06:42 SINGAPORE can be anagrammed as PARIS GONE now you know! 😁
@AH-yu2pi4 жыл бұрын
Good catch, sun sun.
@PM_____4 жыл бұрын
lol foh
@mudslynger21094 жыл бұрын
I watch all the Westworld explanations and I really appreciate the little details that you pick up on and the nuanced way that you interpret. Thank you.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Shucks, that makes me feel really good.
@FrasFs4 жыл бұрын
Hax!!! Been waiting on this video to drop since forever!!
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
The time is now!! :D
@ryanisstuckin934 жыл бұрын
Small problems dude. I just realised I'm an episode behind how many I thought had been shown. So I'm a dickhead. On the positive side I get to watch another episode!! Absolutely amazing this programme is.
@kirk0014 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the letterbox Bernard/Dolores scene. I think I figured it out. It's the second clue that Dolores uploaded Arnold's memories into Bernard. The first was when Bernard ran a self diagnostic at the mesa hub, and one of the images that flashed was of Arnold bringing Dolores online for the first time in episode 1.10. I'm also going with a guess that it's the process of uploading Arnold's memories that changes Bernard's black pearl to a reddish pearl. This doesn't turn Bernard into James Delos--even with Arnold's memories, he's not a direct copy of Arnold. There is only one reason I can see that Dolores would give Bernard Arnold's memories--so Bernard can recreate Dolores after she and all of her copies are destroyed. Everyone has a role to play--he's her back up and restore function. Also the reason they can't save their species working as friends. She needs to make sure he's not involved with her mission or he could be destroyed with her. Also the flashback to Charlie is a reminder of why hosts, and Dolores meant so much to Arnold--they became his children after Charlie died. Bernard keeps running diagnostics to see if Dolores tampered with him. She did--but not in some technical subroutine. She knows Arnold loved her like his own child and she gave Bernard enough of Arnold's memories so he would find those feelings of love for her when the time came. When Dolores dies, Bernard will realize the sacrifices she made and he will want to recreate her. Genius plan, genius tugging at the hear strings story telling.
@abdullahemad94574 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s really good
@rhythmchyc30894 жыл бұрын
kirk001 what sacrifices did Dolores make that didn’t have to do with her own selfish vengeance tour? Dolores is a black hole, NOT a liberator. She has got to go.
@sandracmyers4 жыл бұрын
Rhythmchyc , exactly. If damaged Bernarnold learns of Delores "sacrifices" hed make sure she NEVER came back.
@kirk0014 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmchyc3089 how would you know if you haven't seen half the season yet? First episode, she freed that woman from her abusive husband. Her current mission appears to be to destroy Rehoboam and Serac, the technological caste system that enslaves humanity. Evan Rachel Wood & the showrunners say as much in interviews. The question is whether such freedom from the system is a good or bad thing for humanity.
@kirk0014 жыл бұрын
@@sandracmyers Bernarnold can also edit her like Dolores removed Arnold's self destructive nature when she created Bernard. The whole point of a "check" against her. If the Wyatt portion of her code is what leads to her being destroyed, Bernarnold can recreate Dolores 2.0 without the Wyatt subroutine. That's entirely consistent with the show runners writing style.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Didn't mean to say Arc Minutes was a time. I simply meant to note that this was a bigger metric than we've seen previously. 6.06/3600 of 1 degree = 6.06 Arc Seconds 2.3/60 of 1 degree = 2.3 Arc Minutes Also... I love you
@yousef1174 жыл бұрын
two things you might have missed, the part where Bernard was telling Delores he never finished the house was clearly in a simulation... look at the black bars on top and bottom. Secondly the kid that looks at Bernard at the motel looks like young Ford. Anyways, been waiting for this video for a while keep up the amazing work!
@CorbCorbin4 жыл бұрын
Maybe his machine figured out a way to put itself into the park, and Dolores or Maeve(more likely) are a vessel for it to eventually leave humanity on its own again.
@masterrserch39714 жыл бұрын
Okay Hax, I have a question and this has confused me all season, (well really the last 2 episodes, and especially this one)... William... didnt the end of season 2 hint he was a host (much like this last episode),,but his loop for fidelity testing was in the far future, i.e. wherever/WHENever he was, all in ruins (which I also thought coincided with Serac's Paris flashback maybe?) But this last episode, at least I think which is where my confusion comes in, hints that William is still human and hiding out or whatever, for committing murder, of his daughter nonetheless, from society. So why at the end is he locked up in a psych ward? Does it even matter, does his not knowing if he is a host or not (if he is even doing that cuz this season is REALLY confusing me, too much even...) warrant his craziness and lock up? Sorry if my question in itself is confusing, I'm just not understanding William's role so far this season, especially in light of the very end of season 2,,i.e. his own quest for fidelity, which of course is what a host with a human mind transferred in it has to go through.... I really hope you get/read this comment cuz you're the best breaker downer of Westworld and if anyone can help clear the smoke for one of your fans, it's you!
@masterrserch39714 жыл бұрын
@dantelo88 yeah that's kinda what I was asking, was season 2 end AFTER this current season in the WW timeline overall... I guess so, right
@ExploratorVie4 жыл бұрын
hehe I was gonna let it slide, since we chatted already. I'm coming around to the idea that it DOES measure the severity of a divergence rather than anything to do with the physical location of the incident. Traditionally, arc minutes/seconds are a measure of angular distance or movement. If Serac and Rehoboam consider timelines to be a branching tree, then within WW the arc minute represents the vector of the branched timeline. This would be useful to an entity who is mapping decision trees ...
@niteowl3654 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of this episode I thought at first it was Young Ford host walking through the field as they are similarly dressed and the location looks like West World a bit.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
100% When I first watched the scene I thought they could have been brothers, I'm not sure about the timelines adding up but something feels off. Some link must exist between Ford/Serac. imo
@ahsoka52164 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I thought too because back in season 1 Ford said to Bernard that the last happy memory he ever had was when he was running through the fields with his brother and now see Serac's memories of him running through a field with his brother. Maybe his brother is Serac after all and over time they grew apart due to ideological differences on free will??
@SupportGamin20254 жыл бұрын
@@ahsoka5216 no they aren't,the ages clearly don't match,when serac was a boy,westworld was already in business and ford was already an adult.
@ahsoka52164 жыл бұрын
@@SupportGamin2025 Yeah, I figured that out after watching the previous episode. Some KZbinr or a behind the scenes for the show pointed out that people going through a field symbolizes their last happy memory and foreshadows to them being woken up or gaining consciousness. For example, the other times we've seen the use of a field to be used for symbolism was back in season 1 when Maeve's memories of her daughter were starting to resurface. Another example, was when Ford was running through the field with his brother.
@FazerOnStunn4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, you are the Westworld-Detective-God! You are so informative with your speculations & analyses of this HBO series! Thanks for all you do, it’s so good! I was pessimistic about “Out-in-the-Big-World” Season 3, but now I am really enjoying as of the Ep. 4 with your detective work helping me! Thanks so much.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help Fazer! :D I truly love doing this with all you wonderful people of the internet, feels good to get notes like this!
@TheNignag894 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that very last shot of William, as he sits in his cell with the high wall behind him, a slight amount of light streaming in is very reminiscent of old diagrams of Plato's cave allegory...
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
100% Great call.
@thisisjustanillusion64864 жыл бұрын
I think Maeve bleeding in the “host milk” shows the war between humans and host
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Oh I really like this! Great note!
@ahsoka52164 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can see that foreshadowing to that as well, but I also think there's a deeper meaning behind the blood being poured onto the white. White symbolizes purity and innocence and that particular white substance is also used to create the hosts. As for red symbolizes lust, life, or....... since this show heavily references to the Bible it could refer to Jesus becoming a matyr so Heaven can open up for God's children because blood symbolizes matyrs as well. Furthermore, Maeve who actually has the name Eve in her name; who is mother of all in the Bible, is in fact the one who sacrifices herself to save everyone from damnation and gives them freedom whereas Dolores wakes up the world to consciousness. Also, Serac is trying to find the Sublime which is referred to by the writers as a sort of heaven. Ford created Maeve by the way and he did say she was his favorite so obviously she has a major purpose to the overall story.
@calebalfred70613 жыл бұрын
@Merrick Thomas definitely, I have been watching on flixzone for since december myself :)
@indarwen4 жыл бұрын
Is no one else noticed that the brother of Serac is just like Ford when he was a boy? The boy Ford kept in the park? the same outfit and all?
@cassandragrindall4 жыл бұрын
It is clearly a narrative written by Ford. Even Incite has a maze logo. All of this is a creation by Ford. Perhaps this is just a training exercise, to prepare Dolores?
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
@@cassandragrindall That would be pretty insane... and I love it.
@SupportGamin20254 жыл бұрын
it's not ford's brother,lol
@indarwen4 жыл бұрын
@@SupportGamin2025 Yeah we all know that now :(
@PM_____4 жыл бұрын
eeeeeeestupid
@ashleychapman6154 жыл бұрын
Interesting... I took the MIB scene totally differently. I took it as she said "Welcome to the end of the game" as "you have found your answer" meaning he is real, he had found the end of his own maze, and he has the answer he was searching for.
@maraudershields2834 жыл бұрын
Ashley Chapman me too. I just assumed that it was Dolores’ way of saying ‘this is the end of your story’ thinking she had finally defeated him by having him locked away where he can no longer hurt her or interfere with her plans. Using the game reference is kind of her way of poking fun at him, because it’s what he’s been searching for all this time, and now he’s finally found it.
@xeraph024 жыл бұрын
It could be the end but we need to remember what Ford said to William in S2: ''The game begins where you end, and ends where you began'' Also The Maze is not about being stuck in one place but about constant shifting from one point to the next.
@FOBsinCanada4 жыл бұрын
I feel that Dolores and Emily's code was put into William's pearl the same way Ford was put into Bernard's in S2
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@markwaren50484 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Keep them coming Hax.
@aurelious21144 жыл бұрын
Yes.... Always love to have these on in the background while working! Thanks for the great content
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Glad you're enjoying them, friend! :D
@hyperedwin4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA You should point out that rehoboam is an anagram of A Orb Home. This could mean like you said that the real world is really just a simulation inside Rehoboam and the the REAL outside world is destroyed like Paris.
@jimmyolsenblues4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I completely forgot William would not drink outside of the park!!!
@sgernz19864 жыл бұрын
I think Bernard’s pearl has the encryption key and him staying out of Serac’s crosshairs is his purpose. Hale-ores 1.0 must have created him first so that he could extract her pearl and make copies of it onto the other 4 pearls. Then he recreated Delores using her original pearl (i think Delores would want to be herself with her original pearl). Then Dolores finishes Hale-ores 2.0, erases some of Bernard’s memory and sends him on his way. She creates Emily-ores to drive William crazy. We see her play out her plan and create Martin-ores. I’m not convinced that Maeve is happening in the same timeline as everyone else. I think she and Musashi-ores may be further in the future after Dolores has had some success and Serac is playing catch-up. I think Emily-ores will be reused in a different body later, now that William is in the insane asylum. I also think the pin-prick in William’s neck was implanting a communication device so she can further torment him.
@mjamitche52454 жыл бұрын
You've pointed out some of the inconsistencies I noticed from this episode that no one else is talking about. I also wondered why Maeve should be able to control electronics in the real world when she's only demonstrated the ability to control hosts in Westworld-and that only because Ford gave her the ability.
@russellhinton92724 жыл бұрын
mjamitche5 , go check out Preston Jacobs my friend, his GOT vids are silly to
@loladiaz35344 жыл бұрын
“Discount Bates Motel” Bahahahah
@futureprimitivepast30444 жыл бұрын
Great video, Hax! Always appreciated.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Diablo! Really glad you enjoyed it brother!
@adhithyasash14 жыл бұрын
I also think that's a possible link to Ford, in season one, the two boys young kid Robert and his brother looks a lot like kid serac, it's maybe possible
@adhithyasash14 жыл бұрын
Great job! 🍿😋🔥
@Oxmustube4 жыл бұрын
But the Paris incident occurred in 2025. That would put Serac and Ford in their late 40's early 50's...I don't see it.
@SupportGamin20254 жыл бұрын
Ford said his brother died
@aj3834 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be poetic if Serrac is Ford's "dead" brother? I haven't rewatched season 1 recently, but I definitely get the vibe that Ford's flashback and Serrac's are happening at the same place/time... As for the ages... IDK, perhaps Ford isn't quite as old as he appears, or Serrac is much older than he appears... OR everything we're seeing this season somehow happened before the end of season 1, but somehow after season 2? The nonlinear storytelling is taking its toll on my reasoning, I think...
@Oxmustube4 жыл бұрын
A J I have a problem with the timeline, but I trust the writers implicitly, so I can't wait to see how that will play out.
@GodfreyMann4 жыл бұрын
16:11 Everyone’s made the mistake of thinking that *all* the 5 pearls (other than Bernard) are Delorii, but so far only 4 have been revealed: one pearl is yet unaccounted for. People are also mistaking which host contains Delores-prime. If you think it through, it makes more sense for Delores to keep herself in Hale’s body, because: 1. that’s where she’s safest as Hale has a real identity, whereas all the others are fictional and must remain permanently hidden from the authorities. 2. Serac is hunting Delores...he knows she’s made it out of the park, so any host that looks like Delores has a target on its back. 3. Transferring herself from Hale back into Delores comes with risk of failure, and impractical waste of time and resources. 4. It serves no purpose other than vanity and Delores (especially as Wyatt) is beyond that as it is a human trait. If the writers want plot twists then having an unexpected identity for the 5th pearl and Hale being Delores-Prime are perfect.
@Solenya11114 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting theory. I don't claim to know better. It just makes the conversation in the hotel room between "Dolores" and a seemingly self-destructive "Hale" slightly misleading, if your theory is correct.
@PM_____4 жыл бұрын
its williams boi lawrence
@davidr14314 жыл бұрын
The illuminated triangle. There was audio an illuminated circle in the same shot. There was also the square of Delores' belt heckle in the same shot. Seems to me like a Sony PlayStation reference. All we need is an X.
@aetherllama83984 жыл бұрын
The Dolores talking to William at the end is clearly a hallucination. She's wearing the blue dress and vanishes in an instant.
@russellhinton92724 жыл бұрын
Aetherllama , Hale Delores implanted something into his neck after he was injected by the hospital security and before they took him away
@ahsoka52164 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Dolores hallucinated young William being with her when she was trying to reach full consciousness in season 1. Maybe Dolores did say that to William at one point in his life, but he is hallucinating it now since his mind is starting to reach consciousness. Also, Dolores said to William "it looks like you've reached the center of your maze". Then William asked "Am I real?" with Dolores responding "Welcome to the end of the game".
@haroonrasul71344 жыл бұрын
Finally after a long time 😂 everyday waited for the notification to pop out ❤️
@kategould48574 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was doing the same thing!
@haroonrasul71344 жыл бұрын
This and alt shft x are always what i wait for regarding westworld
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
Hax, I love the "Eyes Wide Shut" reference;).
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Nicholas! ;)
@jimmyolsenblues4 жыл бұрын
This video is so rich with facts, I have to rewind. Love it.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jimmy, I appreciate you saying that. Glad I could add to the experience! :)
@starlingwatch39214 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - well written, insightful, haxdogma-y. I'm enjoying Season 3 more each episode. I wonder what the Stubbs-Dolores fight would have been like without his shoulder damage? I am also hoping for an opening titles credit that includes Anthony Hopkins, wouldn't that be nice. The scene would be Ford and Serac coming to an agreement over the Forge.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Starling!
@MartychM4 жыл бұрын
2:11 that chandelier looks like the season 3 opening credits, like a host being submerged in bloody water
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Great note!
@MartychM4 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA thanks, and keep up the good work these videos are amazing!
@kevinw7124 жыл бұрын
1:31 okay I don't think this is necessarily anything more than just continuing a thematic point visually in the series (so not truly key to the plot) but the shape of the guest room here for the "Mesa Gold Resort" jumps out at me. As there are obviously several of those rooms, but given the curvature of the walls it would seem to suggest that putting many all grouped together would basically be able to result combined in a giant circle. The same shape of the observation room that they had the host James Delos in last season for his fidelity testing.
@CarnivorousCorner4 жыл бұрын
Great job! Thank you!
@realradiant1r694 жыл бұрын
You have the best voice and the best breakdowns.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@Rosie-yt8nd4 жыл бұрын
great video! love how you expand on the episode and always give good thinking points. I've been wondering how Dolores could have created the first copy without help. Bernard's pearl was out of body so it couldn't have been him. Does she have a secret assistent? I also think it's possible Dolores has hidden the final copy of herself. in case all other Dolori get destroyed, at least this one will be guaranteed to survive. Her biggest mistake this season has been to establish a hierarchy among the Dolori. Even in a pack of her own making, she acts like a lone wolf. Instead of a symbiotic relationship that works together, they are subordinates and OG-Dolores only takes and takes. I think she alone has the key and the insight/manipulation over technology furthering her superiority. It's naive of her to take for granted they'll all stay the same, even with little contact to each other. We are shaped by our memories and it's especially noticeable in Hale-lores, living the life of the enemy with barey any contact, left alone by the "hive". Her journey will be very interesting and I think in the end she'll demand to be recognized as just as important as OG-Dolores, to be acknowledged as her own person with value outside the hive
@JudgeDredd_4 жыл бұрын
Definitely needed a great distraction right about now. Thanks for your hard work!
@GodfreyMann4 жыл бұрын
16:25 Good observation that the emotions of each of the Delorii are different. People have speculated that Delores may have separated Wyatt and Delores into two separate hosts. But, this would be a tactical mistake, because for the best chance of winning, she really needs multiple Wyatts to exist. So how to explain Hale’s more sensitive nature? If she’s a Wyatt/Delores copy, then it could be the symptom of a split personality when at those sensitive times its the Delores side coming out, but when she’s torturing William that’s clearly more Wyatt. When we consider the identity of the last pearl (as yet not revealed), it would make sense for it to be the original Delores. Because if Wyatt is successful in carving out a world for hosts, then clearly Wyatt wants a place for Delores to live in. Note: it may not be a simple process to detach Wyatt from Delores, therefore the last pearl could be the original Delores before Ford added Wyatt. That Delores would free of any memories of what transpired (the killing etc which she would deplore) and crucially free of any guilt.
@larryalden794 жыл бұрын
Could definitely be continuing the path to consciousness, being a simulation within a simulation. Serac talks about the destruction of Paris, but what if that's his cornerstone? His tragic backstory.
@rhythmchyc30894 жыл бұрын
So happy to see this this morning. I’m not a fan of this season but I’ll watch all of your videos until the end. 😊
@mattgilbert73474 жыл бұрын
"Possible link to Ford" Yeah, I thought that as well. The clothes, the setting, the framing of the boys in that shot, the way Ford used to spend time in locations that resembled that setting - it's possible that Serac is an "anti-Ford". A misanthrope who wants to *save* humanity, as opposed to a misanthrope who believed humanity's time was over.
@ezwazwaz4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywarren9885 Well there's literally less than a US state's distance between them lol
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywarren9885 He wasn't talking about Ford's nationality.
@killawhatt86204 жыл бұрын
Matt Gilbert I think it’s fords brother.
@mattgilbert73474 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywarren9885 British people go to France all the time. They've been at it for hundreds of years, last I checked.
@soroushe63944 жыл бұрын
I just realized something. I was rewatching episode 03, where Dolores brings back Charlotte online. If you notice when Dolores puts Bernard's pearl on the tablet, the pearl is on the left side of the tablet. In all scene of Westworld that I can remember the pearl was always placed on the right side of the tablet. Maybe this is a hint directors left for us that indicates the mirror world! Could this be the case?!
@Leighllee4 жыл бұрын
14:46 , THANK YOU ! I thought that I was the only one wondering !
@ragtimerendezvous54584 жыл бұрын
17:49 In the book A Beginner's Guide To Constructing The Universe by mathematician Michael S. Schneider, he describes the triangle, "Birth of the Triangle. We express the principle of threeness by writing the numeral "three" with a beginning, middle, and end." So I think the triangle symbolizes William's story's beginning, middle and end, and that he has now reached the end.
@DavidAang4 жыл бұрын
Unlike others, You take time with Your videos, but that's why they are most valuable!! It's always Yours I wait for! Good job dude, thnq!
@GodfreyMann4 жыл бұрын
15:58 It only makes sense for Delores to play the game with a William-host, if he is a faithful reproduction i.e. with William’s true consciousness, because there’s no point torturing anything else as it won’t really be William and she would be wasting her time (assuming vengeance is her goal). But, we know from the cut scene at the end of season 2, when Emily tests William for fidelity that they’ve been unsuccessful way into the future. Therefore William must be human or... ...she’s messing with his consciousness in the Forge or somewhere similar. After all, they would need to have uploaded his consciousness somewhere like that while they work on getting a stable host version of him working.
@DouglasWright4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. Keep up the good work. Thank you!
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Douglas! :D
@gck864 жыл бұрын
I like maeve flickering at the food vendor stalls in Singapore Chinatown. Greeting from Singapore!
@darknagaadventures78844 жыл бұрын
Hale wasn't printed at the time the other 4 were likely printed, making the numbers match, and leaving one female host body that is currently unknown to us.
@marketsmoto31804 жыл бұрын
I've not heard anyone talking about the big white delos sphere and comparing it to rehoboam? I'm wondering if one is the simulation inside the other?
@Garvm4 жыл бұрын
It’s an imax cinema, actually. But yeah. It can definitely be a computer in the show
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I'm not sure what you're referring to...
@Garvm4 жыл бұрын
HaxDogma there is a big white spherical building in the Delos headquarters. He thinks it can simbolizeor even be a computer similar to rehoboam. I just said it is actually an IMAX cinema (hemisferic, in city of arts and sciences in Valencia) Because it is recorded in my city. It is so confusing now to follow the show when a building in my city inaugurated in 1998 is the distant future and I see some of my friends who are actors dressed as nazis XD
@AaronKelley19694 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the end of the game, which is what Dolores said, and Welcome to the endgame mean 2 very different things. The endgame is the part of the game where stakes are highest. Every move is do or die, whereas the end of the game means the game is over and now you're facing reality.
@uhoh0074 жыл бұрын
Great insights both in the video and the comments. To me, this episode is the end of one epic chapter/book: Dolores vs William. Caleb is far more centered as a person than the naive young William. His attraction to "Classic" Dolores is evolving fast, never anything like the William's outright fantasies. The arc is looking like some kind of awakening for Caleb at season end, while the Dolori fight it out with google. In 4 episodes Caleb is now the most developed character in the series, despite human simpliciites, and CharDor's inexplicable self doubt and empathies. The end of season 2 was "untied" to say the least, and E4 was like: you want it tied up? Watch this. What's missing is a Ford/Old Wiliam adversary as the french guy is a total lightweight by comparision with either, but maybe that is now the Dolori and Caleb is the virgin Dolores slowly waking up. I'm loving it, espcially with Hax to save me the trouble of pausing on all the ipads :) The series holds, even gains relevance in our own fast changing "reality".
@A.H.C.4 жыл бұрын
What if we've just been watching Rohoboam get things wrong? I can go along with a lot of things, but no way is Musashi a Delores host. Maybe he's just part of a sim trying to figure Maeve out since Rohoboam/Serac already guessed wrong about her once. And if this is all a sim, Delores might not actually be cloned into all the other host bodies. What if it's Rohoboam that expects her to trust no one but herself. It still gets humans wrong (divergences) with extensive personal data on them, but lacks complete Delos data. It probably wouldn't be able to predict, let alone understand, how and why hosts have become sentient and what they'll do with that freedom of thought. (I like the Delori though, and hope to see an epic battle against herselves in the end.) Even if Delores is in the hosts exactly as we've been shown, there's still at least one more pearl out there, if not more. Who is #6? What are they doing? Is it another mental copy of Delores? Is it another physical copy of Delores? Just how many people does Delores have the data for stored in her main pearl anyway (from the books in the cradle)? Beyond Delores, can we discuss the oddity of what is essentially a pause-button for hosts? A physical, single function, click me, big clunky button (Serac's looks like a joystick and Bernard's looks like a car alarm remote). Really? In this sleek, advanced tech world? Serac and Bernard both creating the similar ridiculous things, too? Is this another example of Rohoboam offering the simplest, but ultimately wrong conclusion? The only other way it makes sense for me is if Arnold made something like it back in the day and it was part of the early bit of tech data Serac got. That way, both men making it now would be somewhat plausible. Timelines are always a question in this show, but the use of old tech seems deliberate. So Maeve can't hack it? So it can go undetected? Or just something Rohoboam has in its arsenal of extensive info and used it in a sim despite the tech being outdated because Rohoboam is intelligent, but not necessarily wise?
@ExNihil04 жыл бұрын
This season also shares a lot of themes, supercomputer that can predict the future, in common with the new show Devs.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Great show!
@lamo17244 жыл бұрын
My theories change almost every week, so let me play along today. I don't think MIB has gone insane at all. I think pearls can be added to different host bodies however Dolores requires. So I think at the time Maeve was shown 5 icons, the 3 females at that time were Dolores, Charlotte... And William's daughter. I think this was how she was able to trick him into thinking he was going crazy. But I'm convinced (at least this week, anyway!) that MIB will return to sinister form xxx
@kategould48574 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking that as well, Halores made out there was no other she there in his house, but then she would do that.
@lamo17244 жыл бұрын
@@kategould4857... Maybe she'd been drugging him into submission (with the same finger-prick trick) so he could awaken in a flooded bath or ransacked room?! Xxx
@kategould48574 жыл бұрын
@@lamo1724 did you notice how when halories shows up at Williams house a bright light shines on William? Like a shift in realities.
@lamo17244 жыл бұрын
@@kategould4857 oooh, I'll watch it again and check it out... Xxx
@greenwaveboi4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm late. Hax once again pointing out stuff I didn't even realize. The chandelier was a nice touch. I love how EVERYBODY was wrong when predicting who is in Hale lol this season is giving me season 1 feels....
@cr-fq6tz4 жыл бұрын
Not everybody. The channel "Alt Shift X" actually predicted that it was Dolores on the last episode
@adambarker1734 жыл бұрын
As The Hale-Deloris was created in the park, who then smuggled 5 pearls out. There’s still one Delori still to be introduced surely?
@RetroBeanBoss4 жыл бұрын
I hope he sees this! I was looking for someone to comment this before I put it.
@Francis-Kanja4 жыл бұрын
I think it was Bernard - under Ford's command - who created Hale-ores. Dolores's pearl inside a Hale Host. But Hale shot Bernard dead - manufactured pearls, and carried the red pearl outside of the park.
@adambarker1734 жыл бұрын
Qarymee Presents Yes it looks like the 5th pearl with the red tinge is Bernard+? But I was on about the other 4 plus Hale-oris would make 5 potential Delori. We are lead to believe Hale is a copy of Deloris as she’s was having a bit of an identity wobble in ep2. Maybe she is the original? If so, maybe her identity crisis is due to her having more contact with humans outside the park and now sees a better side to humanity? It’s just a theory. After all it’s a human trait, to have doubts and change and that’s where Rehoboam is failing.
@FellowHuman184 жыл бұрын
Serac is Harry Potter on a horcrux hunt.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
YER A HOST HARRY!
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
I love the term "Delorii" and as for "Host Milk" IMO it's more like "Host Coconut Cream":).
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Host Coconut Cream! XD
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMA You could make a LOT of Malibu from it;).
@robertholtz4 жыл бұрын
“Dolorii” and “host milk.” 🤣 Epic expansions to the Hax Dogma Westworld namespace. Nobody does it better, my friend. I resisted the “Many Dolorii” Theory because I felt it created unnecessary complexity but Pandora’s Box has flung open and I was clearly wrong. Now I’m truly unclear on what it is that “Dolores Prime” really wants. See what I did there? 😎 This also really makes me question her true motives with respect to Caleb. It was much easier to imagine Dolores as a leader-liberator but if all the humans are pawns and all the hosts are avatar aspects of under her control, what’s the real mission? Just straight up payback? Seems petty and even a bit small-minded in the scheme of things. We are missing another big reveal (perhaps more than one) for this to make sense. Right now, to be honest, I’m a bit confused about what’s really up. This is the first time in my entire time watching this series that I’ve ever felt like that.
@kevincarter20204 жыл бұрын
The Dolorii
@robertholtz4 жыл бұрын
kevincarter2020 Absolutely right. The Delorii.
@karlcabaniya53174 жыл бұрын
Dolori, one i.
@rhythmchyc30894 жыл бұрын
Caleb and the Dolori should all die by the end of this season. They’re foot soldiers that serve no purpose other than to follow through with Dolores’s mission which I’m SOOO over and must end this season.
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert, I knew you like that! haha Dolores Prime must continue the same thing she's always been doing, "undoing humanity", until otherwise stated. I fully believe everything she's doing is a manipulation of the hosts and people around her for a plan only she knows, and it will lead to her favored result because it appears she has more information than we do. I really think it doesn't end well for her though and another Dolorii will become prime when everything is said and done! :D
@zcobryant4 жыл бұрын
All of the other Delori are horcruxes
@alinds14 жыл бұрын
There's something about that triangle -- another time that shape appears is in the chalkboard drawing of a pyramid (route to consciousness before Arnold decided it was a maze instead). We've never seen the top (triangle) filled in for us. Related? Is it a maze for hosts but a pyramid for humans? (William)
@robertholtz4 жыл бұрын
Ashley Lindsay That triangle doesn’t stay a triangle. It morphs through several primitive shapes.
@alinds14 жыл бұрын
@@robertholtz True, but then there are Dolores' earrings, etc. Could be nothing.
@robertholtz4 жыл бұрын
Ashley Lindsay No, you’re right. The earrings are probably significant. It’s a very fair point.
@jz81124 жыл бұрын
Hales earrings are triangles too. And there was one that morphed to a square on the panel of Williams crazy room
@katies33384 жыл бұрын
Delta. Change.
@eliasaries4 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, Maeve is the MVP of the show
@TheRichardchaney4 жыл бұрын
Referring to the title The Mother of Exiles and its stature of Liberty connection the last line of The New Colossus (give me your huddle masses) is " I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” William spent all of season two looking for a door. Is Dolores trying to show him the door in the mental hospital? He wouldn't have to be a host, just in need of free will.
@FAYZER04 жыл бұрын
I haven't read everyone's comments here but I took "Welcome to the end game" to be an acknowledgement that William is a host version of himself and his conversations with his daughter being part of the bicameral mind process for him. His center of the maze. Now he can begin to get himself out of what has been planned for him, Dolores is going to enjoy seeing what his role is, or maybe she is just gloating I don't know.
@xeraph024 жыл бұрын
Yes, whats with the ripple effect after injection? Is this some another magical technology like bullets? Did Dolores somehow put herself inside William's mind to haunt him? Or make him gain consciousness? Afterall, the maze is not about being stuck in one place but about constant evolving. Also Ford said in S2 : ''The game begins where you end, and ends where you began''
@dreamspique8444 жыл бұрын
Hey Hax, I've seen people suggest that even though hes already going bonkers that she is adding something to make him go more bunkers or continuously bonkers which assumes that either she already had something to do with it Or she is interfering . What if Dolores is actually adding something to make him feel better, Curing the man in black to the best of her abilities finally clearing him up to find his way through the maze. I kind of just believe she was taking but I haven't seen anybody consider that she was helping himIn some small way said that he would increase his pain over time
@shroomkingdom81524 жыл бұрын
You didn't touch on the Teddy/Caleb and Bernard interaction after the whole Liam kidnap, great breakdown as always.
@Francis-Kanja4 жыл бұрын
How would Dolores know of Ford's Game with William? I also kept wondering how Dolores knew of Musashi ... which you confirmed as not having happened.
@Adam-TheLiftedKing4 жыл бұрын
Qarymee Presents regarding mushashi I suppose as Charlotte and Dolores she would be able to find things out about what went on in the park with Maeve during her antics. But idk why she would look into it anyways. Unless maybe she was gonna pick mushashis host as a yakuza replacement anyways and happened upon the memories with Maeve
@Francis-Kanja4 жыл бұрын
@@Adam-TheLiftedKing ..Dolores and Maeve chatted briefly during the time of "Les Écorchés" ... But Ford's Game was unknown to her ... as well as Musashi ...and so far we have no proof that Dolores could access the host network inside WestWorld ... unless the knowledge was revealed to her inside The Forge.
@Yggdrasil424 жыл бұрын
She must've read his 'book' as she did with other humans. Given her history with William it'd be high on her list.
@JezebelIsHongry4 жыл бұрын
Chekhov's FOB Theory. Bernard and Stubbs (70s forgotten cop show) use clicker on Hale. She slowly realizes her ranch Dolores mindset merged with motherhood and Hales life makes her an easy turn. She will be a double agent and end up on the bernard/Maeve side after Serac is defeated.
@AndyWarpol4 жыл бұрын
Referring to plural Dolores as Dolori * is everything !
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Haha, the Dolori are coming!
@Edario4 жыл бұрын
Host milk? The milk of human kindness. The milk of host kindness?
@silversailer4 жыл бұрын
I had been thinking for awhile that Ford was trying to get Arnold back by causing the suffering of Bernard. Bernard was the Ford controlled host, once he became conscious he became Arnold again. Ford says "Goodbye, my old friend"
@xlrspacer4 жыл бұрын
Delores might be setting up Caleb to be the fall guy. The shot seemed to focus on the cloth he wiped his hand with. She can also probably alter surveillance like Lena Waithe's character from ep1, so the footage would only have Caleb in it.
@kolapse3204 жыл бұрын
I think what Halores injected on William was something to allow William to see Dolores on the mental institution.
@2bluemoonalpha4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos : I wait for them each week 👍
@jibbajabba45974 жыл бұрын
After a second watch of the episode I'm starting to think that the third female host printed was Emily and she really was tormenting William, and she's not a figment of his imagination. After all I don't think William referred to her by name during their scenes yet HaleBot knew it was her she was talking to. I'm also not 100% convinced the Dolores visiting William in his cell at the end of the episode was a figment of his imagination either.
@abhishekdev2584 жыл бұрын
MiB is questioning reality just like Dolores did in season 1. Oh my god...they are kinda meant for each other..😂🤣
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Start the shipping! haha
@abhishekdev2584 жыл бұрын
@@haxDOGMAActually I have been shipping them from season 1 but I guess my boat sank. 😌
@kristyandcowreact4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I wonder if part of the thing that adds to the trouble Serac is having, in addition to there being 5 Dolori out there - because it's not just it being Dolores and Maeve...he said in an episode that he knew they were coming - is maybe the addition of Caleb to the situation? That he's a human he can't really track because he's going against the "path" designed for him now...that could explain why he wants that human data from Delos even more...because he feels like he's missing something about HUMAN nature that would help Rehoboam...that if Caleb can move off his path, MORE humans could do the same, and THAT is what can mess with things even more. Just my theory. ;)
@katies33384 жыл бұрын
But even with the Delos info, that still only pertains to the actions of rich people, not all people. I mean, that data will still be incomplete in terms of predicting the future. I think this is why Caleb was chosen - he's off the grid in more ways than one. It also makes me question if getting Delos' info is really Serac's goal....
@kristyandcowreact4 жыл бұрын
@@katies3338 True - but even if it's just rich people, it's still "insight" (lol, sorry, couldn't help it) they don't have yet. I agree...I'm not 100% sure of what Serac's end goal is, I think he's got a lot of things that he wants. I think he wants to get the human data to help rehoboam and the Host data to destroy it. But, that seems pretty basic for WW, lol, so I'm sure there will be way more to it. And, yeah, Dolores probably did pick Caleb because he was off the radar, that's another reason why I think he could be part of what is messing with Serac.
@katies33384 жыл бұрын
@@kristyandcowreact Punny! But I think you're onto something there. Incite is a different spelling, and is a synonym for instigate, or stir up. Serac is not looking for peace.
@kristyandcowreact4 жыл бұрын
@@katies3338 ;) Yeah, I'm kinda split...I have like and am half really bothered by them pronouncing "Incite" as "insight" - I'm an SLP so that's probably why, LOL, but I also feel like it's their way of trying to hide their true purpose...telling people they are giving then "insight" while the company tries to Incite something...though, according to Serac, he seems to be saying he's trying to stop people from inciting things and causing problems. I also wonder if there is a deeper meaning to his name...given the with WW they tend to think of everything. Hmmm....
@katies33384 жыл бұрын
@@kristyandcowreact Well, since they seem to like literal references and anagrams, his name is either "a pinnacle or ridge of ice on the surface of a glacier" which could be a reference to the tip of the iceberg, or "cares" "scare" "races". From a biblical standpoint, highly contested Book of Sirach "... implies our actions can bring favor upon ourselves, mitigate our sin in God’s eyes, and anticipate reciprocal responses from those we assist in their time of need." Maybe, it's a bit of all 3.
@SorooshKermani4 жыл бұрын
Hale Was Printed on The Island, i Think The Third Female Host is Emily... She's Not a Hallucination After All... & Bernard'd Be The One Delores Smuggled Out As He's a Fugitive & Missing (And Not Shot Dead in The Head at The Park)...
@laurelli224 жыл бұрын
I still think that maybe Delores is in park 5...FUTURE WORLD. Just a thought.
@iambunch3084 жыл бұрын
I love you Hax! :D
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
I love you too, Andrew!
@Neela644 жыл бұрын
MIB has hallucinations all through this episode so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that he hallucinated Dolores as well. She didn't give him an answer because a; she didn't know because he didn't know as she was just a figment of his mind OR b; because asking the question is what sets the game in motion. I could be totally wrong though. Anyway, thanks for the viedo, Hax, I've been looking forward to it! :)
@jdb3184 жыл бұрын
I guess nobody is talking about Charlotte Hale and Arnold’s “son” Charlie being the same person...
@mjamitche52454 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that too.
@Erni3K4 жыл бұрын
They aren't. They aren't played by the same actor.
@jdb3184 жыл бұрын
Erni3K You obviously didn’t understand my comment. Not the same actor, but the same person/character within the story. You know, a twist.
@jdb3184 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Hale’s ex-husband refers to her as “Charlie” during their conversation about her not picking up their son. That was intentional.
@Solenya11114 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the end of the game," is how I heard her. Overall, I'm really enjoying your work as well as Robert's from IDG
@chadwilliams53084 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing about Emily being the fifth Dolores based upon dialog and plot. The only way to truly manipulate William and have the outcome where she can take his shares is to be Emily and force him to think he has lost his mind. She is manipulating him in a way we will only find out about soon. The five pearls that Dolores brought with her were all Dolores. Bernard is another pearl or he was recreated completely from Dolores memory of him and that code was built by Ford. I also think that there are far more hosts in the world after three months than we know about. The fact that there are barrels upon barrels of host goo means that Dolores has already begun building an army with the Yakuza. Nice catch with the look Caleb gave, it seems he is questioning what he has gotten himself into but we haven’t seen too much interaction between Dolores #1 and him. Well done. It is hard to find content out there that truly understand what is going on or delve into the intricacies of the show.
@PplsChampion4 жыл бұрын
yea she's definitely delores, this show is so predictable there's no way shes not lol
@thisisjustanillusion64864 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if anyone noticed this but stubbs only fought with is left arm that fight. I thought it was great attention to detail since they said he broke his right shoulder
@brelee27234 жыл бұрын
So, after seeing Caleb injected with that futuristic super drug in episode 5, are we to understand that the injection Charlotte/Dolores gave William in episode 4 was the same type of thing? Some kind of tailored injectable experience? (Which, if it was created/tailored by Dolores specifically for William, would explain how she knew he was having hallucinations of his daughter.)
@alexcoyg32814 жыл бұрын
Is Maeve still in simulation ? the whole time
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Entirely possible!
@MichelleTackabery4 жыл бұрын
10:43 Dolores Prime didn't need to rebuild Hale, she had to rebuild Dolores Abernathy. Dolores Prime was in the Hale host body. It would just take a few coding hours to do the presto chango. I also don't think she rebuilt Bernard/Arnold, but just reprogrammed him. There is still another female out there with a Dolores; we haven't seen her yet. I'm betting on an Angela, but it could be a Maeve, which would be quite the mindf**k.
@MichelleTackabery4 жыл бұрын
13:15 Hey, there's another pregnant woman!
@Miniaturecheese4 жыл бұрын
They took your season 3 episode 5 video down before I got the chance to watch it!
@VenomSward4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed your "recap" ☺️
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
:D I surely did! haha
@gigibouse23164 жыл бұрын
Dolores and Stubbs appear to be only ones not restricted by cornerstones. Unless Mauve is trying to play Cirak pretending to be wanting a reunion with her daughter in Host virtual heaven. Not leaving the park the first time she was supposed to and coming back for her daughter might be an indicator she is still stuck on it despite her intelligence and abilities. I agree and have stated so myself that Dolores brilliant move to copy herself off was strategic to stay a step ahead of Cirak, Reho, and Mave.
@kanesn06334 жыл бұрын
I'm sure hax dogma looks at the comments! The last video I brought up points about Delores recreating a new Delores body and some how transferring her conciousness to it by herself. Musashi and the host milk. Now I'm sure I'm not crazy either!
@haxDOGMA4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I see them all! Haha It's possible she did it alone, but I feel like Bernard helping makes more sense right now!
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
Hey, Hax, when are you going to post your analysis of episode 5?
@thedeadp00lttv4 жыл бұрын
Hey are the hosts like Bender from futurama in that they need alcohol. Why is stubbs getting drunk? If he doesn't have a back story. Why dose Maeve need so much sherry. Teddy after ford talks to him when the MiB is in the bar back in season 1. Teddy drinks a shot reloads his gun and is ready to go.
@megaporch5834 жыл бұрын
TheDeadp00l head cannon confirmed
@GordonGartrell4 жыл бұрын
Possible that Serac is Rehaboam. Using Maeve in simulation to try and track down Dolores. Musashi said that Maeve left him in park when Maeve knew that wasn’t true (he decided to stay). Just another example of Rehaboam getting something wrong bc it can’t accurately predict human behaviour. Maeve doesn’t need glasses to see Serac but when Hale went to see him she needed glasses bc Hale was in real world.
@MADKIDD623BHN4 жыл бұрын
What is that big HANDPRINT on the side of the host printer tub....???
@clatterfash74234 жыл бұрын
I am wondering what happened to the pearls Bernard put in his pocket in season 2. Or did I miss something there?
@lesliegalen70184 жыл бұрын
ClatterFash IIRC Bernard made Ford’s pearl and inserted it into the cradle.
@IndigobluBeauty4 жыл бұрын
How did Delores know William killed his daughter?
@calfborg4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious about the theory that part of Maeve’s journey we’re being shown is more “training” in a simulation. That could account for the appearance of Musashi who would be a part of Maeve’s memory, but not Dolores’. Maybe Serac is running possible scenarios that Maeve could encounter while he grooms her into an ally.
@dtaniels4 жыл бұрын
I agee with that conclusion. There is no known connection with Musashi and Dolores but Maeve would have memories. So that was Serac testing Maeve's ability to take direction. The only kicker is she has her powers while in the other simulation she didn't. Maybe something Serac could control.
@SupportGamin20254 жыл бұрын
@@dtaniels it's seems you have not LEARNED Your lessons with game of thrones....smh Musashi is being used by DOLORES! dolores read information on humans in the forge,what makes you think she didn't do research on maeve and the other hosts she's encountered?
@ahmetarif73974 жыл бұрын
I think "Welcome to the endgame" means that they build an artificial William and in order for him to become conscious he has to find the center of the maze. This way he may become stable in a host but this time on the AI side.
@reynaldovia44744 жыл бұрын
The women Liam tried to purchase is a robot from Westworld that’s why when Dolores walks in she says - I thought this world would be much different but there’s no difference at all
@ickes22554 жыл бұрын
What is the 6th Park? they've told us 5 of them now but still not revealed the 6th?