Games Workshop WOULDN'T Print this Book Today! RETRO OOP Paint Job

[@iskiebae]

I remember the Assassin Codex was only $5, and the Assassins themselves came in blisters for about $8 each. So, you could get all the Assassins and the supplement for about the same price as just one Assassin today.

[@Benjambles]

In the UK you could get the codex and the classic assassin as part of GWs loyalty stamp scheme.

[@custardstuff5178]

I think they also gave it away free with white dwarf?

[@n3dstark]

@@custardstuff5178 I was just going to say this, you're absolutely right

[@jdeltaalpha5195]

In 2021 bucks it's a lot more. 29 bucks in 1999 is 48 bucks today. You can get an assassin for 39 new.

[@alankelly1001]

And I remember when the modern assassins were introduced in second edition over three White Dwarf issues in 1996 (the culexus assassin was only introduced in that codex in third edition)... and when there was just a single, generic Imperial assassin before that. Damn, now I feel ancient...

[@oscargarciahinde4247]

"GW has been around so long there's basically two minis of everything" Me: sheds a single eldar tear.

[@killfrenzy303]

well there is 3 of most aspect warriors. I have 2nd and 3rd ed dark reapers.

[@chromedog68]

@@killfrenzy303 Warp spiders are I think the only one still without a new model since 2nd ed. With the shining spears lagging behind (although they had a codex entry from 2nd ed, they didn't get models until 3rd ed.) - the base jetbiker model has been replaced since, but the shining spear rider parts are in dire (avenger) need of updating.

[@MrPedroPietro]

@@chromedog68 was shocked, upon returning to the hobby for the first time since the mid 90s, to see that warp spider exarch staring right back at me after all this time

[@emile1365]

Having looked at my older brothers metal Swooping Hawks, they stand up really well in comparison to some modern models. Which says something about nu-GW!

[@flauntingfloof]

@@chromedog68 You likely heard then but Shining Spears are getting updated models.

[@JayAndNightASMR]

I still like the old style, they're not as good close up. But on tabletop the contrast and colours makes the model stand out more.

[@mattbell5602]

Agreed

[@clawhammr666]

Agreed, with kinda 'I dunno...' up close, but on the tabletop, it looks good

[@pinoarias8601]

To be fair edge highlighted minis of today don't hold up at all to close up scrutiny.

[@triangulan]

I have an issue with a lot of modern GW models (including the assassins) of overly dynamic posing. It can be very impressive (and I think works for modellers and painters), but the more generic poses of older models work better for *armies* in my opinion. Duplicates of "guy shooting lasgun" & "guy advancing" are less glaring than duplicates of "guy vaulting over terrain" or whatever, and the tendency for some modern models to bring what amounts to their own terrain pieces with them is irksome as well (Why has he carried that ginormous pipe with him up to the top of that building?). However, I am happy enough with the reduction of the old fashioned "Here is my gun and here is my sword" Y poses for characters....

[@HotZaProd]

@@triangulan I'm with you, and the ease of customising each individual model when each box was universal fit parts. It was so easy changing arm positions and torso rotation, head rotation etc. to create some difference. Sure overall everything is fairly uniform but I liked that more than like you said, 2 dudes in the same vault pose in every unit.

[@EternalQuestion]

Jay - "I'm like a 40k archaeologist" I got that book when it came out. Way to make me feel super old.... I am literally a dinosaur by this comparison 😔

[@NathanielWinkelmann]

I've been working on being less of a know it all d-bag, but since it might cheer you up in this case: you would only be a dinosaur if he said paleontologist. You are only as old as the earliest material culture left by hominids. So, only 2.6 million years old. 😃

[@Hopekuma]

I literally started with Rogue Trader, and my first army was Space Slann. Young Pup ;)

[@HairyHillman]

I feel your pain...

[@peterhoffmann502]

Nah not that old, he didn't say paleontologist.

[@Warghoul]

Me too

[@jonathondaniels2127]

RIP Wayne England. Fantastic GW artist for many years who is sadly no longer with us.

[@Xenaisthebusiness]

Fantastic MtG artist as well

[@ironbomb6753]

Wayne England passed away? Sad news. 😞

[@themobius8077]

When you realise 2002 is retro. I'm old.

[@Josh24861]

I’m born after 2002

[@Josh24861]

You are old

[@busterbackster1]

@@Josh24861 zoomer spotted

[@anthonyreynolds3418]

I was collecting pre-retro...... Way before....

[@Marinealver]

All the softcover books.

[@lukeroberts440]

That 3rd edition Codex Assassins was free in an issue of White Dwarf magazine. And as White Dwarf was badass awesome back then, it didn't irk anyone at the price. :D

[@Tipsythomas]

Was just about to say that same thing.

[@kirgan1000]

and WD, did have intresting articels, and was not only a glorified advertising pamphlet. The latest army could legitimately lose in the battel report.

[@Zonkin]

Yeah, still remember I bought that White Dwarf only to get the codex :P

[@DamplyDoo]

I remember buying that original assassin's codex. I was so pumped to have a "sniper" on my army

[@Kloerb]

I feel like you desperately need to paint the rim of the base in a bright green when you're doing these retro paint jobs. It just feels right.

[@samsowden]

even if you then paint the rim black for it to actually look good, there needs to be a layer of green at least underneath.

[@jamespeterson9620]

Eavy metal was extinct before this. He will need to keep digging into the history of 40k.

[@topkek996]

Bring out the ancient pot of goblin green (screw-on lid version)

[@Maxibon2007]

​@@samsowden don't forget the builders sand stuck to the base with PVA glue THEN painted goblin green

[@lukedaykin2067]

Gretchin Green!

[@whodis715]

Although I didn’t grow up in the 80s I have a soft spot for fantasy worlds during that time and the artwork that came from it He man/ Thundercats Heavy metal landscapes Dark crystal/ willow All just have that feel of mysticism and bad assery

[@michaelspitz9151]

Same I didn’t even grow up in the 90’s and warhammer fantasy fascinates me, I really want to play the new fantasy when it comes out. I also like 90’s shows 80’s music… it’s almost like those were better times for media except for the lack of EOB.

[@NathanielWinkelmann]

Russ Nicholson is easily my favorite games artist.

[@soupalex]

i think you'll probably get a big kick out of "the best thing about hero quest" (search on yt), if you haven't seen it already

[@whodis715]

@@michaelspitz9151 it was a different time for sure

[@whodis715]

@@NathanielWinkelmann the art style reminds me of the sorcery games by steve jackon!

[@RiverCaracas]

I remember buying that book at my local GW to be able to add a Callidus or Eversor Assassin to my Deathworld Veterans army (I dated myself even harder with that reference lol - that's a gorgeous old Codex I highly recommend owning btw). When I got home with it, I reacted the same way you did at the beginning of the video - I was genuinely surprised to discover later on you're not another old hand like me, you certainly have the love of classic 40k. Subscribed.

[@pedrobastos8132]

Man, this really has a strong 90's vibe to it with the blue-that-should-be-black suit. Really cool. Edit: you know whaaat, this color scheme would make for some amazing Crimson Fists. I mean, you got the dark blue and the bright red spot on

[@patrickdillon500]

“You can’t spell ‘assassin’ without ass! Twice!” Ok, i laughed out loud at my desk at work.

[@kylelinton3081]

What a nice face and voice this KZbinr has. A pleasure to watch. He also has useful information, not full of filler.

[@kairos468]

I collect the old 3rd edition codices. Those were the best of times to be a Warhammer fan, a lot of good memories.

[@jonbarnes2424]

I've got the full set from the first time around. It's my favourite edition and I've got rid of all of the subsequent stuff as I'm hoping people might play that version with me!

[@Dwarficus]

I've been in the hobby for just under 30 years now, whilst I love the models we get these days but there's something so cool about the old-school models. Saying that, two out of my last three purchases was a squat from '85 and the original Imperial Assassin from '86, thank the Holy Throne of Terra for eBay sellers.

[@orestmikulin235]

I gotta hand it to you, man - this is definitely the first ass-painting tutorial I've ever seen! XD

[@Monstein]

The "old" book. Man I remember when that came out when I was in high school. Every army had a assassin there after.

[@AbandonRule]

It was really nice to see your pallet at the end

[@Mystyx-Sama]

Proud if owner of Codex: Assassins since it was released, and still have it in great condition. That feeling :)

[@NeretPL]

what a professional video. Man am impressed

[@rodtheworm]

I had the second edition version of that, plus all four assassins. They were great fun. :)

[@DitchCricket11]

Nice job! I am doing the same now with the pewter Kaildor Drago!

[@EonsOfBattle]

I see what you did there!!! cheeky like butts

[@revanjg]

I had one of these back in 95... Oh the dreams I had for a stealth army.

[@walkerawhite4698]

"It belongs in a museum!" ...a Museum of Battle, to catalog the Eons.

[@jamespeterson9620]

You did a DOPE ASS job. Wow. I am way impressed and SUBSCRIBED!

[@LordProteus]

When you mentioned Judge Dredd, it make me think about the Arbites and how I wish there was a special Arbites character unit Imperial Armies could take that were similar to the Assassins. A special character unit that specializes in locking down and subduing other characters, perhaps.

[@emile1365]

Aren't there a couple of characters FW (specifically for Nu-Munda) does which with very, very minor conversion work would work as characters for Arbites!? If so I would recommend for them to become available from recasters or print out some once you have found the STL.

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

Thank you for this cheeky look at painting high contrast blue/black clothing

[@MrOliverdunn]

I love retro painting videos, please do more of these, maybe a retro tyranid model next?

[@lazerhosen]

Ah, a retro Tyranids army, somehow more colorful and mismatched than a retro Eldar army... "wait, they're all the same faction?"

[@harazhangf5782]

I love how everytime your patreon plugs are so smooth. That's just pure talent. That being said, love the retro paint job and the "assassin vs squad" idea of gameplay.

[@adamfox1669]

Sounds like a great used book store! Always enjoy your videos. Enjoy your hobby time

[@Greger88]

That blue paint made me think of the old "The Phantom" comics.

[@lordofswarm538]

I can see that. My mind went directly to the punisher though.

[@Walican132]

Def get the new one. The side by side will be awesome.

[@lukevankleef4245]

8:50 Wow, that was a very quick and fairly non-intrusive add. I congratulate you sir.

[@KrogunDK]

First vid I see of yours. I like it. I will go browse your backlog.

[@erdnase1872]

Thank you for your excellent videos. I especially enjoy the retro models that you’ve been doing. Thanks

[@gameswithtoasty3246]

I LOVE retro paintschemes. They hit different

[@lazerhosen]

I never enjoyed the "Age of Red" as it is referred to by Warhammer veterans. Red swords? Red axes? Red horns? But not even actual red... red highlighted up to orange and yellow, blech. I was glad to see the gradual and then sudden shift into actual gritty, grim-darkness befitting of the setting.

[@gameswithtoasty3246]

@@lazerhosen Love it all hahaha

[@McMissile3612]

Awesome video. I really like how you made it entertaining and educational at the same time.

[@tychoMX]

Never figured out that was Eddy as an Eversor... and I had that codex. That's awesome.

[@lazerhosen]

I think the resemblance is a bit more coincidence, since that was how a lot of skulls were stylized in the artwork of any WHFB and 40k books were... and on many models and shields they carried.

[@tychoMX]

@@lazerhosen True. Derek Riggs' artwork (and the single from 1983) have been hugely influential. For this one specifically I think the resemblance is not just the skulls (heck, Eddy is not really a skeleton), its more the general composition and proportions. And in the words of Riggs himself - maybe it's all that red and blue!

[@scottbeale1825]

I love this model so much. Still have mine kicking around. Love the comic book aesthetic for the paint scheme

[@GhstTwnzFnst]

I was trying to watch a painting guide, and ended up learning how to paint a models bottom area perfectly! Thank you.

[@Printedperformance]

Just stumbled onto your videos. There is a surprising amount of production value.

[@king_aeron]

His voice in the intro wasn't edited in, it's just his strong telepathic wave hitting us.

[@graememitchell3529]

i remember when this book came out. Everyone was super excited for it. you need to remember new stuff didn't come out fast. you'd be lucky to get 2 books a year.

[@grahamcarpenter5135]

♬ You'll take my life, but I'll take yours too You'll fire your musket, but I'll run you through So when you're waiting for the next attack, You'd better stand, there's no turning back The bugle sounds, the charge begins! But on this battlefield, no one wins The smell of acrid smoke and horse's breath As I plunge on into certain death! Whooaaahh! Whoaaah! ♬

[@justarandomname420]

You nailed it!

[@Gumlass1]

I bought that book on release day. I don't remember the price, but remember it being cheap! Also bought a Vindicare assassin to go with my blood angels

[@13Robzilla]

Another great video. The part where you describe why you painted him that way sounds just like the old description of the Eldar harlequins.

[@emile1365]

Ah I love the old school Assassins (there is a "Winter Soldier" style Necro model GW made that I have somewhere!). But if you want some transport with or something to fit the Assassin thematically, I would recommend converting the Deathwatch dropship into a cross between a dropship and the stealth ships from The Expanse (phew!).

[@JeanParisot]

Me: Ah, a new WH40k channel I can subscribe to and add to the depth of my viewing pleasure. EonsOfBattle: (discards Black Templars codex aside) Me: You bastard.

[@Kincoran]

Every time I walk past my 40K 2nd edition box, and see that glorious, bright red and bright yellow Blood Angel sergeant (I THINK it's a sergeant?) I always want to start a project painting a kill team that way!

[@lazerhosen]

I believe he's supposed to be a captain, since his gamesday miniature was a captain.

[@emile1365]

@@lazerhosen Wasn't the model version based off a fan conversion, or is my memory failing me?

[@lazerhosen]

@@emile1365 Fan conversion was based on the artwork, the model likely built on that as well. I'm not too sure.

[@emile1365]

@@lazerhosen The reason I ask is because I remember the conversion being in White Dwarf first, although as I said: I could well be wrong.

[@thedrunkenknight]

I love to paint old models, they are super fun to paint

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

I miss when 40k painting tutorials didn't show perfectly painted models in the codexes, it didn't make you as bad at painting for the first time

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Edit: it didn't make you *feel as bad at painting for the first time

[@epicsardines6440]

He looks amazing, u should be proud dude

[@Matt-md5yt]

awesome job on this old Model. the color scheme is really great

[@SirNigelGresley4498]

Last year I painted up a Bretonnian 5th ed Archer - they were the very first minis I painted, so I wanted to see what twenty years of practice has done to my skills - and I was struck by how the far less cluttered nature of the old sculpts both forces you to bring your very best painting game, and gives you the space to really let rip with those same skills.

[@motnostaw2813]

I actually played a game with this book 20ish years ago. It was cool playing a scenario with just your assassin marked on paper taking snipe shots. We were not irked 20 years ago. It was like buying a White Dwarf Magazine about assassins.

[@black_tower_knight3186]

That's very very cool! Great video, thank you!

[@daniellee653]

Your presentation style is really good. Great paint job too. Making me want to go and find some old metal minis on ebay.

[@d-emprahexpects]

Silent but deadly hahahaha ha you're a genius for noticing that!

[@adamb3455]

Definitely paint the new one! Do the thing, Jay!

[@dubiousbrick4483]

that came out so beautiful, love that, def would love to see the new model painted, the retro aesthetic on the older one looks awesome, i think the modern one could look really cool too

[@dangerssr6025]

Fun fact: the punisher was first introduced in a spiderman comic. Tricked by kingpin to kill spiderman.

[@grinningidiot]

This has me looking at my unpainted orks which include a lot of old sculpts and I'm thinking of the possibilities. I really want to do a comic book paint theme on them now.

[@rmkarros]

I love these old models and have the full set to suport my squat imperial guard army.

[@mikemess7486]

Great vid and nice paint job! I remember the Assassins Codex very fondly as it was my very first Codex. I didn't even get it to play the game but just as a cheap art book. I loved all the grey scale art in it. That little ten pager got me into playing and modeling 40K shortly after.

[@DragonKnight7166]

I'm slowly collecting as many old metal eldar stuff from ebay since I know one day it'll be gone. I'm new to the hobby but the metal sculpts for some factions are so interesting.

[@lazerhosen]

I miss the rag-tag headband aesthetic the guardians carried over from when they were essentially corsairs in early Rogue Trader. Also the ones with mohawks were great.

[@emile1365]

I would say quite a few of the old RT era Eldar sculpts stand up today, particularly the Dark Reapers and other aspect Warriors. But that's just me.

[@lazerhosen]

@@emile1365 For sure, they stand up in terms of sculpt quality, but the scale of 40k has changed.

[@emile1365]

@@lazerhosen Having the old scale would not have hurt one iota, especially with CAD. It's just a case of GW being controlling.

[@converseroo101]

I had this when it came out - only cost £5 so not so bad to get a codex for only 4 models. I wouldn’t mind if the current gw supplements went for that sort of price! Have you seen the original 2nd edition imperial assassin before they had the 4 temples? I have the model somewhere - looks a bit like a vindicare but a bit more of a ninja vibe and doesn’t have the long rifle

[@Josh24861]

I started in 9th Ed and this blew my mind

[@WillSpengler]

@@Josh24861 hell, the 2nd edition Assassin's codex was a freebie with an issue of WD 😅

[@LaughingMan44]

What am inflation?

[@LegionMiniatureGames]

Pretty sure I still have that book, always great to take a look back at the older models.

[@shadowofhawk55]

On him sticking out, he's a sniper. He finds a place several miles out, and sits there for days or maybe weeks until he lines up the perfect shot. Then the target dies.

[@darthboothyreviews]

the paint scheme reminds me of a Cobra character from GI-JOE 80s cartoon!

[@yoyoyo9669]

wow man! this is fantasticly well done!

[@philsayer2447]

I have that codex! Got it as a kid!

[@philsayer2447]

I actually came back to it later when I was in Sixth Form & copied several of the artworks in it out as pencil/pen & pencil drawings in my old cartridge paper flexibound book

[@Hopekuma]

I still have my second Ed Eldar codex. I also have a Bonesinger, and feel like I'm committing sacrilege by cleaning it up and prepping it for assembly (as some parts will need to be pinned).

[@jameslowrance4849]

Great job!

[@mikaelpettersson2052]

Haha. The intro is fantastic👏😆 And great video.

[@Warghoul]

Great job! I still have my models and book too!!

[@USALibertarian]

I think I'm going to base my rims and then just stare into my opponent's eyes and say "do something about it."

[@lazerhosen]

I think I hate textured base rims as much as I hate the insistence of current-age painters on the rim needing to stay black. I've always thought it looked great in whatever the darker or shadow color of the base top was. I mean, I like a black base rim, just not the "requirement" it has become as the current "standard"

[@11Creature11]

Lol those deep fried crispy bases

[@TheSlamburger]

Now you gotta paint up the modern one in the same style to have the matching set

[@someone-gy9yi]

About buying the codex, initially codex assassins was part of the skullz program. You earned a skullz stamp for every £10 you spent. After you got 10 skullz you could have you store send for one of the rewards and then you traded the filled in skullz card for the reward. There were a few reward but the only ones I remember are codex assassins and a metal space marine sergeant. You could only buy codex assassins on its own after the skullz program ended. (This was how it worked in the UK might have been different else where)

[@stevekaczmarek7583]

Yeah i know all three Indiana Jones Movies. ALL Three! U did some funny shenanigans there. Thinking about joining the Hobby. I have to wait for the Chaos Codex. I need Terminators

[@Adamskitheshirtless1]

That assassin codex originally came packed with a white dwarf, so if you got that one you got it for free! It was little 10 year old mes first WD, so i remember it fondly, it was the WD that corresponded with the 3rd edition release of 40k Orks

[@vidi5086]

Awesome result, dude 🤙

[@jonroads8281]

I had this book and the assassins and loved them. Used one in every game lol

[@TheCorrosiveMan]

I really love the retro paint job.

[@Gothead420]

I think I'm gonna paint my Nightbringer like this, but starting with a darker purple/darker grey. 🤓 Nice paintjob, btw!

[@EonsOfBattle]

that would look really cool!

[@mastererik323]

Yes - paint the modern one :) good job man!

[@D00M3R-SK8]

when the vindicare came out, it was the only thing that could reliably kill my blood thirster back in 2nd edition. the thirster back then was completely immune to basic weapons (including bolters) the dude was an absolute beast in 40k. He is also the reason I went from Blood Angels to World Eaters as well. I never got a full army as I was a kid, but I had A Blood Thirster, around 20 blood letters, 2 squads of Chaos Terminators, a chaos land raider and some World Eater chaos space marines (which were essentially Khorne Berserkers, just were called world eaters back then)

[@charlesanthony6368]

you're like the bob ross of warhammer. happy little assassin's!

[@saccharis]

Jay: has a dedicated hobby apron Also Jay: wipes his brush on the sleeve of his shirt :-D

[@bretts2356]

Thumbs up for the Iron Maiden reference!

[@riggermortisfpv526]

LOL, I worked for GW during this period. I started with an even older edition, Rogue Trader baby.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

I have one of these in my box waiting to get painted again after spending 20 odd years going from house to house since I first did a lot more 40k painting. Have one of the evisosor one to do too.

[@Shippo89]

I've gotta try this with my metal Phoenix Lords and Avatar. This just looks like the way to go with the retro sculpts.

[@saeyabor]

0:20 Back in the day when 40k was explicitly *"METAL*" right down to the official art being in-universe Iron Maiden posters in all but name.

[@halkeye20]

i just got mine in. i think i am going to paint it comic book style. but using similar blues to what you are using. if i like how it looks i'll post it to the discord

[@bbtdltd8081]

Looks good, nice scheme

[@argokarrus2731]

I'd love to see that, and then comparison between the two Vindicare models

[@carnut015]

Someone should come with a Spanish Inquisition kitbash of a 40K squad. Why? “NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!”