Were LeBron James’ Playoff Opponents In The East Really That Weak?

[@Positive_energy4u]

I remember last yr when Everyone was claiming the Raptors, Celtics and Philly were all better than the Cavs and even said they would lose in the first round. Fast forward a couple months later, when Lebron gets to the finals, the narrative switches to "The east is weak" fuck outta here

[@roverjohnson6854]

Draymond ain't no reason ya'll lost 😂😂.

[@yunopepper76]

@@roverjohnson6854 Weak ass east

[@ScottRachelson777]

Yep. They love to change the narrative. Notice how they never think critically or offer good arguments for their claims?

[@ivblizzard3616]

this is happening for 22 years now

[@mrpetty1308]

Send this video to Nick Wright, since he's all about stats

[@bobbyd6097]

LOL Nick's only interested in stats to suit his view. He cherry picks stats.

[@354allday]

Shannon also, shits on Jordan's early playoffs fails but LeBron didn't make the playoffs until his 4th yr

[@jhyquaviousshavers8302]

@@354allday 3rd

[@brycencesar6273]

You prolly dont give a shit but if you're bored like me during the covid times you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my girlfriend for the last months =)

[@ashtonmalakai8674]

@Brycen Cesar definitely, been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)

[@DaJuiceisLoose11]

Dog Lebron played teams like da 37 win Bucks and the fuckin Bobcats😭😭😭😭

[@chriso682]

Yung JuiceBox 🤣🤣🤣

[@atom0824]

😂😂

[@RanMaru144]

There’s always 8 seeds bruh but the top teams were good

[@SkunkFarmer420]

So it’s LeBrons fault the eastern conference front offices are more concerned about lining their own pockets rather than build good contending teams?

[@husseinalsalami2148]

If LeBron played his entire career in the west, he would’ve been lucky to make the playoffs. The West was stacked, your team had to have 50 wins to make it to the playoffs. Imagine LeBron’s 2007 Cav’s in the Western Conference.

[@christophergooding9820]

You’re just wrong: there was one time when LeBron’s team had fewer wins than the West’s lowest seeded playoff team from 2007-2018: in 2008. Besides that, he would’ve made the playoffs. Also it was more like a 45 win minimum to make the playoffs in the west, not 50. It’s reasonable to say that LeBron wouldn’t have made as many finals appearances but saying he would be lucky to make the playoffs is just false.

[@jackjax7921]

LeBron won in 2020 the fuck are talking about?

[@melvynsngltn27]

Not true

[@husseinalsalami2148]

@@melvynsngltn27 I’m referring to his first run in Cleveland.

[@RanMaru144]

@@husseinalsalami2148ur still wrong he would have a better team in the west

[@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22]

So you're basically saying lebron didn't face any competition, and lost when he did You're correct sir 3-6

[@lawrencemcdonald9212]

LebronBlew5Finals#NotTop5 #Needs2AllStarsToWin 😂😂😂😂 facts

[@whoneeditigotit7359]

LebronBlew5Finals#NotTop5 #Needs2AllStarsToWin You dumb, he beat the greatest teams of all time

[@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22]

Troll Gawd LMFAO WHO!?!?!?!?!?

[@whoneeditigotit7359]

LebronBlew5Finals#NotTop5 #Needs2AllStarsToWin Warriors, Spurs, Thunder, warriors had 73-9 record, spurs had a dynasty, and Thunder had 3 future MVP’s Stupid

[@billrussel9973]

Most off those wins are not from Kobe alone. LA is O'neal's team in the early 2000.

[@makis7383]

They were good but they weren't like the Celtics, Pistons, Bucks, Hawks, Pacers, Knicks, Magic in Jordan's era

[@MrWadeSnow]

@Aaron Robles Your acting like LeBron played the Durant-Warriors every single year, you're forgetting LeBron had to create superteams of his own win a few rings.

[@MrWadeSnow]

@Aaron Robles You really said the East was weak last year in 2019. Are you dumb? Bucks, 76ers and Raptors were all *legit* cotenders. During LeBron's late East tenur what was the best east team outside the Cavs? The Derozan Raptors? Lol.

[@Hoodrowwilson...]

Forgot the Heat

[@bosyo3761]

Aaron Robles and how many HOF did lebron had in his team...dwade,bosh,irving,ray allen,K love...

[@bosyo3761]

Aaron Robles rodman 2x all star,Pippen 7x all star vs wade 13x all star,Bosh 11x all star...who's better player...

[@trigun442]

Great video. I like how you compared each year Lebron had an easy/tough time on his Eastern conference run. Can you make a video comparing Jordan's eastern conference run and how easy/tough the east was back then?

[@bryanmartinez6643]

You know that if lebron and cavaliers we're in the west lebron wouldn't never made to no 8straight finals kid

[@HenAnt]

Let me answer your question. 91 to 93 East had lower win rates but the lower end of that conference has a higher number of wins than the west. The West was very top heavy compared to the East around this time. In 96 to 98 the East was heavily competitive while the West was incredibly top heavy still, in 98 3 teams in the west had 60 win teams while 6 teams had less than 30 wins, 4 less than 20. The east only had 1 60 win seed (you know who it is) but only one team is below 20 wins, both conferences had 5 teams that had 50 wins. The 97 Season was also the 2nd most difficult Finals road with Jordan facing 50 win teams from the semi finals to the same Utah Jazz that went who was and also went 60 wins the next year. Suffice to say, Jordan had a significantly tougher East.

[@RobertJohnson-nz3xm]

It really doesn't matter. After LeBron retires we will still be looking for someone who could pass Michael Jordan as GOAT. LeBron will just be another name that challenged MJ for the title. LeBron fans will have a hard time accepting this but its just the way things are.

[@Tayjohnson2103]

Bron passed mj.

[@isorc5804]

Bron passed mj a while ago keep up bro

[@HenAnt]

​@@Tayjohnson2103in your heads yeah he passed him, reality paints a even grimmer picture for James lmao

[@HenAnt]

​@@isorc5804 he broke the all Time record for Turn Overs and is on pace to be the player with most missed Field Goals. Real goat for sure

[@HenAnt]

​@Awoken777 This video pretty much proven how weak Jane's comepetion was lmao.

[@bobbyd6097]

Yes it's very obvious he's had an easier pathway to his finals. Nobody should deny his greatness but the Eastern competition needs to be a factor when people debate his place within all time greats.

[@ImTitan16]

Yeah. This is why i hate when people talk about how lebron faced hard finals competition, when he also has weak conference competition

[@theroseexperience]

WIthout question yes, the East has been historically bad during his run.

[@chrismartinez-zg3hm]

Well now the east looks stronger than the “mighty west” 😂😂🙏🏻

[@zeffdasavage7515]

His team was historically bad during his run, not just his opponent so same level, only difference is LeBron Jaaameess. In this video he said Lebron won cause the opponents player gets injured or underperformed yet push them to game 6-7 or somethin. That clearly means that that team clearly was good even without their best players. Thats why lebron averaged 30ppg almost every playoff series. Big difference.

[@theroseexperience]

@@zeffdasavage7515 His teams were not historically bad at all and often finished at the top or near the top of the conference. One look as his scoring support shows this is false and while he went on to play with super teams afterward, too much is made out of how bad they were outside of 2017. Lebron had tremendous scoring support compared to someone like Jordan, you can look at the stats to confirm this.

[@zeffdasavage7515]

@@theroseexperiencei dont wanna argue with a guy like you who clearly has Skiiiuup mentality whos clearly an anti lebron and a jordansexual and old head bball, has no common sense and just spit bs without knowing everything. A type of guy that would bring up MJ when lebron achieves something to discredit him and brings up his failures. Woship mj and the old era.

[@zeffdasavage7515]

@@theroseexperience if that nets team that formed a superteam with the best scorers in modern nba in KD, Harden, and irving dont make it out the east this playoffs in 2021 in their forst season as a superteam then shut the fuck up and the east is weak debate should he over no excuses. Have a great day

[@JustAMessanger-o7g]

Why is it so hard to hear that the east lebron played in was weak? It isn’t hate it is fact. I have no problem saying Jordan’s finals opponents weren’t as strong as lebrons overall but Jordan’s road thru the east was way tougher. Combine the fact that lebron east was weak and that he had the best stacked teams (2 top players on both teams) and you see how he made the finals so many times. Playoffs include the first three rounds before the finals as well as the actual finals opponent. Overall Jordan had harder roads to his titles

[@bryanmartinez6643]

I agree with you

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

And yet Jordan's finals opponents was you m.oron

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

So sick of you i.diots always excusing Lebron's finals shortcomings

[@JetEngine85]

LeBron is what 6'8 260lbs?.. that size plus the complete removal of hand checking, driving to the basket is like a walk in the park.. he is big plus he also flops,it's hard to stop that kind of player.. Jordan on the other hand made basketball look easy even when hand checking and hard fouls were still around.. that's their difference

[@spursnation4life985]

U take jordan and put him on the same team lebron has been on this season and last season and before that jordan would've gotton swept. People forget that jordan had 1 on the best sfs in history in Pippen,1 of the best defenders in history in Dennis Rodman, 1 of the best coaches in history and lastly 1 one of the best point guards in history in fucking Steve. To me thats wat u call cake walk in terms of them getting to the finals and winning it. Shit they was more like a more athlectic, defence Golden state. And u say jordan made it look easy well of course when you have no comp at that position shit at least lebron breaking records and has had comp at his position every time going to the finals. Lastly im not even a lebron fan shit I fucking hate him but you old heads litterally disrespect wat this generation has to offer and wat makes it worse is that u try to compare these players and wat this and that player would have done better when yal truly dont know shit or how they would've done in today's game of basket ball and yal do this alot wit jordan and lebron

[@JetEngine85]

@@spursnation4life985 naaah..that's just a stupid analysis of a homosexual LeBron fanboy 😂

[@JetEngine85]

@@spursnation4life985 funny how you never mentioned LeBron always plays with multiple all stars yet still managed to loose 5x in a league without hand checking 🤔 do you understand what hand checking is?🤔 Are you stupid?yes you you are stupid😎

[@JetEngine85]

@@spursnation4life985 LeBron's gay idiotic stupid fanboys like you always disrespecting other legends of the NBA..always comparing LeBron to Jordan.,even saying LeBron is better than Kobe or Larry Bird.. Jordan and bird and Kobe had killer instinct.,they never gave up their respective teams especially on crucial moments... LeBron is mentally weak..

[@zonx5096]

@@JetEngine85 Can you imagine how mentaly tough you have to be to come back from 3:1 in finals agains best team ever?I dont agree Jordan would get swept if he was in Lebrons teams,but he surely wouldnt get to finals every year...He isnt that great of a playmaker like Lebron is and he couldnt really outscore entire other team...Just take a look how long it took Kevin Love to get a hot hand in every game...Like 2 quarters of every game he was useless...So much for an all star...How long was Kyrie injured?So much for an all star...I respect every legend of the NBA no matter what time he played on no matter what comparison people make...

[@word-is-bondboxing890]

Excellent analysis Wison. Love the breakdown. As a 37 year old who remebers Jordan's prime, i couldn't agree with you more.

[@jackbaldridge9096]

Lebron played teams that never had a chance to beat him

[@glovs4188]

He has 3 rings. 1 vs baby okc, 2 is allen hitting the most clutch shot ever. 3 warriors have to be suspended, injured and barnes getting payed to miss everything. It still came down to kyrie hitting a clutch 3.

[@whoneeditigotit7359]

BlaK laG You dumb

[@bigwoke686]

Yup

[@jayvionwilliams4061]

glov allsilence Bron had 16 points in that 4th Quarter and Lebrons block on Igoudala was clutch and Lebron hit ah three before Kyries shot to keep the game close. U call it baby okc but they made it through the “tough west”.

[@jayvionwilliams4061]

glov allsilence Also Draymond was there for game 6 and 7. Why didnt the warriors just seal the deal?🤣

[@julianrojas4792]

Let's just face it. Lebron has lost even with a stacked team. He doesn't make his teammates better, he makes them worse cuz he needs the ball all the time.

[@jayvionwilliams4061]

bojo perez true? So KLove getting injured and constantly underperforming bc hes ah choke artist is Brons fault? KLove was also ah third option so obviously his role was going to be lessened. Tell me when Kyrie or Kevin Love made the playoffs without Bron.

[@julianrojas4792]

@@jayvionwilliams4061 kevin love was a beast before lebron hindered him, the same with bosh. Nobody can play with lebron becuase hes more interested in individually stats. Like that's going to make him better than jordan.

[@julianrojas4792]

@bojo perez that's what I said. No need to call names when u misread what I fucking wrote.

[@jayvionwilliams4061]

bojo perez Kyrie didnt make the playoffs once without bron. He didnt even make the finals without bron. So much for a superteam.

[@julianrojas4792]

@bojo perez lol sorry and shit haha

[@viveksingh1341]

Twice you said his teams were no match and he lost both in 7 Wtf ?

[@quann06]

Boston in 2012 were old and weren’t the same team from 08-10.

[@ScottRachelson777]

James Worthy and Byron Scott were both Injured. Kevin Love and Irving were both injured. Should I speculate about what could have been? What if Jordan never acquired Pippen or Kerr and Paxson never hit buzzer-beating shots for the win?

[@dgames8900]

Lebron cake walked it with superteams from 2011 till today. Before that, he regularly choked against good teams.

[@TheAwesomeninjaBrian]

DGames how is it his fault the east is weak, tell the eastern teams to get better, and every team in the east before lebron left was pretty much equal, except for the pistons and celtics and the pistons should’ve beat the cavs, they had the same team just without ben wallace the cavs had a lebron, scrubs and a bad coach

[@dgames8900]

@@TheAwesomeninjaBrian so whats your point? It sounded like you agreed and disagreed.

[@mcbuckets813]

People hold it against him that he played in a week conference. Then hold his 3-6 record against him lol it’s one or the other. Most of those finals losses he shouldn’t have been in the finals to begin with.

[@dgames8900]

@@mcbuckets813 what are you saying?? You must only watch Lebron. He made it to the Finals because of the conference hes played in his entire career. He shouldnt have been in the Finals the 4 years he was in Miami when he had an MVP candidate DWade and top 5 big man of the time Bosh, and a great bench?? He shouldnt have been in the Finals these past 4 years in Cleveland when he had Love and Kyrie, and a great bench?? This past year he made it to the Finals because Kyrie and Hayward were injured for the Celtics. What other teams in the eastern conference of the past 8 years were actual good playoff teams or legitimate title contenders? None.

[@savycalo6212]

DGames 2012 Bulls , Celtics 2012 Celtics 2013 Pacers Thats only a few teams but they were still contenders nonetheless. They If Drose was Healthy in the playoffs easy contenders.The celtics were a good team who to The Big 3 Heat to game 7 and the Pacers werw good 2013 as well. I agree lebron had little comp the last 10 years but don't discredit these teams either.

[@dexterrr9163]

don't disrespect 2018's Celtics even tho they hadn't Kyrie and Hayward they put so much pressure on weak ass cavs

[@badoodles]

Let's not forget LeBron made USA basketball weak in Olympics getting blown out by Puerto Rico which is the worst defeat of US basketball in Olympics😂😂😂

[@johnthomas1353]

LeBron wouldn't went to the finals as much if he was in the west

[@offwhitejayR2E]

John Thomas I still he would have made it at least 5 times.

[@johnthomas1353]

offwhite jay ok what team would he play on?

[@fancyhoops1132]

It defends on what team he landed. What if he is on the warriors ofcourse it will be easier. So dont say that he will not gonna make it. It will defends on what team he played for.

[@SlickGriminals]

Yea what if he ended up on the spurs or gsw. He could have more rings

[@savage_gaming1465]

Well he's in the West now just watch

[@Smiley869]

While Kobe was playing against the best teams in the West from the first round to the finals, lebron was playing against the bucks and the bobcats lol

[@Tayjohnson2103]

And the Pistons and the Celtics. Foh

[@melvynsngltn27]

Kobe who couldn't get out of the first round

[@calvin1559]

His finals record takes down the value of winning the east for Lebron because it shows that clearly the west is better.

[@semionjohnson1351]

Nah the 2018 rockets would have destroyed LeBron’s Cavs if they made the finals that year

[@strangerthanparadise]

Pacers with Roy Hibbert pushing Bron to 7 games 😂😂 MJ would’ve eat Luc Longley for breakfast

[@treone3169]

Roy didn't do anything, and where is he now... ok.

[@strangerthanparadise]

Tre One lmaooo u just proved my point. He was a fluke and the league desperately needed some sort of nemesis for LeBron and his newly formed super team. “He didn’t do anything” This was LeBron’s competition but pushed them to 7 games. Roy freaking Hibbert was hyped up comparisons to Ewing but the bum bounced outta the league not long after. MJ would’ve contort his body got difficult shots around Hibbert. Who got known for raising his hands up and disrupting drives. And don’t act like Detroit had Ben Wallace and Rasheed, Chauncey wasn’t in their primes anymore. Or the banged up Bulls who had the youngest MVP in Rose whom never again reached that level even before they managed to play the first year Heat was formed. Following year Rose injuries piled up again and Heat added Ray Allen

[@treone3169]

All of those were goood teams, key word is team. MJ opponents was not all that either when he finally started winning finals,,research more. All I'm saying no one can compare to you when you end up with more points than Kareem. So when someone talks down on LeBron performance on the court, then that shows how dumb people are. So, if I have more points than everybody that played the game. What does that make me. I'll wait.

[@strangerthanparadise]

Tre One yes yes, but you do realize that will take him at least 20 seasons right. So don’t jinx it alright, like the not one not two not three. But six finals losses. Then again look at the comments on this video. No one would argue that LeBron had significantly weaker competition in his route to the Finals. Jordan accomplished much more in less seasons. LeBron ain’t even better defensively even given his stature. It’s the effort, timing, willingness to do so. These kinda traits you won’t find on the stat line but directly lead to wins. Even AI gave Sixers one game against the that three peat Lakers. Not to say AI is LeBron if you’re saying Lakers ain’t GSW either. At least u can blame it on Love. Trolls like you don’t even know how his 40k points mean. It matters when the points are scored like against Bobcats and Bucks in the mid 00’s padding in even late in the 4th quarter. Btw MJ still has the highest playoff and 2nd all time in Finals ppg. So don’t act like totals are everything. people rave so great about his percentages at the same time he was built on such a way he was always gonna be a force inside. Look at his FG% outside of the restricted area and his FT% looks like research ain’t gonna help you if you don’t understand basic impact of his points. And his assists can be discussed for another topic for that matter. It’s “team” but win LeBron losses it’s that he didn’t have enough help. If Dirk could lead comebacks and even the title against former Heat team for Dallas was way over their level of competition. LeBron with his 40k pts “to be” would’ve very least win one game. Especially the 51pt OT game when JR blundered. Didn’t he straight quit in overtime. I find determined Bronsexuals very entertaining. All I hear are Stats stats and stats. I don’t deny his greatness, but just don’t put him above Jordan. His body and longevity puts LeBron at a great advantage to begin with and playing in a very spaced out era where so many outside shots are made. Pace much faster, more possessions therefore more stats. Less elite bigs that defend the rim.

[@treone3169]

Magic lose 4 and got swept twice. What is you point. I will say it again for the slow people in my country. Championships means team only. Basketball is not tennis. Do not talk about Dirk garbage ass, he needed a superteam to beat Miami, he had three PGs, Shawn Marion, and Tyson, and Page, and garbage Bosh could not hold handlebars.Please. All the finals LBJ lose to had better teams. He is not King James for nothing. Also he will be the first to play against his son in the nba.

[@drewmalihan4697]

You cannot compare LeBron to MJ. MJ never lost in the finals with tough opponents. LeBron cannot surpass what Kobe had accomplished. MJ is the greatest. End of discussion.

[@radel096]

all team accomplishments, and u aint the one that can say end of discussion lmao

[@goatman380]

The Truth that a a lie watch his Jordan finals opponents.

[@celglizzy5444]

@The Truth Do you know how good the Eastern Conference was back in the day? You have to get through 3 teams to get to the NBA Finals. It wasn't easy. Also 6-0 > 3-6 isnt even.

[@brantdiabo229]

But, Lebron never lost in the FIRST ROUND like MJ did?

[@celglizzy5444]

@@brantdiabo229 Because MJ faced more competition in the east back then. When Lebron came to the league, the east was weaker.

[@willclements4025]

He was always on the best team w 2 other all stars when got to finals and in east

[@JJClarkNice]

Um, 2007 and 2018, but ok

[@LOL-ro9ef]

@@JJClarkNice 2007 he played against bum teams. he beat two 0.500 teams. the Nets and the Wizards with no Gilbert Arenas or Caron Butler, and the Pistons with no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace protecting the paint and no HoF coach Larry Brown. lebron went against by far the weakest playoff comp in nba history in most of his runs

[@bobbyd6097]

When his team beat the Pistons they were without Wallace and literally half the team. The East has been the weaker conference his entire career. Some years it's been very clearly the weaker conference (like not even close to the West). As soon as he faces a real team smoked in 4, 5 or 6 games. And yes his Cavs (when Kyrie was almost as good as he was that series) beat the 73 win GSW, but let's be real that was a very arguable series win for a number of reasons.

[@RKO859]

To be very honest, LeBron had ONE legit championship. 2013 we all know what happened. Lucky offensive rebound bounce and the kick out to Ray Allen, plus the Spurs choked a couple critical free throws. 2016 was Draymond suspension and bogut/Iggy injury. Only legit true win was vs the Thunder in 2012. However, win is a win. He Still got 3 chips. But with a couple asterisks. Look at what MJ did. Refuse to lose.

[@Wickery.]

Jack Liu to be very honest, steph and kd have ZERO legit rings

[@Chris-wn2uo]

Timothy Jenkins 2015 is their only ring.

[@RKO859]

@@elijahjacob872 everything said is all facts. You mad, clown?

[@unranked_k7926]

Jack Liu so by ur logic Kevin Durant still doesn’t have a ring🤷🏾‍♂️

[@unranked_k7926]

Didn’t read ur comment fully. LeBron led the comeback against the spurs Ray Allen just happened to hit the big shot. LeBron led the comeback against the warriors as well however yes if Draymond was there in game 5 warriors would’ve won. And yes you can refuse to lose however there are times where a loss is unavoidable just like most of Lebron’s finals losses.

[@GgGg-qd8lp]

3:00 Allen iverson was to old to make a difference

[@tajallen5415]

7:24 stop with that BULLSHIT!!! All the teams the warriors played had an injured PG Hell thats been the warriors luck the last four years don’t believe what happened in Houston??🤔🤔

[@bilzkhan3029]

Taj Allen warriors were still going to the finals tho

[@devdagoat2574]

bilz khan they were down 3-2 when chris paul got injured...

[@hiramhankins4174]

Seems like an excuse riddled video to me. You downplay 53 win teams but in previous videos you big up 50 win teams. Sad af

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Shutup

[@michaeljosephluy5401]

This video proves LeBron was so UNDERRATED. Media only see who's beside LeBron. Big names like WADE, BOSH, IRVING AND LOVE. Media keep saying he only won because of WADE and BOSH. The reality is LeBron carried those big names in his shoulders and he can do that in any teams in the east that time. I want to clear it by my OWN EXPLANATION and it will start since he joins MIAMI in 2010-2011 season to end of 2014 season before he came back to the cavs. Switch/trade the best player in any team in the east that time with LeBron. Example number 1: LeBron to the celtics for Pierce. How many championship would the celtics won if these two players switch? They don't win one with Pierce but I think with LeBron they will win atleast two in four years. 2. LeBron to the pacers for Granger. Remember in 2010 Granger is the Indianas best player. Also the pacers did not win one but can you imagine LeBron replacing Granger at small forward position with a core of prime and up coming Hibbert at 5, West at 4, a young George at 2 And Hill at 1!!! OH MY GOODNESS!!! I think they will win championships more than LeBron on the Celtics. In other words they will win 3 out of 4 or four straight. 3. LeBron to the Bulls for Rose. Chicago also did not win one with rose. Listen to this. A prime NOAH at 5, BOOZER at 4, and I will put KORVER over BOGANS at 2 then I will put HINRICH at 1 as a replacement for ROSE. Ofcourse LeBron at the 3 with prime Loul Deng as my sixth man🥵🥵🥵 I think bulls will win atleast 2 the same as the celtics. I think my explanation right here is enough for you guys to stop disrespecting LeBron James. That dude is so special and I am sure that you will appreciate his GREATNESS when he retired in the game of basketball. In my opinion we will never see another player like him. And in my sight LeBron James is the GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME (PERIOD) #RespectToTheGOAT

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Yawwwwn

[@MistahUnknown]

I didn't watch the video yet but... If the East was really that weak then explain why teams have taken LeBron's teams to so many Game 7's & Game 6's in the playoffs? A LeBron-led team probably has more Game 7 series than 4 game series sweeps.

[@lordslumpgodgambunta6181]

It’s almost like lebrons team under perform and he’s not a good leader

[@algladyou]

That's the point. So regardless where he goes. Since they were weak. He'll go to finals because he's a plus to the team. Though some are due to injury.

[@bryanmartinez6643]

Look what happened when lebron left the east and when to the Lakers he didn't make the finals no more😂😅🤣

[@MistahUnknown]

@@bryanmartinez6643 He's only completed 1 season as a Laker. He was injured in that 1 season. He will be a Lakers for several more seasons. Stay put

[@jaydenvert9168]

@@bryanmartinez6643 What was that about the Lakers not making the finals?

[@hoopdazedfe8541]

Great video I had forgot Ben Wallace wasn't on that 2007 pistons team

[@jahleelx9270]

But he was on the 2006 team.

[@hoopdazedfe8541]

The team that lost to shaq and dwade?

[@jahleelx9270]

@@hoopdazedfe8541 I'm not sure what relevance that has to what u just said? Ben wallace was on the 06 team. So saying he wasn't on the 07 team is irrelevant.

[@hoopdazedfe8541]

In 2006 they pistons beat the cavs in 2007 they lost to the cavs

[@jahleelx9270]

@@hoopdazedfe8541 saying he wasn't on the team is irrelevant. Went 7 games in 2006. Went 6 in 2007. Doesnt matter whether ben wallace was there or not. Saying he beat the pistons because ben wallace wasn't on the team is just an assumption.

[@bvn4680]

What 2018 boston was really good, could easily beat utah, okc and portland

[@condog209]

plus boston didnt have hayward and kyrie

[@jauharilee7496]

Tatum is better than Hayward

[@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy]

Without Hayward and kyrie they getting swept by okc and utah.. blazers in 5

[@solomongrundy1616]

We all know if Kyrie and Hayward played that series it would've been done in 5 no more than 6 games.

[@CREOLEHEAT]

They were not beating Utah or OKC & they would have been lucky to get by the Blazers. The Bucks took them to 7 & they would've went at least to 6 had the 76ers not blown a 20+ point lead & blew the end of Game 3.

[@nevillelindo2528]

Even 2 of LeBron's 3 championships feel like they weren't legit... A lucky Ray Allen 3pt and a series of injuries and suspension gave him 2 chips... Real Rammy if u ask me

[@cometa_sin]

Good vid bro keep the good work

[@WilsonSy]

Thanks my man

[@Coolruiz19]

Also Dwight Howard missed the playoffs 2012

[@Gmacshow]

Plus if you look at lebron first 5 years in the league the east was pretty weak twice 45 wins got you a top 4 seed in the east and à 50 win season got you a number 2 seed. Nothing is every happened in the eastern conference when jordan played from 1985-1998 fact. Plus the year lebron won his first title was during a lockout season when half the playoff teams were hurt that year.

[@Xzei]

Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason: Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%) Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%) LeBron James: 12/23 (52%) Average Wins of Finals Opponent Jordan: 61 LeBron: 61 (63 without the '12 Thunder, 46 wins #1 offense... Harden/KD/Westbrook) Kobe: 56 Times Facing Top 5 Offense and Defense (Finals) Jordan: 1 LeBron: 3 Kobe: 0 Times Facing Top 3 Offense and Defense (Finals) Jordan: 0 LeBron: 1 (73-win Warriors had #1 offense, #5 defense IIRC) Kobe: 0 But everyone is terribly, terribly obsessed with "50+win playoff teams" These Warriors would smash the best Bulls team , every Finals opponent Jordan faced, Kobe's Lakers, and everyone they faced in the Finals. The Spurs would beat any team Jordan faced in the Finals. Same for Kobe. Probably beat Kobe's Laker's 8/10 series, Bulls vs Spurs would be all-time great series (with Kawhi).

[@alivingwordwithpastorkello6661]

Xzei i thought this video was about "conference opponents".

[@chuckchuk5157]

Stretch it brother still cant reach the point you are making.

[@Wickery.]

Kellon Nixon his point is Lebron has faced far more superior final opponents

[@chuckchuk5157]

@@Wickery. remove gsw on this stat and lets see this shit of a list again.

[@alivingwordwithpastorkello6661]

Timothy the point of the video is showing Conference opponents, but LeBron hasn't faced tougher opponents.

[@WolfKing158]

How many times has LeBron beat a team in the finals that won a championship before? 2... How many times has Mike beat a team in the finals that won a championship before? 1 (Kareem & Coop retired) Same question for both in the conference finals... LeBron 2, Mike 1... Bron is clearly facing better teams and players...

[@alivingwordwithpastorkello6661]

King Carroll lol

[@franzjosefarnuco2191]

That’s only 3 teams you were talking about. Now tell me who faced more 50+ win teams?

[@WolfKing158]

@@franzjosefarnuco2191 Being that I don't know I'd assume MJ, but that's because it was less stars when MJ played which means teams with higher season records... Those higher records don't make the team some kind of juggernauts... PHX this year or last year is no different from SEA or UTAH back in the day is the point and we would not go crazy about beating this PHX team unless you a MIL fan especially if Bron beat them... MJ beats them we gotta hear about how many wins they had

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@WolfKing158 no. Troll

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@WolfKing158 idiotic troll

[@Honeydew360]

Yo my dude chill with the banter against my Hawks 😢

[@lucjanredulla]

Now when Lebron is in West. West Players started going to East.

[@marcamico5254]

I've said this and I'll say it again. If you NEVER watched MJ,your opinion's invalid,kiddo. Jordan was practically playing vs TWO dynasties in the 80s. Boston and Detroit. Lebron never had to face a dynasty on her to the finals.

[@gradeapedigree9635]

Marc Amico fam wtf do you call golden state...gotdamntf you niggas be watching. The nba has never had a squad this great foh

[@marcamico5254]

@@gradeapedigree9635 I'll take the '97 Heat,'89 Pistons,'96 Bulls over modern day Warriors.

[@Wickery.]

Marc Amico then you’re a dumbass

[@cameronsmith9314]

Timothy Jenkins on everything 😂😂😂😂

[@mikehsu5872]

Grade A Pedigree he said on the WAY to the finals. Not I'm the finals. Learn how to read

[@FirstPlace97]

LeBron choked in the playoffs until 2012, a lockout season

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

FP bron ain’t clutch

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 stfu

[@roverjohnson6854]

How old are you?

[@carterbilbro4615]

U serious?

[@tamellnewton5417]

How many hofs did lbj stop from getting a ring nobody how many hofs did mj stop from getting a ring alot it's not about rings right now mj is better than lbs the east was a cake walk but couldn't finish mj got to finals he finished

[@thegame5687]

he stopped westbrook and harden in 2012 xD

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

Jordan stopped NOBODY from getting a ring. Jordan without Pippen won exactly ZERO playoff series. In fact, he never even had a season above. 500.

[@Chris-wn2uo]

Emmanuel Enyinwa Pippen wasn't even starting when he came to the bulls.

[@chicityjay]

@@Chris-wn2uo right lol even with pippen as a bench player jordan was getting better while making his team better..lebron has to have 2 all stars and good role players injuries and luck just to win

[@NealBones]

@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 And LeBron takes Ls with any less than 2 all stars.

[@MrEmman12]

I think LeBron would be more successful if he didn’t try to do it all and instead got buckets with indomitable will that he’s shown before in the past. If he had the dominant mindset he had in that G6 against the Cs he would have more than 3 rings.

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

I’m so tired of this “these East finalists would have lost to all the west contenders” narrative Outside of 1 OKC year and Dallas twice, the West has been literally been a three team monopoly (Lakers/Spurs/Warriors) for 20 years. Those other West teams (Clippers, Jazz, etc) never won when it counted. The West was not a loaded conference. It was basically 3 teams carrying the load since 1999 with a few exceptions.

[@cenanation123456]

And the east was only lebrons teams, if you took out lebron from the nba in the 2010s, Those east would not have beaten the spurs and the warriors Demar Derozen and Pandemic P aren't better than KD tim duncan and kawhi

[@franzjosefarnuco2191]

In 2011-2018. Aside from lebron, only 3 players made it to the nba first team. Majority of great players in that span were from the west

[@legendarywiimaster]

This is my problem with these kinds of topics, bro LeBron doesn’t choose who he goes up against he just beats whoever is in front of him. He’ll be chilling in the west and let’s factor in how bad his own teams were for the first 7 years, and even the Heat in 2014 had significantly declined.

[@xtmac13x]

Your opinion doesn’t mean it’s a fact. You were going somewhere with team records but other than that you were saying a lot of hypotheticals. True Lebron wouldn’t go to 8 straight finals but to say the teams he played were weak or overrated is laughable. Don’t hand pick the stats show all of it. Offensive rating defensive rating. Win shares Lebron and teammates provided. Because it will show the supporting cast one has. I put money if you put Lebron on ANY western playoff team before 2017 with Durant and the warriors, they are getting to the finals. You put the worlds best player on any playoff team and they are getting to the finals

[@Benzene21]

You lebron stans act as if lebron never lost a series before warriors started winning titles. Give me a break.

[@xtmac13x]

Did I act that way? We all know about 2011. But other than that series I dont ever remember lebron losing a series with a great suppurting cast and that he was supposed to win as the favorite. 2011 against the mavs is the only series. You lebron haters aka lebron fans think just because he played in the east that, that somehow takes away all credibility of his greatness. There are so many great players that went from the east to the west and STILL dominate. NOTHING about the individual players greatness changed. Here's some all time greats as an ex: Kareem and Shaq.

[@flyguy3203]

@@xtmac13x teams were weak af .. get off brons nuts the vid is correct

[@xtmac13x]

I didn't say the teams lebron has beaten were world beaters. Do you even know how to read? How is the vid correct outside the posting of his opponents team records. This guy that posted the video is a youtuber everything else was an opinion. If he posted more numbers to go along with facts , I wouldnt have even said anything. Opinions are beliefs not facts. Its like if I pulled out the statistics of how many people believe in god in the world and said god is real based on that. No thats a belief. Now if the youtuber included team offensive rating, defensive rating, ast, reb, blocks, steals, off and on the court stats. Then his opinion backed by statistics wouldnt be so far fetched. Its like all the people saying if Kobe played in the east he would have eight rings. Thats a hypothetical because he never played in the east and two it would depend on what team you put him on. You put him on the hawks right now in his prime and they dont make the playoffs in my opinion.

[@Benzene21]

Miami had better players than SA in 2014. It’s only when they lost that lebron stans started making excuses. You cry about durant, but lebron with kyrie averaging 27 PPG needed 7 games to beat an injured warriors team that was already struggling before the Finals.

[@jarekkowalewski]

im very guilty of this...i find that a lot of arguments or hate against lebron is balance.......its that his fans are trying to tip the scales so much to make him the goat, that all the hate comes out......i was kind of meh about him until mj comparisons started way too prematurely..........the reason this even gets brought up, his competition in the east is because of his poor record in the finals........MJ finished off the best team in the west 6 out of 6 times, and 2 other times he lost to the best team in the league that if he beat would of won the chip, lost in 6 to a pistons team that swept finals, and lost in 7 to a pistons team that won in 5 in the finals...so no debate about mj's competion for either conference needs to be brought up...........so Lebron fans need to have some perspective the reason this even needs to be brought up is that you make his run to 8 str8 finals so godly because he has a losing record in those finals and you need to be shown that he has been in the inferior conference his whole career........through no fault of his own, but if you and your leader nick wright didnt make this accomplishment seem like the greatest in history this wouldnt even need to be brought up.....but you do and it has........... str8 facts

[@vodavoom]

16th year in the West... but it still won't be good enough because the narrative will change to tarnish his accomplishments when he run thru the West..... except for Warriors and OKC..... sorry but think ya'll gonna have a Problem Houston......

[@elijaharvinger1178]

gaming with dj there's a reason Houston had the best record in the league last year. Its not always about the roster its about team chemistry and being able to make adjustments on the fly. If LeBron insists on running the offense through him it'll be a second round playoff exit for the Lakers.

[@vodavoom]

Elijah arvinger you’re correct about If Lebron doesn’t let the system run and wants to do it all his way, that will be a problem... But if the Lakers win over 50 wins and making it 2 the 2nd round.. that’s a successful season TBH

[@elijaharvinger1178]

gaming with dj maybe they'll surprise everyone. 50 games isn't impossible and golden state worries me because they're injury prone. We'll see in February after the trade deadline.

[@savycalo6212]

OKC might still have problems if thet don't adjust the way the play. Since KD was in the team it was mainly Iso ball and it still is. In order to contend they have to change.Houston also needs to see what the perfect role for melo is. My bold prediction is that the Spurs are going to make more noise than Houston next year.Derozan has Pop coaching him now. Theres a chance he can bring the beast out of Derozan.

[@vodavoom]

Savy I can see Spurs over achieving also and I do think Houston going to struggle( struggle meaning like 50-55 wins) Why I like OKC because I think athletically , their defense is going to be their strength

[@PAAKWAMEPAA]

hmm, you have some good points, i would not compare teams directly however. For instance, Lebron beat the celtics in 2018 to win the eastern conference finals. Honestly, I think that celtics team, would have won a game vs the warriors. NBA matchups are not directly linear, you can't just say, because team A, beat team B, and since team B beat team C, then it's a foregone conclusion that team A would beat team C. It doesn't work that way. Sometimes matchups, and strategies work for one time, and not against the other. What I will say, is that the west is deeper than the East. So, the team that comes out of the West is more likely to be better equipped against a team in the East. For example, in the west, teams have better strategies, and play more offensively. Meanwhile, the East is more about defense, and individual mega stars. Like Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks, Lebron and the Heat, Derrick Rose and the Bulls, Paul pierce and the celtics. Meanwhile the west has good TEAMS. Spurs, Mavs, Warriors (before KD) , Clippers, Thunder, all of those are really solid teams.

[@WilsonSy]

Good point. Perhaps 2018 Celtics could have won 1 against GS. Everyone pretty much knew the winner of GS-Houston would be the champs. A lot of the West front offices have been better than East over last 2 decades. Enjoy the Last Dance!

[@ScottRachelson777]

Finally, someone with some reasoning ability!

[@apokolipslord6403]

No people like to say that so they can protect their favorite players. Ex: kobe and jordan

[@malcolmxavierjamesgumbs1993]

LeBron James lock down The Entire Eastern Conference for 8 Straight Years and Michael Jordan lock down The Entire League.

[@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22]

Did you listen to the video? He's saying lebron had a cake walk in the playoffs every season lmao

[@endangeredspecies8441]

Apokolips Lord bro the fucking facts are there. It's not about us it fucking happened ! Sick and tired of you Lebron fans.

[@dontgotnonamebih]

Brian Gore bro.....sorry to tell u the truth,but Kobe faced statistically “weak” teams,Jordan did and a lot of legends. But for one to say LeBron has had a cakewalk is false. Did u even watch the video?? Wtf bro

[@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne22]

Red Demon bro...sorry to tell you the truth, Kobe has faced more 50+ win teams in the playoffs than lebron with a better record Kobe 25-9 Lebron 14-12 Sorry kid 3-6

[@ORRante-qe8ue]

Yup it was easy for him because the east was the weaker conference. He wouldn't be going to the finals if he was on the west. There would be too much competition for him to handle.

[@Tayjohnson2103]

What competition??? The warriors is literally the only fuckin threat in the west foh

[@antwaunharris7830]

Yeah hes had a cake walk to the finals

[@Tayjohnson2103]

No tf he hasn't

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@Tayjohnson2103 has

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@@nonamewillbegiven8838 hasn’t.

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@Tayjohnson2103 has

[@c22to]

Nice video. Good analysis

[@princejames2761]

I'm a Lebron fan but I'm not gonna hate on the video because you had some legit points but look at it from my point of view Lebron played a weak east which got him to the finals easy where he played the real competition the west which were far superior to the weak east which would also make the superior to his team also because their in the east and Jordan played a tough east and had to fight his way to the playoffs where he played a easy west which was inferior to his team so who had it harder imagine if jordan was in the west probably he would have also had a cake walk then when he reached the finals he would have lost also and if Lebron was in the west he would have to fight but when he reached the finals he would probably sweep the weak east also atleast thats just my point of view

[@suntansuperman26]

The west in Jordan's era wasn't weak like how the east is to the west in today's era. When Jordan retired the Rockets won 2 rings and when Jordan retired again the west went on a strong championship run.

[@supratrd900]

Suntansuperman26, A lot of these Lebrontards think the West/East is weak because MJ dominated everyone. The West around Jordan time still had at least 3-6 teams that were 50+ wins teams. Not to mention the 98 Finals was a matchup between two aging teams with their best players past their primes. In 98 there were 3 60+ wins teams in the west including a young Lakers team that would eventually form the next dynasty. The West in the mid to late 90's is nothing like the East today. You still have Malone/Stockton who were playing lights out past their age, A Lakers team with a young Shaq/Kobe coming off the bench, A Rockets team that had Drexler and Hakeem, Suns with Barkley and KJ, The Spurs with D. Robinson, A young Duncan, A Sonics team that was a dominant defensive team. Sure MJ would have had a cakewalk in the West against these 50 + wins teams that were good defensively​. Lebrontard needs to accept that MJ is the GOAT. He would murder today's era. if an old 38 MJ could have average 20 ppg with the Wizards. Imagine a 27-year-old MJ in today's game. 45-50 PPG easily he could have a triple-double season too.

[@princejames2761]

suppatrd900 Well I didnt know that thanks for sharing im a bit young so I wasn't around in Jordan's era

[@myasswithacherryontop1902]

Prince James You're the greatest LeBron fan I've seen.

[@willyoung7083]

Prince James you are the most honest fan I've ever seen this shows the difference between a true fan and a groupie, you are a true fan bro.... Much respect...

[@MindMan424]

8:57 ... You put 2009-10 Magic ... You meant to put 2008-09 Magic

[@nikkocarter20]

lebron was never on a super team, he created a big 3 and thats it. The heat had 3 good players and everyone else was shitty at best so stop that super team shit. From 2015-2018 he beat 7+ 50 win teams in the east. What else did yall want him to do? yall keep saying that he wouldve lost in the west but you act like he wouldve came to a shitty team or sumn back then. if he wouldve joined any of the top 5 teams in the west the man wouldve still been in the finals so stop it....

[@chrisringer5778]

Nikko Carter U joking right 😂😂😂

[@nikkocarter20]

which part? enlighten me....

[@chrisringer5778]

“ Lebron Was never on a super team he created a big 3” a team that has more then 2 legit stars is known as a super team. Also the supporting cast was way better then u saying it was.

[@nikkocarter20]

so whats the difference between a big 3 and a super team... his supporting cast besides wade and bosh were trash and thats not really debatable... outside those 3 no other teammate was close to winning any awards or being all nba... if that miami team was a super team then the warriors are what?

[@chrisringer5778]

Nikko Carter Shitty ? Haslem, Chamlers, Shane Battier, Mike Miller and Ray Allen come to mind when u think trash supporting cast. Wtf u talking about 😂😂😂😂

[@yoshiinottherapper5492]

This nigga said Avery Bradley was Boston’s best player😂💀💀💀💀

[@lort9059]

People don't realize how deep the east was especially when Bron was with tha heat drose was an mvp with bultler Noah boozer Nate and Hamilton and tha Knicks with smith melo Felton shumpet and chandler and tha Celtics big 4 with Paul goerge pacers the east was stack

[@0neup1]

Keep telling yourself that those star didn't come close to the west.

[@0neup1]

That's why the west usually win the finals it's like the west are in a hypertime bollock chamber in the west and when they see they east team play they like why "your no where near the 2nd round or the finals in my conference."

[@BeingWokeTV]

Nah those "stars" are asscheek compared to the west

[@billbixby8698]

That doesn't make the East deep, you named three teams. Odds are the 6,7,8 spots in the East had losing records while the 8,9,10 spots in the West had winning records. Its been like that for 10-20 season now. Why do you think the NBA is seriously considering changing the way playoff teams are choosen? Because the East was weak, is weak, and until proven otherwise will stay weak.

[@josefrancisco4178]

You know, that time was precisely the last time Lebron faced another First ALL NBA member, Derrick Rose. Just tells you how WEAK the east has been since.

[@paulalbert6970]

MJ has an easier path to greatness that's why he is 6-0 in the Finals. Lebron has a hard path to greatness. He has more all stars faced. Durant, Curry, Thompson, Green, Leonard, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, Duncan, Parker, Horford, George, Harden, Howard, Nowitzki, Kidd, and Rose..

[@yaelgarcia459]

Easier? Jordan had to go against the stacked Celtics, Bucks, Pistons, Knicks, Magic, Pacers, and Heat teams to get through the playoffs. Lebron faced old ass east teams 🤣 Finals opponents? Maybe. I'll give you that. But in no way shape or from did Jordan have it easier to get to the finals than Lebron

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@yaelgarcia459 not finals opponents either so there is no maybe. Get outta here with that

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

Oh and Paul Albert is an i.diot

[@pzooka]

Lebron is literally the greatest player of all time

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@Dionis nah he said greatest layer of all time.

[@whop100000]

Jordan's relevant playoff career is actually fairly easy to analyze, in my opinion. Jordan never missed the playoffs with the Bulls, though he did miss them twice at the end of his career while playing for the Wizards - I'm ignoring his time with them. During Jordan's career with the Bulls the champion of the East won the title 9 times (Bulls 6, Pistons 2, Celtics 1), the champion of the West won the title 4 times (Lakers 3, Rockets 1). The 7 times that Jordan's Bulls didn't win\make the Finals, they lost to the eventual champion of the East 6/7 times (only exception was Jordan's rookie season where he lost to the Bucks who lost in the second round). The seven times that Jordan's Bulls lost playoff series they lost in series that were not close four times (five games or less, the first four seasons of his career), moderately close series twice (six games), and one nailbiter (seven games). Those East Champions won three titles and lost the other four in six games, six games, seven games, and four games - the 1995 Magic were the only poor-performing Eastern Conference team to make the finals during Jordan's time of relevance, and Jordan only played a partial season that year. Except for the 1995 Magic every single East champ to lose in the Finals played a longer or equally long series to what happened in the Western Conference Finals, which suggests that the best team in the East was better than the second best team in the West in most cases. Also, Jordan's Bulls had a harder time winning the East than winning the Finals only once - in 1998 - so the best in the West was likely as good or better than the second best in the East every year except for that one (no need to consider years won by the East but not by Jordan). Based on all that I'd say that the East and the West were pretty balanced through most of Jordan's career, at least at the highest levels of competition, though the championship totals are skewed somewhat by Jordan's dominance there. Bottom line: during Jordan's time with the Bulls he faced about the toughest competition you could expect in the NBA at the time every year except for two, and his team either won or kept it competitive every year after the Bulls became relevant. Jordan's teams beat the second best team in the league six times, lost respectable series to the best or second best team twice, and were blown out by the best or second best team in the league three times before the Bulls became relevant. Lebron's playoff career is a bit trickier to analyze. During Lebron's career up to this point the champion of the East won the title seven times, the champion of the west won the title nine times. If I throw out the three seasons where Lebron didn't make the playoffs (as I did for Jordan's time with the Wizards), that changes to eight for the West (Warriors 3, Spurs 2, Lakers 2, Mavs 1) and five for the East (Heat 3, Celtics 1, Cavs 1). The four times that Lebron's team didn't make/win the Finals, they lost to the eventual champion of the East 3/4 times (only exception was Lebron's first time in the playoffs in 2006 when they lost to the Pistons who lost in the Conference Finals). Lebron's team has lost in the playoffs ten times. Out of those times Lebron's team lost in series that were not close four times (five games or less, but spread around his career this time), moderately close series four times (six games), and two nailbiters (seven games). The East Champions during Lebron's playoff career have lost in 5 or less five times (four of those were Lebron's teams, the other was the team that beat Lebron), in 6 games twice (both Lebron's teams), and in seven games once (not Lebron's team, but the team that beat him). The Western Conference Finals were longer than the NBA finals four of those seven times, which suggests that the best two teams in the NBA were in the West at least half of the times that the East didn't win the Finals. Lebron's team also had a harder time winning the East than winning the Finals only once - in 2012 - so the best in the West was likely as good or better than the second best in the East every year except for one (no need to consider years won by the East but not by Lebron). Based on all that I'd say that the best of the West was a fair amount better on average than the best of the East during Lebron's playoff runs, even though Lebron was in the East. Bottom line: Lebron has FACED the best competition just as consistently as Jordan did, but has had much less success at that level. Lebron's teams beat the second best team three times, lost respectable series to the best or second best team six times, and were blown out by the best or second best team in the league four times (spread throughout his career, all in NBA Finals). The TL;DR version of that wall of text: Lebron James and Michael Jordan faced a top team in the NBA at almost exactly the same frequency. Jordan's teams did significantly better in those matchups, however, as demonstrated by him winning significantly more and also getting blown out slightly less. Jordan was also more consistent, never showing a significant gap between his team and the best the NBA had to offer once he got himself there (with the only question mark on that being in 1995 when Jordan played a partial season). Lebron has been all over the place, getting blown off the court by the best in the NBA in 2007, 2014, 2017, and 2018. You can still argue individual stats and differences in eras, but at the team level in the playoffs it seems clear to me that Jordan was better than Lebron.

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

No one read all that

[@whop100000]

@@nonamewillbegiven8838 Which is why I put a TLDR section at the end.

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@whop100000 dont care

[@whop100000]

@@nonamewillbegiven8838 I see, you're just here to troll a 2 year old comment. Carry on, then.

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@whop100000 sure

[@liggonsreacts21]

in my opinion if lebron is good in the west he is the goat also yall jordan rings stuff is flawed big shot bob has 7

[@hithere99100]

Big shot played with Kobe, Shaq, Tim Duncan and The Dream...Big Shot Bob wasn't the third best player on any team he played on... Jordan was always the best...now you understand the difference.

[@stealthiscool]

Jordan was the best player in a league with prime Magic and Bird. Rings are just one part of the conversation, Jordan is so far in front of LeBron it's actually comical. 1 MVP, 1 DPOY, 9 scoring championships, 3 finals MVPs, 4 all defensive teams, 3v steals titles, a legit first ballot HOF career separates them my guy

[@liggonsreacts21]

hold up how long did it take him too beat detroit lbj lost because he was 21

[@DreDiddy83]

Zen Liggons actually LBJ could have beat Detroit in 2006 when Ben Wallace was still there because Cleveland was up 3-2 before they blew the last 2 games

[@badboykyokushinkai]

Basket Ball horry is a role player not a franchise player .put it in that thick skull of yours......

[@jepoybengco]

Video is good but your opinion is biased. You didnt mention that in Jordan's era several expansion teams were added like Miami, Orlando, Minnesota, Toronto and Vancouver just to name a few. They filled the roster with rookies and free agents. So where is the competition?

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

YAwwwn

[@redace6649]

Now go do a video about how good were the teams that Jordan had to face in the Finals. How many other teams in the 90s beat those same teams that Jordan's Bulls had to face in the Finals? How many of those teams actually made it to the Finals more than once? None of them were on the level of the Spurs or Warriors, who have been to multiple Finals and won multiple championships, which Lebron had to face in his Finals appearances.

[@redace6649]

The Duncan/Robinson Spurs were a different team than the Duncan/Parker/Ginobili team that Lebron faced. There was no "Shaq and Kobe" duo in 1997 and 1998. Kobe was on the team but he wasn't even a starter yet. By the late 80s Kareem was past his prime, barely beating the Pistons in 7 games in 1988, then by 1989 he was totally washed up and they got swept by the Pistons. The Pistons mopped up Jordan's Bulls 3 times, then the Bulls finally got past the Pistons in 1991 when they were only a 50 win team by then and after Isaiah's wrist injury. After the Celtics, Lakers, and Pistons were washed up, all the "also ran" teams were left for Jordan's Bulls to mop up 1 after another. Malone and Stockton were getting mopped up all throughout the 80s and 90s by all kinds of teams lol

[@Zero-wy2gx]

Brian Gore I guarantee you that the Jazz wouldn't have swept a 2001 Lakers team.

[@dwayneturner9395]

Zero Mark Eaton....is Not stopping Prime Shaq!!!!! Stop.

[@leoantiporta5459]

Red Ace Jordan doesnt have to face teams with multiple championship because simply they cannot overcome the greatness of MJ and the bulls---MJ and the bulls deprived them of that...so whats your point?

[@zinjgreen3398]

Leo Antiporta Lebron let teams to get their first ring.. MJ dethroned Champions..

[@cheddyqin310]

Blaming supporting cast is the worst excuse for a super star. Lebron is barely comparable to Shaq, please leave MJ out of this

[@Tayjohnson2103]

Bron been passed mj

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

@@Tayjohnson2103 in your dreams

[@treone3169]

Ok, when LeBron passes garbage Kobe and MJ next season, what will be people's excuse then. If I have more points than you then I am better. Champions only means team.

[@DelightFools]

More points thanks to longevity and having more minutes played. Use common sense child. Give the same time frame to Jordan as Lebron and MJ would still score a sht ton more as he average more points. Kareem the highest scoring player of all time also averaged less than the GOAT MJ and accumulated his points for playing consistently in a span of over 2 decades.

[@treone3169]

Shoulda woulda coulda, please. LeBron will pass Kareem.......Then what will you say then. If you do not know how to play basketball, then you can't talk to me about basketball.

[@michael7455]

@@treone3169 you're saying "shoulda woulda coulda"when you are literally saying what will you say if lebron passes Kareem. It's a if not when. He could die tomorrow for all we know.

[@treone3169]

Dumb asses like Michael V do not need internet service. He will passes everybody. You do not know anything, the way you sound.

[@michael7455]

@@treone3169 do you not realize how you sound. Reread your text. Lol

[@calebstewart2737]

Lebron never played in a weaker east. He just was just that dominant

[@tonytapat1161]

MJ 1-9 IN THE PLAYOFFS BEFORE PIPPEN

[@jds2056]

look at the matchups jordan had to face and compare it to lebron before going to miami, you will see why. Lebron gets through a bunch of 40 win teams and gets to the finals to lose, and he is praised, jordan gets bounced by the 80's celtics and he is hated on. The celtics had 4 hall of famers, jordan had none. Sound familier ? Lebron going to the finals against golden state with 4 hall of famers, and he is praised even losing. Cmon now, lebron is top 5 all time but you cannot make excuses.

[@youngboyxaj6692]

Pippen was ass his first year , and something Lebron fans should be used to hearing he had less help than Lebron , Lebron at least had decent scoring players Jordan had no one but he never chocked

[@TownBwoy]

Lebron didn’t make playoffs his first two years. 😭

[@hud1231]

Lebron missed playoffs

[@TownBwoy]

J D S 39 win teams. 😂😂

[@Lovlee33161]

Well. These next 4 years will prove if your theory is true or not. Him winning a chip or 2 on the lakers in the next 4 year’s nullifies this argument forever.

[@alivingwordwithpastorkello6661]

Alexander Gordon no it doesn't. If he wins next year sure but we all know in the next four years he will have 3 or 4 all stars on his team and GS and houston will lose players.

[@bryanmartinez6643]

Were was lebron last year not even in the finals with the Lakers 😀😃😂

[@boblangford5514]

People are accurate when they say the West has been tougher than the East for a very long time, probably since 1994, with a handful of seasons here and there when the East was slightly better. Having said that, I don't think anyone else that plays today could've made it to 8 straight NBA Finals other than LeBron.

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Yawn you m.oron

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

Not really

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

They can playing on a superteam and a weak conference like him. M.oron

[@HenAnt]

The east was more competitive while the West was far more top heavy until 2000s, when stars on the East finally retired and the weaker West got top draft picks that bolstered their man power better.

[@Unitas19]

Disappointed we didn’t get to see that ‘09 cavs team against the Lakers in the finals. Would’ve been fun to watch. Too bad that magic team was just better.

[@jib4733]

Great detailed video

[@devinmartinez7705]

Seems a little biased called 60 win teams over rated. Give lebron credit for beating 60 win teams.

[@devinmartinez7705]

@Cmindless true but it's not really fair to discredit bron for beating a 60 win team.

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@Cmindless and vice versa tf

[@malikedward81]

🔥 video

[@AhmedLetrondoCherMed]

Now, he's the King of the West.

[@gen.antonioluna5531]

Yeah and the superstars from the west are starting to move to the east just like russel westbrook and kevin durant and harden is also attempting to go to the east won't be suprise if the whole gsw team go east as well long live the king LBJ!😬

[@CharlyXMxli]

So much of a king your king can’t even carry the lakers out west right now...hmmmm I guess he has everybody shook in the conference 😂😂 idiots.

[@killinghawkz]

@@CharlyXMxli he got a championship tho

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

Not

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@killinghawkz didnt

[@Coolruiz19]

Lebron fans never bring this up. Ever !

[@gdroff]

Watch Lebron win 2 Rings in LA.. He's finishing His career there..

[@ass4260]

Great video

[@CCEddieCC]

You also can’t use the opponent shooting bad as a reason his roads were easier lol that has nothing to do with him. You can’t use that against any players road to a chip or the finals

[@aaronrooks2703]

Lebron’s playoff run in 2018 was extremely overrated

[@ezirulez4eva175]

In what way

[@dynamic6645]

Aaron Rooks you are overrated

[@jefflusty38]

LeBron James, the most celebrated loser in sports History. His opponents in the east was weak!

[@Tayjohnson2103]

They were all 45+ win teams dickhead. And each ecf team was 50+ dubs Dumbass

[@algladyou]

@@Tayjohnson2103 in comparison to the west? Plus some are due to injuries

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@@algladyou they were all 45+ win teams. LeBron was just that great so he owned the conference

[@algladyou]

@@Tayjohnson2103 45+ out of 82?

[@Tayjohnson2103]

@@algladyou a winning record which is all that matters.

[@judflores8716]

Kobe Bryant next please!

[@Unitas19]

2014,2015 were the two worst years.

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

Hating ain't a good look. Nigga top 3 no matter how much you try to diminish his accomplisments.

[@koiwaiyoshino9376]

You can see how great he is carrying cavs team before he go to miami.

[@jimmyeast4355]

Great video but I strongly disagree teams like the 2011 bulls, 2013 and 2014 pacers could’ve all made it past the 2nd round in the western conference also the 2015 bulls lead by Jimmy butler could’ve also made it to the western conference finals had they been in the west

[@MindMan424]

I thought you were gonna start in 2011 up to 2018 , when LeBron was WINNING the East , other than '07 ... You started 5 years earlier with 2006

[@darknike5716]

Lebron was expected to win vs Orlando what you talking bout

[@burn1nator]

I was expecting a comparison to the finals not to the playoffs.

[@qbrees30339]

Of course you were.... But how do you get to the finals without going to the playoffs first?? 🤔

[@alexandresantos8049]

LeBron is awesome one of the greatest ever without a shadow of a doubt, he is the best player of the last decade, but let's be real, he is not in Jordan s league... Period! I mean the only great team he defeated in the finals were the Spurs in 2013, meanwhile Jordan defeated a stacked Portland team in 1992, the great Jazz teams of 97 and 98, and even the 1993 Sun's were an amazing team as well, so end of the debate... Plus the 90s were tougher, more aggressive times, today's NBA can t compare it just can't!

[@raferalstonisgoat4457]

the warriors were an amazing team and he came back 3-1 to win that series.

[@Cheapness360]

The warriors in '15-'18 were way better than any other teams that mj played in the finals. Period!!!!

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@raferalstonisgoat4457 frauds

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@Cheapness360 in your dreams kid

[@frondamichaelyvanneangelom1567]

Lebron is in a tough competition dont say that he is in always in a cakewalk through the finals because if you are in the place of Lebron you will feel it and playing basketball is tough competition because Lebron gave every efforts just to go in the finals either the team is no better because if you dont do your best then that is no competition

[@rahulsingh3556]

If LeBron made it to the finals this year...Or next...With kwahi or kd..The conversation will end.cz every team in the west is better then any team Jordan ever faced in rhe finals

[@melvinjobing8147]

2:07 that travel tho

[@moeg.3735]

Was looking for a deep analysis and got mostly "overrated team x, y or z" without any explanation.

[@alvaror.3878]

I've posted another comment and it may seem I'm a LeBron fan, i'm actually not, but his playoff runs before going to the heat... That Cavs teams were also horrible, the Cavs were LeBron and pretty much it. Having said that, I believe the only real competition he has faced in the last 2/3 years have been this year Celtics and maybe Toronto

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

No

[@najeefareed8890]

90s teams(Sonics) get credit for having an equal opportunity offense but the Hawks get flack for it?? I’m not a LeBron fan but stop being biased

[@nonamewillbegiven8838]

Shutup Lebron fan