Undeniable PROOF Clutter Is The Result Of Prior Trauma | Narcissistic Abuse

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****** Today we’ll take on an eye-opening exploration of the complicated world of clutter as a trauma response, particularly in the aftermath of narcissistic abuse. You might find the key to healing here if you've ever felt like your life was too much of a mess, both physically and emotionally.
Sources:
Bourg Carter, S. (2015). High-Octane Women: How Superachievers Can Avoid Burnout. Praeger.
Saxbe, D., & Repetti, R. (2009). No place like home: Home tours correlate with daily patterns of mood and cortisol. Journal of Environmental Psychology, 29(1), 95-103. doi:10.1016/j.jenvp.2008.11.006
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@yourenough3
@yourenough3 25 күн бұрын
Its brutal , its criminal. Anyone whose been through this feels drained and lifeless. I find calm with nature , the stillness , the breeze , the sunshine and the rain helped me deep within. ❤
@TeaRose9
@TeaRose9 23 күн бұрын
Same for me. I was happy and able to function better when I lived on five acres in the peace of nature.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 11 күн бұрын
That sounds amazing ​@@TeaRose9
@julieangle9721
@julieangle9721 6 күн бұрын
Those are natural and beautiful things to lean on, happiness and peace to you, nature I definitely relate to ❤😊
@jimstenlund6017
@jimstenlund6017 5 күн бұрын
Bird watching, photographing flowers, sun exposure…good reading ( personally, I find reading best outside, possibly because I’m away from my clutter? )
@maryquinlan3683
@maryquinlan3683 4 күн бұрын
Pp😊 Li 😊😊😊p😊😊oo😅​@@TeaRose9
@_Breakdown
@_Breakdown 22 күн бұрын
Clutter as a trauma response is not just limited to this “narcissistic abuse” - - it can be from other types of trauma.
@MQtheAI
@MQtheAI 10 күн бұрын
and that's why these types of youtube channels need shutting down, thank god AI is here to deal with misinformation. These types channels just divide society its over for them.
@nickbarber2080
@nickbarber2080 7 күн бұрын
Nothing this video says is untrue,but it leaves out a huge amount of the picture.
@magisterhpp
@magisterhpp 7 күн бұрын
Indeed. Warcrimes are in the picture....and states who committed them do not like that.......
@jessiematthews6339
@jessiematthews6339 2 күн бұрын
This was my first thought, too. I was trapped in clutter long before I experienced narcissistic abuse. I grew up in trauma and chaos and have always been a mess.
@_Breakdown
@_Breakdown 2 күн бұрын
@@jessiematthews6339 no worries.😉 We all get hit with baggage in our lives. Welcome to the human race. Good luck in your struggles. 🙂🍀👍🏼 Move closer to God 🕊🤍 and God will come closer to you 👩🏻‍🦰🕊
@truedepthaquaponics7118
@truedepthaquaponics7118 6 күн бұрын
I think its reversed, I think the "stuff" doesn't cause the anxiety. Rather the "stuff" or clutter is just a symptom of what the person is already feeling
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Amen. It could be either way, or even both ways (as in each reinforces and pushes the other.) But I really don't like when someone mistakes correlation for causation. I mean, there's a correlation between birds chirping and singing and the sun coming up - does that mean the birds cause the sun to rise by their singing?? FFS!!
@truedepthaquaponics7118
@truedepthaquaponics7118 4 күн бұрын
@@brushstroke3733 lol xD yeah. Definitely can become a downward spiral of sorts
@susanwallcraft1864
@susanwallcraft1864 17 күн бұрын
As a 67 year old woman who was held in check by Narcississtic parents and then a husband, I always knew it was weird holding on to some of these old things... even the case of my favorite empty blue liquid eyeliner that I used Sr. Year in high school. That was the best year of my life. As I face my fears, my past, forgive those who hurt me, and gradually CLEAN OUT MY CLOSETS, I am finally healing. But with a lot of prayer for help too.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 11 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think we just need to tell our stories to someone, in order to let go of the object. Simple human connection
@meemawdragon9964
@meemawdragon9964 7 күн бұрын
We can almost be twins. Same narc mom, narc grandma we lived with, then married a monster for 41 years. I’m doing the same, cleaning out boxes and closets and even entire rooms. I now have sunlight coming through the windows and birds singing (I buy sunflower 🌻 seed for them, because it makes ME HAPPY) God is good, finally. But I do wish for more friendships, I wish we could talk more 🥰
@meemawdragon9964
@meemawdragon9964 7 күн бұрын
We can almost be twins. Same narc mom, narc grandma we lived with, then married a monster for 41 years. I’m doing the same, cleaning out boxes and closets and even entire rooms. I now have sunlight coming through the windows and birds singing (I buy sunflower 🌻 seed for them, because it makes ME HAPPY) God is good, finally. But I do wish for more friendships, I wish we could talk more 🥰
@meemawdragon9964
@meemawdragon9964 7 күн бұрын
@susanwallcraft and keep a few items that are special to you. Maybe a shadow box with a few items behind glass, just for you, to look at when needed. As I heal more every day, I find I can let go of more and more things that don’t matter…. And keep those that give warmth and smiles. ( I happily burned my wedding album, I did keep a few pictures, what a glorious day!)
@user-ds1mz2te2n
@user-ds1mz2te2n 6 күн бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Old52Guy
@Old52Guy 15 күн бұрын
Survivors learn growing up that they can't depend on anyone. Things become an alternative to family: things never lie, when you need something it is usually there or easily findable (if you don't have it you probably threw it out the previous week), and they become a type of barricade or fortress.
@BudgetInnovation1
@BudgetInnovation1 6 күн бұрын
Superb explanation!
@pikeflowed
@pikeflowed 4 күн бұрын
Ive thought about the fortress/protection aspect, like building an impregnable wall around myself so i cant be hurt, your explanation is very good and insightful.
@samsmom1491
@samsmom1491 4 күн бұрын
Oh, wow! This is deep and cuts too close to the bone.
@Old52Guy
@Old52Guy 4 күн бұрын
@@samsmom1491 Is that good or bad or inbetween?
@Old52Guy
@Old52Guy 4 күн бұрын
@@pikeflowed Thanks. One would almost think this was my story ;-)
@weaviejeebies
@weaviejeebies 10 күн бұрын
For me, it's a manifestation of the freeze response. Cleaning makes noise, it shows exactly where you are in the house. Clutter also makes noise. It warns you someone is coming. It slows them down. Another aspect is that if they call you a slob and demand you clean up, and you comply, this shows they've got you under their thumb and now the demands are going to skyrocket. Embracing the mask of lazy slob allows you to say no to them in a way they can't shred like they do every other attempt to stop the abuse.
@barbarastrayhorn4667
@barbarastrayhorn4667 6 күн бұрын
Very smart. I had been told that laziness is a form of subverted rage. It makes a lot of sense and clears up a lot of my habits too. Good luck.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Very clever! I sometimes wonder if my unusual sleep schedule (go to sleep when the sun comes up, get up between 3:00 - 5:00 PM) is similarly a type of freeze response or self-defense. I have a very hard time saying no to people when they ask something of me, but keeping such unusual waking hours seems to give me a reasonable excuse. This may also by why I avoid using or looking at my cell phone or email for days and sometimes even weeks on end. I'm just hiding and avoiding. I hope I can learn to start parenting myself and thus finally grow up into a full-fledged adult who can take accountability and responsibility for myself and others. I'm 47 now - I'd like to at least reach maturity before I die! As in being able to say no, being able to express anger in healthy ways, being able to accept rejection and failure without feeling worthless, etc.
@L6FT
@L6FT 3 күн бұрын
I also use clutter to hide things as a deterrent from stealing my stuff. I know my own clutter best, and will notice if something is out of place :-)
@DefiantAngel87
@DefiantAngel87 9 күн бұрын
Keeping the objects for memories feels nice at first but when it becomes clutter, it feels overwhelming and depressing. It is not comforting.
@bombshellgirl8106
@bombshellgirl8106 4 күн бұрын
Oh my gosh, I appreciate you saying this. Exactly what I needed to hear. I didn't recognize that it causes me overwhelm and is depressing later. You are EXACTLY right. Thank you!
@SecondLittlePig
@SecondLittlePig Ай бұрын
I've known this for a while, but I really need to overcome. I have to accept that I can't change the past. That is the hardest thing to accept.
@ecysmith6652
@ecysmith6652 6 күн бұрын
I struggle with the same issue. I pray for us and for all the other survivors of these horrible creatures who harmed us.
@HikaruYamamoto
@HikaruYamamoto 3 ай бұрын
Living in my parent's cluttered home is really draining. I am not allowed to even clean it.
@tomschmitz8884
@tomschmitz8884 3 ай бұрын
Why don't you get the heck out of there then?
@sperosversis3678
@sperosversis3678 16 күн бұрын
Any time I've attempted just orgainize/tidy up/the clutter nightmare my mothers home has become... I'm immediately bullied and verbally assaultedl, suddenly I'm no longer a 58 yo adult, but an 8 yo child being scolded by "mommy." ... it's sick.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
​@@sperosversis3678Tell her to F off! Mother is a role, not an intrinsic quality. You're an adult, so now she no longer has that role! She's just a pushy woman (though disturbed and traumatized herself) that thinks you owe her some kind of blood debt!
@samsmom1491
@samsmom1491 4 күн бұрын
​@@sperosversis3678 You need to try to keep in mind the anger is not about you. I suggest watching some of those extreme hoarder rescue videos. They get into the psychology of what's behind the behavior. My mother would 'clean' my and my sister's room by gathering up EVERYTHING on the floor, putting it in trash bags and throwing it away. She threw away my Barbie Beach van (1970-ish), Madame Alexander dolls, books, Disney watches, jewelry my grandparents brought back from their travels. It was absolutely gut-wrenchingly devastating. She never touched the Mouse House dollhouse my aunt made for me, so she knew what she was doing. My aunt would've lost her sh*t if mom had touched that house. I once tried this with my first daughter, realized what I was doing, gave her back the trash bags and we went through them, one by one, and I TAUGHT her how to clean her room.
@malhunt7
@malhunt7 3 күн бұрын
Same ❤ ​@@sperosversis3678
@evil7529
@evil7529 6 күн бұрын
Hey guys, stopping the self gaslighting and naming what the parent did and saying it out loud to even one person helps a lot. As I unpack childhood memories I can actually get rid of the clutter little by little.
@L6FT
@L6FT 4 күн бұрын
Yes, I do a daily practice where I write out my fears, ask them to be released with prayer for energy focus and inner calm, then tear the paper to shreds. It has helped me tremendously like speaking things out loud, but releasing and not holding on.
@Sweetlyfe
@Sweetlyfe 3 күн бұрын
@@L6FTThat sounds like a really good tool to help keep anxiety at bay, and just clearing your mind for the day. I’m going to give it a try. Thank you.
@L6FT
@L6FT 3 күн бұрын
@@Sweetlyfe It came to me fra Anna Runkle (Crappy Childhood Fairy ), she calls it "the daily practice". It has and still does help me a lot. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ3GlKugbtuWp5Ysi=83c4xbxZwXFN5fOj Resentments can be written out as well, but always followed by because "I have fear...". I'm resentful, because I have fear. The prayer/invocation I use is: "I am now ready and I hereby release these fears and resentments. I seek now a clear vision of what I am to do today and the energy, clarity and inner calm to do it well". Sign name on page, tear to shreds, then meditate for a bit until deep breathing occurs. Best of luck to you.
@balewaalimayu4925
@balewaalimayu4925 3 ай бұрын
Well I guess this includes me. PTSD!!!
@Poodle_Gun
@Poodle_Gun 3 ай бұрын
It sounds like it's a demonstration of hypervigilance. Also, maybe mess is kind of used as a shield against the narcissist.
@crookedfingersgirl7356
@crookedfingersgirl7356 Ай бұрын
Yes, as an adolescent and until I went the extreme opposite way as a teen... Strange how so many memories are returning to me recently because at the time I vowed not to let myself forget (cause if I forget: then I really am the only one who caused all my problems like I was told... )... TYSM for your comment... And sorry you had to protect yourself by forming a physical barrier with things 😭😢.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
What about when you live alone and still have clutter, or have only ever lived with clutter when living alone? I used to live a very uncluttered life, but in the past few years it has become an issue. Same with my elderly mother.
@TeaRose9
@TeaRose9 23 күн бұрын
This is the best description of people who have gone through narcissistic abuse and the reasons for clutter.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 11 күн бұрын
It's especially fun when the abuser accuses you of being a hoarder in court. And that seems to be enough for the court to take away your home. Children, everything you own. To have the CAUSE of the "hoarding" blame you for something THEY CAUSED. But that's typical of their kind
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
I respectfully disagree. I thought the descriptions and explanations given here lacked substance.
@cherylberk4593
@cherylberk4593 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video andexplanation. I have always kept a spotless home, but I actually had a series of traumatic events based on betrayal by my most trusted family person. Then stonewalled, gaslit, lied about, the whole 9 yards. My home is not dirty but it is cluttered, definitely certain items trigger me. Recently I began to throw out strange things. I bought new tableware and threw out the old. I literally couldnt eat off the memories of the old dishes. Same with my wardrobe! I am now in the process of donating a lot of things, buying new. I couldnt understand it, I felt crazy, unable to wrap my head around the betrayal, the discard, and the lies spread behind my back. Now Iknow I am actually getting well. Again my sincere thanks. I have spent 2 years learning everything I could about narc abuse. Physically, my normal bp shot up very high, meds werent working so I changed my diet to lower cortisol, it worked! These people will kill you if you let them. It is not you, it is them. This takes time to heal. You can never let them back into your world bcs they have no desire to change. God bless us all❤️
@devorynligons8384
@devorynligons8384 Ай бұрын
Very good article
@caesareamutze3997
@caesareamutze3997 26 күн бұрын
Your words made me cry, getting into resonance... wish you all the best, blessings and faces next to you, that make you smile from deep within . Big hug 🤗💞
@TeaRose9
@TeaRose9 23 күн бұрын
I just went through a similar family betrayal situation and going through another one now and I was stuck in freeze mode and not able to function to accomplish much of anything in my house.
@thistree9028
@thistree9028 5 күн бұрын
I’m now enjoying my greatest strengths: my creativity, honesty (not brutal), and generosity. What is the saying? Your yes is as good as your no? I can say no, yet enjoy my generosity which has more integrity - there’s a balance beyond the narc circle of death. Yeah, they’ll kill you if you let them..right it’s not you, it’s them. Reclaim yourself and move on..give it time too. Thanks kindred for your comment ❤!
@crookedfingersgirl7356
@crookedfingersgirl7356 Ай бұрын
TYSM. I'm really really REALLY stuck in this. I'm getting older and scared I'll never be able to recover completely. I DON'T want to live with these feelings and constant confusing, conflicting, circling thinking...(I go back and forth on ALL THINGS now. I either deep clean, super categorize, 'spotless'..or (and more now as I aged/severe disabilities) general tidy but CAN'T get all the last finishings done: the organizing papers, the little objects, ESPECIALLY anything tech, i cant even begin to keep an address book/calendar... Everything like that gets grouped n dumped into a bin and never touched. And I mostly forget or don't know where I put it so I go buy more of the same- and the cycle begins again... I'm just so confused because I'm in the 'safest' environment I've ever been! So WHY are my symptoms worse 😢.... At times I miss the overdone super organized version of this symptom (which: I couldn't ever maintain, a pigsty would occur, then I'd do my 'one big clean/get my self together' episode; not eating not sleeping and "get it all done in one go" of a day and full night- until done... Which is NOT authentic healing either I guess 😭)... Sending support to all who suffer with this!!!
@Lukearthwalker
@Lukearthwalker Ай бұрын
I completely relate to you and your situation in every way, support returned. It may take more time than we'd like but we'll still get this done eventually, one way or another!!! 🚀
@angelcoyote9802
@angelcoyote9802 15 күн бұрын
When we are finally safe, our body/mind will begin processing what wasn't safe to process before. That's why our trauma can seem worse once we become safe.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
What else is going on in your life that might be stressing you? Lack of close friends or relatives? Lack of meaning or purpose? Lack of exercise and time in nature? Poor diet and nutrition? How is your mental health otherwise? Are you experiencing any short term memory loss? Perhaps you are overwhelmed by the size of the task in front of you. Perhaps you never really built the skill of taking one bite at a time and chewing it thoroughly (metaphorically speaking.) And perhaps like me, you have a degree of learned helplessness operating. Perhaps the thoughts in your head tell you that you CAN'T do it (that is learned helplessness.)
@kayr4751
@kayr4751 4 күн бұрын
@@brushstroke3733 short term memory loss was how I found out I had D.I.D. I was in a prayer line trying to get help and after the person prayed for an hour, she got my email and started to help me find myself through prayer and truth, and then I helped another Lady, who asked me to help her find herself. We both had migraines that we lost as we got healed of being split off.
@czntrm
@czntrm 2 күн бұрын
Some of the things I struggle to let go of aren't connected to memories, but rather things I wanted to add to the dream life I envisioned one day having only to have it sit in a closet for years gathering dust, because I can't make it fit into my real life. It's of no use to me, but getting rid of it feels like letting go of a lifestyle I'll probably never achieve. It hurts too much to admit that my life is not how I wanted it to be.
@incognito595
@incognito595 Ай бұрын
Of course it is. It is a reflection of one's State of Mind. It's Elementary.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
My dear Dr. Watson!
@priskruger314
@priskruger314 3 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤
@syzygy4365
@syzygy4365 12 күн бұрын
I'm not a bad hoarder, I can let things go. There was a point in my life I thought I could just toss things out and then just replace them later. Except some serious situations and abusive situations later that comfort never returned. I wonder if this is how others problems start or if it was just my life experience. I'm not a bad hoarder. I just collect things I feel I'll need. I also recognize shopping is a coping skill. Keep it cheap, because happiness isn't in the package for long. 😥
@chanteandrews849
@chanteandrews849 Күн бұрын
My narcissist was the clutterer but blamed me and now I freak out internally over disorganized spaces
@carrie6157
@carrie6157 14 күн бұрын
Omg this is ME !!! 40 years with a narcissistic husband and I have clutter!
@aquaearthnfirequ_pinsnsavi1721
@aquaearthnfirequ_pinsnsavi1721 10 күн бұрын
I had no idea. Is this why I went from being a person who never wanted to hang on to anything to all of a sudden I'm a hoarder who struggles heavily with throwing anything away? 😢
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Maybe it's a healthy form of processing what was previously avoided or swept under the rug. Maybe it will help you to reclaim yourself and autonomy. Maybe it's there to help you begin to be a better, more adult parent to your inner child. Maybe it is your inner child screaming for your attention.
@bombshellgirl8106
@bombshellgirl8106 4 күн бұрын
EXACTLY what I'm going through.
@alicec.6195
@alicec.6195 11 күн бұрын
I watch these videos to try to understand my dad. He had a very difficult relationship with his father through his whole life. My grandfather passed in 2007 and my dad still keeps all of his father's stuff to this day, on top of hoarding random things too.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like your dad had some form of Stockholm Syndrome (prisoners loving their captors.)
@dontbelieveeverythingyouhe5599
@dontbelieveeverythingyouhe5599 5 күн бұрын
Also being overwhelmed with task
@tirionpendragon
@tirionpendragon 3 күн бұрын
Clutter for me is also a form of survival instinct, if you keep everything at sight unconsciously you feel like you have more resources than what you actually have and it's only a matter of finding them, clutter feels like: "you can find everything you can imagine here, if you search enough and you really need it".
@pixelletickle
@pixelletickle 5 күн бұрын
I moved from my narcicist family home at a young age, my sister unfourtunately has stayed (financial reasons) and her room has been a clutter landfill for years. I struggle to understand, I struggle to help her, but this information helps a lot.
@robertfansler7800
@robertfansler7800 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was just owning more stuff than you have room to keep it.
@ds7900
@ds7900 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I find it hard to attach paper clutter to atrachment.
@TeaRose9
@TeaRose9 23 күн бұрын
That can also be part of the problem.
@truedepthaquaponics7118
@truedepthaquaponics7118 6 күн бұрын
If you don't have it you won't understand it
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Same here, though I could see the link between buying stuff I don't really need and emotional coping.
@w8what575
@w8what575 2 күн бұрын
I’ve noticed it’s to keep people away from my personal space….i threw out my couch because I got tired of having to tell people no they can’t live with me…now I say I don’t even own a couch….once my son is grown and out of my place…idk what I’m gonna do…he’s my reason for saying absolutely not…I find it odd that random people some how make their way to my door and want to befriend me and within a day of knowing me, ask me to help them find illegal stuff or a place to live etc as if I’m someone else..it’s odd that people would do that so of course my paranoia kicks in because I’ve recently discovered the biggest narcissist in my life has been my mother and my dad also at times….the narcissists in my life did make me finally realize I deserve much better then the treatment they’ve all given me.,.I’m just me and idc what anyone says or thinks… at least I’m not fake
@DyedInTheWoolDem
@DyedInTheWoolDem 4 сағат бұрын
I agree. My hoarding and cluttered home are what keep me from having company or guests in my home. My father was a hoarder, like the ppl on the show, “Hoarders.” When he died more than a year ago, we (his children) had to go in and clean out all the trash in his house. As he got older, things got so bad that we couldn’t get into his house. My brother stepped in and sorted through his junk to locate anything valuable before throwing out the junk. And his home and yard was so full of dangerous things that some of it had to be hauled away. He lived with mice in his house…many mice. We sold his home “as is” due to the disrepair of walls and ceiling from broken pipes. When the house was sold, some of his clutter remained. It was very sad. I’m beginning to clean out my clutter and have found things I purchased years ago that were hidden under other stuff. I take after my father, which frightens and motivates me to get cracking.
@ukchris64
@ukchris64 11 күн бұрын
My clutter is the response of having all of my lifes belongings in one place which is a bit too small, sadly I am well settleed where I live so no move for me
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Is there anything you don't really need? I have more stuff than I have room for currently as well. I remember an older co-worker of mine that had a incredible discipline. He and his wife would not keep anything they had not used in three months (maybe it was six) except perhaps a few things like seasonal decorations or clothes. I really admired that strategy but haven't come close to adopting it. I have boxes and trunks full of stuff I haven't used in 20 - 30 years!
@ukchris64
@ukchris64 4 күн бұрын
@@brushstroke3733 Same here, but a lot of it is sentimental so it makes it a little harder for me
@kayr4751
@kayr4751 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for this post and for all the commentors who have given me more insight today. I have been healing for decades from extreme trauma and auto immune dramas. I have learned a lot and overcome a lot including D.I.D. and the lack of trust in myself. The clutter got worse as I was healing more. Now I see you have to make a mess to clean one up. I also learned these past few years that what you focus on gets bigger. So, if I think about how much something is a problem that problem gets larger as shame and helplessness gets attached to it. This year I am finding things I held onto to give to my kids and grands that they will benefit from or use. I also pray that I will not bring home anything I won't use or don't need. If I got this far , the rest will fall into place as I allow it to. Blessings to you all, may you find your peace. Amen
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Amen!
@kayr4751
@kayr4751 4 күн бұрын
I will add to my post that when someone tries to clean my home around me, I go into a panic. My bipolar mother would be dangerous while the house was being cleaned and I had a lot of traumas done to me while the siblings and I were doing chores. As the D.I.D. has been healing I have to go in another room and distract myself if someone is cleaning, I forgive everyone involved that was out of their minds doing the devils work to hurt me. I repent of judging them and myself for not being healthier. amen
@maylani3697
@maylani3697 13 күн бұрын
It’s difficult to ask for help from those who don’t understand that the clutter is a psychological response to trauma. Clutter creates a psychological barrier and a sense of security to deal with the pain and abuse. People assume that the clutter is because the person is dirty and messy. The person who has already been traumatized doesn’t need the additional judgement and scrutiny. It just activates the PTSD.
@BudgetInnovation1
@BudgetInnovation1 6 күн бұрын
Well said!
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Yes. The first thing most of us people with mental health issues (meaning ALL people!) need to do is to stop judging and blaming ourselves for our conditions and circumstances. Guilt and shame only cause us greater trauma and greater disfunction. We must learn to sincerely love and appreciate ourselves as we are currently made before we work on improving. It's like removing a sick plant from contaminated soil before applying fertilizer, CO2, light, etc.
@pikeflowed
@pikeflowed 4 күн бұрын
Im a survivor of NARC abuse for 35 years of my life, my house is packed to the rafters with stuff, i can barely move in some places, so yes, this video rings very true for me, 2 years " Free " of the toxic A-hole, it will be a long road of healing ahead, that's if i ever do..
@cjnoneya4927
@cjnoneya4927 10 күн бұрын
hmmm. the only narcissist I can think of in my life is this uncivilized civilization and I spend half my time locating the tool or item I need 😅
@czntrm
@czntrm 2 күн бұрын
I know I have issues with loss after having the 2 biggest narcissists in my life robbing me of precious personal things and disrespecting my personal things.
@boethius1812
@boethius1812 Ай бұрын
Definitely true for me.
@mirabela1344
@mirabela1344 3 күн бұрын
STOP! I feel called out
@michaelweinstock7952
@michaelweinstock7952 4 күн бұрын
Thanks, Dad.
@crookedfingersgirl7356
@crookedfingersgirl7356 Ай бұрын
And yet: I can do so in full JOY for people. Especially the ones I love or care for.... AND: feel safe while doing it. My heart accelerated and my jaw, neck, spine, chest TIGHTEN, and my mind starts racing and I think I can't do this before I even TOUCH an object... I hate this...
@mubeenahmughal6892
@mubeenahmughal6892 Күн бұрын
Same! Came hère to write this. I definitely think a part of me only feels comfort when i experience large amounts of stress. Tackled a lot of my home, clothes but my room?! I can’t even let someone else clean it without having a Panic attack Sometimes
@lisafeck1537
@lisafeck1537 Күн бұрын
I find absolutely ZERO comfort in chaotic clutter. I understand the link, the result of the abuse is clutter, and clutter represents what has happened to our senses, our mind, but I get nothing good from my clutter. It makes everything worse. It makes feel useless to change it, and angry. Things I don't need, use, want, have too many of, been hauling from home to home. Things given, things I'm saving for someone else who probably will never want it, things bought I was going to "do something with", alter, paint, repair, it is a fantasy, it never happens. Grrr!
@BrittanyLynnOfficial
@BrittanyLynnOfficial 13 күн бұрын
Pray for me lol. It's funny how people will cause things and be the reason behind it and then also blame you and hate on you for it and the effects of their doing since birth isn't it. 😅
@cindyloppnow1621
@cindyloppnow1621 5 күн бұрын
Extreme minimalism could be attributed to trauma as well.
@lettinggrace
@lettinggrace 6 күн бұрын
Or they have verbally and emotionally abused you so much, your struggling physically to even be able to clean.
@marilynmouton9818
@marilynmouton9818 3 күн бұрын
Very worthwhile thank you 🙏🏻
@shirleyhaugaard9643
@shirleyhaugaard9643 3 сағат бұрын
I feel guilty if I throw good usable stuff but I don't have the energy to find new homes for everything. Waste not ,won't not hangs over my head even though I am financially secure I'm always waiting for the axe to fall,Things might change, I might need it in the future. Blah,blah.....
@DominykaSchrei
@DominykaSchrei 5 күн бұрын
Nah, my clutter is a result of OCD. It's important to remember that people are different.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
When you give AI a prompt to make a video, it tends to stay within a very limited scope, as this video does. If it was made by a human with experience in treating mental health issues, it might have been much more nuanced and expansive.
@virginiamelanin0510
@virginiamelanin0510 Күн бұрын
Clutter and true CDO don't mix
@DominykaSchrei
@DominykaSchrei Күн бұрын
@@virginiamelanin0510 It mixes quite well. Please don't say what you don't know. It's offensive to OCD sufferers like myself.
@saramichaels3853
@saramichaels3853 4 күн бұрын
Anything salient to the actual topic starts at 5:23.
@larryphelps6607
@larryphelps6607 4 күн бұрын
i have become ms. Havisham.
@BobTheSchipperke
@BobTheSchipperke 6 күн бұрын
Americans have a huge area for improvement on this. Sounds dumb but try to move often as it forces most people to purge.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Yes, we are a culture based upon consumerism. Moving does help to seperate the chaff from the wheat, but it's also hard.
@BrittanyLynnOfficial
@BrittanyLynnOfficial 13 күн бұрын
😢 true. 😢
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
6:13 This kind of reasoning really annoys me. Correlation DOES NOT equal causation!!! Just because a study finds a "link" between cortisol levels and clutter does NOT mean the clutter causes the stress! It might, but it could just as easily be the reverse - that the stress causes the clutter. It's also possible that neither is a cause but rather that there is a third or fourth factor involved. Watch out for this unintentional (and sometimes intentional deception) that happens all over KZbin!!
@pauletheridge2412
@pauletheridge2412 3 күн бұрын
Holy smokes. Info might be good but AI text is 3:13 difficult to listen to.
@user-ki8mg5jh3n
@user-ki8mg5jh3n 12 күн бұрын
I held on to my headphones because these special headphones.Are purchased as a kid on vacation.Picks up radio stations from the opposite side of other peoples.Another country's nation The narcissist in my life.On the other hand shows the throw out and trash my private property.When I finally got around to being able to purchase crazy glue. To remind the head piece of the headphones The narcissist self-centered.The evil destructive woman explained.You don't need they're broken All It Took was $3 crazy glue to fix the most superior Radiohead phones I've ever owned in my entire life These pair of headphones picked up radio stations in the west in addition to california texas new york boston and I'll never forget that While is inconsiderate idiot destructive worker of the satan. Never replace what she destroyed.She also threw out one of my most price possessions telling me again You don't need that As if it's hers I had a stitch kit that I purchased to cut.Find out that she threw out what I was coming to stitch up😡
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
When did you purchase and use those headphones? Is it possible their amazing reception was due to the strength of radio transmissions at the time? The FCC limits the amount of power stations can broadcast with these days and so their signals generally don't reach more than 50 - 100 miles.
@janncoons7445
@janncoons7445 Ай бұрын
Oh poop another AI
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
So right. The flies are circling this channel!
@tammiehodges9511
@tammiehodges9511 3 күн бұрын
Sounds like he is talking about hoarding more so than clutter.
@isingatlantic
@isingatlantic 14 күн бұрын
I'm allowing all content creators to monetize off my struggle. 66/33 split - 1% to charity omc...
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
How's that?
@nhvkuy4675
@nhvkuy4675 4 күн бұрын
I think ai wrote it. Important topic though
@WaveDPM
@WaveDPM 10 күн бұрын
Ask me! I can explain literally EVERYTHING through a "trauma" or a "narcissistic abuse", this or that! Ask me if you need a content!
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
No need. We could just use an AI video generator like this channel did!
@ryanladwig7927
@ryanladwig7927 7 күн бұрын
My girlfriend doing this to me with help iv been asking for help
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Why do you stay with her if she is abusing you? You are worthy of respect and love. There's no reason to tolerate someone putting you down.
@ryanladwig7927
@ryanladwig7927 4 күн бұрын
There higher ppl here and they screwed my up
@Andorian323
@Andorian323 7 күн бұрын
Is this A.I. generated?
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Seems like it to me! 🙄
@nickf2170
@nickf2170 14 күн бұрын
It's because you are broken.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Bent, not broken. No one is broken - that's just learned helplessness. We can learn to help ourselves, parent ourselves, be a friend to ourselves, etc.
@nickf2170
@nickf2170 3 күн бұрын
@@brushstroke3733 Perhaps you are bent, or someone you know is bent, only you know that. To say that "no one is broken", is a naive perspective. The human mind and nervous system does in fact become broken. If the stress is geat enough or prolonged enough, the brain goes through physical changes. People who experience shell shock are perhaps the extreme example. People diagnosed with true mental illness is another example. People with personality disorders have a better chance at modifying their behavior with professional help. However many are not self aware enough to seek help or even want to improve because they lack the self awarness. I do agree that the mind can recover in many cases, in others, their condition is more chronic.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 3 күн бұрын
@@nickf2170 If the brain can go through physical changes to "break" it, doesn't it seem logical the brain can go through physical changes that restore it? And wouldn't that mean it was never truly broken but only bent? Broken means a vegetable or dead, and for all we know, even the former may eventually be reversable at some point. I think we're just talking semantics and definitions here. Your response got into the substantial meat of the matter of mental illness which is much more useful than either of our simple descriptions of broken or bent.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
Is this another 100% AI generated video? I am about half way through and it seems like one of those, filled with platitudes and generalizations, lacking specific examples, and generally feeling dull and lifeless. There's no life energy in anything AI produces - it's just a good facsimile of the real stuff. It feels like Las Vegas or Hollywood - it's all window dressing and cutouts and empty exteriors. It's like biting into a perfect looking plastic apple.
@mikado_m
@mikado_m 4 күн бұрын
Im pretty sure half the video was just repeating the same 3 sentences..
@EMDrecs1
@EMDrecs1 5 күн бұрын
This is the worst A. I. Narrator I’ve ever heard, get a real person please.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 4 күн бұрын
At least "he" doesn't have a British accent!
@Edward-my9nk
@Edward-my9nk 5 күн бұрын
lol! this is silly
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