soundboard, guaranteeing it will never happen again

[@Why_Blue]

Finally the bridge episode

[@TheSebnembora]

It is so comforting somehow when sb acknowledges what the US has been doing in other countries. This is more meaningful coming from an American. Thanks for that.

[@grmpEqweer]

...Our government and our country has done enough horrible stuff to other countries that an encyclopedia of misdeeds would be useful. ...Or maybe an Americrimes wiki... ...That would be a big job to do and do accurately, and I'm not a historian. Have a good day.

[@PickledThyme1]

One note: most people who commit suicide actually don't leave a note. That's mostly a TV and movies sort of thing.

[@nowhereman6019]

I feel like the Rashomon reference really fits this whole event very well. A horrible crime has been committed, everyone has a different story, nobody is telling the whole truth, and the more you learn about the whole situation and context surrounding it, the more quickly you lose your faith in humanity.

[@littleferrhis]

I will say one of the big issues is the only reason the CVR goes to the NTSB is because the NTSB is known to be very good at recovering the data. A lot of these boxes are manufactured there and if the box had been sitting under there for 12 years the NTSB was going to give them the best chance to recover it.

[@Wenamun]

I know I'm not the first to say it, but Justin holy shit you're peaking in this. Still a great episode. Thanks, Guest.

[@devinfaux6987]

I have an aunt that genuinely believes every conspiracy theory is true and happening simultaneously.

[@user-fs9mv8px1y]

Ustica Massacre? No, its more of a Albany Extinction

[@ClaudiaNW]

I do see Justin's point about corporatesque titles like "city manager" (or, in the UK, "chief executive"). Prior to the late 20th century in England the equivalent post (the professional head of a municipal government's civil service) was called the Town Clerk, which was much better. But in the US city/town clerk is a different job.

[@jordannewbold8769]

What happened is this: someone ate pasta-shaped plastic explosives because they thought it was pasta, they then detonated when they tried to poop them out on the plane.

[@domtanko7160]

The Adobo comment was golden!

[@Theoddert]

Justin if you want to bully me in order to satisfy The Transphobia Quotant to get your twitter back you totally can. I'll take one for the team

[@ericjamieson]

5:53 no surgeons can do better than Cesnas. That's why the Beechcraft Bonanza is called the "Doctor Killer."

[@mrpieceofwork]

Now I know why I have such trouble in airplane bathrooms, thanks to Liam.

[@Calpsotoma]

Justin sounds like he needs to turn his gain down.

[@redbasher636]

Just a bit. Its okay if he is a wee bit louder since he is the host and we often have him being talked over.

[@Calpsotoma]

@@redbasher636 Gain is more than just volume. Having it too high up basically compresses the audio and makes it harder to hear him clearly.

[@GorgeDawes]

Or just back off the mic a bit.

[@conigliostressato]

You missed the Alex Jones - Aldo Moro connection! (There’s also a Licio Gelli - JFK cinnection, but it’s more feeble)

[@ivymorgan6625]

Is justin recording using the cockpit radio from a DC9?

[@pandastaubball3167]

'Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Propaganda No. 5'

[@whoever6458]

I had my bat mitzvah in the 90s and didn't get any gold chain with my Hebrew name on it. I got some books and some money though, but I will say that I've made more money singing in a little alcove downtown that just so happens to have good acoustics and I get to sing drunk instead of having to sing at the synagogue in front of WAY too many people as a sober 13-year-old, plus I get to sing what I want and I can get the sense of kind of hiding behind my guitar too.

[@alexwright6038]

The aeroplane looks like it has lost it's newness. That might be the problem. I love how seriously you take this podcasting I look forward to your future episode on the rise and fall of Solar City.

[@surrow6192]

You guys are very good at saying you're going to do a focused episode then doing the literal opposite of that.

[@hirvox]

The focused episode is in queue, right after Tacoma Narrows.

[@cyrusfried3362]

Please put captions back! The older episodes had captions and I miss them so much

[@ExperimentIV]

Cyrus Fried alice does the captions and i imagine it takes her some time to do so. she’s usually very good about it though!

[@szymonp1701]

54:40 started watching Utopia s02 right after pausing on this slide WTF WHAT ARE THE ODDS

[@Reactordrone]

I get all of my knowledge of Italian politics from Dario Fo's Accidental death of an anarchist so I particularly enjoyed one part of this..