Westside Gunn 'And Then You Pray For Me' Album Review

[@RDrulez100]

Regardless of how you feel about whole project, Kitchen Lights gotta be one of the best song from Griselda

[@sleep6837]

It's on a Mr. T level for me in terms of WSG songs. It's fucking incredible

[@pboxtm8012]

A top tier Griselda song

[@OGC558]

...One of the best griselda songs??? Lol

[@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI]

Lets stop reaching and just saying anything.. its a decent song and the beat is aight. There are wayyy better WSG tracks then that from his previous albums... stop man

[@pboxtm8012]

@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI He just said ONE of the best. There’s a limit of how many best songs people can have, now? Plus Kitchen Lights being overall the top 2 most played song of the album on streaming platforms and beloved by critics is really telling about how people view the song.

[@verbage432]

Y'all need to review this new MIKE record, probably one of the greatest double albums i heard in a long time

[@leavethewatandleavethewho]

MIKE album is 🔥

[@Pimpetigore]

Killer mike?

[@ajoesaint5858]

Ken liking this is a freakin PLOT TWOST

[@ActuallyDarcy]

Ken and Feefo are slowly switching minds

[@xenophon2199]

Myke was speechless on this review

[@geauxtama]

“damn”

[@sneak837]

Them trap joints ain’t it but Kitchen Lights is a Masterpiece

[@gipht1]

Yeah, they are skippers for me for the most part

[@Figleaf-Bicarbonate]

Only like 8 solid songs. He needs to drop the trap shit.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Expeditiously!!!

[@MegaKhalid121]

Why? Because mooniehassan8764 said so? How about yall let artists grow and try different things?

[@ptreznov240]

@@MegaKhalid121he can try whatever he wants but if it’s trash it’s trash

[@MegaKhalid121]

@@ptreznov240 whether you think it’s trash or not isn’t the problem. It’s him sayin he needs to drop the trap shit

[@ptreznov240]

@@MegaKhalid121 yeah fair, if Gunn came with a dope album and it’s trap then I’d be on that I just feel like this one reaaaaally wasn’t it

[@CarlClinto]

This isn’t a good album. Westside Gunn sounds incredibly awkward over 808s and stacked hi hats and always has. This is nowhere near their best. Alot of the production felt stale too. Coping hard if you disagree

[@maxpayne758]

How is someone coping if they like album lol if somebody likes then they like it

[@CarlClinto]

@@maxpayne758 sounds like cope to me

[@maxpayne758]

@@CarlClinto There’s albums you love that somebody else hates it’s all subjective it’s not that serious

[@CarlClinto]

@@maxpayne758 coping hard there brother

[@iDewThis4Yu]

Nah those traps jawns grew on me . Especially Steve and Jonny . I think I’m just use to the new watered down clean trap ish that been running the mainstream for years now..but this that early 2000s dirty trap o holics ish bruh those jawn goo crazzyy

[@RobCosta]

This is a fun ass project. Also, JID was cool, but Conway on “Kostas” was easily the standout, the way he kept changing his flows was insane. I swear Conway could’ve rapped on that beat for a week straight 🔥🔥🔥

[@tmillz7412]

I totally agree, It took Me a full week to sit w/ the album & now I can honestly say this is A True Art project & I Love it for what it is🔥💯

[@Centure120]

Stove God really shined throughout this project!! Love this album!

[@jackgrandchamp8454]

he sounded so good on House of glory

[@JustDraysonTV]

I’m with Beezy on this one. I don’t think I will be returning to this one as much there’s no denying that Kitchen Lights is one of the best songs I’ve heard this year and JID is going to steal the show every single time.

[@PureMoney4]

Them Miguel da Plug beats were not it. At all. And Gunn only got one flow on trap beats.

[@5MofMS]

The trap beats hurt my heart, I ain’t gonna lie😭

[@worldsgreatestraymonddange3806]

After like 5 listens I really love this album like it just clicked out of no where. As where I didn't know how to feel about it at first.

[@dot98]

Ain’t no way you love this album. There’s way to much bloat on this project

[@worldsgreatestraymonddange3806]

@@dot98 we all have different tastes. I'm easily entertained.

[@iseerashonal821]

​@@worldsgreatestraymonddange3806clearly

[@torringooley99]

No one else thought west sounded awkward AF over those trap beats?

[@tenfoiltv1105]

Very, doing his best Lil B impression

[@bowling4clarity817]

Yes . And even the trap sounds themselves sounded very dated for trap .

[@Hysteria87x]

I’m with Ken and Rod on this one. At first I was thrown off, but the more I listen to it, the more I really like it. I get why a lot of people don’t like it tho

[@Igneous17]

I see what Westside is doing. He already proved he can curate avant-garde “underground”. Now he’s preparing to curate avant-garde trap “commercial”. This is the first attempt.

[@prettytone2089]

I feel that's his point. He tryna flex like I can do what yall do better than yall and yall can't do what I do at all. West drops soo much he's earned the right to make this project especially when he still sprinkled in his usually shit on the album. Fans are spoiled and fickle for trashing him for this album

[@fakenamerealchungus9851]

I'm not trashing it at all but he named it as the sequel to Pray For Paris mannnnnnnn

[@tylerc4117]

he actually said in an interview that he was basically just having fun and hes gonna go back to the classic sound with people like madlib and alchemist because so many new people are being put on to him from his features on stuff like donda and utopia

[@theebonymaw]

that's my problem with it: i don't think the trap sounds as "avante-garde" as his boom bap selections. he has an interesting ear but i don't think that came thru in the album for me - like it usually does.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

@@prettytone2089 calling DAY ONE DIE HARD fans fickle is literally an oxymoron lol

[@MaxMax-zo9vq]

We gonna get a review of the Earl/Alchemist project?

[@dylanbrooks5320]

please

[@satwoods4]

They need to..

[@MrMongoslade24]

The trap beats just sounded so outdated

[@harisahmadzi7831]

My expectations for this album were high because of how good Pray For Paris was but it was such a let down. The trap flows don’t sound good from Gunn, the DJ Drama yelling isn’t good, and it’s not cohesive either. It legitimately sounds like just some random songs thrown together for a DJ Drama tape, and that’s very disappointing considering that Westside Gunn can curate projects

[@MisterGlaf]

It’s probably the first time I’m feeling disconnected with DEHH (maybe except Beezy). To me this album is just bad except just for 4-5 tracks. I like trap, but these beats are very low quality, WSG’s rapping was awful on it (slow and not on beat), and the album is overall all over the place.

[@EZ95]

I'm glad y'all liked it. This shit bored me. I think I grew outta wsg. I rather go back and listen to older stuff

[@adankpancake]

we don't need trap wsg the problem with this album is that he has 1 trap flow and a terrrrrible selection of trap beats. idk what they are on. i don't think wsg lost it because everything on here that isnt trap is some of his best stuff ever but the album as a whole is so bad

[@trevorhandberry2158]

So TERRIBLE Gang. I can’t believe people are over here acting like the trap songs, his flow on those were dope..they weren’t.

[@Quake2815]

I think it's more of the wack trap beats thing. 😂 He was using that same flow, though lol.

[@thesten6982]

Also please review Voir Dire!

[@peterbadami4872]

This was a extremely difficult listen for me. It took me 3 or 4 listens just to get through it. I felt like my ears were being waterboarded. If this was his "Gangsta Grillz" mixtape hosted by DJ Drama I could give it pass for how Southern influenced it was and how bad the sequencing and mixing of this project is; but to have this serve as a sequel to one of your most acclaimed albums "Pray for Paris"; nope! I don't have an issue with Eastcoast rappers going over trap beats (Nas, Jadakiss, Dave East, Conway, and Benny the Butcher do it extremely well), I have an issue with rhyming off beat on busy high hats and 808's. For an artist with such as signature sound and consistent discography it's strange for an artist to completely abandon that foundation on their farewell album or swan song.

[@julien9602]

💯

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

🎯💯 Amen!

[@thesten6982]

Was a little bit underwhelmed with this project personally

[@NickA_1992]

Are you guys going to review Nick Grant's Sunday Dinner Album?

[@jchris333]

Nah, this album isn’t good. Few good songs but overall, my least favorite West project by far

[@gdawgs101]

There was a 8.5/10 album in here if it was cut down to about 12 tracks. The first half of this project went so hard but really took a step down at the end. That being said I think the boom bap purists are giving this project way too much hate. There's several certified bangers on here

[@ferrabamo]

i really cant get behind this one the majority of this sounds really lackluster imo and west just doesnt go well over trap beats. i can easily just hit 1 of the 100+ gucci tapes from back in the day to get my fix with exponentially better beats and rapping 🤷‍♂ this and 10 are easily the bottom of his discog for me

[@xSalamz]

Are you going to review the Earl Sweatshirt and The Alchemist album?

[@beezy7974]

Everybody hating on gun going trap are nerds, go listen to some old Gucci Mane mixtapes or just shit back then on Dj fletch tapes, that's the era he was tapping into. the real raw trap shit. Yall to used to certain pockets on certain beats. His given the fans boombap for the past 20 or so albums 😂 and now everybody dissapointed when he wants to try something new smh. The fans or just people that don’t create art really be the ones calling everything trash especially when they understand it. I didn’t really fw the album first listen but after a few listens i get it.

[@qthe6thman]

WSG doesn't have a trap music voice. He sounds like the parrot from Aladdin which sounds better over griselda core production :/

[@JEStheUniversual]

Stop! When an artist who has been doing boom Bap his entire career and suddenly decides to be "different" and uses Trap beats to please today's new fans is ridiculous. Did you ever see Wu or Gangstarr ever doing this shit? Imagine a Wu-Tang or Gangstarr album full of trap beats! Long time fans would be heated, but then again they would never ever do that. Its not about not trying to be different, its about doing something that tailors to your style. Gunn is a grimy cat from NY, and him rhyming over some weak ass trap garbage beats is not him. Him trying to do something different that is "not him" was not a good move. To me I feel he fell victim to these industry sharks because "trap" is the thing and bring in the sales. This reminds me of when the Black Eyed Peas used to be real dope, then over night turned pop.

[@ptreznov240]

Just cuz it’s trap doesn’t mean it’s good, there can be trash trap beats which most of these were. His flow was also atrocious and borderline offbeat on most of this shit

[@panasonicyouth1985]

Rod's Kodak Gold t-shirt is a thing of sheer majesty!

[@alonargus]

Agree with Beezy on this one.

[@harrybuckle631]

I really love how knowledgable y’all are about hip hop, I learn a lot from ya. But still, not knowing who giggs is and where he’s from… UK legend. I’m not from the UK, but I feel like you should know of him at least. Diversification brings flavour. Other than that, love what y’all put out. I’m behind on west’s albums, but I’ll catch up. Always love y’all’s take on things thi

[@MilkmanTJ]

I was always a Griselda fan but their recent projects have been slowing down for sure imo. I don’t know if it’s because they’ve over saturated their catalog releasing albums every 6 months and I’m desensitised or what

[@bostons2826]

I really wasn’t feeling the majority of trap songs but it wasn’t for me

[@twelveeightyseven]

Knew westside was trippin talkin bout this his best album/an instant classic. Straight up one song on the album I fuck with.

[@surr3al1s]

2 for Me - Rome and Boldy saved this from pure mediocrity

[@thewalkingdunning-krugeref9664]

If I was Mike, I would've done something better with my time as well.

[@MobUnchained]

Never pressed play quicker

[@giovannidejoie8618]

Why didn’t ya’ll wait for myke to do it ? My favourite reviews are when it’s all of you guys together

[@filmingkey]

I like trap beats but these were not hitting. They sounded like 2010’s trap beats. Mad dated. Also West did not sound good rapping on them because he was doing that half time rapping and his voice and flow started to get annoying. The rest of the songs were really great though.

[@laamin3961]

Is Ken trolling?

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Gotta be. Lol. Album was aggressive MID

[@hypejinks]

I really enjoyed this album on first listen. Kinda surprised I did. It flowed really well for me. I also completely understand why folks don’t like it. Appreciate the review as always guys!

[@poopymcpoop9945]

Estee Nack sounded like Beanie seagal.

[@tenfoiltv1105]

Westside Gunn was trying to channel Lil B over these trap beats....no sir, epic fail

[@SolidSnake240]

I agree with Beezy on how some of the features were placed. I actually wouldve loved to hear Est Gee over a conductor or Daringer beat but I see what Gunn was goin on this album. Everything from the dj tags with legendary mixtape djs from the south to the sound quality was trying to capture the energy of that era in trap music. It def grew on me.

[@HXKUSAI]

Babylon Bis is my fav song w the Stove God and Keisha Plum features

[@seanyoung9014]

I was really thrown off at first but halfway through, I was like "Oh I see what he's doing here." and I started to like it for what it was not what I was expecting it to be.

[@bryantnardizzi]

First listen I didn’t like it because I was expecting a Pray for Paris sequel.. but after a few listens I absolutely love it. Front to back. It’s an incredible album. Westside the goat

[@MilkmanTJ]

You wouldn’t catch me wearing any of that shit Westside wears. Hell nah I might as well go all the way and wear umbrellas and shit you see in the fashion shows

[@Noirlore]

Stove god / west side: Release a song without making a sports reference challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[@0utwestbreezy]

I liked this project . I prefer the 1st tape but this one was still nice Good to hear new FlyGod again . Y’all should check out that earl x alc project

[@sombrashadow0013]

It took me a second listen but I ended up liking after that. Initially, I wasnt feelin it but Ive definitely turned around on it since first listen

[@nkosigore8836]

One word for this album ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@deadspacedash]

I need a GunnLib

[@AST-erisked]

I didnt love it as other projects from him but at the end of the day, this is a like a "20 for them and 1 for me". He wanted to make a different album for himself.

[@LeMamour]

Where are the stove god projects? who managing him? we need Stove FR

[@yeezusdropout]

Before I watch this. Please don’t cap and act like this was good. Westside Gunn is my fav. And it’s not that he did a trap album. It’s that he can’t rap over trap beats.

[@poopymcpoop9945]

I fuck with this heavy.

[@TrillyThough]

Overall it was a mediocre project. Not the end of the world. Always some worthwhile bangers on a West Project.

[@williesween8780]

And then you pray for me is fire to me. I liked the chaos of the album, the trap beats, lyrics etc. this is my favorite album of 2023 so far.

[@bluehefner426]

Review that 38 spesh album

[@infrared6973]

This albums like nails on a chalkboard to me for the most part.

[@MOH10492]

Gunn sounded bad on the trap beats

[@earhustler08]

Not a fan of the project outside of a few songs. To many songs, not cohesive, off beat lyrics, trap production was terrible.

[@willt8848]

You can easily take 8-9 songs off this album. Gunn doesn't sound good at all on those trap beats imo.

[@BergomyLegendre]

Agreed.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Not even a LITTLE GOOD bro. I respect folks opinions but you can’t tell a day one that this album is good. This is the WORST release of their entire tenure. And I fear the casuals will take to this and tell me I’m bugging

[@willt8848]

@trevorhandberry2158 If other folks like it that's cool. Personally, from DunnHill to LL Bool Gunn is the worst run of songs I ever heard on any Griselda release.

[@iDewThis4Yu]

The one with est gee goes CRAAAAAAAAZY. The rest of the trap jawns coulda got thrown out

[@gdawgs101]

​@@willt8848I fucked with Dunhill but you right on the rest. I hope you're not lumping in Kostas tho because that joint is gas 🔥

[@Yoshisproductions]

This album was aight. I think he has an album with madlib in the pipes as well as the RZA and alchemist ones

[@thesten6982]

A Madlib collab would be awesome, hope we get to hear that one day

[@ArtesanalHall]

Yall gotta review Burning Desire by Mike, it be great to hear what the crew thinks.

[@uhCliche]

the majority of this album wasnt for me. not because i don’t enjoy trap music but because i cant find the appeal of west on traps beats. with that being said, i think gunn has earned being able to have fun with what hes doing. and if this is what he wanted to release so be it. i saved the 10 tracks with the usual griselda instrumentals and enjoy those. he has released so much work he has nothing more to prove imo.

[@dukedill9990]

Those traps beats was hitting wsg with pedigrees and spine busters

[@rofj09]

Album of the year. WSG wasn’t lying

[@JourneyToAUnknownPlace]

Pray for Paris still Westside best project in the catalogue

[@joshuagonzales8451]

Hitler wears Hermes 8 side B

[@bowling4clarity817]

My least favorite West album . Beats weren't hittin, Lyrically lazy for too much of the album, way too lengthy. It's an insufferably disjointed project that I knew I won't be returning to .

[@stephenmcmanus7984]

I actually can’t believed Ken loved this album.🤣

[@tcolson6]

I ain’t seen enough talk about the bad beat selection. The Miguel da plug beats were mixed terribly and sounded from 2013. Kostas is proof he can shine on a good trap beat

[@Uhaul75]

I didn’t like westside on trap beats. I feel like it threw off his flow and I felt like he was rapping in slow motion for an hour fifteen. The best overall song on the project to me was mamas prime time and that was the only song that had a beat that fit Westside perfectly.

[@neternafu1904]

The trap sound killed this no replay for this one, Pray for Paris way better!

[@poopymcpoop9945]

JD wrist is fire.

[@prettytone2089]

Came to say this knack Nicholson was levitating on there

[@leviturner4565]

Thank God for Ken. I Loved this Album

[@iseerashonal821]

Funny how WSG gets so much credit for fashion. Yet so many other rappers like migos, thug, ect...dress and rap about the same and get no credit

[@fentanyljones6956]

It’s a fire project. Some of the trap joints are fire! I’m way surprised anybody didn’t love Suicide in Selfridges.

[@srtoushh.9773]

We need Mykes thoughts.

[@aaronjwallace501]

I'm with Ken. I loved Westside over that trap shit... Daaaaaaammmmn shit was fire

[@fentanyljones6956]

He’s gonna do a madlib project too

[@twiztidlestat]

Skip Feefos rambling 1:42

[@larrytan73]

Westside sound like he he did this 2days~

[@ABombIsCool]

been very excited for this one

[@iseerashonal821]

Not only is trap not of Griselda's world but they dont sound good on those beats

[@brvalentine1]

I'm surprised by the overwhelming positive feedback on this album so for now on when it comes to this album I'm just not going to say nothing. I thought the people who were saying they like this album were being trolls. Apparently I'm just a stubborn ass old boom bap and drumless loop Ninja.

[@arringtonj]

I swear it seemed like Ken was trolling. After hearing him and Rod’s opinion, I’m not too surprised that they like this album. They’re big southern Hip-Hop heads. Feefo is too, though I was very much surprised that he wasn’t really feeling it. I expected him to like it more than anyone on the panel.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Yo. I think I’m in some sort of weird alt world. Ain’t NO WAY this album is good man. No way.

[@ptreznov240]

Nah I’ve heard good trap and this is not it

[@laquintinbelser8342]

One hidden part of the album is: Westside gunn dissed Mach hommy did anyone catch that? It was onthe joint with Keisha plum

[@redgenerall28]

Them shout outs from random people praising Gunn were pure cringe Nevertheless, not being Gunn's fan at all this album was okay and more enjoyable than his other work Features were dope though Especially Chloe

[@2Thessalonians1_7]

Bee, you missed out on Stove God's EP "if these kitchen walls could talk"?

[@NightmareChild013]

It was a good review but I don't understand why Feefo had to go on about how much he loves Insane Clown Posse for like 5 minutes straight.

[@giovannizerbini3119]

Nah. I think this project marks the real end of this Griselda wave. Not that we won't get dope projects here and there (specifically from Conway and Rome Streetz). I think the main issue is how the atmospheric Griselda sound has been watered down over time because of respectable but still damaging changes. It's like they want to show diversity rather than make an album they feel they *need* to make. Tana Talk 3 sounds like an album Benny needed to make. Not a ton of heart in the music to me anymore, but maybe I'm off.

[@poopymcpoop9945]

Not for me, you trippin.

[@trevorhandberry2158]

Bro said he enjoyed it “front to back” “I enjoyed him on this Trap shit” OMG how can this be happening yo. How?!

[@gavindamstrom8206]

Nah Griselda to me is staying true to who they are, no matter what type of hip hop is made. Westside is still having high fashion, coke selling bars on these trap shit, I’d agree with you if westside and everyone wasn’t rapping with those kind of bars, but idk I think there was a lot of inspiration and thought out into this album… Just the inspiration is different

[@marauder_-]

I do agree that if the Griselda wave is to continue, it will be from Conway. I know it hasn’t even been 2 years yet but I think God Don’t Make Mistakes will go down as a classic.

[@SolidSnake240]

Lol

[@5MofMS]

Conductr and Conway just dropped an EP

[@salkastrow2681]

I’m with beezy!!

[@Skrewz]

Beat wise, "Kitchen Lights" is top tier....lyric wise...its basic

[@rahtaylor7651]

The album gets better with each listen. I’m happy seeing him switch up a little. I been a fan since flygod. This was entertaining

[@TuroSivirian]

The DJ drops was giving mixtape era vibes, and yessir Disgusting is niceeeee