West Derby Castle - Liverpool Domesday - Radio Merseyside Discussion

[@magic1968]

Nice to see you got some recognition. I was trying to work out the modern names from the map. I think I got most but not all. 😉👍

[@williamanderson5437]

Mersey originates from the ancient border between Mercia (with Norwegian Vikings settling on Wirral, Cheshire & South, the Mercian Army Regiment today is based in Chester), and Northumberland (Under Danelaw, from Danish Viking 'settlers'), now Lancashire. Liverpool owes its origins from the 6 Monks of Birkenhead Priory, operating the first Mersey Ferries for taxation to the crown of England (still operating under a royal charter), from Monks Ferry (Woodside), in Birkenhead to the 'Pool of Liver'. Liverpool logically owes it's very existence to those Monks, developing a hundred years or more, later.

[@peterbrown1012]

To this day when you are looking for ancestors, you look for people in West Derby not Liverpool. On the Wirral, people from Wallasey were Welsh, it was an island inhabited by the British, Wirral was almost impossible to move around, all the old villages were on hills surrounded by marsh.

[@tomwalsh6655]

Crosebi-Crosby Cherchebi-Kirkby Liderlant-Litherland Boltelai-Bootle Derbei-West Derby Rabil- Roby Hitune-Huyton Cileuuelle-Childwall? Esmedune-Everton? Wauretreu-Wavertree Alretune-Allerton?

[@irenejohnston6802]

Esmedune (smooth) Smithdown Lane before extended to become Smithdown Road

[@R6AAO]

Chirchdele - kirkdale, Uluentune - Woolton, Stochestede - is Toxteth because it means "stockaded place" so will have been farm land and wildlife which it is known to have been before being split up as the city grew, Esmedune is "Smithdown" as a greater area and not just as the road(s) we know of in that area. Otherwise the rest are correct.

[@johnwoods7650]

You can see Litherland, Bootle, Walton and (West) Derby in this map plus Tarbock in the South.

[@caroletraynor8763]

I saw Huyton as well.

[@drwugong]

Lee Rymill...did you make me a led zep mix tape back in the day?

[@2sepgorillas]

Was the high-walled ‘embankment’ in Newsham Park (at the top of Lister Drive) once some sort of fortification…? (Askin for a friend…)

[@historyofliverpoolwebsite]

I think that has more to do with the railway line that passes under it.

[@ryanmurphy7976]

Lee do you know whether and Norse artifacts have ever been found in Roby?

[@michaelmyers20ful]

Where is the Norman brickwork in the city ???

[@historyofliverpoolwebsite]

All Saints Church in Childwall. You can see Norman 'cross-hatched' patterning on a few stones outside and inside the main entrance. It isn't exact Durham Cathedral, but it's here and it's 1000 years old.

[@nomad_lyfe]

It's more believable to me knowing kirche is German for church and he says bi meant a place, Kirby the place of the church confirmed, fascinating stuff.

[@irenejohnston6802]

Hlitherland, scandi. R. Mersey, boundary river. UU instead of W sound when 1086 survey was written in latin. Woolton possibly Ulfs ton.

[@mikemccall373]

I love Liverpool! It's the only city that i enjoyed living in!☺️

[@briangreen7797]

Does West Derby Hall near the Church relate to that time?

[@historyofliverpoolwebsite]

I believe it was built in 1912 as the date on the front suggests. A fine example of people building things in harmony with the landscape and history of an area. It's a shame it isn't done today.

[@briangreen7797]

@@historyofliverpoolwebsite Thank you, Lee. About 60 years ago, we (four children) had a large birthday party for all of our birthdays, even though they were at different times during the year. There were the usual childrens games, birthday tea, and an entertainer who was an excellent ventriloquist and conjurer.

[@philipcochran1972]

... and that's why we don't eat cow burgers but beef burgers. We have been Frenchified

[@paulinecabbed1271]

Walton = Waletone

[@paulward4395]

Brick work kirkby st chads church

[@colinmumford267]

Let's just do away with the city name Liverpool back to Mercia 🤣🤣👍