The Rise of 20-Hour Long Flights

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Animation by Josh Sherrington and Jorrit van Ginnkel (createjor.nl)
Sound by Graham Haerther (www.Haerther.net)
Thumbnail by Simon Buckmaster
Special thanks to Patreon supporters Alec M Watson, Andrew J Thom, Arkadiy Kulev, Chris Allen, Chris Barker, Connor J Smith, Daddy Donald, Etienne Dechamps, Eyal Matsliah, Hank Green, Harrison Wiener, James Hughes, James McIntosh, John & Becki Johnston, Keith Bopp, Kelly J Knight, Ken Lee, Kyle, KyQuan Phong, Manoj Kasyap Govindaraju, MyNameIsKir, Plinio Correa, Qui Le, Sheldon Zhao, Simen Nerleir, and Tim Robinson
Music by epidemicsound.com
Select footage courtesy the AP Archive
Footage Attributions (all clips Creative Commons, copyright free, or cleared with owner):
Cathay Pacific 777 landing shot courtesy PDX Aviation
a350 landing shot courtesy ZurichAirportSpotter
UPS footage courtesy UPS
Singapore Airlines a350 footage courtesy Amsterdam Airport Schiphol and Aviateur European Plane Spotted
Virgin Atlantic a340 footage courtesy Runway Fun
Qantas 787 footage courtesy Aviation Insider

[@Wendoverproductions]

As I mentioned at the end, I also did a video on the longest duration commercial flight in the world on my other channel, Half as Interesting--a little collaboration with myself. Check that video out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3XIe36HiN56jqs

[@dnlass460]

Wendover Productions spacex will make all these flights obsolete!!!!!!

[@shravan2010]

Where is Delhi to San Francisco Air India service ?

[@emmettturner9452]

June 2017 I was flying back from Thailand on Qatar Airways with a connecting flight in Doha, Qatar. This was right after several other countries closed their airspace to Qatar Airways due to allegations of Qatar’s government supporting terrorism (some say it was Russian manipulation seeding distrust). Of course, this forced our flight WAY out of the usual path and it ended up being longer than the longest commercial route that previously existed. We landed at JFK in New York as planned originally but, rather than restrict them from US airspace, they had imposed restrictions that made the flight even more difficult to bear: No laptops, phones, tablets, handheld electronics, etc were allowed on the flight. My New Nintendo 3DS XL was stolen in Thailand but my 3-month-old Nintendo Switch had to stay in the cargo hold. :( Luckily, their planes are posh and were well equipped for entertainment no matter what seats you have. I feel they were the best airline for this to possibly happen to from a passenger’s perspective. :)

[@comedyman4896]

Should've been 'the takeoff of 20 hour-long flights'

[@DeFlekkie]

Are you planning on making a video about the evolution of air travel in regard to climate change? Is the industry going to take a hit because of increased concerns about emissions? And is there a technological advancement ready to answer those concerns?

[@onemileperhour]

Can't wait for non stop Newark to Newark flights

[@Maserati7200]

@MosoGaming/Vlogs it's called paying $17 for waiting at a packed penn station not knowing what platform your train is on til 2 mins before the train leaves, and being trampled by the crowd fighting for a seat

[@aylyi-huh9355]

@@Maserati7200 +1

[@MrMilanoLau]

A cab can do it better

[@modrak]

Maserati7200 *flashbacks intensify*

[@malahammer]

Has to be west bound in the evening and east bound in the morning :)

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

You know it's gonna be a good Wendover video if it has any mention of planes in the title.

[@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs woah ur here

[@JaySliZe]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs why have I seen you in so many videos now

[@jameswilliams1398]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs you mean, every video?

[@MattPin]

lol

[@Firebolt193]

Iron Armenian is slowly replacing Justin Y as being the guy in every comments section

[@AngryGingerHorse]

Americans and Europeans: "I flew 12+ hours in economy once, never again!" Me, from NZ *cries in 13 hours just to reach Singapore for the next flight*

[@nehaha_17]

SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

[@annabellem7953]

I´m from Europe and I would love to fly longer than 12 hours, but I´m crazy for planes and love flying :D

[@PapaphobiaPictures]

I dont think Europeans or Americans understand the pain

[@starchy101]

Tbh I feel so sorry for new Zealanders, everything is so far for y'all

[@johnharkin5278]

Ive flown LHR to AKL via Changi

[@jerrygundecker743]

Do you know what happens to your luggage once you check it in at the desk? Neither does British Airways.

[@mylovesongs2429]

I like what comedian Gallagher said one time. He said something like "i went to the United Airlines terminal, and said 'i want this piece of luggage to go to New York City, and this other piece of luggage to go to Denver.' The lady at the counter said 'sorry. We can't do that.' I said 'bullshit! You did it yesterday!'"

[@RL-ue4dz]

@@mylovesongs2429 hilarious 😂

[@brazeiar9672]

British airways are pretty good. It's Ryanair you want to worry about.

[@MrPijus123]

@@brazeiar9672 Ryanair taught me just how much stuff I can fit in a carry on bag

[@Dan-zc7ut]

MrPijus123 once Ryanair told me my bag was 0.2 kg over the limit, so I took out my lunch from my bag and ate it right there, in front of them, they promptly apologised and just told me to get on the plane because they were running late, so I didn’t, I kept on eating slowly and made the flight late by 15 minutes.

[@durianhead]

the rise of approximately 12min long wendover productions videos

[@jeroenjansen2709]

Happy to see Airbus A350 is the winner

[@sasshole8121]

What? The Airbust A350 won the 12 min long Wendover Production video? @@jeroenjansen2709

[@benjaminmcintosh857]

I'd watch a whole doco

[@aandwdabest]

durianhead the rise of approximately 10 minutes long KZbin videos of any kind, in a nutshells

[@aandwdabest]

Jeroen Jansen Airbus a350 won, but let’s wait and see Boeing 777X

[@tripel9505]

Imagine being on a plane for 19 hours with your destination being Newark...

[@FeatheryBird]

RIMSHOT

[@StaticImage]

*HAHA*

[@Sol1taireTV]

LOL! GREAT COMMENT

[@james-p]

I've been to Newark. I'd probably shoot myself.

[@anthonyeaton9049]

This is basically the modern-day, transcontinental version of Fiorello La Guardia's outburst at Newark Airport. (Look up how LaGuardia Airport came to be; it's an exceedingly New York story.) And I love it.

[@moumous87]

“Until north became south”... that’s the start of an epic adventure

[@ppphhhoooeee]

360th like

[@tonychan8558]

Or a trigger for Flat-Earthers! hahahahaha

[@virtualpedestrian3271]

You: Sitting for 20 hour without moving Blood clot: *it's free real estate*

[@memegod4433]

Oh mi gawd

[@trash_warden6190]

You: sitting for 20 hours Blood flow: Am I a joke to you?

[@avada0]

@ThisKid They should put bunk beds in these flights. Same amount of people, only lying instead of sitting.

[@adfure017]

I did the Doha - auckland quite recently and that shit feels in your legs when you finally walk off

[@Jeremylovy]

Fuck me I did Doha to O'Hare 14 1/2 hours and I was about to lose my shit. Fuck an extra 5 1/2 hours.

[@JustAnotherGamer014]

Wendover Productions and Aviation. KZbin’s best love story

[@hijack69]

*STill a BeTtEr LoVe StOrY thAN tWiLiGht*

[@scottwaldron2765]

or squarespace

[@andersonklein3587]

"Some question whether trouble times are ahead for the industry" Yup, isn't it a mad world how you can plan years in advanced, down to the dollar of your fuel cost, and then 2020 happens.

[@Blex_040]

And then, after you dealt with the difficulties of a worldwide pandemic, almost 2 years later, putin happens...

[@aditsaini5094]

​@@Blex_040and then inflate

[@EdVonPelt]

@@aditsaini5094 The aviaton industry is not seeing the crisis. Airbus and Boeing have years of orders backlogged.

[@prestonage]

2021 update: Quantas does run the non-stop Sydney-London flight and it's flight time is an estimated 23 hours and 20 minutes.

[@alexiatrani786]

Perth to Rome also runs and is only 16 hours (considering Sydney to Dubai is 14.5) so its huge win

[@extremelyboiledpotato]

Qantas does not fly SYD-LHR non-stop yet, but they do fly SYD-LHR with a stop in SIN

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

"Because people are more sensitive to time than boxes." *Amazon Prime has entered the chat*

[@5star976]

GWS 😂😂😂

[@giveme30dollars]

Now I'm imagining boxes sitting in a passenger seat in an airplane. Thanks

[@chrisding1976]

William 💀💀💀💀

[@elijaha773]

But what about FedEx overnight delivery?

[@ppphhhoooeee]

680th like

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

Did you say *Plane?*

[@DomokosLajos]

Airbus A380 - 1000 25.000 Km 1200 Passenger 20 hours 20 minutes

[@KnowNot_Name]

Whispers* Did someone say Houston?

[@snay71]

so?

[@willtheprodigy3819]

Remember when this comment was funny? I don't.

[@gabe7509]

WillTheProdigy sex 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bruh9600]

2015: cheap oil 2019: cheap oil *coronavirus has entered the chat* 2020: cheap as a barbie doll that has been tortured

[@bxcsf9408]

yee

[@RottingFarmsTV]

>airline buys oil >Businessman runs over to give them money

[@phineas7423]

This video was oddly predictive

[@rayyansaleh8178]

just been on a $40 dollar delta flight from jfk to mia 😃

[@fortcrafterbossbehold9027]

Then 2021 with idiotic environmentalism on the loom: pricey oil

[@DLoza100]

This feels like a documentary from a long forgotten past of what could've been.

[@moptim]

This would be horror in economy class.. Just imagine flying this in business class though, I know I would be drunk out of my mind at touchdown

[@partypoet2012]

we need more guys like you when the English invented some sort of prop job they could actually fly across the ocean but by the time they got it to Market all the other airlines had jet engines you could have made a killing in England pitching your advice

[@bearcubdaycare]

A colleague found one of Singapore's ultra long flights tough enough in premium economy.

[@squeaksquawk4255]

@@partypoet2012 Are you reffering to the Bristol Brabazon?

[@planefan082]

Nah I love ultra-long economy flights

[@Anon48657]

Some of those flights don’t offer economy class

[@brunicorn]

The rise of neck pillow sales

[@yengsabio5315]

Right!

[@dslax9085]

I agree

[@TheMasterhomaster]

And they’re completely useless.

[@Eugenepanels]

hey i bought one it was awesome

[@tachadocarmelojudeb.355]

Economy seats should have built in massage for your ass for non stop flights. Lol

[@Eudomac99]

Imagine sitting next to Wendover productions on the Singapore to Newark flight.

[@SajidKhan-sk1jj]

Ok imagine

[@CockatooDude]

Best 20 hours ever.

[@victorang928]

Fast talker yeah?

[@Robert-yf1kn]

Imagine if you were sitting there and you had to go to the bathroom to take a shit and on the way to the bathroom you shit in your pants.

[@joncalon190]

@@Robert-yf1kn Can you imagine how uncomfortable you would be if you were one of those types of people who would never use a public bathroom on a 20hr flight? Like seriously, how could you hold it for more than 22+ hours? (factoring in that you can't use an airport washroom either...)

[@kerbonaut2059]

>uses fuel to carry fuel The burden of the Rocket Equation

[@noonehere4332]

Dabbing Kerbonaut Kerbal players know that pain

[@jazzerson7087]

Hopefully laser propulsion will come into fruition soon enough on both, worry about fuel and amount of weight needed to store fuel will become a thing of the past!

[@volka2199]

Just slap some SRBs on and you are good. No need for all these fancy calculations and SSTOs.

[@KandiKlover]

At least until you go nuclear.

[@seraphina985]

@@jazzerson7087 Laser propulsion is less than ideal inside an atmosphere, the reason for this is the same reason why you see the whole sky lit up during the day and not just a white-hot circle of intense light where the sun is. That being that the atmosphere scatters light passing through it though this is much much worse at lower altitudes where the air is thicker. This would require a much larger sail to pick up enough of the beam but this also increases the thrust needed exponentially as the sail also massively increases air drag which leads to a catch 22. Perhaps it could work with a hybrid scramjet to get the plane up high into the stratosphere before unfurling the sail so a satellite can push it but I am not sure and don't feel like doing the math right now.

[@ndv135]

10:55 I thought that was a picture till the guy walked out of the door.

[@theCodyReeder]

Ah straight lines indicating travel over a curved surface. I wonder how long before some flat earther uses this as evidence the earth is actually flat.

[@declannewton2556]

You can't argue with flat earthers. They somehow manage to take contradictory evidence and spin it such in a way it makes them seem correct in their own minds.

[@SpJrD]

Cody'sLab here’s homework for you, if Australia is close to Chile, then how come no “functional” flights for this route? If you search Qantas there’s a flight. However, it’s not functional, all Australia to Chile flights MUST fly to LA and such then head to Chile, this highly support flat earth as Australia and Chile are in opposite to each other in flat earth model.

[@InfiniteRhombus]

they do, they also use the horizon as evidence that the earth is flat because the curvature of the earth is too great to actually see, which is also fucking stupid.

[@naturalgamerplaynaturaly]

super

[@euphony5552]

J It is proven that New Zealand is next to Australia, you can get there in an hour from Melbourne, and air New Zealand has direct flights to it. So no there are functional flights across the pacific.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Boxes have feelings too!

[@ceiling771]

#stopboxabuse

[@santamariamarvy]

#boxlivesmatter

[@hiddenmelodies9282]

#stopboxabuse

[@Coolsomeone234]

@@ceiling771 #BoxLivesMatters

[@fabiobaida6597]

Boxists!

[@alex2143]

I absolutely love the idea of Emirates etc of using a hub and spike network type of architecture in this way. A single stop isn’t all that terrible, and in order to connect one European city to all of the other cities in its network and vice versa, it only needs one additional flight.

[@rationalpi6755]

I love how this channel always lists the references unlike many other channels, they make up a lot of facts

[@jordynchan5103]

"Until north became south..." Take that, flat-earthers!

[@boudewijnb]

Jess Chan this would work on that stupid flat earth model too

[@rafaelalodio5116]

Flat earthers don't really care with facts, nor common sense.

[@KD-ns1hn]

@@boudewijnb uhh how exactly?

[@benjaminodinakaHOODKIZK]

BoudewijnB 😂😂😂

[@SarahScratches]

@@KD-ns1hn Flat-earthers believe that the arctic is in the center of a flat disk-shaped world. So flying over the arctic is no problem. Antarctica would be more of a problem in their view.

[@noname89636]

I like long, non-stop flights because you don't have to worry about a connecting flight being canceled or delayed. Once you are on your flight you are going to your destination and I like the peace of mind in knowing that.

[@Dcc357]

My tailbone would be the only cushion left after just 5 hours.

[@jack_leinen]

Dcc357 mine would be the last cushion after an hour and a half

[@volka2199]

I thought you wrote Taliban for a second...

[@raahimhadi4905]

@@volka2199 bruh..

[@ejfour15]

Me: How many airplane and aviation videos will you make? Wendover: Yes

[@liamtahaney713]

La to Sydney is the longest flight I've been on it was nuts. Can't imagine another 5 hours

[@ellaturkiewicz333]

Liam Tahaney did brisbane to LA last year myself, absolutely insane

[@vishalgiraddi5357]

Ask someone who did doha to Auckland....✋✋ Went nuts sitting for 16 and half hours

[@usa5893]

Mine wasn’t a flight, but a drive, I drove 18 hours from Bentonville, AR and to Denver, CL.

[@XSpImmaLion]

I am just thankful that I live in a day an age when someone in brazilian middle class (me and family), could afford to fly twice so far over their lifetimes to the other side of the planet (Japan). This took a decade of savings, and both our routes had flyover stops (first one was Toronto and then via Pacific, the second was in Qatar via Atlantic), but if you think about it, just amazing that it's even possible. We're talking about almost literally, the other side of the planet. Parts of Brazil are the closest to being perfect antipodes of parts of Japan. Comparing to how my grandparents and grand grand parents migrated less than 100 years ago from Japan to Brazil, boarding ships that took almost a couple of months to traverse the same distance.... like 50 somethings days to less than 2 including waiting times in the flyover destinations. How the crap. In a single lifetime. It also seems that we're reaching peak optimization there. The interests have shifted to making flight cheaper rather than faster, so this is kind of a glorious moment to be alive in history. xD Man, it's mindblowing... perhaps someday in the distant future we can travel directly through tunnels bore straight through the planet, or some sort of teleportation device, but until then, I'm not exactly expecting another huge leap in prices going down and speeds going up in such a short period of time...

[@julosx]

Ironically, a Boeing 707-323C disappeared once during a cargo flight between Tokyo Narita and Rio de Janeiro, in 1979. It just vanished (Varig flight 967). Even worse, for its captain, Gilberto Araujo Da Silva, it was his second near or death in plane driving : he had his first air crash only 6 years before in another 707 that sent ad patres 134 souls. Of his last crash, nothing and no-one have ever been found.

[@charlesferdinand422]

Fuck Brazil.

[@kentokyo]

I agree with you completely. The world is getting smaller but the earth is still huge. I hope one day, there is a non-stop flight connects Tokyo and San Paulo !

[@kimlau4285]

Mean to say... but your grandparent made a bad decision to immigrant to Brazil. You will become much richer if you were born and raised in Japan. Moreover, spending a decade of saving just to travel to Japan doesn't worth it at all....

[@LordArioh]

it takes me less than a salary to fly to Japan for a month every year. especially the flight being the cheapest part. EU.

[@ptuxermann]

Brilliant!

[@healthdios]

We all miss Concorde: under 3 hours across the Atlantic.....that sounds so last century.

[@wojciechmuras553]

But with its range, any longer route required a ton of refueling stops.

[@nathanoher4865]

@@wojciechmuras553 If it were not for the p*ssy US overland supersonic flight ban, much of these concerns would disappear. It is simply natural for an industry to evolve as it progresses. The market would demand better service and as such, technology would advance to the point that many problems are eventually solved. Imagine if we had companies competing for supersonic aircraft today that are efficient, clean, and comfortable. Elongated Muskrat himself has hypothesized that the US domestic market could have been far more profitable had flights of range 1000-1500 miles been replaced at least in part with supersonic flights. If by “last century” you mean normal, I completely agree

[@henryzhang3961]

@@nathanoher4865 I heard an argument for the overland ban that really stuck with me; the boom will be audible to tens of thousands, but the plane only carries 100 people; it will be disrupting everyone for the benefit of the richer passengers that can afford it. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_sonic_boom_tests) people apparently aren't affected much by it anyway, but there may be some property damage

[@nathanoher4865]

@@henryzhang3961 NASA is developing technology that weakens aircraft sonic booms. These technologies could have been developed earlier had industry been allowed to progress. The flights Musk was referring to included cargo. Amazon is, indeed, available to and used by everyone. Meanwhile, the fuel inefficiency problem would have been worked on in the same way that subsonic passenger planes are becoming more efficient.

[@compassioncampaigner728]

Do I recall debris on the runway was the reason for the only Concorde crash? Not the plane's fault?

[@aaronworsnop]

7:46 I’m glad you said Kiwi not New Zealandian

[@RRoxas65]

What? Hahaha!

[@acchaladka]

* New Zed-lian is cool too though.

[@Prodigious1One]

I say, "New Zealander". LOL.

[@edsr164]

So was I

[@jediael9906]

I mean you're all fake so it doesn't matter

[@rigor.m9422]

Plane related wendover is what keeps me alive

[@taketimeout2share]

This video has genuinely educated me. Thank you. I didn't realize that it is cheaper, fuel wise, to stop along the route beyond a certain distance.

[@TheHolyEmerald]

We need straight flights from Miami to India or at least China/Japan/Australia/somewhere in East Asia. This is the third most populated state in the USA and there's still only just 3 flights that fly directly from Miami/Ft. Lauderdale to Asia. Funny.

[@ZK-APA]

The Holy Emerald the thing with USA-India flights is that since the Middle East airports are so well connected to the bulk of Indian airports that it’s more practical to fly via any middle Eastern airline than India-USA (as only delhi and Mumbai makes sense for any flight to come from USA)

[@AJ-lh4fp]

ZK-APA true but there are already many flights directly from the US to India: San Francisco, New York (including EWR), Chicago, DC, etc. So makes sense to add a direct flight to another city or 2- one in Florida or Texas would be nice

[@coconutboy8198]

india has a much lower demand compared to other asian countries for example singapore or china.

[@jarodmorris611]

My flight instructor now flies for FedEx. He said people are far more concerned with getting their package to arrive on time rather than their mother in law to arrive on time

[@giacomosmiderle9717]

I mean.... He does have a point

[@niceyolk7380]

Imagine sitting in an economy seat for 20 hours.. LOL

[@StaticImage]

Cyanide pills aren't even included in the price

[@dijoxx]

It can be heaven or hell. Totally depends on the airline.

[@JarodPlaysGames]

Singapore Airlines only offers premium economy and up on this route

[@MrRobcher]

Imagine if you are even tall and need leg space to sleep,you practically don't sleep or you take sleeping pills

[@Tony_P]

A380 economy is as good as it gets , generous legroom , seats are comfy and a decent entertainment system. Thats my experience on Qantas and Emirates 16 hour flights

[@Delight101ful]

Every Wendover video about planes makes me want to hop on the next flight out of Los Angeles and see the world.

[@frans97]

ME: I’ve finally finished planning the itineraries for my 2020 flights. Virus: I’m about to end this man’s vacation.

[@thejesuschrist]

I'd rather sit in economy class for 20 hours, than a donkey for 20 minutes.

[@RenTheGreat]

This is a verified jesus lol

[@sunjamin99]

Is your brother Satan?

[@eman21_gg76]

Sup jesus

[@Admiral_Jezza]

@@RenTheGreat Yep, KZbin verified that he's the actual Jesus.

[@cowboycat88]

How is Jesus commenting on every video loooool the lord's power is real

[@raiyan3348]

*The only good Wendover Production Videos are the ones with planes in them* - Abraham Lincoln

[@carlhuck7721]

20 hours in coach? JUST SHOOT ME.

[@lillycham]

Omg 21hours flight time....i think I've just suffered a panic attack 😂

[@rayanaltowayan9558]

*B747 and A380 has left the chat*

[@StaticImage]

Ouch

[@StaticImage]

The 747... I heart the 747 so much

[@Taydrum]

TOO SOON

[@mxhddr]

B747 left a long time ago

[@neelparmar6690]

Have*

[@Robm024]

finally another planes video

[@joshuajoe1419]

Robert go to half as interesting The made a couple recently

[@Cruelaid]

Can you give those 20hr flights a Doug score?

[@phunkyfeelone]

For Daily, they'd get a 2 out of 10.

[@StreetDrilla]

appearance is a 10/10

[@cageordie]

20 hours of hell. Never on United. I might rather die than spend 20 hours in United Economy class.

[@volka2199]

United Economy is literal garbage, I was using a European airline on an 8 hour flight but the new 787 was not yet in use and I believed several aircraft were being refitted so the flight was operated by United. Imagine a domestic flight on United economy and then imagine flying to Europe. While sitting on the plane you are more concerned about whether your legs will have to be amputated upon landing rather than how uncomfortable or crowded it is. The thin prop plane I flew on afterwards on a 40 minute flight was like Emirate airlines compared to the United flight.

[@syafiqrizuan5588]

@@volka2199 Absolutely true. We already know that United flying on LAX to SIN route is half empty. Thats because economy class on ultra long haul flight is more expensive. That reason why United is rather to operate on SFO to SIN route because less payload restriction.

[@arthas640]

just take some of the money you saved on economy class and get hammered or buy a few xanax. I'll sleep through an economy flight if it means saving a few hundred bucks.

[@TheDavo10001]

Oh man bad memories. I bought flights from Melbourne - Sydney - San Francisco - Washington DC on United because they were a few hundred AUD cheaper than Qantas. Big mistake. Shitty old 747 from MEL-SYD had mechanical issues. So we waited. Then got to Sydney. Boarded. Let's go! Nope, mechanical issues. We sat on the tarmac for hours, with no engines running, getting ever hotter (it was summer) so by the time we departed 7 hours late, the whole plane smelt of body odour. Then it was the bad food, lack of personal entertainment (yes, in 2006, they STILL were using a projector and shared screen for movies). And of course by the time I got to SF the connections were blown. I think I arrived at Washington around 1 in the morning. UNITED. NEVER. AGAIN.

[@kooljiang7186]

7:46 I’m glad you said Kiwi not New Zealandian

[@ej_tech]

A fun fact about the Philippine Airlines' Manila to New York flight: Originally that route was served by a 777-300ER with a fuel stop at Vancouver. With the arrival of PAL's order of A350 just this September, that route can now be a completely non-stop service.

[@spongebobtentacles5393]

Salamat

[@peesinyourass]

But it thoughr that 777 have better range than a350s

[@kazedcat]

@@peesinyourass Well as the video explain the reason is economics. Having a stop over is cheaper. New fuel efficient planes make the economics of non stop flights work.

[@ej_tech]

777-300ER range: 13,650 km A350-900 range: 15,000 km MNL to JFK: 13,673 km and expect many Filipinos to maximize their baggage allowance with "pasalubong."

[@leftatedsa]

Bravo Philippine Airlines.

[@BobMcCoy]

*_Concorde wants to know your location_*

[@roadrunner6224]

_Bob McCoy probably not as many people didn’t even want to cram themselves into that tin can on regular bases for a 3 hour flight let alone 9-10 hours

[@elopeous3285]

Concorde wanted to know your location

[@Samlee-kz5dk]

Peter Zwegert that was for price reasons. Only the rich could afford to.

[@brianxavier8873]

Lisa Guerrero would confront that concorde

[@roadrunner6224]

SaltySteve no it wasn’t there was simply no demand for this type of plane, business travelers prefer to simply spend a night on the plane in much more luxury than to commute more than 6 hours a day in tin can.

[@Kanhow]

One pandemic and one invasion later, would be interesting with an update.

[@fishwater2745]

20 hour flight that sounds like hell i strugle with 8 hours flights

[@jackiestarr2881]

Airlines are more concern about economics than travelers health.

[@arcaipekyun4232]

Jackie Starr nope, its the passengers who choose this (also explained in the video)

[@juanpabloramirez1838]

Yay airplane productions is back.

[@stevep5408]

Anything nonstop is just a reduction is crap that can go wrong. A lot less chance of lost luggage, delays to make you miss your connecting flight, having to haul your butt through another airport, extra tickets. Just so many reasons to want to avoid hassles.

[@Zakirbhai786]

Steve P exactly

[@Nebs1]

Plus the most dangerous part of flying is takeoff and then landing. Cruising is pretty safe.

[@thirdofthefourth8738]

I can just sense the excitement in Wendover whenever he flies anywhere. I can imagine he'll know more than most!

[@stetoomar581]

Very good job @Wendover! Your videos are super well structured and you could clearly see the amount of good work and passion you guys put in there. I'm looking forward to the next one already!

[@turbojake3457]

Phew I was getting worried we haven’t had a plane vid in 2 months

[@garyjohalasmr727]

I know eh...

[@fivesquaredyt2521]

TurboJake 169 likes

[@richcharlesmond]

This is crazy because I’m flying from Perth to London literally tomorrow.

[@MsMinoula]

Tell us how it was.

[@jenda386]

Yes, please.

[@matthewsmith8727]

I flew to Perth from London, and hated the flight we upgraded on the way home and it was still horrible

[@IoOLOoOfficial]

@@matthewsmith8727 Not enough sheilas on board eh Matt?

[@matthewsmith8727]

Lian Peled rude staff horrible food just an all round miserable flight

[@jasongravanis5171]

This is one of my favourite videos you've done. Very comprehensive and concise explanation!

[@deu8894]

I always enjoy watching videos on this channel. Looking forward to more videos. Keep up the good work

[@akhilmaverick96]

Just imagine having to sit in economy class in one of these 20 hour flights. This will definitely cause many health risks for passengers and crew members.

[@seanviper99]

What about 14 hour flights like from Sydney to dubai

[@jessica87au]

Redline600 every bloody flight out of Australia is like 14 hours.

[@wotan20]

Well Akhil, there are two sets of crew in those flights, as well as a dedicated crew compartment, where they can lay down for a few hours between shifts, so I'm not worrying about them, particularly because they are for the most part young and fit. However passengers are a different story, and that is the point I agree with you. I would be reluctant to let board aging passengers to such a long flight, particularly on economy. The chance to develop potentially lethal or blood-clot induced heart attack, is way too high. I half-joked on another venue, that if I were an airline, I would insist on passengers passing a mandatory medical check-up over a certain age, before I'd let those on board.

[@asteve4914]

jessica87au - cry me a river; I live in New Zealand!! :p

[@seanviper99]

@@asteve4914 so how long is your flight out of Australia

[@hazridge]

Grammar error in the title. "20 Hour-Long Flights" implies there are 20 flights that are each 1 hour long. "20-hour long flights" is what it should say.

[@markusnl]

Or 20-Hour-Long Flights?

[@ChromeColossus]

Intentionally Left Blank, You are correct.

[@daryx.langdale]

I'd be interested in a Wendover video about that topic also.

[@hazridge]

@@markusnl I think '20-hour-long flights' is ambiguous

[@nichts5713]

who cares about gramar.

[@mondaymotivator_]

Me: sits 18 hours in the back of economy Blood circulation: I gotta get out of here

[@sking2173]

I enjoy this "new" nonstop trend. Every time you stop, it creates a possibility of some form of delay. The less stops, the better .....

[@ToxicMrSmith]

Just in case you didn't know. QANTAS Is Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service.

[@jconrad8585]

Thanks. I always wondered what the name meant.

[@mylovesongs2429]

Wow! I will sleep better tonight!

[@karlp8484]

I think the main reasons why very long non-stop flights are heavily subscribed is that with a two hour layover (typical) it's actually more exhausting because you have to sit or wander around in a terminal. And all the hassle of unboarding and reboarding. Not everyone has lounge access. If the flight basically has BC or PE only (like Singapore) that's a great option.

[@Marco-hl6gz]

Fuel prices: are low Iran and US: I’m about to end this man entire career

[@HedgehogStudios1]

I recently did an 11-hour flight from LAX to LHR on a 747. I can't imagine going any longer than that. I guess it's not so bad if you have 10-grand for a bed.

[@Jdm491]

On Lufthansa my family and I flew from Los Angeles to Munich on the A340-600 and we got 3 lie flat business seats for 1800$

[@tirthp1735]

Non-stop from US to North Korea would be the ultimate achievement. :)

[@alexo.1388]

One way ticket?

[@steeltrap3800]

I live in Aus and I used Cathay for the last 3 trips to EU. Premium economy, which isn't cheap, but still much less than Qantas (which admittedly many say is one of the best PE available) and even Singapore's versions. I did BA once, and never again. They were dreadful. Unless you're going to London, Qantas really isn't the best option IMO. Even if you are, they are significantly more expensive unless you can get a special rate booking a year or more in advance. As for the Perth direct flight, for the vast majority of Aussies Perth itself is 5+ hours to reach, more once you add travel to the airport etc. No reason to do that flight from the East coast, and I'm surprised to see the load rate is as high as you said. Interesting stuff.

[@FrozenDung]

I am flying from London Gatwick to Auckland in August, so excited! Doha to Auckland sounds like a killer though as that's what I'm going on. BA > Doha - Qatar Airways > Auckland

[@IStillLikeIke]

“I insist that my flight stop - preferably at an airport!” - George Carlin

[@mylovesongs2429]

"It's those sudden cornfield and housing development stops that seem to interrupt the flow of my day!"

[@brianping410]

I’m looking forward to Wendover’s “Why the A380 Failed.”

[@salokin3087]

Recently did a trip from Sydney to Istanbul, uncomfortable, but incredible feats of technology

[@sharnistevens1428]

I think these long flights are relatively common for Australians these days. Pop a sleeping tablet and have a sleep, 20 hours feels like a deep 4 hour sleep :)

[@buraksimsek7264]

There is no non-stop flight between Australie and Turkey yet so it doesnt count.

[@vincesvv]

@@buraksimsek7264 ewa

[@vilitspiipol]

@@buraksimsek7264 he didn't say that he flew straight to Istanbul

[@buraksimsek7264]

@@vilitspiipol I know he didnt, but what he says is random as there is no such flight on that route.

[@james-p]

At this point (20 hours), I think we're running into the limits of human endurance. The machines can do it, but our bodies hurt.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

*The rise of luxury passenger planes*

[@rafaelrp07]

We're close to an era where you could cross the globe under a full day period but people still complaining. Our grandfathers were happy enough not dying in a world war or expecting to avoid a nuclear war back then...

[@JoelJames2]

@@rafaelrp07 And they were approaching an age where things could be electrically powered, and they didn't have to break their backs working on a farm. Your point?

[@kayseek1248]

And I thought my flight from Sydney to Vancouver was long.

[@kayseek1248]

Clark Gable 14 hours is still quite a long flight I must admit.

[@funk44]

I do Melbourne to Vancouver and back once a year. It's brutal

[@kayseek1248]

funk44 shit

[@Duricas]

I took an 11 hour trip from Los Angeles to London and never again. After hour 7, i'm ready to get off. You'd have to pay me to go 20 hours.

[@lizzsszzy7800]

My thoughts exactly on LAX-FRA! Wish the plane could've landed in Greenland!

[@fluffigverbimmelt]

Really? Did the 9h Bali-Dubai and it was wonderful. No problem at all. And that was my first long haul. Probably depends a lot on the carrier, though.

[@mylovesongs2429]

In that time, you could watch the Lord of the Rings trilogy (9 hours) twice, and take in another 2 hour flick.

[@terrenceklaverweide6356]

Yup.

[@bo-bx5hn]

Meanwhile it still costs $650+ to take a trip from Ontario to Alberta...

[@MarijuanaCanada]

Swoop airlines is getting cheap if you can travel to Hamilton.

[@bo-bx5hn]

@@MarijuanaCanada swoop will only be cheap until it chokes out flair. Then same ol. I usually fly one of these two, but they're only cheap sometimes and typically have the worst flight schedules, unfortunately.

[@JennWanderer]

It's often cheaper to go to a Mexican or Cuban all inclusive for a week.

[@bo-bx5hn]

@@OnnSight over - regulated and oligopoly, more likely.

[@ivanfperez56]

Really!; flying a bush plane or a BEAVER???.

[@jacksonholbrook7042]

As an Australian, the issue with the Perth to London one shot flight, is that most travelers live on the east coast, not the west coast, and more often then not you have to either fly to Perth the night before, and fly out the next morning, or fly in in the morning, and not fly out untill that night. So untill we get straight shot's from Melbourne/Sydney it's still a bad system

[@ashleymalamute]

QF9 starts in Melbourne, so you can board the flight in Melbourne and it's only a 3 hour transit in Perth. Qantas also connects it's other flights from the main capitals to dovetail with the Perth departure. The same is true coming home on Qf10

[@Bra1nSicK]

I was thinking the same. Why would Australians choose to do one layover with 4hr and 18hr flight and just not do the layover in Doha or Dubai and make the two flights almost even 10-11hr flights

[@alexo.1388]

@eraserhead Exactly. Connecting flights to Sydney are inefficient. It's almost as if these people think they're the center of the world.

[@ReineDz]

I really appreciate the work done on this video !

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

I was once airborne for 16 hours and I will never do it again. Just having a stop over to get off the plane is worth the 2 or 3 hours of time. I stayed up all night the previous night and got on the plane dead tired. I also took an Ambien. I woke up 10 hours later in such a funk I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone. And I still had 6 hours to go! lol

[@simsgamefan123]

I felt this flying from SFO to SIN on United. After 10 hours there was still 6.... 🙄

[@509734]

Australia: dangerous as hell wildlife and takes 21 hours to go anywhere else

[@turbotroll8605]

Yep, kangaroos in the back yard and crocodiles in the streets. But the real killer in Oz is drop-bears

[@afc9447]

Nothing more dangerous than Humans.

[@Brick-Life]

not really i fly China Southern melbourne to Guangzhou every year and its only 9.30 hours

[@jrcolmena]

I won't take a 20 hour flight unless the plane is a Toyota Corolla!

[@thaibinh1909]

drdanger you might want to think again, sedans don’t have any space to walk, imagine 20h sitting.

[@joshnival8529]

Wrong channel bro

[@jackbauer5386]

Every airplanes video on this channel conveniently avoid the environmental issues.

[@l30S3UX]

@@jackbauer5386 Sure, let's stop people from travelling

[@jackbauer5386]

@@l30S3UX We don't have to stop people from travelling. We can just wait for this planet to become too fucked up for humans to live on. But at least we got to to do London to Australia in 20 hours, worth it.

[@coscorrodrift]

yo, your videos are always dope like this but i just wanna mention how cool the graphics are, with the foot notes, the lines, the rotating globe... I don't know if it's difficult to do or if it's just two clicks but it looks amazing. And the transition with the 3 noses of budget airlines planes was really cool.

[@gingeraroundtheworld9079]

Super informative video! And what a voice over, not a single blink. Interesting to know some behind the scene things about fuel consumption and load factors on these routes.

[@dcoulter2685]

You’ve heard of Sydney to London now get ready for... Auckland to London!

[@BudderSticks]

A& W They should fly it with a 172

[@st3llarmemer111]

Oh and also Perth to Toronto

[@r.a.6459]

*I expected this*

[@r.a.6459]

An A350 or a B787

[@WayToManyAssassins]

that's a long way😂

[@davidliu2243]

The moment he said " It uses fuel to carry fuel" *Mind blown*

[@door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978]

Neil Armstrong: Hold my beer.

[@lightdragon5821]

20-hour long flight in an economy seat sounds like torture, why would anyone pay for THAT flight. Rather take a break in between two countries for day 1-2

[@ZK-APA]

Levi Dragon because for some people time or cost is priority. So even if it’s hectic, people will still choose that.

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

The evidence is that lots do...

[@python9657]

i have already travelled in 16 hour flights with 1 layover, i wouldnt mind 20 hour flights at all if it is direct, in fact it would be a lot better since all that time will be saved

[@cederveltman]

You see a wendover's production video, you click on a wendover's production video

[@CrownVic977]

Ceder Veltman you are a simple man I see :)

[@tereless]

Who cares what you do?

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

*Wonderful for travel, if we can afford.* Would be fun, if the budget flights would include a 1 day stop-over with a nice bed, instead of flying for 16-30 hours without sleep. Some very smart Chinese airlines do that for very long flights with a stopover in China. Let's see if the others will do it too.

[@ashleymalamute]

The midway point on the great circle between Sydney and London is Chongqing. There's no reason why they couldn't have a few hundred cheap rooms or sleeping pods to allow the cattle to rest between the two 10 or so hour flights.

[@jamessteerforth6027]

@@ashleymalamute Why not spend an extra $100 if they offer you a couple of meals and a tour on a one night stopover? I often wish I could spend a day or so in the countries I pass through. A night in Beijing, the Great Wall and Forbidden City would be a great 24 hour stopover.

[@mimi-hu4yc]

yeah they do, but I've just "done that", but checked out 5min later, because I'd rather sleep at the airport than that hotel with only chinese speaking staff and absolutely no plan when they would shuttle you back to the airport or if there's be even one at the time you need. Wasted 3h of my Shanghai overlay, never again.

[@sampai64]

That would be nice 😊

[@VineFynn]

Doesn't sound like a budget flight.

[@AlexS0700]

I find it amazing that these engines can function non stop for 20 hours without failure

[@kickbiker7920]

A very engrossing clip. Worth a sub on this alone. Thank you for posting!

[@franug]

We’re super happy about this development here in Chile. It will always take us forever to get anywhere, so being able to go to Dubai or London in one flight instead of two or three as it used to be is GREAT. I hope we get similar flights to other Asian hubs soon (Narita or HK!). I’ve been flying 12+ hours flights since a teenager so going up to 20 is not much

[@markgriz]

124 flat earthers were triggered by this video

[@KD-ns1hn]

Hahaha..well said! All the tree hugging flat earth no growth marxists were leaving their comments above.

[@marcozolo3536]

Nope, flat earth says nothing about the North pole since its at the center of the map, it's the south pole that's a problem

[@victorang928]

Correction:339 lol are triggered

[@schumi246]

The problem with flying over the south pole, is the lack of diversion airports. Twin engine planes can only fly so far from a diversion airport. I believe the longest ETOPS rating is 370 minutes (6h10m) on the A350 ULR. So, to fly over the South Pole, you’d most likely be on an A380, maybe an A340. Not sure about the range of a 747, because the only real routes, would be from Perth-Santiago/São Paulo/Rio. All at least 8000 miles long.

[@jshepard152]

They don't watch reality-based videos.

[@timclarke105]

First class information delivered in an articulate and interesting narrative that is easy to comprehend.

[@jaydenstrickland9162]

Well put together video. Was very impressed by the research put forth into this video.

[@postnick]

The thought of 20 hours on an airplane makes me ill.

[@victorang928]

Get on first class and u will change ur mind

[@overbeb]

I did a 16 hour flight once. Yeah it kind of sucked, but I managed to sleep for about 7-8 hours, watched a few movies, had a couple meals, and got up to walk around every once in a while. Overall, not too bad considering that after that time I was basically on the other side of the world.

[@IwanRahabok]

It's bad for back health. How I wish the Premium Economy reclines a bit more.

[@bryanwhite3021]

First class to paris and dubia(my longest trips), the seat reclines to a bed and it is a private cabin that can block all light or prop up on a pillow to watch movies Instagram @vita_overdrive

[@MrDavidh4]

It takes about the same amount of time as driving a car across Texas.

[@IHATESOOMUCH]

2:25 The Newark to Singapore flight is actually served six times per week not daily.

[@KasabianFan44]

So basically daily except Sundays lol

[@ShakespeareCafe]

As John Denver sang in Starwood in Aspen: "It's a long time to hang in the sky" and not an insignificant dose of radiation