Were the Old Games Workshop Models BETTER? Old Vs New!

In this video Jay looks at and paints up an old school Genestealer Cult Magus and compares that to his new one! We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Saturday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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[@dartfast]

I find that the classic models have more a statuesque pose, most likely due to technical limitations but I really much prefer this look, as well. When the arms and weapons are held out in the poses, it's much simpler to clip and customize them and the READABILITY and cohesiveness of your entire army looks so much better when you have a whole unit of guys. The problem I have with the modern range of WH stuff is how almost every unit is in some dynamic heroic pose, jumping through air, tiptoeing on a spent shell casing etc. and this makes your army look like a group of collectible figurines.

[@TheSorrowOfTheReaper]

It also sucks when you want to paint your minis and half your guys hold their guns across their chest so fully painting them becomes much, much harder unless you do some fancy assembly acrobatics.

[@JEKAZOL]

Couldn't agree more. A marine standing alert with a weapon is potential for imagination in the game. A marine firing a grapple hook or throwing a grenade on one foot is just that only. Digital sculpting will only make the models look like a computer game come to life.

[@hideshisface1886]

That also depends on model, there are some older models that have better poses than modern ones. Good example are daemonettes - modern daemonettes are insanely static in their poses - pretty much all just... standing there with pincers up, they look clunky and fail to convey this strange elegance typically associated with them. Newer models featuring daemonettes largely rectify this, like infernal enrapturess, or contorted epitome, but still, the troops stand out here, not in a good way, especially when compared to classic ones. For some armies, very dynamic poses make sense, like Slaaneshi demons, or certain Eldar troops. Others, like Necrons or certain Guard regiments work very well with more static poses.

[@tsm688]

uh, sir in what way were they ever *not* collectible figurines?

[@flintlockbeithir4823]

@@tsm688 i think he means like the anime statues a better way to phrase it would be the newer models all seem to want to be the centre of attention in both pose and detail leading to the armys looking like a disjointed mess

[@Auridus]

If I'm generalizing, I'll say I like retro models more than modern. Modern models tend to get too busy. The retro hand-sculpted look is one that I find endearing. Retro sculpts also usually lend themselves to bright color schemes which I'm partial to. Realistically, though, modern and classic both have a place on my shelf. They're both great.

[@historypunkwargames4760]

Indeed, I love the perry Brothers that used to work for games work shop and there the only metal sculptures that I'm willing to pay the uk shipping fee for (:

[@rasmuskock8077]

Eldar players when they can't even get new models to compare to lol

[@lazerhosen]

Meh, some of the best sculpts in 40k history, but do need the update love

[@Timearkgameing]

@@lazerhosen this

[@emile1365]

@@lazerhosen Based take.

[@nickrogers3111]

The little viles aren't poison, I can't remember the exact wording but in the genestealer codex it talks about them being some pheromones or something that radiates to close by hybrids. to keep them in "frenzy of war" mayb?

[@peterburner6486]

Vials were said to contain the same gene changing liquids contained in a purestrain's ovipositor...allowing hybrids to currupt their opponents.

[@lazyvipurr4698]

Correct.

[@oliverp3545]

I love the range of Warlocks and Farseers throughout the ages.

[@EonsOfBattle]

throughout the ages but they are all still the current sculpt

[@oliverp3545]

@@EonsOfBattle theres been quite a few variants of them ever since Rogue Trader. Currently GW still sell 2 variants of Farseer and 4 Warlocks (excluding bikes), throughout the time there has been 8 Farseer and 10 Warlock models (to my knowledge) and they are all really nice and I'm happy to own a large chunk of that.

[@KabinMiniatures]

Dunno why, but I do love that goofy Razorgor! 1:52 it looks like someone poked him with a hot iron and now he's stampeding like crazy 🤪

[@Akavira85]

I have a space marine tank army of mostly classic tanks, I prefer the og predator over the newer one for sure.

[@tomburden5935]

OG Rogue Trader Rhino hull all the way.

[@michaeljames1334]

i will say that i recently took the plunge and got a nice set of nippers, and what a godsend they have been. truly one of the best tools that i have purchased.

[@EonsOfBattle]

nippers are a must! I buy a new pair every year or two!

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Toenail cutters also work well.

[@martintaylor570]

One thing to talk about after seeing the St. Celestine example - many new models are OVERsculpted. I'm painting them right now for a friend and it turns out sub assembly is almost a necessity and the rest of breaking them is real just while handling normally. Half-hidden detail on them is also incredibly annoying since it's just visible enough to need painting but hidden away enough to risk making mistakes. Let's not even talk about the in-between dark days of Finecast XD Honestly I can't see many newer gamers preferring the old stuff (nostalgia is a hell of a drug), but with GW's current pricing it's actually cheaper to try and buy old models quite often - especially in Australia!

[@OdaManjiro]

definitely

[@Martdogg3000]

"He has a great attitude and I love his space backpack, buuuttt..." seems like telling a friend about a strange date.

[@hyldur]

Wow, that reel of supposedly 'bad sculpts' actually includes some absolutely classic ones, like the Dialogus.

[@mrchoochoohead9033]

So glad i discovered your channel.

[@majingazetto5147]

To my experience, it also helps to add flow improver, if you’re working with white. Sometimes maybe even a little drying retarder, depending on the humidity in the workspace. Also clean the nozzle more regularly.

[@HQDungeons]

the miniatures can be used well together. only the size sometimes sets limits. I tend to like the old, more compact GW miniatures for my Projects.

[@stevencolon1723]

You made an excellent point talking about Hand Sculpting vs Digital. The toolset is different, but the mindset, the process is all still the same. Regardless of which method you prefer, you still have to conceptualize, design, construct, add material, remove material. Its all the same. Digital just streamlines the process, it doesn't need as much space, you dont need tons of materials taking up space, you can undo and zoom in to add insane amounts of detail. I personally prefer hand scultping, I just love the feel of actual clay. However if I were to ever sculpt professionally, I'd go digital.

[@grantpark9093]

I have recently transitioned to building a lot of dioramas and display pieces, I find the older metal models and older plastics that are no longer game scale appropriate are my favorite things to work with. I enjoy that the older sculpts are smaller so my builds are smaller but can be more expansive since I can fit more minis in the build and they take less time to paint. I think everything, even the old sculpts and "ugly" minis have a place... I maybe alone here but that old metal Nagash was a banger back in 1998 man...he was metal AF! Great video btw.... when do we get EOB merch?

[@crumbum2]

It depends on the faction. For the Orks I prefer the newer models, but for the Tyranids I prefer many of the older ones. You just can't beat those Aliens inspired Hormaguants.

[@kenholmes]

Great content as always! Thank you!

[@D00M3R_MAVS]

Your example is exactly how I feel about older imperial guard metals compared to the newer plastics (especially some of the Commissar sculpts) The Commissar with the power fist that has his jacket off his arms and resting on the shoulders, it's one of my all-time favourite minis. I think the new Commissar doesn't even come close to how cool that mini is. Granted the new one is still a good mini, I just really like the older one a lot. It oozed personality, and there were a bunch of different ones as well that were completely different from one another. Now we have one design and that's it (there's a female one as well I think, but not sure if that's even available any more)

[@archiep9162]

Love the channel, it would be nice to see some outer skin tones being painted.

[@wakcedout]

That old necron model wasnt an overlord, it was a necron lord. Which was the main HQ choice of the 3rd edition book.

[@burroc5536]

I love all the GSC miniatures and yes that Magus is awesome one of the first models I painted. Do love the new magus... maguses... magi ... I do like the new models too though.

[@evileyeball]

Magus not Magus

[@AlwaysDrawing2012]

Awesome video, Jay! Thank you!

[@Psychosurgeonpls]

my favorite red is valjeo game color heavy red, most reds dull down and thats fine but they also dont darken as they dull like blues and greens, heavy red gets a shade darker as it dulls and on primes like yours it gets darker in the recesses and lighter on whites so its like free shading on red cloth

[@MuffShuh_PA]

there isn't an old vs new for me^^ as you said, it always depends on your taste^^ same with custom parts^^ btw, I still need the old gsc primarch :D

[@nozyspy4967]

Honestly i prefer some of the older models. They were a bit simper and chunkier, but that is a good thing, since they are more robust. The latest models seem very 'wispy'. They are full of bits that look like they will break off if you so much as look at them. They feel more like something you would paint to display rather than something that is practical to play with. Another thing about the simpler older models is that they are more recognisable. I feel like the complexity of the newer models kinda makes them all blend together in a tangle of twisty, wispy bits when you see them together on terrain rather than being more distinct, ironically.

[@dopeskone]

My problem with GW design, mainly, is about the move to monopose minis. Not being able pose a mini imo takes away from the building experience.

[@scottmarsh2991]

Variety is the spice of life!

[@jdeltaalpha5195]

+1 for Monument Hobbies!

[@D00M3R_MAVS]

wow, our nippers are almost identical. My cheaper pair are the same as yours, only orange and black. My newer ones look almost the same as your newer ones as well (they look the same, might be a different brand. Mine are "Xuron" but the more expensive pair. Still a ton cheaper than God hands though, and are what I use for clipping small parts from sprues) I always wanted the "god hand" but they're very expensive. I use the cheaper ones for any heavy lifting, and I have a really old citadel pair that I will use for anything that's likely to damage or blunt them. The cheaper pair are actually wire cutters though, not purpose made sprue cutters so they're great for heavier duty stuff. I am sure we have the same ones, just different colour handles (mine has the black bit as well)

[@theriotartist]

I almost didn’t start up painting because I found some old metal Warhammer stuff from the early 90s I picked up as a kid and tried to give it a go. Without a doubt plastic is way better for building and painting. Now I’d rather OWN a finely painted Pewter mini as opposed to plastic.

[@Pegwarmers]

I love the old Metal Cult Minis!

[@davisrealestate]

What kind of super glue was that? I like the bottle design

[@neoteraflare]

The old one has the Irken backpack.

[@kzmekos]

Jay mephiston red is aight too

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

Classics are classics for a reason (we do not talk about Nagash)

[@josephskiles]

That poor dialogus will always catch hell

[@Stormeris]

Old tzeentch horrors (3rd gen metal ones by Diaz) are so much than the modern plastic ones.

[@Dorkyorcy]

There is certainly a nostalgia factor for the old models. I also prefer painting the simple, mono-pose without excessive details and annoying 20 part assembly with almost unreachable areas.

[@johnschweiger1079]

They had more character to them that’s for sure

[@egnaroelprup]

Some of the characters like assassins I think looked better back in the day, also this doesn't have a new version and I know he kind of looks like a space marine chaplain but I think eldar's maugan ra is a fantastic mini that still looks cool today

[@petermartin9224]

I loved the look of all the phoenix Lords, but he and jain zar were my favourites

[@chrisstokoe3169]

I like the old metal more every time there's no comparison in my opinion however I also like new stuff it looks good just it feels like it has less heart and soul u get me

[@chrisstokoe3169]

Mind I am 100% in agreement that the advancement of paint over the years is stellar and makes the old models better

[@Mensch777]

IMO one has to compare old and new models WITH the artwork of their time. Back in the days the artwork was not that bound to the miniatures, something that changed when GW had some IP problems and started to almost 1:1 depict their models on the artwork with little to none creative freedom for the artists. Old artwork was something special (with old I mean stuff older than 2008´ish) and it sparked creativity (for me). I like quite a few of the new models, but strongly dislike poses that look more like a diorama than a "normal" mini.

[@ghostparty2062]

I personally like the old genestealer Patriarch way more then the newer plastic one.

[@falsehero2001]

Duplicate mono-pose models bug me. I feel the need either to convert them. There are a couple units that I feel can get away with them; namely highly disciplined and well regulated units. Necron Warriors are a good example of what I’d prefer a bucket of identical miniature over modern kits. A horde of identical robo skeletons marching in perfect sync with each other is a perfect representation of the army.

[@minimundus1712]

YES

[@andrewm.9025]

I find the older multi-pose plastic kits the best. It's much easier to customize your army with a wide range of bits without having to do much, if any, direct cuts into parts. The newer kits have better detail for sure, but to make a unique looking army you'll have to cut parts possibly cutting too much or completely damaging components. I would definitely buy a new kit if I knew I was only going to make the number of models that 1 kit carriers, but not if I want 40 models of a particular unit. I don't want quadruplets running around, or spending hours of time and possibly wasteful money butchering models to try and customize.

[@Blaz243]

It really depends, I prefer new Genestealer Cults minis, but old Templar or Hesperax. Also, Primaris infantry looks fine, but I can't stand their vehicles

[@PraetorGix]

Yeah. Primaris vehicles are the perfect example of how NOT to update a line.

[@adamtwite9941]

YES they were!

[@Stuffandstuff974]

I genuinely love the bad old models.

[@poohbear4821]

Old saint celestine was one of the coolest models. And yeah metal models are better they have more detail and a cooler style its just the proportions and pose

[@Yoshis_Studio]

I'm with you on this one Jay. I'm a huge fan of mixing some old with new. In this case, it could be a generational thing...like the old Magus was from a seed from eons ago, whereas the seed has matured and the biology has since been enhanced, bringing the larger bolder current Magus into play. Doing stuff like this is hella thematic IMHO....keep it up man, love this stuff!!!

[@Slackker_]

"two of the colours are perfectly sensible for skin, beige and light pink, but the other is DARK BROWN" hmmmmmmm

[@pastapockets984]

The original Nagash was sculpted as a joke because the concept model was rejected and the joke one ended up accepted.

[@Chris-jl6vp]

No. You did a good job painting them, but uh. They're so static and stiff compared to the new ones.

[@simonkrummel5407]

I like you and your positive vibe 👍

[@Internetbutthurt]

The infantry in my world eaters army is almost all rogue trader models, except for Kharn. Some of the best minis from that era. metal chipping is a pain though

[@chrisl4999]

I’m in the middle of a project that requires painting some older marine sculpts - night lords, thousand sons, emperors children, etc. These sculpts suck giant monkey balls compared to the current range. I am firmly in the camp that I hate the old metal and resin models. And I definitely don’t like the old marines.

[@2hot2handle65]

People pay hundreds to buy these kits and then spend dozens of hours assembling them. Like, the kits are not even painted. The entire process really shows that you can sell anything if the demand is there.

[@jamescameron-clarke2560]

The Eldar at 1:53 are still great and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

[@geirgilath]

I hit the comments at 1:54 to make sure this comment existed already.

[@Messermarkmauritz]

Disagrees

[@moogiibat5845]

I'll back you up.

[@ArmandDupin]

Most of those models look freaking awesome. Dunno what Eons' issue with them is.

[@viktordickinson7844]

Same. Got actually mad when he just showed the whole eldar HQ setup as "bad models"

[@BrickInTheHead]

I'm a new painter but I find myself liking old GW models (sometimes). They're much simpler and more cartoony than the new stuff, which I tend to like. The new stuff definitely espouses grimdark better, but the old stuff has such a nice charm to it. The old orks are great.

[@Arbbal]

Grim dark, is part of the tag line for the product. Until recently it wasn't a descriptor of the ascetic, and was never meant to be.

[@FacemeltsWasteland]

I think the new models are incredible, but less fun to paint. I love painting older models, the new ones are often tedious to paint because there’s almost too much detail.

[@jonathangagne88]

You are right ! The dynamic poses are great but having to subassembly to reach those almost hidden details isn't as fun as the good old models.

[@Marthe535]

I like the detail but i paint T’au so i don’t speak for everybody

[@varisware]

This 1000000000000000000000000%

[@cameronconnery2080]

Exactly. They’re scaled up as well, which doesn’t make them “easier to paint” like some noobs believe- because “bigger is easier” right? No, it makes them harder and more tedious because they’re huge and crammed full for tiny computer generated detail in very difficult to reach places, unlike hand sculpted models.

[@OGXenos]

@@cameronconnery2080 Honestly it sounds more like you're the noob projecting because they can't handle macro-details on a model and prefer simpler models where your lack of ability isn't as glaring.

[@MidwinterMinis]

03:01 TRIGGERED

[@Josh24861]

Yes. Very much.

[@EonsOfBattle]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true

[@harlek1149]

Old - "This is a Gargoyle." New - "You can't even tell what this is."

[@lazerhosen]

Brode-sode!

[@josephskiles]

That video gets better Everytime I watch it

[@lazerhosen]

@@josephskiles I binged all his videos after I saw it. Great stuff.

[@josephskiles]

@@lazerhosen yeah his necromunda review was awesome as well

[@BonzoDrummer]

The '90s aesthetic was charming in its simplicity and it's being clearly representational rather than realistic. It fit the frivolous, fantasy setting better. Of course, this was before GW went corporate and started taking itself seriously.

[@mojotheaverage]

'Digital tools take no skill' Says brainlets who have never sculpted physically or digitally

[@bloodbarage]

I think they mean anyone can use autocad vs physical skills require people who have a disposition. Not everyone can pick up a tape of green stuff and make a Lord Kroak or great unclean one. But anyone can pick up autocad and design either miniatures. The old school hardcore hobbyist is still more skillful than those who spend hours in Cad. I 3D print and use Cad myself. Anycubic owner here.

[@Edheldui]

@@bloodbarage that's just wrong tho, digital sculpting takes the same amount of skill as traditional sculpting (on top of more knowledge than what was needed a decade ago, because sculptors have to know about the manifacturing processes they're sculpting for), it's just different tools. If anything, modern tools give waaay more options to artists compared to traditional ones.

[@dug1115]

@@Edheldui if GW sculpted each model individually in cad then yes it would be true be true that it takes the same amount of effort than the old traditional way. The problem is that GW seems to make assets that they copy and paste onto other sculpts, sometimes being more than half of the "new" sculpt, giving modern GW a homogeneous feel and less character than the old models. While it is untenable that new sculpts are sharper and of better quality then old sculpts, I'll take and old sculpt over them any day.

[@herculeholmes504]

After spending many years trying (with limited success) to learn how to sculpt in putty and clay, I am now royally fxxked by digital. I ain't got enough years left in my life for it to be worth seriously starting to learn. I should probably abandon the whole thing as a bad idea.

[@ThatGuy-eu2vt]

@@Edheldui the problem with that is that they make an asset and reuse it. they don't make a new bolter every time they just use the already sculpted one and that's ok, the problem is that they do that with whole models a bunch of the death guard HQ's and other models are just mirrored versions of models that came in dark imperium.

[@Taschenmesser89]

Dude Chaos Pumba is one of the most hilarious and therefore great models ever created!

[@flintlockbeithir4823]

agreed

[@idontwanttopickone]

Cutting off the tad on classic models is like cutting off the Spirit of Ecstasy from a Rolls Royce. Go buy an old model and feel the grimace when you see those tabless models. Watch yourself pay double for the cleaned ones with tabs because you know it's not a recast and you don't need to worry about if the paint will come off. Watch all those tabless eBay listings sit unloved. Embrace the tab. That is the makers mark.

[@petermartin9224]

Its a hard choice, but the best thing about it? We don't have to make it! Go with whatever catches your eye the most! Old? New? It doesn't matter as long as you're having fun with it.

[@Wraithcannon]

The old models were better. They were easier to paint and better to play with. I built a new unit of Wraithblades and I am freaked out every time I touch them that an arm is going to snap off. Some of the old sculpts were trash, but so are some of the new ones. There was more good than bad. I miss metal figures.

[@herculeholmes504]

Not that I ever played, but I think the old 1980's and 1990's miniatures were better suited for the business of gaming because they were more compact. The first Warhammer 40K boxed game came with a set of Space Marines + Orks & Gretchins. they were poor sculpts (I especially never liked the weird position of the Orks' axes) but as playing pieces they ranked up easily, and were easily identifiable. something like the modern Sigmar Nighthaunt models look great, but they're prone to bits snapping off and much falling over.

[@EcopiuM]

Kek. Righto

[@Dorkyorcy]

After making, painting and snapping a couple of bits of my Unmade warband, I 100% agree.

[@dextric191]

Kasrkin way better than Scions. Metal Grey Knights with belt fed storm bolters way batter than plastic.

[@richtheunstable3359]

Storm troopers are better than the kasrkin that are better than scions.

[@MatthewStrom88]

Including the Eldar, dragon and Ragnar in a montage of “bad” models is seriously fighting words.

[@lazerhosen]

I've always thought Ragnar was a dumb model... always looked stumpy.

[@joered8578]

I like scattering a few older models in with my newer ones, specifically with my guard. Gives the illusion that some of the troops are hard core veterans who've been there for the long campaign while other guys are new with shiny army.

[@phatbman]

You lost me at hits on the new models. Honestly I haven't been hype for a release in a long time. That said I'm a Tyranid player.

[@JordanBlythe]

I really love your relentless positivity and attitude in these videos. More than the content, they are what makes me keep coming back.

[@EonsOfBattle]

and there is plenty more where this came from!

[@Dorkyorcy]

That's why this is the first painting channel I subscribed to. Just what we need in 2021 🙂👍

[@davidk6269]

Genesteal cult magus looks kind of like a Klingon, and I love it.

[@nakenmil]

I DO wish GW wouldn't overdesign everything as much as they do now though. Just because you CAN detail every surface, doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULD.

[@SnakeWorksStudio]

3:44 Ahhhhh you havnt' tried the Tamiyas yet then! try them and I DARE you to say that again ;D

[@bretts2356]

The only old sculpt that I can think of that I prefer over the new sculpt is Typhus. Everything else in plastic is a clear upgrade for me.

[@Is_This_Really_Necessary]

Agreed.

[@kglguy]

Yeah, old Typhus had such a great pose and design.

[@landgin3781]

Personally, I love the weight of the metal miniatures in my hand. I constantly find myself putting clay in the voids, and adding weight to the bases.

[@landgin3781]

@Lucien Swift the my also break, and melt. Forheworld resin the worst. Broke in the package or wrapped on delivery

[@ScorpioDB]

@@landgin3781 What hell on earth do you live that your plastic miniatures are melting? :D

[@landgin3781]

@@ScorpioDB laredo

[@blackraptor311]

A good model is a good model, regardless of when it was made.

[@EonsOfBattle]

exactly

[@Josh24861]

For the algorithm! For the channel! For the emperor

[@Josh24861]

Subscribe to eob

[@EonsOfBattle]

the algorithm is appeased!

[@zackcook5123]

I do find a charm to older models, though modern stuff looks bloody good. And I'd agree lots of variety is nice. Honestly it's really nice that genestealer cults get a couple character options that can be kitbashed. As well as access to some guard gubbins. I just wish more armies had those extra options. So much choice potential for Aeldari (plus new kits for them), guard, chaos Marines etc I will also argue that the metal missionary with chainsword has one of GWs best faces. Because I want to be contraversial

[@wayofthewarhammer2331]

Old, the great days of rouge trader when you got 3 space marines in a blister pack, for 3 pounds (UK currency) Also the tanks were better. great detail for those days and i could get a Rhino and a predator for 11 pounds. Paper round money well spent.

[@hallarious506]

Greetings from a Dar Eldar player.... Viles of poison are a bitch to paint...

[@Josh24861]

Jay, why is the space marine in the intro not a black Templar?

[@USALibertarian]

He is. Just undercover.

[@jasonmolenaar119]

I took the lady magus and made her into an inquisitor using a salamanders brazier, power maul head, and a sister's of battle head

[@luisbermudez4756]

Hey, those Eldar models are awesome! I take offense at you putting them in such tragic company!

[@AndrewFishman]

Getting reallllly sick of GWs new thing of putting the feet on a base piece. Means you cannot make up your own base and are tied into using their crap. And their crap is crap.

[@riggermortisfpv526]

I started into WH and 40k in 1986, Im not into GW stuff anymore, but GW is not the only company using digital sculpting. I agree that it is a powerful tool and that it has improved the look of models overall. But I have a huge soft spot for the Rogue Trader era of figs. Cool video, thanks.

[@noahwolfe1907]

Top 10 40k glow ups and downgrades

[@zootsanchez]

As an RT OG I never could shake my ingrained bias of plastic = 2nd class; metal = proper

[@WALDO1000]

Lost me at the classic metal Eldar farseers and classic 4th edition black dragon. Those are excellent models. Those Eldar still look good on the table (the gardians without heads do not). And the black dragon is wonderful it’s just from a completely different era and aesthetic. It’s from a more cartoonish high-fantasy era of Warhammer much like 2nd edition 40k with big vibrant colors, hero scale cranked to 11. The big thing you’re missing is that the new Sculpts are so cluttered with extraneous detail and over sculpts they become muddled especially from a table top perspective (not a high-res ultra zoom close up shot). The new stuff is great but a little restraint in many cases would produce better models.

[@PedroSuarez-rm4gx]

Dude listen i live in the forest soo i tryed a cool idea... i do my bases with real plants for example i have a marine with a base like forest and even use a small branch to make it like a tree. that idea is hot as fuxk and have the feel that this kind of base (i know both of u love bases) with a really good paint job... really will be cool if u try Imaginating that u even read this comment

[@georgeaitken2719]

The problem with old workshop figures especially when the mixed plastic arms with metal bodies is lack of variety and Poorly fitting joins still have a few of the old genestealer arm sprues the plastic chaos hvy weapon sprues they came with it was a tricky thing to put them together

[@Happy-br1oj]

I watch a lot of 40K content on KZbin. I think you’re the best presenter out there. I watch your videos even if I’m not that interested in the content of that particular video.

[@craftydogminisArchive]

New models are great, but there’s just something about old metal models that I love.

[@alessiodecarolis]

I started to build & paint them from the late'80s, I liked these old models but the modern ones are easier to build and convert, with plastic you have infinite possibilities

[@ryan.1990]

And they're only 1000x more expensive than the old ones! Win!