Were My 2000 Hours Of Aim Training Worth It?

[@inafaniel]

hit LEM in csgo, immortal 3, master twice in apex (7x 4k and 6x 20 bombs), top 500 zarya ow2; anything past 1k (in my opinion, if you spend 1k hours of ACTUALLY PLAYING AND TRAINING in aim trainers) it will have diminishing returns. gm precision, flicking, & tracking. I think you need to actually play the games, and troubleshoot bad habits in-game to get good at them. interesting video, definitely but I feel like there're so many other things that go into getting a high rank in these games, aside from just 'training your aim'. if you just want to have 'good aim' you could probably just practice precision, tracking, & micro adjustments. Edit: I feel like you need to live life and do other things aside from just 'improve your aim' and that goes for everyone... half of the players need to work on their mental, and their comms, etc. reason I typed all this out is because I don't think it's worth it, spending 2000 hours training aim (as after 1k hours it started to feel redundant for myself, but thats just me) to each their own and goodluck to everyone.

[@greippuli9166]

To me aim trainers are just fun. I have around 150 hours in kovaak's from around 3 years and I have seen progress and I guess hit good scores, like top 243 in popcorn, but I don't think it helps that much in game, especially in valorant. But then again, if aim is something that's actually the thing holding someone back, kovaak's is an awesome tool

[@mcclappedr6]

Well yeah being a high rank player is all about strong fundamentals

[@IdkWhatToCallThisBruh]

And one day of playing while tired can fkc up all them hours of training 😂😂😂. Dude I swear there is something seriously wrong with me I play one day while feeling tired on slightly less sleep & now my skills are gone, this has happened so many times in the past and now I see why. It makes sense to be performing worse on THAT ONE DAY that your tired but this bs goes on for weeks sometimes months before I start seeing my skills come back. I get in a fight in game & Im just clueless, miss all my shots & don't even see people who are standing right in front of me wearing bright skins this is nearly a week on since the day I played for 3-4 hours while tired & I've gotten over 10 hours of sleep every night since, skills are still not back. This is unacceptable to me. This is why I don't enjoy anything, such stupid little bs is capable of ruining my entire game. People just tell me Oh jUsT tAkE A bReAk dUdE 🤤 already did & it did nothing to no surprise

[@ram42]

Coach me please 🙏

[@WigglyBro]

Sleep and diet and physical exercise and proper posture are more important than people think, as they believe just 'sitting at a computer' is all you need to do and since it's something literally anybody can do, they assume that it doesn't really require the same training regimen as boxing or playing a physical sport like soccer where athleticism is heavily encouraged to be able to compete or just play in general, but a lot of those eSports players are encouraged to work out and expected to do so as part of their training. I think "meditation" (like West Proter here says he did as part of his training) is a gimmick like using oil diffusers, but it is true that you do need to do more than just sit down and play video games all day to get quicker results. Everybody should be exercising at least an hour per day regardless and this directly correlates with mental health improvement. I have zero playtime in any sort of aim trainer, I've just been PC gaming since I was four years old and accumulated enough experience over time to at least play at an above average level at a default state now that I'm not really in my prime gaming years anymore and work a full-time job. I think these aim trainers are better suited for just 'warming up' your aim for an hour or so before you hop into a competitive game.

[@Lowgravity56]

Yooooo 3:20 I wonder who were the ABSOLUTE GOATS that made that routine...

[@OfficialFreakTurbo]

I grinded hoojs routine for over a year and saw great results. now I was looking for a change of pace and a routine that focused a bit more on evasive targets and micro adjustments since i saw in benchmarks those were my weaknesses. Once again you came in clutch with another quality playlist with another collab. Ur based af LG

[@Lowgravity56]

@@OfficialFreakTurbo what a nice comment! Ty friend glad I could help!

[@SoapBark]

I've been playing FPS games since around 2002, starting with BF1942 and moving on to competitive CoD1, CoD2, CoD4, and eventually playing CS and Valorant casually. I thought I had good mouse control skills, but after getting into Aimlabs and trying out the ranked Season 3 playlist, I realized my tracking and target-switching skills needed improvement. After grinding for about 100 hours (keep in mind I have played 10K hours of CoD1/CoD2/CoD4 alone according to xfire), I developed reasonably good mouse control and reached rank 524. Even though it doesn't feel like a major accomplishment compared to players like mattyOW, I’ve noticed a significant improvement in my performance in high-tracking games like CoD Warzone, making the game much more enjoyable.

[@Bigbean2999]

2k hours supremacy

[@WestProter]

2k hours supremacy

[@calmsh0t]

I have 1k hours in aim trainers. Progress is truly slow. Many of these hours were wasted. I felt a boost when I hit Voltaic plat and dia complete. I made it really close to master before quitting voltaic benchmarks. I started doing routines to focus on things I struggle with and felt a nice little boost in my aim lately. But in general, its a slow progress. I'd say even if you use aim trainers, it takes years to really get on a good level. I am at a point where people in lobbies talk about my aim, but it did take several years to get there. Maybe if you have a coach or you are really good at identifying what you need to do in order to improve, you are faster. But don't expect fast results at all.

[@truckmuncher8998]

I just recently started playing pc and your content has helped a ton my aim still isn’t great but it’s decent my goal is by the end of the year to have good aim doesn’t have to be exceptional just quite above average is my goal

[@XM06]

This is a really good video and honestly I feel like I've had a very similar aim training journey with the main difference being that Ive spent more time playing other games on the side and doing in game practice. Consistently training is way more important than finding the best and most optimal way to train, and realistically I think the formula to good aim is mainly: good sleep -> consistent practice -> proper technique -> in game mechanical practice (if you wanna be good at a game since mechanics are more than just mouse control)

[@FortFerdie]

Damn, great video, I found your channel a few months back and I'm improving so fast its insane. I love the dedication you put in and how humble you are! W ❤🎉

[@sfyner]

I agree that in game time is important and game sense but i feel like aim training while focusing helps me focus in game in valorant, my aim feels better but i also make better decisions (I don't know why, after aim training i can play longer without autopiloting) still think you should be playing the game more than the aim trainer if you wanna purely rank up but aim trainers should definitely be a part of your session.

[@kaitofv]

I’ve peaked #34 in dps on overwatch, with 0 aim training outside of workshop. However due to circumstances I had to go nearly 3 months without playing anything. Now, I’m more than washed. Used to average roughly 48% acc on soldier, and now it’s 32%. I’ve been doing my standard routine in the workshop, but I still feel off. My point, is it worth actually committing time into kovaaks? I’ve mainly just goofed around in it playing gridshot when bored in queues. But would creating a good and dedicated playlist to do, be worth it in the short and long term?

[@yougotpwnd123]

I noticed aim training helps me build consistency for sure. I peaked 4.4k on hitscan and still had super off days where I'd get clapped. that was before aim training, I did the same as you, just workshop and even before workshop just like lucio bots lol. I'm much more consistent, dont have as many off days.

[@DylanLaptop]

Were you a soldier one trick player? Or a hitscan player in general?

[@kaitofv]

@@DylanLaptop for the most part I’m a heavy soldier otp, tho recently I have been playing more sojourn and cass

[@Bigbean2999]

I would recommend playing some afps games but keep in mind its a dying genre of game but it doesn't have as many gimmicks as tac shooters

[@name1393]

whats the conclusion, yes or no?

[@WestProter]

Tbh I don't even know.

[@reixxry]

I recognise, that i cant properly focus on crosshair, and should I watch at crosshair or target?

[@aerose5868]

depending on game. val you should do a combination of both. basic rules (some acceptions): long rage = look at crosshair medium - close= target

[@Keg2001]

Hey I know that handsome Goat! Bro started with coaching a hella solid gamer.

[@OfficialFreakTurbo]

4:33 HEY thats GOATpai :0

[@wicklestein]

13 minutes wasted watching this

[@hoangdanghuy8048]

Can u make a good aimbeast playlist for valorant player?

[@TeamBodyBagsGaming]

Controller player here, i sooo badly want to be able to frag out in tarkov PVP but my mouse control is terrible. What could I do to improve in a game with so many random inputs on your crosshair

[@sfyner]

Im not a aim coach or good at aiming at all by any means but out of curiosity if you don't mind, is your grip comfortable? How much does your mouse weigh? Have you tried reactive scenarios and mouse control scenarios?

[@TeamBodyBagsGaming]

@sfyner grip is comfortable, mouse is pretty light, haven't really done any aim training in years. Most consistent I've ever been was after using Miyagi method in Val for a few weeks.

[@DeeManSony]

I think aim labs is bloatware - it’s like warzone (current) vs CS 1.6 (kovak)

[@assorted.shorts1]

Is there a scientifically beat crosshair? Like do certain shapes and sizes make your brain respond in a certain way when you miss a flick, during a flick (when to stop) etc.

[@jiraiya5529]

what do i track with? liek my forearm or wrist? or shoulder idk im new

[@WestProter]

all. depends on angle of the bot

[@ospuze]

Now, grind that bjj black belt 💪

[@WestProter]

Bro I'm 1 year in 200 classes, 1 stripe on my white belt shit takes forever.

[@ared18t]

I started in Bronze Voltaic haha I thought my aim was awesome Oh how wrong I was.

[@robn2497]

When I get to 3000 hours of aim training my video I make will be 3 times as good as yours so you better watch out!

[@truckmuncher8998]

Super light is definitely my dream mouse I got it I love it I’ve learned I really like low friction with the mpc450 mousepad so I’m about to get some jade dots (I play mainly overwatch so I need speed) It’s expensive but the perfect shape for a beginner especially if you have large hands it allows to experiment with any grip style

[@yusufozdemir2971]

gpro in 2024 sucks bro go get something lighter like sora v2 atk f1 ultimate who even cares about gprox these days

[@1a_Teko]

i have more than 2k and im gold voltaic and not even platinum

[@owenburgess3117]

what are ur xc/track prs?

[@WestProter]

5:05 mile 11:07 2 mile 18:21 5k. Literal definition of mid lol

[@owenburgess3117]

@@WestProter those aren’t even bad I’m going into sophomore year and I’m barely faster than u😭

[@WestProter]

Ya. I didn’t improve much after sophomore year tbh

[@cyrusthe0ther795]

You have a stance on listening to music?

[@WestProter]

If you like it do it if you don’t don’t. Aim training is about focus and music can help or hurt focus depending on the person

[@n3tc0de]

I totally disagree with your take that tac shooters are mostly game sense. They are definitely mostly aim. Former CS global. If a team can out aim you, they can just run it down mid every time and win.

[@herogamesabdo4640]

2000 hrs, u must be an aimbot by now

[@WestProter]

no i am a bot and aim

[@herogamesabdo4640]

@@WestProter thx for the reply, but what do u think is keeping u from becoming an aim god with 2000hrs. 🤔🙂

[@hohoucgguztizi4655]

​@@herogamesabdo4640 being a human?

[@joshualagrave5862]

i dont necessarily agree with the idea that game sense is more important than aim in valorant because I believe that your aim is what decides your game sens. If you have crazy aim u can play much more aggressive and play certain agents where ifu have bad aim u have to play more passive lurky and ratty

[@greippuli9166]

Imo in val game sense and movement definitely matter a lot more than aim. Mechanically it's much easier than cs to learn for example, but has a ton of abilities and synergies that actually make the difference in game.

[@greippuli9166]

And if you have good aim and just play aggressively at first, it will NOT work in higher ranks, because everyone else will also be closer to the mechanical skill ceiling.

[@sfyner]

​​​@@greippuli9166bro the mechanical skill ceiling thing is so true, you could have insane aim in plat but a immortal crouch sprayer will always Mvp over you. yeh but getting a hang of the abilities only takes like 30 hours, actually coordinating with your team with utility and etc is what separates ranked players and pros. But in ranked I think aim is definitely important but not as much as others think like you said, if game sense included crosshair placement then yeh I guess aim isn't too important, if you are going from iron-ascendant, base mechanics are important but running down site like the other guy said wouldn't work because without basic information on where people are and strats people use, you will just die instantly being exposed to multiple angles

[@sfyner]

And also with good aim you can still be ratty and lurky, it just depends on which playstyle you like.

[@greippuli9166]

@@sfyner 100% agree, Definitely knew that I had to learn more than to just trying to aim when I hit diamond. Learned some basic synergies with my friend and we hit asc in a week

[@Elpirt6]

nice 1

[@cbarbas]

The 2nd video I am watching about that is full of bullshit.

[@dekapitated0451]

The true answer is no. Any amount of time spent in aim trainers is a waste because there are many pros in each game that shit on every aim trainer player. Learning under God of War Sanchez is the only way to become true aimbot.

[@WestProter]

If you can get God of War Sanchez to make an exposed video about me like he's done for aimer7 i will love you forever. That is my favorite video on youtube.

[@WestProter]

I just rewatched the sanchez video bc you reminded me

[@dekapitated0451]

@@WestProter I will only be able to when I'm no longer the weakest member of God Realm. (Becoming 2nd weakest is a herculean task more presigious than hitting 100% accuracy on Polarized Hell)

[@-GRXNDSCOPER-]

YEAH NO U DONT NEED GAMESENSE MORE THAN AIM IN VAL UNLESS U WANNA GO TOP 100 RADIANT EVEN THEN DONT NEED INSANE GAMESENSE

[@sfyner]

I mean kinda but the skill ceiling for mechanics is definitely lower then game sense, immortals and plats could have the same aim but one frags way more, it's mainly about how much you play

[@-GRXNDSCOPER-]

@@sfyner NAH SKILL CEILING TO HAVE GAMESENSE TO OUTPLAY IMMORTALS IS NOT HIGH, THERE R MANY 600RR PLAYERS WITH PLAT GAMESENSE IVE PERSONALLY SEEN

[@sfyner]

"only 1k hours, with my 2k hours" Bro is too good 😎 are u better than viscose btw?

[@WestProter]

No viscose is 30x better than me, hence the text immediately after saying “this was sarcasm” and the part towards the end where I say that there are a lot of people a lot better than me.

[@sfyner]

@@WestProter oh okay was just wondering xd but its strange, shouldnt you be doing much better since you have double the hours? or is it because she focused much more while aim training

[@WestProter]

Again as I said in the first 15 seconds and reiterated later on, steam records all time the app is open so any time spent afk, scenario creating and playlist creating is logged and I have made hundreds of playlists. Also, almost all my mnk time is in aim trainers, I’m assuming she’s played many many other games.

[@sfyner]

@@WestProter oh 👍 thanks for the information, completely forgot about having many other hours in other games and the fact that you make scenarios :)

[@eze1196]

She 💀​@@WestProter

[@77yblacky14]

bigger hands = more aim potential there isnt anything else to it really . as someone with very small hands i am 100% sure that i am limited at aim potential because of mouse grip .

[@yusufozdemir2971]

that is most nonsense shit i've ever heard there are pros with really small hands

[@77yblacky14]

@@yusufozdemir2971 u can be a pro with small hands but most best aimers have bigger then average hands like 20-21 cm and its way easier for them to grip the mouse play longer while aiming good ofc only if they dedicate the time to do it .

[@yusufozdemir2971]

@@77yblacky14 then just get smaller mice? you'll grip same size has nothing to do with it

[@Tacet137]

lowest iq cope so far, my 12yo daughter is VT Master on vv3 pro

[@ig7oo]

yoo 1 minute ago

[@EyePapiii]

whats the discord