Were SMITE's Returning Items A Mistake? Let's talk...

In patch 11.7, SMITE brought back 8 fan favorite items from the history of the game. Was it a mistake? Let's talk...
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[@POWDERPACKS]

A mistake for competitive yes. A mistake for fun HELL NO 🗣

[@dylanthurston261]

Next thing you know boots and rituals are back 💀

[@DrDisemb0wel]

Instead of nerfing items, let's buff others and let the chaos ensue

[@godofm3tal1]

They are tactically destroying the game so people have a lot of motivation to go buy skins on the new platform when it drops

[@MoMoGonTV]

man just bring back everything. If everything is OP, nothing is

[@NonConDon]

You said that if smite 1 had a future this patch would be bad for the game but then said that 80% of the features added were great additions to make the game healthier. I dont get that.

[@TheAce5399]

Hide of the Nemean Lion should have never left the game. There needs to be some counter building to ADC's for tank and the most we had in usable items were Midgardian Mail and Bewitched Relic Dagger. Crits were settled down quite a bit over the last few patches so Spectral hasn't really been needed. They then boosted all ability-based ADC's for a few patches before nerfing them and then doing the 9.5 revert so everyone is squishy again. Auto based ADC's are much better now because each auto is hitting for a lot more and they have some great protection shred items that can just tear into tanks pretty freely if they don't have good sustain. Hasten Fatalis has always been a problematic item and combine that with Ichval, Hacate's Ring, and the other protection shred items, auto attack ADC's are doing as much damage to Tanks as they are to anyone else. I was getting absolutely demolished by a Freya the other day and there's just very little ways to get around their damage. Hide of the Nemean Lion provides at least some counter play into Auto Attack ADC's, as well as other Auto Attack Tanks like Amaterasu or Erlong Shen (with his buff this patch) and them building Equinox. In a team fight an ADC can quickly burst down a Tank and suffer zero problems from that. At least Hide of the Nemean Lion and Thorns provide SOME consequences for hitting a Tank in a team fight before they get killed. It forces ADC's to pick their targets better instead of holding left click and "w" to win a team fight.

[@michaelgruss1272]

I honestly have a hard time thinking SMITE 1 is going to just die. From everything I’ve seen SMITE 2 simply is not ready and may just not be fun on launch

[@CussionTR]

I don't see wtf the problem is with nemean, I see only smite players crying about AA reflect items. Predecessor, DOTA and LoL all have items that do the same. And in the case of LoL and Pred, they even apply antiheal. What is it with specifically smite players that causes them to cry about this item so much?

[@babaganoosh2075]

Spot the adc mains in the comment section, wow that wasn't hard

[@hisen3.146]

They should reduce Fatalis' haste effect for ranged attacks from 100% to 25% and maybe it only procs every other ranged auto. It would make it a lot healthier and it would still have some sort of effects on gods that really want the passive, like Freya or Charybdis. That's all Fatalis really needs to be kept in line since it's stats are bad.

[@stormraingreen7543]

Well counter adc items are needed to help make it so they don't just easily shred with little worry other than oh hey a burst is near.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

2:23

[@anthonyk3952]

Honestly, for Fatalis I wouldn't mind if it returned to is beta-S3 itiration where it didn't have pen and was basically just attack speed and a passive. Back then it was mostly bought by AA assassins and Freya due to it offering basically no benefit to an ADC's power curve. Was also the healthiest the item's ever been since it was a luxury pick that you bought exclusively for the passive since it offered basically nothing offensively otherwise.

[@calebowens693]

Ichaival: wanted it to return for a long time. When envenomed executioner became available, toxic blade was just not worth building. Another boxing type item was needed. Now, they went with the old passive (lowering power) instead of the more recent attack speed slow. The power reduction is better, although I would have 1. made it a stronger buff/debuff and 2. made it just basic attack power instead of power from items. It feels really good with Manakin mace, so there's some good cheese there.

[@LaFlame1]

3:52

[@BradTheThird]

I'm an ADC main and I never got the chance to use Hastened Fatalis, it had already been removed before I even started.

[@miguellopes9268]

Fatalis is such a noob friendly item and it has basically no counter play, it's stats are not bad eitheir. Obviously is not meta in everyone but the effect is way too good. I went against a poseidon with fatalis, manakin and gem of iso, good luck hitting him with anything, dude was zoomin

[@nekomaige6272]

As someone who was never here for these items I’m loving them! I have something to try and test for myself for once and it’s quite fun learning why these items are in the game.

[@arkaina-ps7pd]

The only reason I'm going to log in is for fatalis