Why Nietzsche Loved Napoleon

[@WeltgeistYT]

Have you watched the new Napoleon movie yet? What did you think of it? Support us: www.patreon.com/WeltgeistYT

[@DrGoodcap]

Yes, it was awesome

[@ZM-dm3jg]

Garbage, 3/10, would not recommend. Transparently made by haters driven by an ideological agenda

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

​@whiterabbit9730That's everything from Hollywood. I wish Kubrick could've made his movie about Napoleon

[@Isocrates66]

It's like a Rom-com with occasional battles. Apart from the battle of Austerlitz, it gave little sense of why he was such a feared general.

[@PierreLittle_]

It was too condensed. I did not like the film's portrayal of his love life with Josephine and it seems simply a summary of his conquests and ultimate defeats. The film did manage to show the ancient form of duying with honor and courage in regimental formations with direct frontal confrontation. Sort of a duel of honor.

[@abgekappt8247]

Nietzsche just watched a lot of Napoleon Sigma edits

[@deadman746]

Or Napoleon Dynamite.

[@friedrichnietzsche2557]

Yep

[@mikegiamalva321]

What

[@CptKavlas]

😂😂😂

[@ahonnaga8854]

3 or 4 years ago I was of the opinion that I'm a sigma male in a world full of betas n alphas n I was quite satisfied. Ppl didn't know much abt Sigmas. But now these YTube Sigma shorts which I started noticing from last year has made me feel ashamed to associate with Sigmas even if I were to be a Sigma I would happily choose to be a Beta than a Sigma now. In short now I'll be more proud of being a Beta than a Sigma.

[@zootjitsu6767]

Goethe actually was a politician. And a botanist. And a geologist. And an optics scientist. And a playwright. And a painter.

[@raginald7mars408]

and BAD in ALL

[@AliCanTUNCER8]

​@@raginald7mars408lol

[@mrrohitjadhav470]

​@@raginald7mars408still we know name that's impressive

[@melomateus_m.r]

​@@raginald7mars408😂😂😂 and you are the famous who?

[@raginald7mars408]

@@melomateus_m.r Raginald Mars

[@orangemanbad]

Napoleon is one of the absolute giants in the history of the world.

[@tanura5830]

Napoleon is trash

[@smal750]

Yes

[@freckleheckler6311]

Including A.H

[@syourke3]

Even after he was defeated at Waterloo and exiled to St. Helena? Not really.

[@Loooeeeeeee3674]

@@syourke3mad Brit nice teeth

[@kostatsanidis9984]

The quote "a man like me cares little for the lives of millions" is on of Napoleon's most misrepresented quotes. It's often used to show his callousness, but is always given without context. Yes, (according to Metternich) he said this, but in an attempt to display strength or 'bluster' to show Metternich that "he was perfectly willing to return to war unless he received decent peace terms" Andrew Roberts, in Napoleon the Great. Metternich and the allies at this time (1813), were constantly offering very harsh and arguably unfair peace terms, despite Napoleon 's willingness to negotiate (they pretty much wanted him to renounce all conquests of his time as emperor). This also shows contrary to popular belief, Napoleon was not the warmonger he is often made out to be. In many ways it was the monarchs of Europe who perpetuated war since they couldn't stand the thought of Napoleon's existence as a ruler (a prime example is emperor Alexander of Russia - he is quoted as saying that he never had any intention of making peace with him and that "I would rather live as a hermit with a beard down to my legs eating potatoes than make peace with him", or something like that).

[@dialektischabgefahrenerwel1654]

It is absolutely untrue that the peace conditions offered by the allies were unfair and unacceptable. Even after the disastrous russian campaign and the following defeats in Germany, at a point at which a total French defeat was on the horizon, Napoleon was offered immediate peace within the imperial borders stretching beyond the Rhine river. This would have been a powerful position for France not only for the moment, but also going forward through the 19th century, as it would have held the German rhineland which became the center of industrialization on the mainland. Actually Metternich WANTED to keep France strong, because he needed them as an ally against a dominant Russia, threatening to emerge out of the Napoleonic Wars. But Napoleon was not willing to accept any compromise and brought about his ultimate downfall himself.

[@kostatsanidis9984]

The book I was reading described them as unfair, I guess because he eventually lost, the offers could be argued to have been fair (in hindsight). Also Metternich's relationship with Napoleon is complicated, it's unclear if he ever really wanted to make peace with France, I mean he was the architect behind turning Austria against France despite emperor Francis being Napoleon's father in law at that point.

[@dialektischabgefahrenerwel1654]

@@kostatsanidis9984 I guess most secondary sources about Napoleon are going to be very biased either for or against him, so it's hard to tell and a matter of perspective. But I do think that many of the absolute numbers speak strongly for the decision of not accepting the Frankfurt proposals being a great error and hubris by Napoleon.

[@mischabarattolo7598]

​@@kostatsanidis9984stop yip yapping

[@AngSt3r13]

⁠Completely true! You’re making a great “anti-Napoleon” point against a person who bases his opinion on Napoleon on Andrew Roberts though: Never has a man gobbled the ghost cock of another man like Andrew Roberts does Napoleon in his book Napoleon the Great

[@chesusjrist9733]

Nietzsche was the OG quiet kid.

[@DangoWangochu]

Nah that's foul 😭

[@metallicmonkey4519]

Fascinating that both Hegel and Nietzsche shared such an admiration for Napoleon.

[@alechboy3578]

Of course masons like each other...

[@wertyuiopasd6281]

christian cope @@alechboy3578

[@lepersonnage371]

​@@alechboy3578tf masons have to do with it

[@lobo-uh2tb]

​@@alechboy3578realy nietzsche was a mason ?

[@IanB3rry]

“Every one I don’t like in history is a freemason” - reactionary children’s guide to esoteric and philisophical discourse

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

Napoleon's vision of being lifted into the sky is the same elevation of consciousness which overcame Nietzsche in the form of Zarathustra; the same archetype. _I have walked on the surface of the sun. I have witnessed events so tiny and so fast they can hardly be said to have occured at all. But you, Adrian, you're just a man. The world's smartest man poses no greater threat to me than it's smartest termite._ -- Alan Moore describing the archetype of the Self through the character of Jon Osterman. It is the archetype of the Self which is the true architect of greatness. The so-called great man is merely it's instrument.

[@kevinbeck8836]

the vision of being lifted into the sky and sometimes even merging with the sun is found across time and cultures. I believe Ive heard it can be produced by near-death experiences. Anyways, I think your point about the archetype of the Self is flawed, at least from the perspective of Watchmen. For all his power, Dr. Manhattan was unable to prevent Adrian from achieving his goals. The "great man" did indeed triumph

[@hyperfluous4751]

Doc Manhantan said that quote juuust before being over-smarted by said termite. Needless to say, it didn't age too well.

[@Thomas-xd4cx]

@@kevinbeck8836 It's fiction of mediocre quality - what did you expect? That this says something about true great men? You really trust the nobody that writes this to even understand concepts like a master would? I find that laughable. I can take seriously a Tolkien or a C.S. Lewis - but this? Nah.

[@kevinbeck8836]

@@Thomas-xd4cx I happen to like Alan Moore quite a bit and greatly enjoyed reading Watchmen, I just disagreed with the point the OP was trying to make.

[@jamesmiller3548]

“These higher men simply do not concern themselves with the commoners.” At least not until they are devoured.

[@painpeace3619]

Psychopathic tendency

[@kevinbeck8836]

"I am the instrument of providence, she will use me as long as I accomplish her designs, then she will break me like a glass.” - Napoleon Seems he doesnt give commoners credit for anything 😂

[@a.r.h9919]

​@@painpeace3619nothing to do with psychopathy

[@gnomeimporta6912]

No amount of coping with imaginary outcomes will ever change your inferior status.

[@domthiers6598]

@@gnomeimporta6912 speaking facts but who are you talking to

[@Ariannie272]

Excellent, simply excellent video! Your grasp of Nietzsche is amazing.

[@liltick102]

I recommend Elie Faure’s novel Napoleon- underrated critic of artistic history

[@Stavroguine826]

0:49 Vercingétorix surrendering to Caesar in order to save as many of his men as possible after the Battle of Alesia. 7:50 Louis XIV, the Sun King.

[@Harrow_]

Amazing video. Honoured to have found you 2 years ago

[@DrGoodcap]

Just saw the movie yesterday, now my favorite KZbinr uploads this. Awesome . 😁

[@blksheep176]

Was it good, worth buying an iMax ticket?

[@DrGoodcap]

@@blksheep176 I really enjoyed it , the reviews I heard were not that good , but if you like history , you like napoleon, and war movies then you’ll love it.

[@eduardomesquitapasquali2331]

It is in english. IN ENGLISH.

[@filip4393]

if you like histor you will probalby be disapointed after watching movie@@blksheep176

[@Divide_et_lmpera]

@@eduardomesquitapasquali2331 Is that good or bad?

[@Dayz3O6]

You got to give Alexander and Napoleon credits, they both were on the battlefield, Alexander was always in the heat of battle with his men, Napoleon at one point fire the canon by himself.

[@theletterm5425]

Very excited for the Hegel follow-up video!

[@edgarh7879]

I love your videos on Nietzsche because they help me understand his works a lot. Can you recommend some secondary literature to dive even deeper? 🙏

[@mertcelen5536]

Such a good video to watch right after the Napeloen movie

[@abyzzwalker]

That's what I did, but the movie was just ok.

[@Classically.Inclined]

Great video! Thank you!

[@mikhailstavrogin]

I follow your channel for so long and I have wondered so many times how come you have not made the relation between Nietzsche and Napoleon into a singular video. Were you waiting this whole time for the release of the movie to drop the video on a "special" date? Wish you all the best! Keep up the good content!

[@msanx6574]

Nietzche glazing Napoleon is crazy

[@mohammadkamelan1047]

I'm looking for a comprehensive and accurate biography of Napoleon. Please give me recommendations.

[@historygateyt]

Andrew Robert's "Napoleon" is pretty good, the author obviously has some pro napoleon sentiments but the information is correct and it's thorough.

[@olivierpujol8772]

The best most complete Biography is "Bonaparte: (1769-1802)" by Patrice Guenifey It has been translated in English. like the title says it stops at 1802 but is already 1200 pages long. we are still waiting on the second volume 7 years later. I also highly advised to read on his Marshalls and the wives of time. There is an amazing biography on the Duchesse of Montebello the wife of marshal Lannes.

[@sullivandmitry1416]

Epic History TV has amazing documentaries on his campaigns and Andrew Roberts has the best single comprehensive biography on the man.

[@69eliamo69]

Very good video! I'm subscribing :)

[@WeltgeistYT]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kotharianlightning]

Nietzsche seems to have a misunderstanding of how the ancient aristocracies came into being, and that colors everything that he argues about them. The great chiefs of the original human tribes ruled as the first among equals, by the general will of their tribes. Some of them later became viewed as demi-gods and folk heroes, at their times they were simply the acknowledged leaders. However, aristocracy through history is always the result of the priest class colluding with chiefs to impose the subservience of a once free people. They create taboos that are designed to make specific persons more special/sacred than the rest of the population. Those enforced taboos then turn into the class distinctions (aristocracy: chief/chief's household/chief's personal warriors, middle class: priests, merchants, scholars, low class: everyone else). Point being, aristocracies came into being to degrade most of the population, not to uplift them. Such a system can only exist while the majority of a population conceives of itself as lesser than the rulers, and it's in the best interest of an aristocracy to keep the people simple and stupid, ensuring that great men don't arise among them. Given that aristocratic desire to suppress the natural nobility of humanity, it's honestly pretty fitting that most every aristocracy eventually collapses into a mass of manipulative backstabbing fops with superiority complexes.

[@adamastor9869]

"ruled as the first among equals, by the general will of their tribes" Because they were recognised as particularly competent. They also shaped the collective will and morality of the tribe, which is Nietszche's point. Everything that you consider good or evil was taught to you as such by society (in particular by both leaders and writers/artists), people nowadays are still obeying the likes of John Locke and Stuart Mill without even knowing who those men were. Nietszche was right that liberal values, seen through platonic or christian lenses, breed weakness and nihilism. But this can be fixed with a change in perspective. Without platonic forms, western democracy is a powerful, might makes right system.

[@kotharianlightning]

@@adamastor9869 There were some reformers, war heroes, and prophets who did have a particular impact on their peoples (sometimes for the better, other times for the worst). However, the point is that outside of the monotheistic/aristocratic context there is a much greater emphasis placed on personal psychological freedom. For example, consider that the most famous religious rite of Native Americans involves a young man going into the wilderness alone to survive and meditate on personal meaning. In Hinduism the personal devotional altar of a Hindu holds small images of various deities and gurus that are personally important to that specific Hindu, which may be added to or changed over their life. In most of the world the important rites were originally controlled by lodges/initiatory societies that an individual would choose and then have to prove themselves worthy to enter. In China there's an entire undercurrent of thought called Taoism which rejects the ideal of the celestial court that justifies the Confucian system (that story roughly teaching that in creating the world the gods raked up dirt that turned into the peasant population, while taking time to personally shape some dirt by hand that became the aristocracy). Just looking at the world today, the new aristocracies are China, North Korea, Russia, Iran, the theo-centric Middle Eastern countries, etc. And the sort of general population that is produced under those systems is very much a sort of slave-mind, someone who just does this or that because they're told to. And when they protest its almost always because their most base needs have not been met (I've seen so many protests out of China where the appeals are to satisfying their stomachs).

[@jeffreyreeves9854]

kotharianlightning Marx was a Satanist and also racist and a Jew-hater. We're all infected by cultural Marxism. But keep Marx in perspective.

[@StrategyCats]

Where is Thomas Paine? people losing common sense out here, just hateful goblins

[@jeffreyreeves9854]

@@StrategyCats You did not transmit a clear message. Your point missed the target. No clue what is your complaint.

[@kingdm8315]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS AND THE MOVIE DROPS TOMORROW. PERFECT TIMING.

[@jrddoubleu514]

Thar be tingles in ma pum.

[@ChristianSt97]

which movie?

[@jrddoubleu514]

@@ChristianSt97 Nippleon.

[@ChristianSt97]

@@jrddoubleu514 amazing

[@christianflores1339]

The movie was garbage

[@adamdixon2257]

Nietzsche thought Napoleon was an absolutely BASED BOY

[@Neapoleone-Buonaparte]

Napoleon (unfortunately) suffered from a secret wound of not trusting enough his eminent commanding marshalls to do the job assigned right, and kept interfering in their assigned missions, wasting his own nerves. But -- to have worthy subordinates, it is essential to make use of their lives sparingly and not sacrifice everything on one bet -- because it is essential for a genuine commander to preserve the sound stock of his subordinates or followers to be able to sustain the basis to fight on another day. And therein Napoleon failed, for even with the support of eminent Jews and Germans and Frenchmen, he still gambled away too many lives from the sound stock of the population that would be receptive to quality leadership in the future. Instead, his fall brought down the largest part of the sound stock of Europeans who would have been able to produce children as future men who could rise to the occasion when a better Napoleon emerges. France has been a basket case ever since Napoleon, and now Germany ever since Hitler who was a far inferior nature to Napoleon's. The result: the basket case of modern Europe that clings to the drying suckle of the boob of American leadership to provide for her future.

[@trvst5938]

They did rebuild Paris from the riches of empire. 💀 France forced its former African colonies to sell their uranium cheap. Fuck around find out.

[@ConfusedRevolutionary]

It's that a good thing or bad thing?

[@revi8300]

​@@ConfusedRevolutionaryrelying on the us as much as the eu does is bad, yes

[@ForageGardener]

Germany was a basket case before napoleon. Napoleon is the only reason the German empire ever emerged by destroying the HRE 😂

[@ForageGardener]

The problem with Germany and France is that neither one of them can control all of Europe and never will. Europe is a bunch of tiny countries that like to murder each other. Neither France or Germany will ever be world powers or superpowers ever again. The only reason any of these European states every were so powerful is because they were shooting defenseless people who didn't also have guns 😂

[@nabster9253]

Uberboyo also made a video about this very recently

[@kadaganchivinod8003]

waiting for the next video😍

[@TepidTrowel]

I want to know who embodies that character in today’s times. I guess we’re back in the time of thinking that napoleon-types have gone extinct. I think it’s inevitable that someone will take the torch someday.

[@fcbchris7]

Elon Musk

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

This is a lie.. Nietzsche said Napoleon was not Noble and didnt have the ability to pretend to be Noble, he said he was essentially of the "mob". This is in "Unfashionable observations". You are not somebody who has read Nietzsche's work widely. Much like the rest of "Nietzsche readers", you read one or two paragraphs and want to make speeches and videos about his work. Utter bin-material.

[@TheBlackfall234]

ive read most of his important works and couldnt remember a single sentence where showed his admiration for napoleon... so thats why :D

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@TheBlackfall234 Me too, and if you've read "Zarathustra", and we take the main character as a projection of Nietzche himself as "prophet", we know that most of the people who call themselves his followers or "Nietzscheans", will have nothing to do with him at all, and will not understand him at all.. I find that is true with almost everybody who calls themself "Nietzschean" or claims to be a "follower" of him.. So he basically predicted that nonsense videos like this would be made

[@--36--]

Please upvote this comment. I scrolled to all of them and it's sadening that so few point this blatant lie out.

[@nickmccarter2395]

I'm not sure why, but it's interesting to me that I get an ad for betterhelp during this video

[@Premiseandconclusion]

Here we go 🔥

[@oswurth8774]

2:20 Interesting as well that the doubtful dialectic culture we now have constantly demands invisible and nonexistent proof. The ability to command itself is withering.

[@danielkey929]

Do you have a transcript of this I can have?

[@black.sasuke.uchiha]

I’ve never seen this channel before. Weltgeist? Does that word mean “world spirit” or something roughly similar, in German? I live in a US state(Hints: horseshoe, racecar, zoo) that has a huge population of German descent.

[@ABO-Destiny]

Cannot agree more. Democracy or autocracy whatever the system the leader or even the subject must always go by his/her true self and not be just voice of population, it is much more easy in autocracy and very difficult in democracy as it is being used in many places.

[@Endymion766]

So which faction would Nietzsche play in Warhammer 40k? I'm thinking 90% would be Imperium, Adeptus Custodes. And I'm thinking Schopenhauer would be Necrons.

[@NapoleonCalland]

12:01 No one has ever contributed so much to improving the quality of life of the poorer classes. As for the quote to Metternich, he was bluffing, and Metternich knew that too. Felix Markham and many other authors have made the point that the Emperor was simply too decent a human being to not be touched by the suffering of others. 🦁☀️🐝⚡🦅⚡🐝☀️🦁

[@ginger22ly]

This shows up on feed now that Napoleon movie is out.

[@fdr100100]

the greatness of individuals throughout human history is an illusion based on the need to worship, the reality is all humans have the ability for greatness if and only if they are met with the correct external circumstances, those lucky enough to be bestowed by the perfect combination of factors internal and external will be propelled to their full potential but this quality and potential exists inside all of us, this is the case because all events are random napoleon's parents had no control of their birth nor the time they were born so given any event there needs to be someone that can act, if napoleon didn't exist then the part would have fallen on someone else

[@SC-gw8np]

I can sense a lot of bitter envy and resentment in your comment.

[@ryan.1990]

Guys be like "Yeah I reject slave morality" then go and pay all their taxes 😂

[@bencatzilla]

dumb, there's no choice

[@lepersonnage371]

What

[@maxabdulhadi]

slaves be like i reject slave morality then get born into slavery and serve masters

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

It is deeply foreign to Nietzsche's mentality to contemplate that a person might genuinely be disinterested in power, so he is necessarily seeks to conclude that such people are drawn to seek power by way of subterfuge rather than dominance. While that idea has a great deal of merit, it ignores the compensatory persective that the powerful seek dominance not because they aspire to greatness but because they fear weakness and destitution; that they are paranoid and insecure rather than bold and pioneering. Nietzsche must condemn the really very normal and healthy attitudes of the "last man" because otherwise he would have to admit that they represent a distinct and equally valid mode of life and of construing the world from his own as opposed to being defective versions of himself too cowardly to openly strive to seize the kingdom of heaven by storm.

[@hab0272]

Though i can imagine Nietsches philosophies to be inspiring i do think they have limitations. The idea of the will to power being essential seems to confuse an aspect of life with it's essence. Also the idea of master/slave morality seems a very crude dichotomy of values and also a bit triggering because "slave" is a rather dirty word that people dont want to identify with.

[@adamastor9869]

You're misunderstanding what Nietszche means by will to power, which is indeed a dificult concept to fully grasp. The "last men" do not fight for their lifestyle, those who do cannot be "last men". Right after the Ukraine invasion, some sensus came out claiming that most people in the West would not be willing to join a defense of their own countries if they where in the same situation. This right here is the issue. If western people trully loved democracy and liberalism, we would fight for it and perhaps even seek to propagate it. Instead, it seems most individuals simply prefer it over other systems in a very hedonistic, dispassionate, nihilistic sort of way.

[@Supiragon1998]

​@@adamastor9869 While it shows nihilism, it also shows most people aren't willing to die for globohomo, which is a good thing.

[@bruhdabones]

That is a good point, and I think it speaks to the criticisms he leveled against all other philosophies. As a weak man himself, he still could not fully see around his own corner. I think this contribution was meaningful. His idea of how one should live life is largely one I agree with as well. Not to the point of living like a Viking, but certainly in the broader attitudes it is appealing.

[@kevinbeck8836]

Ive yet to meet an individual who wants the opposite of greater control over their life. Nietzsche was more honest than you consider

[@ReadiusMaximus]

Is it just me or does the trailer for Napoleon have a very Nietzschean flavor to it?

[@bobbyokeefe4285]

Interesting,he was in deed anachronistic in a way,however,I can't help to note that,he is also a product of his time in spite of his aristocratic character,as Napoleon did through his conquests and his Code spread modern ideals such as Nationalism,Unitarian States and Universal Rights that did not exist in the ancient aristocratic world,which he inherited from the revolution,cause once you remove the Monarchical rule of Napoleon,these values can easily morphe into the modern world,that Nietzsche himself would go on to reject,the proof is in the pudding about 120 countries in the world base their legal system on his code.

[@john.premose]

Napoleon was the spirit of his age. There was nothing ancient about him. He was a threat to the “nobility” and the monarchies of the old regime. The theme of this video could not be more wrong and ahistorical. The reason Napoleon was such a threat was precisely because he was tearing down the old feudal aristocratic structure. And he was most definitely a child and a hero of the revolution. I don’t care what these clowns say.

[@bobbyokeefe4285]

Let's agree,he was a mixed bag lol...@@john.premose

[@KanadeTenshi]

nietzsche would disagree with you@@john.premose

[@john.premose]

@@KanadeTenshi oh, I'm quite sure he would. Fortunately I don't care that much for Nietzsche's opinion.

[@KanadeTenshi]

hmmm I thought this was a Nietzsche video? perhaps you have other reasons. I see...@@john.premose

[@Kid_Ikaris]

The man was history on horseback.

[@kludgedude]

What would he have said about Hitler?

[@AleRamiGo]

Little man of resentment.

[@Т1000-м1и]

I expect this to be the perfect video to represent internet edgelordship Edit: instead, if watched by the right person, it's a perfect representation of how nuanced ideologies actually are

[@basedmanlett]

Short Men have left the biggest mark on history. Yet women and normies will worship beta tall guys as "ubermensch". Short Men would do best to stop associating with normies and instead focus on their work.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

Napoleon is not short, he is Italian, and he is of average height compared to the French because they are Germans

[@basedmanlett]

@@عليياسر-ذ5ب go post this on every heightist comment which uses the term "napoleon complex".

[@tootall4this714]

So Griffith is just twink Napoleon

[@ehellsword2]

Essentially yes. He probably was inspired by him come to think of it. Their characters are very similar,

[@Hulgore]

“In life, unrelated to one’s social standing or class as determined by man, there are some people who, by nature, are keys that set the world in motion. They are the true elite, as dictated by the golden rule of the universe.”

[@ShareefusMaximus]

Why is it Napoleon season on the internet?

[@explorertoad8882]

Movie

[@tedgemberling2359]

So was Napoleon an Ubermensch? Was it a fall for France when it gave up monarchy about 1870 and made a permanent transition to democratic government?

[@duckpotat9818]

Somewhat ironically Lenin (and *maybe* Stalin*) qualifies by Nietchze's standard to be an Ubermensch but H!tler probably doesn't

[@ganargxkraken]

Lmao Nietzsche would have seen the revolution as a disgusting slave revolt.He is ubermensh is a cesar like figure that goes out and conquerors the world. He would have loved funny mustache man contrary to popular belief

[@hectoraubrey]

i have watched this video 2 times yesterday and today is the third

[@ayda2876]

3:20 so true

[@Hecklemysheckel]

Napoleon would have not cared for Nietzsche in the slightest

[@erdwaenor]

I didn't read Nietzsche. But exactly what Napoleon's movie (Joaquim Pheonix) can teach us, is something _about_ Nietzsche's Philosophy, but in this precisely, paradoxical sense: Those who think of themselves and behave themselves, as superior beings and by this kind of attitude and acts disrupting the lives of the other people, must NOT be treated with Respect by the 'common' people; on the contrary. It is only through individual and collective Indignation, and the Educated realisation of the logical consequences of the Barbarism and Destruction involved in the evilness corresponding to radical Narcissistic mindset and behavior from disruptive people such as Napoleon (but these dangerous people are everywhere, even though they are _relatively_ not that many), that can arise the true Ubermensch but as the 'new common people' ("Sigma" is a meme, but that's an interesting cultural reference). When everyone learns what Respect is and practices it radically (Respect for oneself and for the other who proves to deserve), then everyone becomes Ubermensch, and then no more Narcissist can take over power in human relations, whether in families, companies, institutions, governments, etc. You are not Ubermensch, if you are not able to teach this to yourself _and_ to your fellows. Of course, I'm here morphing the Ubermensch concept, in order to make it more powerful in this perspective: The real Ubermensch, is the individual that grow balls to learn and to teach these values, and to render the People's common sense, INTOLERABLE to "Fake Ubermensch", like was proven to be Napoleon, as well as other agressors. The Ubermensch is Intelorant to the Intelorants; and this means protecing not just oneself, but the others fellows which are or can become victims of the Fake Ubermensch. This is a Freezing War. Watch that Napoleon movie (because it is a subtle Deconstruction of the meaning of Napoleon _AND HENCE_ of the Nietzche's original concept of Ubermensch potentially), then watch the original Star Trek's controversial episode 22 _Space Seed_ from the 1º season. It all revolves around the most brilliant reasoning from Spock, in the first scene of the following video; Spock understands the logical consequence of homo sapiens falling in love with those 'enchanting' people (Fake Ubermensch), but he fails in teaching this reasoning to his fellows; their only luck, is because they live in Ficction in the future and not in the XXI century: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGrFgqWEhcd6j6s

[@hedgehog-x7n]

there's nothing we can do

[@LNVACVAC]

Hegel loved Napoleon too.

[@NapoleonCalland]

The World Spirit on horseback. 🦁☀️🐝⚡🦅⚡🐝☀️🦁

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of Why Nietzsche Loved Napoleon momentum 100

[@Existentialist-earthling52]

This video is better than the Ridley Scott movie.

[@ubervincent]

Do a video of what Nietzsche will think about Elon musk

[@jithinjose8065]

Where he failed in this is the anticipation of an ultimate modern society, like the time today, there's no ultimate human is not. Why? It's simply because of the political equality that society adopted( mainly because of the political integration of European culture) so how this will affec the human in future. Does this equality kill human race?

[@StephenS-2025]

Joaquin is a Spanish name that means “God will judge.” In Hebrew, Joaquin is derived from the name “Yehohanan,” which means “God is gracious”. Phoenix. Phoenicia. All roads lead to Sinai Peninsula. Jung would love this shit.

[@SC-gw8np]

So he's a Phoenician. The hooked nose is a give away.

[@uglukthemedicineman5933]

@@SC-gw8np According to the laws of judaism, he is 100% jewish yes.

[@rennor3498]

With such admiration for despots who bend the world over to their might because they found themselves in the selected category of those who forged themselves as natural leaders of their respective flock. I wonder what impression would Nietzsche have concluded on figures like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, who clearly fitted the picture of leaders who have an iron will, sense of leadership and an aptitude to see their plans carried to the bitter end regardless of the loss of life. Interestingly the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany during the period of 1930-1940s attempted to realise a synthesis between Nietzsche's understanding of the ''Übermensch'' and their respective ideologies to enforce upon the masses, thus concepts like the ideal: ''Soviet'' and '''Aryan'' man were born.

[@adamastor9869]

Nietszche would've greatly disliked them for the same reasons he wasn't a fan of Bismark, but a hundredfold. Atleast Bismark was actually strong, despite spreading what Nietszche saw as weak ideals. Hitler and Stalin were extremely weak and mentally ill themselves, using ideology and conspiracy theories to justify their mental illness and daddy issues (Nietszche hates everyone who hides behind ideology).

[@bryan8182]

Napoleon was firstly attacked by other monarchies who wanted to destroy french republic. Then, later on, he attacked Russian for breaking the agreement of maintaining the continental blockage against the British.

[@lepersonnage371]

What can you possibly even remotely know about the history of Hitler or Germany under him? Concept of Ubermensch there meant a man overcoming him animalistic urges in the service of a higher purpose in life. And that's it. It has nothing to do with some racial supremacism. Just like when they talked about aryans they meant preserving their own people in their own country. They said lots of times that they want all races and nations to be supreme in their own lands. You learn history by mainstream propaganda of winners

[@AleRamiGo]

He despised fanatical rulers like Savonarola or Robespierre. Also he despised Thomas Carlyle and his adulation of great men. But he liked Emerson.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

I think he would have grudgingly acknowledged the Russian revolution as a incremental improvement and Hitler as a psychotic sneaky little coke head.

[@talposdorin8266]

Do this guy even slept ever and why his wrrght hand was named as the best exterior minister ever

[@kalev_knight]

Hmmm. Now I'm a poorly read sheep. So it might already been done but I am ware of concepts. So I wonder how nietzhies ubermensch and the great men of history have over lap

[@twistedbydsign99]

Public school did not prepare me for Napolean

[@WatchYourLanguage-hj3ww]

it was good?

[@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895]

@@WatchYourLanguage-hj3wwno, i hope hes talking about public schools giving misninfo and propaganda about Napoleon, maybe devoting a few paragraphs to him… american public schools obfuscate, theyre no good for history

[@fdr100100]

this is wrong napoleon is exactly the type of person you would expect from a revolution, he represented the full potential of a gifted person who lived in a system based on liberty equality and brotherhood unbound by the previous 1000 years of restrictions, this is also why he seems ancient in his characteristics, but in actual fact the new system created in the French revolution was a rebirth of the ancient systems thus ofc an ancient man would emerge from that

[@Torgo1969]

Well stated. My understanding is that he was a standard-bearer of the ideal of Meritocracy so I feel compelled to learn more about him. The elements of Meritocracy here in the US are the reason why so many of us can get what we deserve in this life much more than we would under the rule of aristocrats.

[@D.R.O.P]

the million lives quote by Napoleon is out of context.

[@kabuti2839]

Nobility is only thought of as such by those few who find themselves accidentally in positions to which delusions of granduer propagate unhindered, whilst in actuality, it is merely a crude, manipulative & self deceptive career.

[@heikkijhautanen4576]

well Nietzsche was the nr 1 fanboy of this frenchie :P

[@phillipchavez1321]

📝 12:39-13:48 The making of great men

[@ryeguy7471]

Iconoclasts tend to be villains who get high on their own supply.

[@giuseppeboemi927]

Weird to think he was italian, the less warlike breed of the whole old world.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

The Roman Empire

[@giuseppeboemi927]

@@SuperGreatSphinx Long long time ago...

[@olivierpujol8772]

Italian national identity didn't even exist in Napoleon's day. He was actually the one to unify Italy after the fall of Rome. He was born in French corsica and never claimed to be anything but French after his rebelious teenage years being sent at the age of 10 in the best schools of France by his father. Why do people always hate the fact that he was French ? Are you guys anti-francophone xenophobe or something ? I don't remember Italy being at peace for a long period of time either.

[@mesa9724]

One thing I don’t understand is that Nietzdche doesn’t acknowledge other “heroes” of the medieval age but worships a man (Napoleon) that effectively ruined his nation and ended humiliated. Man that founded nations and such. Medieval history is filled with man that are noble and conquerors. The founder of the Rashidun Caliphate perhaps, D. Afonso Henriques (first King of Portugal), Richard the Lionheart etc.

[@goattier7728]

Abu Bakr?

[@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895]

Cope. What, you want him to praise mohammed next? Imagine thinking anything to do with the caliphates is “heroic”, or noble

[@bencatzilla]

But napoleon was no hero either his central desire was just personal power, not justice for others etc so how is he better than those involved with the caliphates?

[@mesa9724]

@@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 Bro I’m not Muslims, I’m Portuguese lol. You can’t deny the first Caliphate ability to conquer.

[@spacemanbill9501]

@@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895underdog inferiority complex. That’s their entire religion

[@JalapenoCookie]

Did Nietzsche ever consider himself to be of noble character?

[@We-Wuz-Great-201]

When he talks in praise of 'great men' he's basically bragging about his own self-image.

[@quentinsummers2531]

yes, maybe less in terms of character, definitely in terms of a thinker

[@thinkpolhub]

who doesnt like Napoleon 🤷‍♂️

[@NapoleonCalland]

“I always hate to compare Napoleon with Hitler, as it seems an insult to the great Emperor and warrior to connect him in any way with a squalid caucus boss and butcher.” Winston Churchill 🇬🇧 🇲🇫🦅 🦁☀️🐝⚡🦅⚡🐝☀️🦁 🦁☀️🐝⚡🦅⚡🐝☀️🦁

[@Cba409]

Great men from strict, traditionalist and conservative families.

[@Ascension7707]

03:40

[@rssyng]

i love napoleon too

[@RwandaBob]

man philosophy is interesting but i simply don’t value it with any weight i think people are way too complicated for even ourselves to understand. there are no absolutes. under the right circumstances, anyone would kill someone. anyone would lie to get what they want. anyone would be charitable, anyone would be cruel.

[@stanmarsh912]

If you liked Ridley Scott's new Napoleon movie you're probably someone who obeys and cant think for themselves. It's a propaganda film and nothing more.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Ridley Scott is an overrated hack

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

​@whiterabbit9730Hollywood is a propaganda machine, sadly

[@stanmarsh912]

@SonofTiamat I agree. The movie was woke garbage in my opinion.

[@stanmarsh912]

@whiterabbit9730 People in the theater were definitely eating it up. They can't think for themselves. I even had an argument with my girlfriend over it. She disagrees with me.

[@stanmarsh912]

@whiterabbit9730 ... also I saw it opening day and was kind of excited for it, I kept saying I hope there's no woke agenda involved, but here I am again. I should have known.

[@MT-jc1vo]

4:51

[@ishmaelforester9825]

A weakness of Nietzsche was his almost boyish love of a 'penny-dreadful' romantic view of worldly power. At some point, I dimly remember, he makes a sort of apology for Cambyses in Herodotus, who is described as brutally murdering somebody because he could. The details escape me. But anyway the point is Nietzsche had a tendency to overrate to the point of tickling and licking, like a dog at heel, the fingers if not the balls of predatory ruling classes.

[@tanura5830]

Well said

[@spacemanbill9501]

Erudites tend to believe this naively. A decent and necessary perspective, but not without its flaws and miscalculations. Leaving out a certain number of variables from the equation.

[@AleRamiGo]

He despised the ruling class of germany. And I remember he despised the cult of great men of Thomas Carlyle, but he liked the approach of Emerson.

[@fdr100100]

napoleon had no interest in becoming an emperor, he did so to be seen as an equal amongst the old guard of the European monarchs.

[@Lexthebarbarian]

If a man takes a woman's body against her will for his own pleasure, is that wrong or right according to Nietzsche? Who decides that this man is doing something immoral?

[@kNowFixx]

you're thinking in moralistic terms. pretty sure Nietzsche doesn't do that.

[@ugurgul4358]

Because he didn't know Atatürk...

[@Epaminondas_1977]

🦃

[@alexxx4434]

Nietzsche - a philosopher of the right.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

No Athenian citizen cared about being a famous in any particular field... the greatest drama writer didn't put any word about own achievements on own grave except one, taking part is one of many Athenians in a historical battle. Athenian "individualism" was totally collectivist and was building common good and culture without caring about egoist self and own greatness over others 😂 They chased ideal and they cared for whole chain of generations not about own place in history. Alexander came and single handedly destroyed this and whole Greek culture and identity he globalised greekness cutting it away from blood source the same as french egalitarianism without element of cherishing own bloodline and ancestral ways built upon genocide of own ethnic brothers en masse... Napoleon and revolution was cause of actual degradation of french ethnicities blended out from existence as french identity as well as german identity became universalised and globalised Napoleon being Corsican not French only added to it and promoted itself this direction... or Alexanders being Macedonian not fully Greek or Attila or Hitler or Stalin or British royals not being british, or many imposter "russian" Tzars or even Augustus in Rome, not son of Ceasar and not from original roman stock but one early added to Latins, not mentioning many Bysantian "Romans" if you manage a mix, mix promotes mix and mixing, and then you force centralism to unify this chaos to keep it together... if you know what you are you protect it and continue it and you don't even need to think about what is your identity as it just is Napoleon's code was copy of Roman but Roman from late Rome that was globalist and overrun by middle eastern element slowly rotting away without the essence that actually created these laws and made early success of Rome possible lol

[@footofblut981]

My question is if Nietzsche would have seen Hitler as a übermensch since him and napoleon would have a lot in common even though Nietzsche hated antisemitism and basically Fashism as well

[@swagkachu3784]

​@NaughtyGoyimhe wouldnt. He opposed nationalism and antisemitsm and these two are key components of nazism

[@carvingagiant]

8:59

[@AB-et6nj]

No wonder the Nazi's loved Nietzsche. I don't mean to reduce Nietzsche to Nazism, but I think too many are eager to take Nietzsche too seriously.

[@wicksinn]

Nietzche despised nationalism, especially the Germany variety of it, because he saw it as a popular movement 'as mob' and as such, not aristocratic.

[@cameronmclennan942]

​@@wicksinn You think if the Nazis had won, that after a few generations the top dogs wouldn't be considered noble? Every royal/noble family originally started out as just another bunch of power hungry pr!cks

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

Napoleon Bonaparte should have become an artist or a musician, instead of a soldier...

[@madaxgaming6405]

Oh

[@victorydaydeepstate]

Was Nietzsche influenced by Hegel? I know he read Ralph Waldo Emerson. I think Nietzsche was a Christian tormented by reality

[@post-structuralist]

As if

[@MT-jc1vo]

9:17

[@PierreLittle_]

Nietzsche fascination with power is where he went off track. It is wisdom that holds the crown, not power.

[@sureshn13]

Wisdom is a tool for power, Nietzsche is right on that. But power that is for self gratification is a lower form of power. That's what he perhaps didn't connect.

[@saimbhat6243]

As great as a philosopher I have realized nietzsche to be, equally boring have I found him as a man.

[@maxabdulhadi]

translation into normal speak: Nietzsche was good at philosophy and not much else

[@stoenyce]

Napoleon was controlled with an RFID chip that was removed from his skull