Why Jesus Isn't a Hero | Nietzsche

[@WeltgeistYT]

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[@allmightlionthunder5515]

The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake image of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things orphans and ex slaves

[@matttiberius1900]

Christ being resentment free is like a vacuum that attracted it from others. I find it hard to believe that's an accident.

[@zealgaming8161]

Christ is a powerful meme, people will know of Christ, and see the men in their daily lives who they so greatly respect for their charisma, love and virtues. I only know one good man in my life, he raised 20+ kids to adulthood among his own kids. He was a man capable of loving someone else's kids like they where his own. But what was most impressive about him, was that he was a teacher, and a very good one at that. For during his lessons, he tamed the entire school, even the worst of the problem children would listen to his lessons. How is that? Well, respect. Kids would listen to him, because to not do so would be a very "uncool" thing to do, as he was so beloved by everyone, not listening would get you branded a heretic. Social pressure is hell a scary....

[@RNCM_Philosophy]

Read Meister Eckhart's sermons on the attractive power of the cross, you'll find the same metaphor being used

[@pedrobarbosaduarte3704]

@@zealgaming8161 mf really wants to be taken serious after stating "Christ is a powerful meme" 💀

[@markcharron]

"Nietzsche is dead." -God

[@jerrythemike3584]

*Process to 360 no scope Nietzsche from heaven*

[@reallifereviews8543]

LMAO 😆

[@Jp-ui3fw]

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[@vincentibanez1450]

How to tell if you lost your brain without telling you lost your brain:

[@MinhTran-gv3pg]

@@vincentibanez1450 pretty sure its a joke?

[@joaosolreis3004]

I find it fascinating how people who lived hundreds of years after Christ can genuinely believe they understand Jesus better than his own disciples

[@KjernekraftverkOfficial]

WORD

[@S_whoelse]

I find it fascinating how people who lived hundreds of years after Christ can believe they know the disciples and what they did/wrote. Or that they even exist for that matter.

[@alexanderyangov767]

Those disciples of Jesus were from completely illiterate classes.

[@alexanderyangov767]

​@@BRRISING Christians are also very arrogant about the existence of their Yahweh and they are worshipping Yahweh in the most correct way.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

His disciples thought the end of the world was happening in their lives.. jesus lied to them n they believed it cus only fools seemed to abandon their families n futures to go wander around begging for money

[@kiljaeden5405]

I'm agnostic, but I've always loved the phrase *"The kingdom of God is within you"*

[@jamesabestos2800]

And now I know As a Christian

[@BioChemistryWizard]

Wouldn't it be crazy if all the cells and defense mechanisms in your body were actually highly conscious but you just cannot tell from the human brain perspective? All the wars and cycles of history going on inside even your physical body while the transcendental apperception interacts with a celestial plain outside the body?

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

"Hogwarts is within you!" Wow, so profound!

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

You don't need to have any particular metaphysics in order to realize that the kingdom of God is within you. It is something that happens (if you are blessed, and we all are!) and when it happens you know. You know that everything you've pretended to be up until this point is just a mask, and that who you truly are is love, has always been loved, and will always be love. There is no need to desire and crave and grasp and all these things outside of ourselves. We have all we need within us! "The kingdom of God is within you".

[@Faus4us]

Within and without. That puts a whole new meaning to it.

[@redninja4085]

Perhaps a bit unrelated, but have you considered making a video about Nietzsche's relationship with Giacomo Leopardi? He is mentioned very frequently in Nietzsche's works, but I would still find an in-depth analysis of Nietzsche's thoughts and opinions on Leopardi's nihilism and pessimism quite interesting. Great video as always btw :)

[@WeltgeistYT]

Yes…;)

[@redninja4085]

@@WeltgeistYT Thanks for the reply!! Can't wait 😁

[@justinhart2831]

"...sometimes there's a man -- I won't say a hero, 'cause what's a hero? But sometimes there's a man." -- Nietzsche

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake image of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. seems not to be a myth lol HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things orphans and ex slaves

[@briansimerl4014]

It's just a rug.

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Christ is a Hero.

[@MSHNKTRL]

@@briansimerl4014 but it REALLY tied the room together.

[@stevenlight5006]

Wow

[@Aa07aa]

Nietzsche literally proves the point that Jesus is the only one perfect and sinless. The actions of the early Christians don’t match the words in the bible, so therefore you cannot say the words were changed to fit their narrative.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

That is rather PRESUMPTUOUS of you, wouldn’t you agree, Slave? Presumption is evil, because when one is PRESUMPTUOUS, one makes a judgement about a matter, despite having insufficient facts to support one’s position.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@rub3n410, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@ciscoflores5512]

Lolololol noooooooooooooooooo.

[@CrazyLinguiniLegs]

Nietzsche does not “literally prove” that Jesus was perfect or sinless. If you honestly think he does, then you are doing some Olympic-level mental gymnastics with Nietzsche’s words.

[@julianv1828]

​​​@@ReverendDr.Thomas Why do you even write like that? Why so demeaning if you are a supposed "reverend"?

[@williampeters9838]

Perhaps it is the polemical nature of people or of Nietzsche himself but after reading him it baffles me that his ideas are not let to stand alone but instead must be considered as antithetical to Christianity. A mature Christian would not deny his analysis of “the kingdom of God is within you” but simply go a step further and declare that the kingdom of heaven is both within you on earth and in heaven. The hinterwelt philosophy may be a ditch that many Christians fall into, but Nietzsche correctly asserts that it isn’t what Jesus whether man or divine lived. I have found his explorations of human nature to be undeniably revealing and the sincerity of conviction which he displays inspiring. This is not an insufferable “middle ground” remark in which I make any compromise as a Christian, but praise for the ideas of a man who couldn’t believe in universal truths yet spent his life searching for them. Truths cannot be mutually exclusive and while I know that there was not room for God in his philosophy, there is not only room for but consensus with much of his philosophy in Christianity. I enjoy your channel because you present ideas with good will and a desire for truth.

[@WeltgeistYT]

Thank you!

[@PeterM8987]

Consesus with a radical perspectivist who has a deep resentment towards everything Christianity stands for?

[@michaelthompson9540]

I never cared if he was white or black. Or if he was a real person. It is the teachings and path of Jesus that matters to me most.

[@alohm]

I agree with the observation of "ressentiment" A French word for to re-live ones experience. Similar to modern trauma theory. To live and act without regret is how we could summarize many paths, being guided by one's principle, and in service to the I and the other.

[@damson9470]

in service to I alone will result to in service for other

[@iwantanxbox8765]

Jesus was a hero, he did have a conflict. His conflict was with the force of evil(the temptation of the material world for power and glory). I think his conflict was with the very nature of the world(you could argue is inherently evil) which is why he died I think. edit: the story where satan tempts him in the desert i think is a good example

[@whosrichpurnell3328]

Very interesting. I’ve heard this idea of nature and the material world being evil from early gnostics and mystic Christians. My understanding of the temptations are of human condition, such as fear, lust, desire etc. rather than resisting physical reality itself

[@victorygarden556]

@@whosrichpurnell3328 narrative is how we configure reality in our minds top to bottom to make sense of things and react accordingly, aka survival. Survival requires narrative. narrative requires perspective. Perspective requires separation so you can distinguish you from the object of your attention because objections of attention try to kill you so you must focus. Separation inherently causes sin because your perspective neglects the totality of fact. The only person who doesn’t do that if you ask Christians is Jesus which means from birth he always knew the totality of gods heart because perfect men must have gods heart, which is a circumvention of the requirement of knowing the the totality of the facts. He never sinned, and sacrificed himself for every sinners sake. Those two things prove his divinity and godliness. The miracles were extra proof to the Christians but really those two points are the reason why, instead of the symptoms like the ability to do miracles. Everyone except God being a sinner is true because no mortal man is perfect, so only the perfect person sent from god, who must be a part of god but not the totality, who if you ask Christians is Jesus, and can respect the totality because he is part of god. He has the totality of the perspective so he surrenders knowing he can sacrifice himself for sinners, because if he didn’t sacrifice himself the only fruit of that labor is sinners waging war against sinners for sinning when both sides have sinned. He can turn the other cheek as an homage to god and let Christians, the sinners, defend themselves because self defense is a sinner activity because it’s sinners killing sinners for sinning when they both justified the force leveraged against them. The most moral sinners only sin would be defense of his family against immoral attack because of defending the elderly, women, children or suicide martyrdom in the name of awareness in the defense of others if I’m correct.

[@mesa9724]

I don’t think he died for that. He could have lived in reclusion faithful to his way of life. He was killed because he angered the elites.

[@RMadaraPlay]

Its ironic because in Nietzsche's perspectives he gained power by conquering and overcoming this, living a life so pious and disciplined and chosing to die over compromising any of his own ideals, he was a sort of higher man, despite being kinda lowborn and his ideals beign slave, the way that he he did things shows the courage and beavery of the aristocrats of the past, and that's why he has so much significance to history, a great leader that aspired many people into his own beliefs looking down on the common romans and jews alike

[@insxmniac7052]

​@@RMadaraPlay Yep. He also does this with Socrates. Slave, but admirable. Almost like two sides constantly at war. Leaders of the weak and the strong, "villains" and "heroes" but without it's moral implications.

[@adamshawart]

You have a gift for explaining difficult ideas and some great insights

[@WeltgeistYT]

I appreciate that!

[@johnbrion4565]

When I read the Gospels they seem to be documenting actual historical events. Even the Gospel of John with its beautiful theology and symbolism has now been shown by modern archeology and historians to be historically accurate.

[@auburnqt6225]

I'm curious as to what evidence has been proven to be historically accurate? Any sources? Thanks.

[@johnbrion4565]

@@auburnqt6225 yes. Here is some archaeological evidence that confirms Gospel details: The nineteenth-century discovery of the Pool of Bethesda mentioned in John 5 The 1961 discovery in Caesarea of an inscription with Pontius Pilate’s name The 1961 discovery in Caesarea Maritima of a third-century mosaic that had the name “Nazareth” in it, the first known ancient nonbiblical reference Coins bearing the names of the Herodian dynasty: Herod the king, Herod the tetrarch of Galilee (who had John the Baptist murdered), Herod Agrippa I (who killed James Zebedee), and Herod Agrippa II (before whom Paul testified) The 1990 discovery of an ossuary that had the Aramaic words “Joseph son of Caiaphas” inscribed on it The ossuary discovered near Jerusalem in 1968 that contained the bones of a first-century man who had been crucified, details of which confirm the Gospel narratives of Jesus’ crucifixion This is a good book on the topic. John P. Meier, A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the History Jesus, vol. II Here is a good article on the reliability of the Gospels. Hope this helps. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-reliability-of-the-gospels

[@nodruj8681]

I love how when the xtians were worried it wasnt historical you all argue its non literal but now you feel evidence is their suddenly you've switched again. Sounds like you guys lack so called faith.

[@woozworldbabe312]

which historians 😂😂 where are your sources ??

[@johnbrion4565]

@@woozworldbabe312 there are more ancient New Testament texts than any other ancient texts in history. We have more copies of old texts closest to Jesus life than any other historical figure in that era or before.

[@jakovvodanovic9165]

Very interesting. Nietzsche never disappoints, just as your presentations never do.

[@WeltgeistYT]

Glad you like them!

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Nietzsche is a disgrace

[@Boxing_Reviews]

Jesus literally was sinless and died for our sins rose again and defeated death sin and the devil. Ultimate Hero of Eternity. who cares what some satanic deviI thinks? hes in Hell now same with Op and most of u soon.

[@brendanwiley253]

Of course He isn't simply a hero, He is God💪

[@endygonewild2899]

SIgma

[@oreocarlton3343]

Knight of faith is not a tragic hero and his heroism rises above the greek idea of self sacrifing hero as it can only be understood by himself and God, e.g. Abraham sacrificing Isaac. Kierkegaard wrote on it in Fear and trembling.

[@Anonymous-ez6cz]

only one God almighty the father Yahweh, Jesus the son of God, he's the hero, if we change if you know what I mean

[@thanosfickda]

far from god, a god have no human form, god is beyond everything, control everything, god is everywhere

[@Anonymous-ez6cz]

@@thanosfickda the Bible says there's many lords and many gods but to us one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ

[@rrrrrr1069]

Very interesting video. Some counterpoints (whether to the video creator, Nietz, or both): 1) asceticism coupled with an atheistic belief is perhaps the most absurd of all ways to live. Without a goal of transcending this world for something greater (as in- beyond this world), denying oneself the avenues of agency & pleasure of this world, is pointless & self-defeating. Essentially, one is then just dying to this world with nowhere to actually go. One might as well just actually die in that case or just live for today. At least christian/deistic/etc asceticism has the goal of attaining a better existence entirely, as an effect of such denial. 2) the last part of the video sends some sharp, pointed accusations against early Christians [such accusations are probably accurate for LATER Christians]. Yet, there is nothing given to back up these claims of the early Christians flipping the message of Christ for their own selfish gain of some sort. When in fact, evidence, both of secular & religious, shows the early Christians living out (albeit, as best imperfect humans can) & spreading the message of Christ.

[@WeltgeistYT]

True, there’s lots of speculation in the book.

[@johnprendergast4881]

Why would it be absurd to have self discipline and not believe in religion?? What a strange view. That would be like saying all religious believers are hedonistic... there is no good rationale behind it. Why would it be necessary to transcend this world to find value in existence? I'm not following where you coming from or going with this.

[@rrrrrr1069]

@@johnprendergast4881 no, I'm not saying self-discipline is absurd without a spiritual/religious aspect. I was only speaking to the specific self-discipline of asceticism, but even then i think i could see how that could have purpose without any view beyond this life. Although i guess its just harder for me, personally, to envisage that. Also, i'm not saying a person needs to transcend this world to find value in existence. I was just kind of hyper focusing on the whole idea behind asceticism & in regards to whatever point(s) i had in mind from the vid. But i wouldn't want that to be taken as an absolute; i don't like closing down exploring. Thanks for clarifying.

[@gregpappas]

This is really a brilliant presentation.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Brilliant and lacklustre are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@WeltgeistYT]

Thank you

[@JW-oe1lf]

It’s alright it seems like Nietzsche doesn’t get the gospels

[@oreocarlton3343]

"The tragic hero assures himself that the ethical obligation is totally present in him by transforming it into a wish. Agamemnon, for example, can say: To me the proof that I am not violating my fatherly duty is that my duty is my one and only wish. Consequently we have wish and duty face to face with each other. Happy is the life in which they coincide, in which my wish is my duty and the reverse, and for most men the task in life is simply to adhere to their duty and to transform it by their enthusiasm into their wish. The tragic hero gives up his wish in order to fulfill his duty. For the knight of faith, wish and duty are also identical, but he is required to give up both. If he wants to relinquish by giving up his wish, he finds no rest, for it is indeed his duty. If he wants to adhere to the duty and to his wish, he does not become the knight of faith, for the absolute duty specifically demanded that he should give it up. The tragic hero found a higher expression of duty but not an absolute duty." Kierkegaard "Fear and trembling"

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

As a Christian, I reject almost everything Nietzche says about Christianity, but it's interesting that even our greatest opponents have only positive things to say about Christ. Normally I respect Nietzche's thought processes even if his conclusions are a stretch. But on this topic he seems little different from the average Reddit or YT atheist. Everyone always wants to say the Apostles and Church Fathers changed the Bible to suit their desires. But the people saying that are only making the claim to suite their own desire to disparage Christ's legacy without disparaging Him. For this and similar reasons I don't believe in atheists. Everyone believes in God deep down, some just don't like his commandments.

[@Adsper2000]

Does the fact that nobody criticizes the Buddha mean that everyone is a secret Buddhist?

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@Adsper2000 Apples and oranges my friend. Few people criticize the Buddha because few people know anything about him. Even if they know a lot about Buddhism, they probably don’t know anything about the man other that he meditated under a tree until he discovered the secrets of the universe. I will criticize Buddha, he was either a liar or a fool. And when I say I don’t believe that the people I’m referring to are atheists, I also don’t believe they’re Christians. It is perfectly consistent to believe in God and still reject Him. John Milton wrote a whole book about it (not strictly Biblically accurate, but close enough for this point).

[@Adsper2000]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 What about a Chinese person, who knows a lot about the Buddha and grew up hearing about his story? If they can’t criticize him (since the guy led a sinless life and all), does that mean they must believe in his teachings?

[@nodruj8681]

Cool story bro

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@Adsper2000 Let's go with that premise. Do those people deny that the Buddha's teachings are real? People like Nietzsche deny Jesus taught what's in the Bible. They don't say "great man, but he's wrong". They say Peter and Paul lied about Jesus.

[@dp1381]

I used to love Nietzsche. He is certainly a brilliant intellect, and a potent diagnostician of his age. He correctly identified the effect of abandoning God (Nihilism) but he had no adequate solution to the problem. We simply cannot make up our own values. I followed Nietzsche’s philosophy for about ten years until it showed me the absolute necessity for a transcendent source of values. From there it was a short step into Christ’s arms.

[@wenonahenderson4901]

Amen well said

[@gg_plays7647]

i dont think nietzche is right either but i see him as being right on some perspective but also christianity as a whole being not the right mindset both of them are one dimensional and lack depth only loving and having love as a basis of your belief will rob the meaning of it in every meaning theres a conflict what gives meaning to christianity is not the inherent good its the duality heaven and hell , that is god not only the bad but the good and not only the good but the bad And also as nieztche's philosophy that is to suffering not everything is hell without heaven both of them are the same because without one of them the other would lack the meaning So my philosophy is being both to be your true self

[@alancantu2557]

In my opinion, that’s the whole point of Nietzsche’s philosophy. He wasn’t attempting to define a single, rigid replacement for the morality of Christianity, rather he highlighted the ways in which Christianity limited human potential in the modern era. The whole point is to take that realization and encourage new ways of conquering life. The true Nietzschean is not concerned with whether or not he is right, but whether or not he opens doors for “free spirits” so that humanity can continue developing.

[@gg_plays7647]

@@alancantu2557 if you saw nietzche he said that he favors the strong over the weak how isnt that something other than defined what he said first as his philosophy it is for people to not listen to it to begin with so it isnt a philosophy at all just a suggestion

[@Elodin1234]

So, you embraced nihilism...

[@goldenbough56]

So what I'm getting from Nietzsche is the diadem's word. Alexander, Caesar, Achilles, Hitler, Napoleon, Horatio Nelson, Mussolini, Francisco Franco, etc., all these are the heroes Nietzsche couldn't have been. It seems to me that he is a sort of intellectual hero, enshrined in memory but not physically, even though he is so insistent on temporal success. Not everyone can achieve this temporal success; most people have intellectual and emotional deficiencies and are thus what Nietzsche would view as slaves, those who obey the master's word. We know it's easier to make more money by robbing a bank, it's easier to watch porn than have a relationship with a woman; it's always more profitable to be unjust, that is, to violate the logos, than it is to give men what is their due. Every system that has a logical (logos) fallacy inherently cannot be a functioning system; inherently its actions must be meaningless. The words weird, crazy, stupid, vapid, senseless, wild, dumb, illogical, meaningless are all synonyms. They denote something is at its core illogical. The universe is not illogical; everything happens for a reason. If the universe were illogical, it would cease to exist. Because illogicality is meaningless. If the art of medicine were illogical, it would also cease to exist. But the art of medicine is perfect. We don't invent medicine; we learn about how this perfect system works, even though our application of it may be illogical. Injustice is inherently illogical; it is not a working system and therefore cannot exist to do any good to any property or creature. The sword, word, intellect, reason. These things are also synonyms. To say "Don't talk philosophy to men with swords" would be almost like saying "Don't speak reasonably to senseless men that pretend to present reason with their evil". Nietzsche's philosophy only works for a few: the strong, the animal, the selfish. It only works for the wicked who pretend to have any meaning. Most people are slaves and do not possess any of these things. I can understand if the idea is to surpass religious dogma to attempt to reach the objective truth or the absolute truth. But to offend the logos itself? The dog toils in vain to break from his destiny, and by its own choice to separate toils and is dragged in vain. It reminds me of the prodigal son, leaving his home, becoming wicked, and returning to his father. Nietzsche's words seem to be an ode from a triumphant late 18th-century Germany, a herald of the coming Hitler, like how Lucifer heralds Sol. If Nietzsche's philosophy were a religion, it would be LaVeyan Satanism. I live in a good house, I went to a good school, I grew up with good parents. But I dropped out of high school. As I look through all this, Jesus appears to be the savior of humanity. Nietzsche looks for the external, for glory, triumph, mastery. Jesus teaches that defilement and success come from within. We look for success, but also, it's a trope of our industrial society to want to live alone in the woods. Jesus, the logos, the word, justice, humility, humbleness. I fail to see anyone properly critique Jesus; I can only see conclusions drawn from skepticism, misinterpretation, and stubbornness. The last of the three usually necessitates the first two. If I've misinterpreted something, or if you have something else to say, please tell me whoever is willing.

[@paulbohman4134]

Very interesting comment. I see you made it a while ago. I can tell you, confidently, that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. All things were made by, though and for Him according to Colossians 1:15-17. His mercy is the ONLY way by which we people can live. Because we are weak, and guilty of sin outside of Him. John 3:16-21 We can try to make up our own way... But as you seemingly propose, it is folly... Utter folly. I recommend you to look up the two scripture references that I wrote in this reply. May God be gracious and merciful to you as He has been too me. And may you respond to it.

[@pepethunder]

Nietzsche seems to forget that every claim Jesus made in the gospels was based on cultural knowledge of the time. If he wants to analyze the true psychology of Jesus, he cant remove him from his culture. The claims he made are congruent with the messiah prophezised in the old testament, and which he attributed to himself, so in essence, nietzsche even got the most basic part of his message wrong because he omited the very core of it. Let us not forget the majority if the new testament is written by people who met Jesus. Even one of his brothers is written in there. I never understand this argument that the gospels were written a hundred years after his death because it completely fails to mention the letters of Paul give credence to the gospels as written, and he hot the ok from Peter himself. “Oh but how do you know Peter didnt get the real messege?”. Its all just so lazy seriously. The least bit of preasure breaks this bridge.

[@BrunofanofK]

Reminder that even Nietzsche flip ploped around this topic, due to the helenization of the western sphere Jesus fits neatly in the same catogory as Dionisus Achetype, the gone and returning heir of the Father. Nietzsche even called himself the crucified one and dyonisus intermitently.

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Nietzsche never suffer like Christ did

[@kiljaeden5405]

I used to read Antichrist before, Nietzsche said Judas wasn't the traitor, but it's the other apostle that was the traitor since he changed the wisdom of Jesus

[@Lknzvc]

Jews are

[@PeterM8987]

A powerful statement with no corroborating evidence. Is this an example of how radical perspectivism works?

[@poTato_777]

​@@PeterM8987he is right tho ;ddd Judas hasn't changed teachings of the Christ, to appeal to the pagans

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Judas is a traitor

[@iloveyoushima]

Which apostle changed it?

[@MsForeverFluffy]

This is such a hot take and I love it very much!

[@stewartthomas4193]

Leonardo da Vinci said " The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions " Plato shared with us wisdom he learnt from Egypt, wisdom that was a death sentence in Greece, Rome ( Christianity ) ..Pythagoras, Socrates and later Hypatia of Alexandria. Plato in his dialogue " The Republic " tells the allegory of " The Cave " Plato starts by telling us of prisoners being held in a sort of underground den, let us examine this den via the geometry of Bernhard Riemann and Felix Klein..Klein bottle..3rd and 4th dimensions. Plato tells us that the prisoners are bound up unable to move their heads, let us examine this bondage via the psychology of Erich Fromm.. socialisation of consciousness.. aware-unaware. Plato tells us that the prisoners mistake shadows for substance, let us examine this mistake via the philosophy of Thales and Kant..synthetic a priori..not thing in itself. Plato tells us that one of the prisoners is released, let us examine this release via the instructions given by T.Lobsang Rampa..stilling the mind and conscious astral travel..leaving the cave/body. Plato tells us that the prisoners will reject this release, let us examine this rejection via the psychological effects of Stockholm syndrome..Plato quotes Homer " Better to be a poor man, and have a poor master, and endure anything, than to think and live after their manner " Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. Mathew 23 13 31.

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

The allegory of " The Cave " What about The allegory Ship_of_Theseus a thing that is changed to much is no longer the thing same as is trans humanism The prison aka (Tartarus) a cave temple prison Aladdin is like it to in some ways A'LAD'IN A lad in a cave his task is very similar to Theseus to go into hell just like chirst or unmuseum maze Ship_of_Theseus Caerleon wales King Arthur or King Theseus ??. Augustus mausoleum Constantine's Sword www.britannica.com/event/Pax-Romana

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

The allegory of " The Cave " What about The allegory Ship_of_Theseus a thing that is changed to much is no longer the thing same as is trans humanism The prison aka (Tartarus) a cave temple prison Aladdin is like it to in some ways A'LAD'IN A lad in a cave his task is very similar to Theseus to go into hell just like chirst or unmuseum maze Ship_of_Theseus Caerleon wales King Arthur or King Theseus ??. Augustus mausoleum Constantine's Sword

[@brendananderson9102]

How can you leave the body and hope to be closer to God when the Kingdom of God is within you? The opposite idea is what evildoers have people believe so that they may confuse them and have their spirits leave their vessel so that something else may enter in. Spiritual nourishment is all you need and communing with the inner spirit, which the silver cord (i.e. umbilical cord for the spirit) is attached to, like the umbilical cord is the cord to worldly life. Btw other new age groups (not sure if I can mention them without getting this comment removed) teach people that their spirit is tied to an outer spirit like a baby to the placenta. But they have it wrong (on purpose), that outer spirit doesn't exist, it's just the inner spirit being pushed out of the vessel.

[@brendananderson9102]

How can you leave the body and hope to be closer to God when the Kingdom of God is within you? The opposite idea is what evildoers have people believe so that they may confuse them and have their spirits leave their vessel so that something else may enter in. Spiritual nourishment is all you need and communing with the inner spirit, which the silver cord (i.e. umbilical cord for the spirit) is attached to, like the umbilical cord is the cord to worldly life. Btw other new age groups (not sure if I can mention them without getting this comment removed) teach people that their spirit is tied to an outer spirit like a baby to the placenta. But they have it wrong (on purpose), that outer spirit doesn't exist, it's just the inner spirit being pushed out of the vessel.

[@brendananderson9102]

How can you leave the body and hope to be closer to God when the Kingdom of God is within you? The opposite idea is what evildoers have people believe so that they may confuse them and have their spirits leave their vessel so that something else may enter in. Spiritual nourishment is all you need and communing with the inner spirit, which the silver cord (i.e. umbilical cord for the spirit) is attached to, like the umbilical cord is the cord to worldly life. Btw other new age groups (not sure if I can mention them without getting this comment removed) teach people that their spirit is tied to an outer spirit like a baby to the placenta. But they have it wrong (on purpose), that outer spirit doesn't exist, it's just the inner spirit being pushed out of the vessel.

[@floridaman318]

Reading this comment section is a good example of exactly why humanity needs a Savior.

[@johndelong5574]

Despite having a brain ravaged by syphlis, Fred had a keen insight.

[@Lknzvc]

Bloodborne reference

[@valerietaylor9615]

It’s Fritz. Fritz is short for Friedrich.

[@Muusoc999]

The words "The Kingdom of God is within you." Can be subject to different Interpretations, especially when putting it in context with other verses. It doesn't inherently mean something solely inward.

[@loosegoose2466]

I thought I would hate this, but it was really interesting and thoughtful. Thank you so much. Bless you.

[@WeltgeistYT]

Thanks!

[@nabster9253]

can you make a video about nietzsche and his relation to the modern left through foucoult and derrida, i think it would be interesting but i couldnt find any info. love your work

[@theGuilherme36]

Yeah, it would be amazing to know more how Nietzsche would be against the people who, supposedly, follow him

[@JoBlakeLisbon]

Postmodernists and Marxists entire belief system is the epitome of resentment. Foucault's own life was the essence of decadence, lacking strength, vigour, honour and dying, as he did, of HIV contracted in a bath-house.

[@markoslavicek]

​@@ReverendDr.Thomas I think you've stumbled upon a channel which isn't for you, but welcome nevertheless. Hope you'll learn something new

[@ruthless7879]

@@markoslavicek why wouldn’t it be for him?

[@ruthless7879]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas damn did you write that all by yourself? You should write books the way you write is really good

[@116stuart]

It's quite convenient for Nietzsche to just deny the historicity of the Bible in order to start tearing down Jesus. Whilst I can confidently say that Nietzsche was a man of great intellect far more than me, I wholeheartedly disagree with this watered down version of Jesus who seems to be delusional and in denial of just how wicked man is, when simply whole point of Jesus dying on the cross was a because man is utterly wicked & unable to be fully Holy/Good, we might be mostly good but even in our good deeds we tend to have evil intentions & thus Jesus took upon Himself the sin & judgement that was rightfully ours & we then are credited with a righteousness that was rightfully His. This however is not much of a big deal if we were to reduce Jesus to a mere good leader who said nice things & was wrongfully charged for some crimes, He was God & perfect in all His ways and in no way was He ambushed by willfully gave up His life to suffer at the hands of His own creations, it's really an insult to compare Him with Napoleon or any human for that matter.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

18:16 WOW, top 10 greatest endings of all time, it truly embodied the "love thy enemy." In fact, all the core messages of their philosophy too and at the end he (bible one) was rewarded with ressurection and eternal bliss in heaven (well, he was the son of god so i guess he would go there anyway). But more than he "died for us" it feels like "he died for himself as needed step to reach heaven and it's an example of what everyone should be able to endure to reach the same". At least that's what i conclude from what i got from the video and from what i know.

[@thesnatcher3616]

Died "for us" "for the benefit of", "in place of", "as a representative of", "because of". Many interpretations exist. But I say that perhaps all are true.

[@gregpappas]

You have given us so much with your clear and focused presentation. I have not rejected Neitzche following Bretrand Russel, byt sm much richer for listening to your work. Thanks.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@WeltgeistYT]

Glad to hear that. Russell is very unfair to him

[@helvete_ingres4717]

Russell's understanding of all continental philosophy (esp. German) is pitiful

[@messybutmeaningful]

Byt sm? Dowa ha ha

[@katierees1982]

Crazy, I literally fell down a wikipedia rabbit hole of the pursuit of the historical Jesus! Love the topic.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@Anon1gh3]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Weston Price

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@Anon1gh3, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@CarlosDaniel_96]

​@@ReverendDr.Thomasno im a canibal

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@CarlosDaniel_96, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@SupermonkeyPlaysMC]

I love taking the heroes journey view when thinking about biblical concepts, for me personally, it really helped with the initial separation of what I was initially thought as a Baptist. I’m far beyond at this point, but I love to think about the specifics related to how we put our own human mystical spent on specific aspects of the Bible, thinking about everything that took place around the silk roads era it just fascinates me because I know I’ll never know for sure, and that’s what keeps me going. Pre watch thoughts if anything 0:06

[@TrulyBS-QJ]

Whats the super monkey doing here?

[@ASTR0TALKSPHILOSOPHY]

Wrong video. Continue on your bloons tower defense monkey game.

[@gregoryodle5947]

1. The Bible is a good story. 2. Jesus was possibly a real person, but we can’t be sure. 3. Christians claim to know things that cannot be verified, so this knowledge is spurious.

[@mattsuran1270]

Lately I've heard that God favors certain sports teams and countries.

[@wood2640]

Nietzche was crazy. Literally. Dont take his word serious

[@austincollard7589]

Nietzche says not to trust the gospel then quotes a line from the gospel to state Jesus is a man in psychology form 🥴 And the story of napoleon, where the heroism of the character remains known but the stories differ. If you look at Jesus's stories, they are no different. Every religion or story of Jesus refers to Him as God, Prophet, or some supernatural being. Implying high high importance. Kinda like napoleon being regarded as a superior man in essence. We talk about the characters of heroism and that you have to fight and conquor and do all these things, many of which are terrible calamities, to be considered a hero. Yet Nietzche uses the line that the devil is the prince of this world, who controls it. So heroism in essence is in the devils control/discrepancy. Heroism is not as great as one claims, atleast, in the way we coined the term heroism. Hence why Jesus didn't act out to be the hero in the human eyes.. That is because he had something greater. What a real hero is. If you look at Jesus Psychologically. His actions speak volume, because he in his Intellect sees his actions as being greater than the one which we consider heroism. Because in his actions, if everyone followed suit. We would not be dealing with all these calamities and man made problems/errors and inner hatred towards others. Lastly, if Jesus was this teacher who spoke of love and dignity and turn the cheek. There ain't no way in hell he ends up on the cross 😂 Nietzche nice try my boy

[@WeltgeistYT]

Good comment

[@mozartwolfgang4656]

Nobody care with your god you naive child.

[@Itsuser_1234]

Clown 🤡

[@SupermonkeyPlaysMC]

1:55 It almost feels like an archetypal role almost thrust upon historical Jesus, or in other words a fusion of ideals??? I am not one to know, but the longer I review,revisits, and rewrite/expand my personal understanding of the Bible’s contents; the more I find myself wondering if or rather how what or why may Jesus, be the symbol he is today? I genuinely wonder what the pubic unconscious was about in that day, I almost crave the sentiments and mentality just to “feel” how ancient it is compared to me as I am now.

[@Endymion766]

So Jesus was very much like Buddha or a Buddha figure, but Western instead of Eastern. I have suspected that for a very long time and was not aware Nietzsche also held a similar belief though he made no mention of Buddha anywhere in Der Antichrist or anywhere else that I know of. I'm also disappointed though. I really want Jesus to be divine and evidence of a peaceful afterlife and immortality. I understand "the kingdom of heaven is within" and have touched it before, but I disdain endings. I wish to persist as a healthy young version of myself for all time, to wander and explore an infinite whimsical landscape called "heaven" and never die. Being told that heaven is a state of mind, is like being promised cake and then being handed a picture of cake. I can't help but feel disappointed. I think the whole Western world is disappointed, slowly discovering their messiah was more or less a self-help guru, except he actually believed in what he said unlike the other 99% of self-help gurus.

[@dragonfishing]

You listened to a j ew now you pay the price with jilted delusions.

[@Endymion766]

@@dragonfishing there's always someone with a "because jew" response. Go away.

[@Endymion766]

@@GLASSB182 reincarnation without remembrance is just another permanent death. I am my memories and experiences. If I can't take those with me then I no longer exist. Having my energy come back in some form is like saying because I charged a new battery with an old battery then that new battery somehow is the old battery. We know that's silly.

[@username2872]

​@@Endymion766 I think I'll agree with that. In that sense, reincarnation makes no sense, even if you were to have your memory intact, doesn't it make it seem more nihilistic? Everyone just spawn back, no one really dies. The value of life will wither in our place

[@Endymion766]

@@username2872 immortality should come with the right to stop living if it is so desired because being forced to live is almost as bad as being forced to die. But I want to choose when I go. I want to live for 10,000 years then maybe I might choose to die.

[@Eat_Win]

Very interesting, Nietzsche made a lot of assumptions and is very skeptical of the mythical/spiritual side of Jesus. Although I as a Christian do not agree with him, I understand his decision to reject chrisianity to admire Jesus himself as a person. He had a very unique and insightful look at things, which you painted very clear in this video

[@francinocasieri5073]

I feel like nietzsche is just a edge lord

[@mozartwolfgang4656]

Youre a nothing.

[@WatersAbove77]

“A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg-or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” - C.S. Lewis

[@moorbilt]

To be a person who truly turns the cheek is another kind of crazy.

[@valerietaylor9615]

I’ve always thought so.

[@spenny8233]

U don’t understand it’s not even about Christianity but until u give up one the material It won’t happen

[@moorbilt]

whats happening?@@spenny8233

[@geranimotesla7058]

What a total misrepresentation of Jesus about His historicity. First of all the bible was not written 30 years after the death of Jesus. St. Paul says in his epistles that first hand witnesses are still living (1 Corinthians 15:3-7). Secondly, this video completely dismisses secular/external accounts of Josephus and Tacitus (both living during the time of Jesus' crucifixion, who had no allegiance with Christ). @13:56 "The kingdom of God is within you..." is taken completely out of context. The patriotism of this country should be within everyone, but how many are truely patriotic...similarly the kingdom of God is within us, but how many of us behave in a godly manner?

[@SupermonkeyPlaysMC]

0:51 This specifically Harkins to that idea related to humanity, but also a personal idea that I’ve been endorsing. It’s almost like applying general relatively back to psychological principles related to Nietzsche x Jung, but if I have to be honest, encompasses, a lot of the prolific teachings but I’m realizing this almost after the fact. Kind of directly creating a feeling of synchronicity between the two. But every person has their own individual perception based upon specific assumptions and personal knowledge on the self in my early flawed observations. The apparent Reality in which we find so comfortable, when looked at with enough scrutiny, almost comes out, looking unrecognizable to the world in which we assumed to be truth previously. Sort of like the cycle of the hero, although I’m hesitant to tie it to that yet . It’s almost encouraging on a weird level to understand and pick up where, to me at least, a complete stranger work, their entire life to get to. And only through the power given to us as a society in the last 25 or so years have I been able to make something like this happen due to the mass availability of specific information . I appreciate the card that you put out it means a lot

[@BraniacPho]

It is a very interesting point of view. Sounds like it from a theorist who respects Jesus both as man, and savior, without insulting the fact that he was human. %100 man, and %100 God.

[@TrulyBS-QJ]

0:45 Considering christianity was used for ancient antisemitism, thas a pretty good quote.

[@marketgardener8957]

Based Christianity

[@stevenross6088]

It’s easy to see how Christianity developed from slavery and then the ruling class added the theology of control with sin, heaven hell and salvation. This has damaged the psyche of millions of people though guilt and condemnation with these teachings.

[@phuakiangee8626]

Jesus is not a hero, He is God the Creator of heaven and earth. He promised to come quickly in Rev 22:7. Come Lord Jesus come.

[@Greggers1516]

Theres no way you deny the historicity of the Gospels. you've lost all credibility. no scholar who's taken seriously denies the historicity of the gospels. 5:16 wdym who cares about miracles? if he's just another human and that's it, there is no merit to learning about Him. if he didn't perform miracles and claim to be God, why do i care about Him so much? If hes just a man like Socrates then who cares? part of why what he says matters, is because he is the ultimate authority. He is God.

[@mrniceusername]

Can u make a video about Nietzsche's contribution to psychology or Nietzsche as a psychologist?

[@WeltgeistYT]

Yes, good suggestion

[@assim2213]

​@@WeltgeistYT Eu sei quem é Jesus Cristo e o mundo inteiro sabe também quem é a Nietzsche quem é mesmo?????????????

[@assim2213]

​@@WeltgeistYT Qual é o feito de Nietzsche mesmo pra uma pessoa que seja? Qual é seu legado? Mudou vida de quem? Ele é o que pra quem? O que ele disse, pensa fez importa ou modifica a vida de quem? Já Jesus Cristo............

[@chesneytube1]

I never got the 'only son of god' bit. If he's god's only child then whose children are the rest of us supposed to be? I heard once that it was a mistranslation and he actually said 'A son of god'. That reminds me of Life of Bryan. Jesus says "I'm a child of god" and someone turns around to the crowd and yells "He says he's the only son of God!"

[@endygonewild2899]

Completely false, Jesus saw himself as THE Son of God. He claimed to be the divine son of man.

[@chesneytube1]

@@endygonewild2899 yeah well that’s obviously not true is it. We’re all the children of god. If he’s the only son of god whose children are the rest of us? Jesus spoke a lot of sense so it doesn’t add up to me that he’s say something so radically wrong. What makes a lot more sense is that the church construed it so that Jesus is the ONLY son of god so that they have a monopoly on spiritual salvation. When you look into the older translations from Hebrew they say radically different things to what people today believe they do. Christianity as a modern religion has been fashioned to the convenience of power, not the other way around.

[@endygonewild2899]

@@chesneytube1 your ideas about Christianity are completely false. First off, the New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew, second, the actual original Christianity saw Jesus as God incarnate, and it was actually deviations from that that agree with you.

[@chesneytube1]

@@endygonewild2899 I know some of the original versions are Greek but remember the bible is many books compiled into one, not a single book. Some of the original translations are in Hebrew such as the book of revelations.

[@vladslav7344]

I find it amazing that so many torture themselves through these books yet completely neglect reading the bible and making a first-hand judgement. I thought I knew so much about it until I picked it up and read it myself. If you believe in God or not it is still probably the most important book of all time

[@alspezial2747]

The ancestory trees are extremely tiresome to read, tho And some of it is stupidly violent or just plain stupid (isaacs blessing to esau, for example)

[@DyarContreras]

The only reason why it’s considered the most important book of all time, is because Christianity has been the world’s single most successful religion. The fact that there is the one dangling carrot of god’s eternal love and offer of salvation; but if you reject that offer, then you are damned to eternal torture, is the real reason behind its overwhelming success. The Bible has been the world’s single most successful misinformation campaign, and act of psychological warfare that human beings have ever committed upon themselves. The Qur’an comes in second place.

[@alspezial2747]

@@DyarContreras give islam 600 more years, and the quran will be spot 1

[@DyarContreras]

@@alspezial2747 that’s pretty pessimistic, lol 😂 Muslims will have their own colony on Mars at that point in time. It’ll be called: New Gaza. I don’t know if Christianity and Judaism will still be around 6 centuries from now, though…it’s hard to predict the future. Humanity might destroy itself within the next few years, for all we know.

[@alspezial2747]

@DyarContreras you're right, it's impossible to predict. But the quran is just so unintentionally stupid that it certainly will overtake the bible if we survive long enough.

[@abyzzwalker]

This reminds me of The Great inquisitor from Brothers Karamazov. Where the inquisitor makes an argument against the church but in favor of Jesus.

[@JosephusAurelius]

Somewhere in the Bible it says: “you shall know them by their fruits”. And the fruits of Christ and his followers are plentiful and with Nitzche… well not so good

[@peixeserra9116]

If we're going by that logic, you just made life even worse for yourself. As the followers of Christ had caused myriad amounts of pain, destruction, hypocrisy and regression to the world that makes their Good deeds pale in comparison. And still frequently cause it, to the point it's worth celebrating when one does a good thing. Same can be said of the followers of the 2 Abrahamic religions. The amount of damage (and also good) caused by Nieztchian philosophy is but a speck of sand next to it. That's a very dumb argument.

[@Revivalism23]

​@@peixeserra9116 Christians transformed the world for better.

[@IbnElKhattab]

bro your argument is soo dumb 😂

[@JosephusAurelius]

@@IbnElKhattab Please enlighten me how moral relativism is better than objective moralism? Or in other words, please explain why this philosophy that enables evil like rape and murder are better than the teachings of Christ?

[@IbnElKhattab]

@@JosephusAurelius brother you have objective relativism in the bible like forcing a raped woman to marry her rapist, then you go tell me this is the old testament well that is moral relativism like you are trying to tell me that god prohibited rape then saw soo bad that he condemns it

[@PeterM8987]

Not one psychologist nor pyschiatrist would claim examining the psychological state of a person whom they haven't met, including dead ones, is legitimate. Why does Nietzsche get a free pass?

[@poTato_777]

Nietzsche is not a psychologist or a psychiatrist

[@czechmeoutbabe1997]

I would argue that Nietzsche is using the term very loosely, given that Psychology had been incredibly recently invented in his age. What he’s interested in is Jesus’ mindset, not history, miraculous powers or ontological relationship with God, which make it a somewhat psychological exploration.

[@SmugAmerican]

That's actually not true. There have been plenty of studies to contemplate for example whether famous dead people were autistic, had personality disorders, or other mental ailments, just based on what we know about them. Surely you've read the phrase " Psychologists from the University of whatever believe whoever was likely thus, because of their etc. Etc"

[@FiXCrypto]

Jesus is KING!! Every knee will bow and every tounge will confess

[@alspezial2747]

​@sircole4549 Japanese Muslims Karate/Judo practitioners Some women during bjs There are probably more, but those are the ones i know of

[@proto566]

I Hope Not. What a dull world.

[@Agesilaus.88]

Calm down Jew.

[@Sungod77777]

🤡

[@mustanaamiotto3812]

How will you make me bow? What will you do, fogive me until i submit? What rut!

[@tetelestai5736]

Not what he said on his deathbed He is now dust and forgotten, The LORD Jesus Christ is still saving people from damnation

[@gptgod]

"And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments." -Luke 23:24 I always pray for this dark corner of KZbin, you people who search for eloquent psychological or philosophical explanations for the solemnity and meaninglessness within you. Christ is the narrow path and few find it. Please dont die blind guys. Instead of strawmanning Christianity, search the depths of its truths earnestly for once.

[@tshepangmohale173]

And how do i search please? I prayed, i read, i tried to make it make sense but it all sounds like a gullable tale with loose ends and contradictions. So what is it that you Christians know or experience that we dont? How do you even know it's God and are we wrong that we dont have enough information to make an informed correct choice lone this side of youtube?

[@admincxs1670]

@@tshepangmohale173 people just want to believe they have to ultimate truth. I think it’s a way of feeling superior.

[@DeadEndFrog]

One persons will to power, changed by others to fit their own will to power? Isn't that Nietzschian too? Nietzsche can never seem to agree withhimself. He wants ideals and power to be one. Or does he simply care about those who 'create' their own will to power, rather then using others, and their will to fit themselves? That too can be seen as idealistic. Categorize people into weak and strong, and you won't understand what to call the weak when they win. Physical power is not power itself. And we see this play out today when people talk about 'survival of the strongest' rather then the 'fittest'. Reality is diffrent from ideals im afraid.

[@Stefanio64]

Great point! The nazis would fit into the first category of people changing his Will to power in order to fit into their own world view (Will to power). A Will to power In unity. Whilst Nietzsche had almost no disciples or followers during his own lifetime. Was he a failure according to his own philosophy?

[@DeadEndFrog]

@@Stefanio64 In regards to failure. It feels like i say this in every video about nietzsche, but i would love to hear what the early nietzsche would think about later nietzsche.

[@Stefanio64]

By fittest we could add most cunning :)

[@DeadEndFrog]

@@Stefanio64 indeed, i would even say that its often up to chance aswell, where chance is simply anything one doesn't control, or couldn't have guessed would happen.

[@brianw.5230]

Jesus did not say all would be saved. He said to "Enter through the narrow gate" to Heaven.

[@VSM101]

nonsence

[@angelvollant864]

The way Nietzsche describes Jesus towards the end of the video makes me think of "amor fati". "Love of fate".

[@rexboaden1441]

A very clear, articulate and helpful video, many thanks! I find myself resonating positively with most of the points in this explanation of Nietzsche’s later thought, coming to similar conclusions during the years following my expulsion from a narrow, intolerant, fundamentalist church. 😊 Keep up the great work !

[@idonthaveaname42]

tell me your expulsion story

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Catholic is best Church Salve Regina

[@Timihaastrup]

Do not find religion, find Christ. Many views of Christianity (the belief) have been destroyed by individuals and churches (organisation). They pump out these pharisaical teachings to assert some kind of superiority and take advantage of the spiritually timid and innocent, especially in America. I had never even heard of paid church memberships until I looked at America. I’m writing this comment really to encourage following Christ himself. There are all kinds of false teachers.

[@dero5466]

By that definition of a hero beinf someone who stands above men physically rhen yes, jesus was not a hero. But in the sense of resisting the world and overcoming the flesh jesus was a man of resilience, and courage.

[@Nemon9a]

Only if you believe he actually did that

[@dero5466]

@DrFauciTheNewJesus wether he did it or not to me seems irrelevant, because in a hierarchy of righteousness, selflessness, and love, the story of Jesus is above all

[@maxavail]

Matthew 22:29 "“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." Nietzsche was a prisoner of this world. He thought heroism was to conquer the other, as Napoleon did, not conquer oneself, as Jesus did. In fact Jesus is the ultimate hero, the God who sheds His own divinity, taking the appearance of a suffering servant and in this act of serving all, becomes exalted above all. Jesus never gave up on His expectations to be worshipped, He just gave us a very, very good reason to do so in love.

[@xavierowen7144]

The negative aspect of religions is their inability to openly admit the allegorical nature of their beliefs, leading them to mask it.

[@shubhamkumar-nw1ui]

What does Nietzsche think of socrates ..was drinking the glass of poison heroic or anti heroic ?

[@Gantaipao]

Explain.

[@Xthfollow]

Nietzsche invented his own Jesus 🙃😂

[@tcrijwanachoudhury]

Everyone does

[@Xthfollow]

@@tcrijwanachoudhury hi everyone

[@Revivalism23]

​@@tcrijwanachoudhury Jesus is universal ♾️

[@leaderofthebunch-deadbeat7716]

I do find the comments that if all we had on the history of Napoleon was the testaments of four people who knew him writing decades after the fact then what they wrote would be full of exaggerations and highly mythological, so therefore they should not be taken at face, value to be quite ironic. Jean-Baptiste Pérès wrote a satirical paper in 1827 making the argument that Napoleon was not a historical figure and that his story was heavily Mythologized to fit the archetype of a solar deity, particularly Apollo. Pérès presents an overly rationalistic interpretation of the analogies and etymologies of elements in the popular understanding of Napoleon's life in order to show how, just as the Scriptures or other religious texts could be argued to be mythical, so could Napoleon's life. For example, the family name Bona parte ("good part") could be seen as coming from a dualistic view of the good or light as one extreme, with mala parte ("bad part") being the opposite, darkness or hell. There's also the fact that he was militarily successful in the South but failed in the North, like how the sun is less bright in the North than the South. The location of Napoleon's birthplace, Corsica, in relation to France, corresponds to that of Delos, which is the mythical place of Apollo's birth, in relation to Greece. Napoleon's mother's name was Letizia. The mother of Apollo was named Leto. Moreover, the name Letizia comes from the Latin word for joy, "and does not the dawn's light spread joy in nature when it opens the portals of the East to the sun?" (Sonnenfeld p 33). The three sisters of Napoleon could be seen as corresponding to the Three Graces of the court of Apollo. Napoleon's four brothers could be understood as the four seasons. Just as three of the seasons are kings (spring rules the flowers, summer the harvest, and autumn the fruit) dependent on the power of the sun, three of Napoleon's brothers reigned only thanks to his power. There's a lot more but I think you get the point. The truth is reality is often stranger than fiction. So no, I don't find Nietzsche's argument that the Four Evangelists added elements and mythologized the story to better convince people that he fulfilled all of the prophecies of the Old Testament and was truly the prophesized messiah sent to redeem the world to be all that convincing. I think I'll stick to Thomas Aquinas

[@lazarnikolic4958]

Great work!

[@WeltgeistYT]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@alexxx4434]

One can argue that Jesus was in a conflict, a battle for human soul. He just fought by different means. And N. is just shortsighted.

[@Mr.Phoreskin]

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

[@eliasbonafe9236]

And? What about it?

[@ilonabaier6042]

I wish you would give the page number or at least in which section/capital the quotes are.

[@WeltgeistYT]

If it’s not mentioned then it’s the same section as the previous quote

[@brianw.5230]

I'm an ex-atheist. I think Nietszche went insane from demonic attack.

[@Dark_Eurphoria]

Lmao

[@estrelaazul460]

Personally, I think he is one of the prophets of the antichrist, especially when he talks about nihilism.

[@martymcflywilliams5369]

Did Nietzsche read Isaiah 53?

[@MsForeverFluffy]

Well, he did study theology so I m guessing the answear is yes

[@alwaysgreatusa223]

As beauty exists in the eye of the beholder, so heroism exists in the heart of the hero-worshiper. Suffice to say, if enough people consider you to be a hero, then you certainly are a hero to those people. I think Jesus qualifies as a hero to those who declare themselves to be Christian.

[@carlosmunoz3089]

but what if Jesus was all about showing us how the Greek hero concept was always an ego trip that caused more harm than good. Jesus was something different than a hero. Heroes were half human half greek god aka demigods. When humans act like heroes we are worshipping that pagan religion. Jesus was a new type of leading man. Not a hero but more of an anti hero. In a world of wannabe heroes a Christian is called to be an anti hero. Which then makes makes the superhero the same as the antichrist.

[@alwaysgreatusa223]

@@carlosmunoz3089 In Greek mythology, a hero was usually a warrior like Achilles or a strongman like Hercules -- and, yes, they were demigods. A hero today is usually somebody who fights to protect the weak or innocent, or who risks danger to themselves in order to save or protect, or provide for others in some way. In general, self-sacrifice for the good of others is considered heroic -- at least, in terms of what Nietzsche would call the 'slave morality' -- by which he meant Christianity. So, what is an anti-hero ?

[@alwaysgreatusa223]

@@carlosmunoz3089 If you are saying that an anti-hero is someone who acts heroically, yet lacks the ego of Greek mythological hero, then, yeah, ok. But this kind of non-egotistical person would still be considered a hero in the modern usage of the word. And I still think many Chritians view Jesus as heroic, or at least an example of heroism, whether they call him a hero or not.

[@carlosmunoz3089]

@alwaysgreatusa223 so yeah, people have misconceptions about words they currently use incorrectly. what I'm saying is that the whole concept of acting heroically is anti Christian. the hero is the romantic ideal. and Jesus was not romantic. Jesus was oriental as in about the truth. romance is about manipulation and seduction. heroism plays to our emotional senses. feelings are sensual. thats the love for baal in old testament or the love for Thor in mythology or Superman in comics. Jesus is the truth. Jesus is truth. so his story doesn't have any of the traditional hero arcs. they are antiheroes. losers liars killers thieves and sister wife having sex maniacs. yet god uses them to effect great change. don't buy the media hype that turned bible characters into Greek heroes. the bible is not the entertainment. it's the exit out.

[@alwaysgreatusa223]

@@carlosmunoz3089 The meanings of words tend to evolve over time. Our natural language -- in contrast with computer code -- is dynamic (and not static) in this sense. It is true that old words take-on new meanings (sometimes losing their old meaning along the way) due to ignorance and sloppy word usage. Nonetheless, when the new meaning becomes common usage, then that becomes the meaning of the word -- or, at least one of its meaning. In this sense, language is democratic, as you will notice that dictionaries have revised editions which are published precisely to keep-up with the changing meanings of old words (as well as to accommodate new words). Therefore, to insist that an old word must always mean what it originally meant is archaic and pedantic.

[@blackstonewielder19]

What justification is there for the equation of the 'prince of this world' in the Gospel of John with Satan? For that matter, why insist that the 'world' that he spoke of was the material world? It could instead refer to a state of perception.

[@nowhereman6019]

This video actually really sells Jesus for me.

[@ImMichaelMullins]

Then you didn't have true faith to begin with my brother.

[@nowhereman6019]

@@ImMichaelMullins yeah, I'm not a Christian. I meant it sold me Jesus as a person and philosopher.

[@littlesometin]

19:15 name of the painting please?

[@Itsuser_1234]

It’s called es over? Like who hell was this? You can tell from his hang gesture.

[@BeStill-zy5ye]

Jesus is the Lord and the biggest hero ever.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

It took so long for the Bible to be subjected to historical scrutiny because a religion cannot recognize itself as a belief system because its supposed to be true. It operates a a belief system, a sustaining myth, specifically so that can assume this epistemic, or meta-episitemic, status. Only other mythologies can be recognized as religions, but "our" religion isn't really a religion because its the true one. Christianity cannot ask who Jesus really was because to do so because the question itself would be a non-sequitur. "We know who Jesus was. It says right there in the word of God." "Yes, but does the biblical account match the historical and archeological evidence? what was the historical Jesus like?" "I don't know what you're talking about. There is no historical Jesus -- there's just Jesus. Now desist from the blasphemous talk before someone locks you away." The biblical account, from the standpoint of Christianity, is not history it is _the past itself_ a History is an interpretation of the past based on the available evidence. There are really very many histories, so what we mean by the term is not really history but the epistemic endeavor of history -- since we can't in good conscience call it a science now that physics has set the standard for what a science should be in contrast to the humanities. But in Nietzsche's time, history is one of the things that might well have been called a science in the sense of the word Wissenschaft. But the rub comes in the Christian imposition towards truth and to discern it from delusion; To avoid getting lost in Plato's cave. That is the mechanism by which the clergy began to differentiate into the educational establishment and sowed the seeds of science that would go on to challenge and ultimately discredit the Christian belief system. From this we get history as an epistemic system. It is not a case of evil people scheming to lead people astray that the Christian worldview was undermined, but by perfectly upright Christians doing their devout duty. This is no great feat. It is common for myths to undermine their own assumptions and thereby discredit themselves as I hypothesis the Jewish tradition did when Israel succeed in constructing a temple for Yahweh in the promised land. The previous myth of austerity in the desert, far be it from enjoying a renaissance at it's fruition in Judea, lost it's significance to a people who now had a firmly established home. And so they worshiped other gods. Belief in Yahweh would not go through an actual renaissance until the first temple was destroyed and the Jewish people were enslaved in Babylon as they had been enslaved before in Egypt.

[@nikeshinning763]

Great post

[@MrPhone-ks8zy]

Jesus Christ is real and Nietzsche was wise but was world wise and not spirit wise that's why he doesn't understand who Jesus of Nazareth is. Jesus Christ is the king of the universe, he is the universe and he is the only eternal king .

[@Jesus_story_in_Talmud]

@@MrPhone-ks8zy 🔽 Gittin 57a:3-4 “Onkelos then went and raised Jesus the Nazarene from the grave through necromancy… What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement.” ................. Sanhedrin 43a:20 “On Passover Eve they hung the corpse of Jesus the Nazarene after they killed him by way of stoning … because he practiced sorcery, incited people to idol worship, and led the Jewish people astray.” ..................... Sotah 47a:14 “Jesus … went and stood up a brick and worshipped it as an idol … he caused the masses to sin … Jesus the Nazarene performed sorcery, and he incited the masses, and subverted the masses, and caused the Jewish people to sin.” ..................... Shabbat 104b:5 “Didn’t the infamous ben Stada. ben pandeira. jesus take magic spells out of Egypt … His mother’s husband, who acted as his father, was named Stada, but the one who had relations with his mother and fathered him was named Pandeira … his mother Miriam … This one strayed from her husband.”

[@Jesus_story_in_Talmud]

@@MrPhone-ks8zy jesus failed prophecy in bible ⬇️ those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. 32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 📣Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.📣

[@Hmblrckstr]

Jesus did have a hero’s journey. The Bible is full of them

[@samhinnant4416]

Jesus Christ is King, and all will kneel before him.

[@VSM101]

nope lmao

[@Sungod77777]

No.

[@serrato.]

The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? When will we have an answer...

[@TheMachiavellians]

This is a good analysis of Nietzsche's views of Jesus as a separate figure from Christ the mythological creation of the first Christian community. I am currently making a video about Nietzsche's use of the term "Antichrist" and how it relates to his opposition to "Christ" and traditional atheisms. It would be a good counterpart to this video.

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

Anti hero , Anti Christ someone like him but not him lol or someone who doesn't act like him but looks like him lol The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake images of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. seems not to be a myth lol Ephesus is a place in today turkey HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things Orphans and Ex slaves unmuseum maze Ship_of_Theseus Caerleon wales King Arthur or King Theseus ??. Augustus mausoleum Constantine's Sword

[@Plsfindmychanel]

Christ is not mythological creation, your thinking is very sinful

[@kidsyx]

I didnt know I've used the same analogy as neitzche just the other day in regards to jesus but instead of Napoleon i used 911 to pose that "writing about jesus even 20 years after his death and claiming his miracles to be accurate is like someone right now trying to write an accurate account about 911 from memory and claiming it to be 100% accurate. Hardly a source to be considered seriously."

[@olmaned3795]

That's right, He's God.

[@chalicotheremapping8921]

Nietzsche sounds a lot like a gnostic

[@freeman37]

Jesus is a Hero, as he is an example as to how to best bear each our own cross. Life is not as simple as Nietsche portrays it.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

I guess that would depend on how heroism is defined

[@rivkaki]

@@Chud_Bud_Supreme he suffered the ultimate sacrifice (death) for the betterment of every human being. that's pretty heroic to me

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

That assumes there was such a person.

[@chocolateneko9912]

​@@TheGuiltsOfUs which there was haha. Christ is King. ☦️

[@Orm-zn6fl]

The truth is that Jesus Christ was equal to His word, every single thing that He said He did. Now compare Nietzsche's way of life to his philosophy.

[@tkmyrie6565]

Why Nietzsche isn't alive- Jesus

[@peixeserra9116]

Speaks volumes of Christians that even the slightest critique, even one that recognizes the great Human being that was Yeshua, must immediately be silenced with mockery and death. It's hard to beat the allegations that such belief is a coping mechanism and a tool of control, when you word it like that.

[@havefaith4382]

@@peixeserra9116 you are coping right now lol

[@peixeserra9116]

@@havefaith4382 we all are. Who doesn't have a coping mechanism or a crutch to help get through life? I just despise people who like to pretend they're above all others. And guess I've found 2 already, lol.

[@havefaith4382]

@@peixeserra9116 you claimed christians are coping yet you are also coping so you have no ground to stand on

[@peixeserra9116]

@@havefaith4382 I do, because I am honest about it. Tell a religious person that their belief is a coping mechanism, a result of wanting to find reason in reality, you'll sooner be assaulted. I've no grounds to stand on, because I am honest?

[@SmugAmerican]

Yeah, even the bible states we humans are useless sinners and that we need Jesus to go to heaven. Because we're trash.

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

If Nietzsche was consistent with his own psychology he would have been a disciple of Jesus, Buddha, and Socrates. His own philosophy lends itself to a philosophy of this worldly liberation (of liberation here on Earth). But for some reason he had an extraordinary aesthetic attraction to the likes of Caesar, Alexander, Napoleon, etc. and an aversion to the lives of the aforementioned Jesus, Buddha, and Socrates. He was FAR more similar to the first three figures mentioned, but he desperately wanted to be more similar to the latter three. Nietzsche was truly a TRAGIC philosopher.

[@ConsciousnessExplored]

The latter had shinier objects but the former have stood the tests of time , influencing billions of people. Everyman wants to be perceived as outwardly dominant and powerful to intimidate his enemies but real power lies within. We can hate on Jesus but yet swaths of humans try to mimic him day in and day out while we causally discuss the legacies of conquerors tied to tribalism.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@ConsciousnessExplored Only the Jews actually do live as Jesus loved ironically enough. While the Christian’s have created a new way of living yet assign it to Jesus, who was an observant Jew.

[@ignipotent7276]

​@@mugikuyu9403thats a lie,Jews Dont Nor do Christians accurately live their lives as Christ did But Christians believe in Jesus teachings and some of them try to live like Jesus and spread his love while others struggle or want to show it their own way, Jews Reject Jesus and rely solely on the Law to be justified by God,While Jesus its only Faith in Him for the forgiveness of your sins,Works Do not play a role in Entering the Kingdom of God,its a free gift,Repenting and being saved,The Thief on the cross in his Humility was able to see Jesus as the Saviour ,as God because of his Humility,Believing on that cross , nothing to gain ,and yet believed. My point is that There are "Christians" who do apply their own teachings but The True Christians exist and are plenty,its just that Humans likewise focus on the bad or mistakes of others,And those who work hard or try to be recognised fail to be recognised,so they reconsider their worldly ambitions and focus on God,pleasing God.

[@Madasin_Paine]

​@@mugikuyu9403 More undeserved Tripe about people of the myth. See Illegal immoral fascist coep communist state of colonial Isrl entity Beyond apartheid! G isnt for genocide Heal the world from what!? Bringing the world to heel isnt the same value system. Any AbrahaMIC religion adherent True to their books are persecuted and isolated by TPTB and by themselves. Especially so in Palestine, Levant No. Africa or wherever else the Anglo American Saxon Protestant and Catholics orders loom large. It seems capitalism and Christianity are part of the same interminable grave PR ponzi control frauds. In this everlasting war of terror, all sides and Truth, lose at large. Dark ages upon the Renaissance as US U All. Beyond sad. Hellish!

[@rkumar7254]

Jesus can't be equalized to Buddha or Socrates. Jesus was a dirty, abrahamic , monotheistic manac who killed the philosophic Romans. Read the "Christian destruction of the classical world" by Catherine Nixey.

[@ChristianGilman]

I'm impressed by the complete lack of understanding shown here of Jesus and his teachings

[@samharper5881]

But... but... but... I heard... HIS VOICE IN MY HEAD! IT WAS HIM! JESUS TOLD ME I WAS SAAAAVED!

[@chocolateneko9912]

That's pretty cool.

[@viola308]

no one has really said this. "Saved" is a fundamentally new concept removed from any historicity in Christianity

[@leonardoschettino3162]

who would thought the guy who states that god is dead is the one who better sold me to the idea of christ until now