Were Roman Legionaries Vegetarian?

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[@floridaman-pt2bv]

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[@Tyresio12]

I'm so used to Max Miller's tasting history videos, that every time you mentioned "hardtack" I was expecting the clacking.

[@ForbiddenChocolate]

@Metatron Max from Tasting History needs help translating some very old German. If you know of someone who may be able to help, please check out his latest video. He posted a link to the text.

[@TheEclecticGoat]

@metatron, have you ever done a video on the role of mad honey in warfare?

[@Jaris84R]

Simple fact: soldiers on campaign will eat anything available unless ordered not to. Pillaging and purchases are a general fact in all eras.

[@javonyounger5107]

From memory, this was to the point that some soldiers poisoned themselves, foraging things misidentified as edible, even when they already had food.

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

For the ancient world, this is well documented in Xenophon's "Anabasis" and Zharel's "Arm of the Nike" and "Heaven's Poison".

[@synka5922]

yeah, this was a no-brainer to me too. Soldier gotta eat, so soldier eats. They just take whatever is at hand and edible. Grain, vegetables, fruit, meat from livestock or wild animals... bark and roots when desperate ( last one probably didnt happen a lot in the legions, tbf)

[@Intranetusa]

Grain and salt seems to be standard rations for various armies around the world. Records from the Han Dynasty states that an army of 10,281 men in the 1st century BC needed 27,363 hu of grain (millet) and 308 hu of salt. This is approximately equal to a monthly ration of 2.6 hu of grain and 0.03 hu of salt. Another document suggests a monthly ration of 3.2 hu of grain and 0.03 hu of salt. One hu roughly equals 19.968 liters. This comes out to approximately 1.386 kg to 1.7 kg of grain (millet) a day and ~42 grams of salt a day (assuming .03 hu of salt is .6 liters per months, which equals ~1.3kg of salt, which comes out to ~42 grams a day).

[@DoughnutJelly55]

The Pacific campaign had a lot of starving soldiers.

[@Naomi-pq6tv]

Anyone else expecting to hear Max Miller tapping his hard tack together each time Metatron mentioned hard tack? No? Just me? 😂😅

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

everybody who ever seen max tapp his hard tack expect that any time no matter who mentions hard tack

[@matianlong7907]

now that Metatron is in the USA we HAVE to get this collaboration.. idk.. Metatron translating directly from Latin and Max trying to translate it in modern cuisine terminology, they cooking together and such wouldn't be wholesome?!?

[@ostsan8598]

It's a Pavlovian reaction by now.

[@dustybrand]

Max is the greatest.

[@davidburzo1933]

*Clack* *Clack*! It...haunts...my dreams.

[@faketheo3432]

I'd imagine if you were on campaign, you'd utilize every food source available. So I can't see Legionaries being vegetarians. Well I guess it's kinda funny to imagine Caesar's frequent food shortages were exacerbated because the Romans refused to hunt, fish and forage.

[@MrOffTrail]

Note at 0:35 they said they they had no oil, and were eating rabbit and venison. This sounds like something the American frontiersmen called “rabbit starvation”, and French trappers called “mal de caribou.” Rabbit and venison are exceptionally lean meats, and eating them exclusively can make you sick. This would be especially true of an active soldier burning an elevated number of calories, where intake of protein without the fat present in beef or pork could result in a high amount of metabolic wastes that would stress the body, making them sick. Grain would offset this, but not if food sources were inconsistent due to being foraged, and some of the soldiers binged on foraged lean game only. Today we call this disorder protein toxicity, or fat starvation, and the symptoms are almost exactly the same as dysentery: nausea, vomiting, fatigue, diarrhea, etc...

[@wandapease-gi8yo]

Vinegar based drinks are definitely used through history as a refreshing drink in the heat. Sekanjabin , shrub, switchel are all drinks used by farm hands to the present day.

[@scratthesquirrel5242]

stale bread, meaning not moldy just hard, is fine to eat. it will soften if reheated (its why we toast bread, to reduce staleness) and can be added to soups. tastes fine and wont kill you.

[@Wills.musicpage]

Every time he said "hard tack" I instinctively expected to hear the 'clack clack ' from Max Miller...

[@LEMONedOblaat]

When I was younger, I was always puzzled when the topic of soldiers and their pay came up. Specifically, the Roman's and the Samurai. I was taught multiple times that Roman soldiers were paid "in" salt and samurai were paid "in" rice. Of course now I understand there is nuance, but as a kid I thought it was really silly imagining hardened soldiers bartering grain.

[@PDTeter]

"it seems more wars could have been settled with a bake off." i dont think that guys knows just how histerical he is

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

Metatron, that's a fantastic perspective on the Roman soldier giving Jesus the vinegar. I never would have guessed.

[@MandalorV7]

Yeah. I came to the same conclusion after I learned about the Romans drinking water down vinegar. There are also several passages mentioning reframing from strong wine. Sort of implying that watered down wine was recommended.

[@tomgerlach4489]

This made me think of "Roman Meal" bread that I ate as a child.

[@kingpoxy2289]

7:58 You must've never had a store bought, loaf of white bread from a store in America before, because that spoils FAST, and also yes, bread doesn't spoil in the heat, or cold, unlike berries, vegetables, and meat, because fruits spoil fast in the heat, vegetables aren't fit for colder temperatures, and meat spoils quickly in heat, while bread doesn't react badly to elements, it just gets stale faster.

[@khodexus4963]

In the game I'm working on, for part of the world building, there is an empire that is meant to be a sort of "what if" of a Roman Empire-like equivalent surviving into the late medieval/age of exploration era, and I've mentioned that posca is popular among their military, but most 'elitist' adventurers prefer wine or mead.

[@martinatanasov2381]

In Bulgaria there is a traditional dried-meat sausage called “Lukanka”. I wonder how similar it is to Lucanica and whether there is a historical link other than the similar names.

[@LuxisAlukard]

Please, compare the recipes and tell us how similar they are. :-)

[@profcrow2177]

@@LuxisAlukard Not sure about the recipe but the Bulgarian Lukanka is not smoked, its hanged and dried. However the spices and the name seem too close for comfort, could be a link.

[@SuperSeytan666]

Lucanica was a rustic pork sausage in ancient Roman cuisine. Apicius documents it as a spicy, smoked beef or pork sausage originally from Lucania;[1] according to Cicero and Martial, it was brought by Roman soldiers from Lucania.[2][3] It has given its name to a variety of sausages (fresh, cured, and smoked) in Mediterranean cuisine and its colonial offshoots, including: Italian luganega or lucanica Portuguese and Brazilian linguiça Bulgarian lukanka or loukanka Macedonian (Western dialects) lukanec/луканец or lukanci/луканци Albanian (Arbëresh community in Italy) likëngë or lekëngë, also llukanik in Albania. Greek loukaniko, a fresh sausage usually flavored with orange peel Spanish, Latin American and Philippine longaniza, a name which covers both fresh and cured sausages Arabic laqāniq, naqāniq, or maqāniq, made of mutton and some semolina[4][5] Modern Hebrew naqniq (נקניק), an umbrella term for 'sausage' Basque lukainka Croatian luganiga, flavored with cinnamon Today, lucanica is identified as lucanica di Picerno, produced in Basilicata (whose territory was part of the ancient Lucania).[6]

[@martinatanasov2381]

@@SuperSeytan666 thanks. I learned a lot. Reading to your reply, all the cultures you mentioned seem to be related directly or indirectly to the Roman Empire. So the word “lucanica” might have been applied over time to various local sausages, would you agree?

[@SuperSeytan666]

@@martinatanasov2381 I do, kind of the same with old Mongolian origin words still in use in Russia, Hungary etc..

[@porcus123]

Nah, they just let the deer walk around

[@lucymiau5700]

Mixing water with vinegar makes water safer to consume. It is the same with beer and wine. And the author writing this part of the New Testament knew that giving Jesus some vinegar was not an act of hostility. Only later this missconception occurred.

[@lonelystrategos]

Why would there be a random amphora of vinegar at an execution site anyway? The soldiers standing guard having some posca to drink makes a lot more sense.

[@soulknife20]

​@@lonelystrategosThat's probably what it was.

[@456ArmyGuy]

They all ate at: "Little Cesar's 😅".

[@ryanpeck3377]

So back when Lil Ceasars had a "Meatza Meatza" ad campaign it was historically accurate

[@jacquelyns9709]

Vinegar, especially apple cider vinegar, is considered a health food today. And an aid to weight loss. Some people drink it straight and some mix it with water.

[@soulknife20]

Switzel.

[@TheSpanishInquisition87]

Sometimes yes, but not if they could help it.

[@Nic-mq8hm]

Yes!!! I mentioned that about the crucifixion of Christ on your previous post about posca! Nobody commented or liked it??? lol Yes it is traditionally believed that the soldiers were tormenting Christ. However, Italian scholars as ourselves knowing about posca believe it was a compassionate jester by the Roman. Remember they had no personal grudge against Jesus like the gews did.

[@MrRabiddogg]

I'm surprised the Romans hadn't come up with a version of pemmican. Italy would have the perfect environment for making it.

[@nazarnovitsky9868]

Thank You very much for the new video !😊

[@orthochristos]

No, they weren't. There, I hoped I helped.

[@fluffymuffin4910]

Saved me nearly 20 min, thank you very much

[@noweebatall5520]

Thank you so much for saving my time lol

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

damn

[@boraonline7036]

There is a german saying: "Ohne Mampf kein Kampf!" And the th Romans knew that already!

[@edmundr2167]

"no food, no fight!" For all the non German speakers

[@LauraMolina-LaDiabla]

The history of Europeans’ culture and love of alcohol would be an interesting subject to explore. 🍷

[@georgecristiancripcia4819]

The connections of humans with alchool

[@LauraMolina-LaDiabla]

@ If you’ve ever visited Europe you’d see each country has a culture involved in making and consuming alcohol whether it’s beer or wine. They brought it to the Americas where the indigenous people did not make and consume alcohol (with exceptions, like the Aztecs who made pulque). So as far as history is concerned, no, not all humans. There is an anthropologist theory that love of alcohol and recessive genes are what made white people, AKA Europeans, such aggressive colonizers. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

[@anthonydinsdale8783]

Really liked your revision of the vinegar to Jesus tradition. Very interesting 👌

[@sparrow420500]

Thank you Metatron for the insight on the Jesus/vinegar passage. I never thought of it in that way before. You've given me something I feel is important for me to think about. Now, I'll read the passage again with this in mind. Your videos are one of the few things i look forward to every day!! Thank you for all your hard work!! Also if you're going to keep posting reaction videos (which i love), can you find more bad ones for us?? I love you, but I do miss watching you lose your mind. GLORY TO ROME!! (AND USA!!)

[@Riceball01]

Raff, just to be clear, the narrator didn't say that bread didn't spoil, what he said was that bread didn't spoil in heat/hot weather.

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

17:23 Legumes were commonly buried in pits to ferment and then dug up in the later seasons. The practice gives a bit of logic to the strange Germanic cuisine that is dominated by picked, salted, and dried meats with fermented vegetables - an acquired taste that is best washed down with a pint of beer.

[@lonelystrategos]

"An acquired taste", ha! Kassler with sauerkraut is a fantastic dish for cold days and you by no means need beer to wash it down!

[@BrayanAdler]

It is the same to ask if human beings are vegetarians.

[@LatimusChadimus]

We're omnivores and our bodies can't process leaves. I'll stick to my meat, mushrooms, vegetables, and some fruits

[@IOP_VR]

Love your channel as a Sicilian

[@Bunnidove]

The best italians

[@marco_cee_]

What about his channel not as a Sicilian?

[@Zetact_]

The gospels usage of the sour wine indicate that it was offered to Jesus on a few separate occasions. Most likely it is two or three different instances, with the most iconic being the the last one which probably would have been posca. Matthew and Mark record the one instance of sour wine being offered, and Mark specifies it was wine mixed with gall or myrrh. In this instance, Jesus explicitly refuses the wine. Some believe that this mixture was offered to anyone early within a crucifixion perhaps to dull the pain. In neither of these gospels do they specify it was served in any unconventional manner. Luke records of the instances it was explicitly done in mockery, in the middle of the crucifixion when they hang the sign of "Jesus, King of the Jews" on the cross. This one also does not mention anything about it being placed on a sponge. Matthew, Mark and John further record another instance of wine being offered when Jesus thirsts directly before death. They don't specify what the wine was mixed with, but just that it was sour wine and in that case it likely was just what the soldiers had on hand and given to Jesus as an act of mercy. They do specify in each of these that it was when the wine was placed on a sponge, and in each of the gospels they indicate that Jesus drinks this wine.

[@floridaman-pt2bv]

my day just got way better

[@derskalde4973]

It's clearly BCE : Before Christ Emerged XD

[@FloodExterminator]

"That's alot of Frosted Flakes!" Corn didn't exist in Europe XD

[@robo5013]

Should of said Wheaties.

[@cestmoi1262]

Maybe if the Romans hadn't salted Carthage they would have had enough salt for their troops. Didn't think that one through, did they.

[@legion_sqd]

metatron made a video on this topic. if I remember correctly they simply didn't.

[@SuperFunkmachine]

@@legion_sqd A small area was symbolically salted

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

11:58 According to the autobiographies of Roman Legits, an army depended on the milk of their mares, fermented or made into cheese. If the horses could graze, the milk and cheese supply would remain. Interrupting the milk production was a big thing.

[@marco_cee_]

Pretty sure they ate KFC; Lucius Cornelius Sulla was particularly fond of a Bargain Bucket, extra fries.

[@mrSaber79]

Great video Meta! I'm actually surprised at Weird History seemingly doing better than a lot of the earlier videos you've covered. I wonder if they have started hiring someone knowledgeable to do their research. I only hope this is a real trend and we can see more quality and accuracy from them going forward!

[@lellab.8179]

Stale or dried out bread is not spoiled, though. You can still eat it as is or use it to make something else or in soups. Bread spoils when kept in a too moist environment (i.e. closed in plastic) for a relative amount of time, developing mold.

[@texanamerican101]

1 of my favorite channels! Fun every time 🍻 ty for your time and effort 🇮🇹🇺🇸

[@Intranetusa]

Great video. Grain and salt seems to be standard rations for various armies around the world. Records from the Han Dynasty states that an army of 10,281 men in the 1st century BC needed 27,363 hu of grain (millet) and 308 hu of salt. This is approximately equal to a monthly ration of 2.6 hu of grain and 0.03 hu of salt. Another document suggests a monthly ration of 3.2 hu of grain and 0.03 hu of salt. One hu roughly equals 19.968 liters. This comes out to approximately 1.386 kg to 1.7 kg of grain (millet) a day and ~42 grams of salt a day (assuming .03 hu of salt is .6 liters per months, which equals ~1.3kg of salt, which comes out to ~42 grams a day).

[@Roland3ld]

Here is the usual full support for channel growth.

[@BMO_Creative]

If they killed and rabbits out of season, typically rabbits have fleas or ticks, both of which can pose a risk to humans. Fleas found on rabbits may be carriers of a potentially serious disease called tularemia, or “rabbit fever.”

[@LatimusChadimus]

"If they killed and rabbits out of season" Yep. That made sense.

[@juggernaut7625]

​@@LatimusChadimusnot legal hunting seasons, there are certain times of the year to avoid harvesting wild rabbit as they are likely to have parasites during that time.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

You also get protein poisoning from rabbit. That's why it's only saved for expensive dishes.

[@thelittleal1212]

The antique Italiens love their salami and Fish Sauce

[@KyIeMcCIeIIan]

Thank you so much for the interpretation that the Roman giving Jesus vinegar was an act of kindness; I hadn't considered that yet. Another good one is that Jesus never said "a camel through the eye of a needle", he said "cable" as in a thick rope used to tie anchors to ships. The Greek spelling of "cable" and "camel" is nearly identical.

[@robertross5201]

Though sadly I don’t recall the author or the exact timing of sources I do recall reading that legionnaires often hunted and foraged when on campaign or in garrison. While the food provided was mainly grain they actually ate a fairly well-balanced diet from what I understand. Now, to actually watch the video!

[@SuperFunkmachine]

Garrison troops could buy food, think of how many soldiers buy extras too day to avoid basic chow hall slop.

[@robertross5201]

@ That wasn’t always the case as it really depended on where they were garrisoned. Granted, if Roman troops were stationed somewhere far from towns or villages for any length of time a village of some sort would arise as merchants were happy to part soldiers from their coin and dependents from local populaces would come into being, needing somewhere close by to live. But on the frontiers, especially in the early years of a fort there really wouldn’t be much in the way of a local economy to buy from or trade with.

[@rileyernst9086]

Monty visited and ate rations and meals from the field kitchens(the food the troops got when they were not on active operations). Much like his veterans of the desert war he was accused of looting, in his case; a pig. His defence was that the pig was beligerent and was running amoke around the HQ, so it had to be shot. And it would have been a shame to waste the carcass.

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

i had vinegar based drinks when i was a kid ... my grandmom made mint infused vinegar and we mixed that stuff with water and sugar when she used apple vinegar it was great but it was aweful when she used the regular white vinegar

[@amberchrome]

There is a colonial American version of that drink known as "switchel"

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

@@amberchrome interesting do you know from where it is ? at the moment im interestetin the history of the pa dutch most of those people came from my home part of germany and they still have alot of customs going there and even the langurage is similar enough to be understandable

[@sebastianwieczorkiewicz2612]

I've only seen the title card and I know this is going to be good

[@fitz12ify]

I have made posca (a modern interpretation). I boil mint peppermint and other aromatic herbs (don't know if historically accurate). Let it cool down in the fridge and mix one small amount of wine vinegar with a glass of that preparation. The result tastes strange, but is not bad. I would think that it would be better than drinking just water back in those days.

[@unarealtaragionevole]

"...a little..." I love posca and drink it often. It's not bad. Yes, it takes a little getting used to, especially if you drink a lot of sweet drinks, but once you get used to it you don't even taste the vinegar. I use apple cider and wine vinegar, and sometimes I like to add lemon juice or lime juice for a little variety.

[@FENomadtrooper]

Bread spoils fast depending on the climate. When I lived in a drier part of my state, bread could last all week on the counter. But now I live near Lake Michigan, and bread goes moldy super fast.

[@jacoblamb3535]

15:25 somewhere senator thomas massie is eating an MRE for absolutely no reason

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

10:59 another fun fact, the Clibanis (probably spelled wrong) is also a root derivative of the heavy Roman horse known as Clibinari, aka. 'oven men.'

[@Eckister]

"... maybe they would be allowed to drink after looting and splitting." and get a splitting headache from it... . . . . . I will let myself out.

[@Isarico]

Posca is really, really good. I had a bottle of homemade red wine vinegar from my friend and tried it both with sparkling and tap water(I drink it from time to time). Ratio was 1:10, maybe 1:8. Also that vinegar wasn't filtered very much and had a little bit of sweetness left. Also a little silly idea. You could add a pinch of baking soda to make it sparkle:D I wonder if legionaries had access to something similar.

[@nonbisco]

You should try reacting to some of the videos by SandRhoman History, their stuff seems to be pretty accurate.

[@georgecristiancripcia4819]

I agree with your teory about the roman soldier with jesus.That soldier was standing guard in a fairly bad weather,in a metal armor,so it is normal that he will had something to drink with him.Wine was not allowed on guard duty,water will heat fast,so posca remain.So yes,it was an act of mercy.

[@BakerVS]

I wonder how often they ate cured meat (ancient versions of pancetta, prosciutto crudo etc.) I could easily imagine soldiers snacking on that, or adding small amounts of it to their meals (the way modern Italians do).

[@tylerpatterson3857]

Every time I watch metatron correct language I fight the urge to say out loud “sig hail, mein grammar Fuhre” 😅

[@MrStubbs8157]

Is eating meat perhaps also an expression to eat fresh meat? Similar to in my country you could argue that "eating meat" means unpreserved, fresh meat...and things like sausage, jerky, salami wouldnt be considered to vocabulary "meat"? So they would perhaps "snack" on such things or add it to their foods more often? Bacon in a meal? Just wondering... That would also explain, how they got sick on meat...as it was already spoiled...

[@stykorama8387]

I really like your channel and how much you know about antiquty. Therefore I have a question. I do not speak Italian but lookig for visual representations for Sabini people and warriors. I can't find much in english google, I tried some Italian but no success. Could you advise me something from Italian books or channels?

[@billnorris8457]

Well done. Thank you.

[@JonStein-mu5eb]

Franzia brand wine tastes like vinegar.

[@lifigrugru6396]

so far i know vinegar stay on midleage sailors tabel. vinegar help to keep water drinkable for longer. Bread to, just baked twice for keep it longer.

[@Gashren]

17:00 I heard that vinegar also is an anaesthetic (even if mild one), so soldier giving it to a convict (especially a convict he hight have heard was in fact not a rebel rouser, but a man who talked about God, and even told Jews it was good to pay Roman taxes, healed the servant of a Roman centurion, and did many other unexplainable miracles in the past years in the area) could be indeed an act of mercy. And also explains why Jesus didn't want to drink it - if his suffering was to bring salvation to humankind, any ease of it would also diminish it.

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

I love the title. When Xenophon's men drank a cellar full of elderberry wine, they claimed that they had been poisoned on the day after. In the chronals of Xenophon, his men were eating dried eats and hard tac biscuits. When they encountered flocks of beasts, they merrily rode out to secure fresh meat. Were they vegetarians? No. But a large force quickly depleted hunting stocks. When winter came, J Ceasar would exit the Celtic territories and then relaunch their campaign on the next year. Sometimes, near the end of a campaign, they would have to eat the grain of beasts such as millet.

[@gadiantonx8474]

actually the posca made it to the american south with several names switchel,and haymakers punch for instance

[@goldzzz2200]

7:57 i know we put a lot more preservatives in many of our foods, but the comment specifically to milk and bread is strange. I just checked all the ingredients in both my bread and milk and both have no added preservatives and i do notice they can spoil within a week if not kept properly. Just like to point out a myth i keep hearing (tho this is not to say there isn't preservatives in a lot of our fast foods or whatever, just specifically these two items).

[@robo5013]

Most Europeans don't eat commercially produced bread so they typically find the taste of 'American' bread off putting because it contains more salt and sugar than theirs. Plus if your bread listed calcium propionate or sorbic acid (probably both) they are preservatives not found in European breads.

[@goldzzz2200]

@robo5013 just reread it, it has neither of those ingredients and I double checked the rest and none are preservatives. It does have sugar and salt and I can assume there is more than a European amount of those ingredients there so there's that.

[@waynewatts8736]

True my ex wife in Holland complained about Americans bread to soft and lasted to long.😅

[@davidburzo1933]

That and eating a diet heavy in game meats for a prolonged period of time with out much supplementation can cause a variety of malities. This can include vitamin deficiencies (which can also result in diarrhea) to protein poisoning that can result in a malnutrition despite ingesting enough caloric content (also partially due to the diarrhea that accompanies that condition). Of all, it's a crappy sh!t-uation.

[@davidstange4174]

No, next question

[@shadowheartart3898]

One pedantic comment: The Weird History guy didn't say, that bread doesn't spoil. He said it doesn't spoil *in the heat*, and that the climate doesn't affect spoilage rate. Meat would indeed spoil faster than bread in a hot climate, without preservation or refrigeration

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

11:00 Hot stones are underrated; they were perfect for stews and teas. The "slow-moving animals" comment is not factual; both Xenophon's men and Nemwisa's men perused agile ostriches because they craved the taste of that meat.

[@AleMazza100]

6:50 Scusa se ti correggo, Metatron, ma è "Lugànega". è tipica della Lombardia e del Veneto e dalle mie parti (Brianza) la si mangia spesso con il risotto (allo Zafferano o meno). è interessante che la sua etimologia rimandi alla Lucania/Basilicata,.

[@andykaufman7620]

The main reason we hear about slavery ad nauseum is to invoke a moral lashing in the present day and re-ignite the foundation for the moral order that underpins the ruling Progressive class's ideology. That said, there are many aspects of modern society that are inherently immoral, just as much as slavery and yet totally accepted as a 'fact of life' by this same ideology as most of the people who engage in such activities are part of categories the moralizing ideology aren't trying to perpetually direct their attacks against. Yet, if you want to get to the reality of the situation you'd recognize these relationships with this ideology operating constantly and almost universally.

[@maricallo6143]

Pecorino is delicious, special taste overtone...here in Dalmatia people drink red wine mixed with water all the time and call it bevanda, my grandfather would drink vinegar with water...

[@dimitriradoux]

The Sardinian shepherd bread “pane carasau” stays good for 3 months, so not all Italian bread spoils quick 😉 and Roman Legions based on all other armies of that time especially when looking at the writings of earlier Greek armies like for example Xenophon’s Anabasis and stable isotope evidence from the time, they would have consumed significantly more animal source foods then you seem to infer. This of course does not always have to be meat and could be eggs, fish, clams, dairy/cheese and animal fats which they preferred to olive oil

[@mansfieldtime]

I would love it if you made a video about what the Roman's ate. It could be several videos to. The aristocrats, the soldiers, the common man and the owned man. I'm also interested in the different areas of time. Like when Rome became a city state, and country, an empire and a global power. Though, I see how it would be difficult to do all that.

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

of corse they had scurvy we keept our sauerkraut ;)

[@danielmalinen6337]

It is important to remember that vegan and vegetarian are two different things, a vegan eats only plant-based food while a vegetarian can eat some animal products but has a plant-heavy diet. I say this because I am a vegetarian myself (more specifically semi-vegetarian), my diet is mostly plant-based, but I also eat eggs, poultry, fish, honey, ham, beef, game and sometimes a little bit some dairy products like cheese even though I am allergic to milk protein but not often and not a much. There are also vegetarians who eat some animal products but not all of the ones I listed, for example, pollo-vegetarians eat poultry and pollo-ovo-vegetarians eat poultry and eggs and pesco-vegetarian eat fish.

[@jameswilliams3241]

Salt and vinegar were used as preservative, these being unobtainable would certainly contribute to spoilage and scarcity.

[@soso4169]

Strangely enough, all sausages are called "λουκάνικα" in Modern Greek, which is pronounced exactly as the ancient Roman word "lucanica". I may be wrong, but I suppose that the name came to us thanks to the East Roman (a.k.a. Byzantine) empire.

[@JeffUmstead]

Rabbit starvation is a thing. Rabbit is damn near fat free, and deer can be quite lean depening on the health of the deer. Humans have to have fat, protein, and salt. The less carbs you eat, the more salt you need.

[@Pantheon_D._Primordus]

Bread spoils in Europe... Not in my house, it doesn't get the chance with me around 😅

[@benedictjajo]

People really think back in those days, food was readily available everywhere like it is today. 😂

[@krystofmraz]

I think also vinegar is even better preservative than salt.

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

romans called germanic people barbaric for drinking wine pure ... AND NOT WATERED DOWN i ask myselfe who is the uncivilised guy here ;)

[@harrybloom9213]

The Mongols only ate meat, 10 pounds of meat every 5 days. Humans are real carnivores and only opportunistic omnivores when meat is not available. The Natives Indians also ate mainly bisons.

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

Post cholesterol bloodwork

[@Tomikchomik1]

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[@TheSleepLes]

Sure they were. In fact, you could see them chewing constantly. Not easy to get the green energy calories. Espacially when there is a war to fight.

[@elzee4253]

Carbohydrates are not food for humans!

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

>Body runs on sugar

[@Regulator2000]

The human brain uses glucose as an energy source.

[@elzee4253]

@@trenaceandblackmetal5621 Yes, It runs to diabetes. Human body requires zero grams of dietary carbs.

[@kennetth1389]

Ahh, No. The breed of dog we call the Rottweiler is descended from the Roman herd dog used by the legions. They kept their meat on the hoof, so to speak.

[@kingburgeroftheplane]

Lentils as a main element of diet and military ration/=/vegans when vegans never existed

[@TheKiltedGerman]

To clarify, were Roman soldiers only meat once a week...period...or were they only fed fresh meat once a week? I don't know about anyone else, but eating any meat just once a week under soldier conditions would be grueling. I'd imagine that had to be supplemented with alternatives like the cheese and sausage that were memtioned. Good protein's really important, particularly as a soldier.

[@boaz08]

The amount of bread they ate combined with legumes, vegetables and cheese can easily provide you with enough protein. Humans don't need the insane 2g/kg of protein that strongmen eat, that's actually not even healthy.

[@KroiAlbanoiArbanon]

The real question shoulde be:were they pot smokers?

[@fasteddyuk]

I think this reaction is low hanging fruit.... which they also ate. I don't think any historians are seriously suggesting that. An average Roman soldier would eat whatever they could get their hands on.

[@ZackeTheBrute]

Dident they get paid in lard? That’s not very vegetarian, great source of calories though.