'Wha’ll be king but Charlie' - Scottish Jacobite Song

[@lucario2188]

A Magistrate that decided to stay in Edinbourgh wrote of the Prince entering, that there were more women than men in the crowd and that, public opinion after the Prince entered shifted in favour of the Jacobites and it stayed that way even after Culloden. In fact when people heard that the Duke of Cumberland was comming to recapture Edinbourgh they continued wearing Jacobite symbology, the Jacobite flower has a challenge to the goverment, he also wrote that the Prince hair was red and he was wearing the Royal Stuart Tartan plaid(The plaid of his clan) when he entered the city.

[@Sacrifice-Loyalty]

Great tune where ever you fall on the various sides!

[@richardcleveland8549]

A great tune - it'd be perfect for a segment in a quadrille.

[@emilybosserman2042]

1:15 I have a bit of a nitpick, the lyrics say Scotia but the subtitles say Scotland

[@globe0147]

Thanks man! ❤

[@JonRadtke-y7u]

It’s funny when the Scottish accent is so thick that you need subtitles

[@flyingsquirrell6953]

I love how the words that were actually said made me confused when just listening to the song I would not have had any trouble. Show the lyrics to an ESL and record their reaction.

[@Imperial_Britannia]

Yeah it’s Scots. When Middle English was still spoken (1066 - 1485) some of it developed into Modern English, and Scots came around, it’s like a blend of middle and modern English, so sometimes it seems like you can read, and it also seems alien. It’s a sister language of English. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

[@olekcholewa8171]

⁠It's extremely similar to English if you count it as a language, and extremely different from English if you count it as a dialect. I love it.

[@The_Christian_Cavalier]

We should have kept The House of Stuart and a strong Monarchy, even if it meant keeping James II.

[@hibernii]

God bless King James II.

[@The_Christian_Cavalier]

@debhin indeed. I never thought I'd say this, but: God Bless King James II! (Just a shame he was a Catholic but that doesn't give Parliament any right to depose him)

[@stanleypines1026]

Cringe popery. God save King William III

[@hibernii]

@@stanleypines1026 "Cringe popery" quite the zinger.

[@stanleypines1026]

@@hibernii Thanks Seamus

[@SanCreatividad-pd1pf]

Will soon gar mony ferlie means to bring lots of surprise.

[@MrGatonegroish]

@@SanCreatividad-pd1pf The subtitles are hogwash but I thought "gar mony fairly" meant "gather many (people) easily"?

[@W.M.Pitt1]

what's the name of the film?

[@Imperial_Britannia]

Bonnie Prince Charlie, 1948 for about the first couple minutes, the rest is from something called ‘outlander’ don’t know too much about it, just saw that scenes included the Jacobite army.

[@jacobitelivinghistory]

A very good film about the Jacobites would be 1964s Culloden

[@olekcholewa8171]

​@@Imperial_BritanniaBonnie Prince Charlie is actually good, Outlander is some love story crap from Netflix.

[@hipsterindietrash6105]

I gotta wonder with tunes like this, or tw recruitin sergeant or a few of the ethnically targeted american civil war songs. Like, were they really scottish or german or irish etc. Or was it just some englishman or american writing what they thought the people's accent was in a song to pander to them in an attempt to recruit them to one side or another? VERY few of the total folk songs got recorded from even the nineteenth century, when there was a wave of interest in doing so. So, to me, i often think that a lot of these specific ass irish and Scottish patriotic songs that relate to the english are, for lack of a better term, industry plants. Like, connaght rangers or that yankee eagle come to mind as tunes that probably someone working for the government penned and so that got preserved over something more organic. Anyway, just some thoughts

[@RickJaeger]

If Wikipedia is to be believed on this point, "The lyrics were written by Caroline Nairne (1766 - 1845)." And there is at least enough attested Scots language that we know it's not an obvious imitation by an unfamiliar foreigner.

[@twiddlerat9920]

Most Scottish songs like this were written by Scottish people

[@jameswoodard4304]

Wha'll be king but Charlie? Georgie.

[@Lord_of_the_City_of_Pillars]

King Charles? You mean King Charlie?

[@theinsectbros9067]

It sounds way too much like Teir Abhaile Riu (not Celtic Woman)

[@Yossef_tea]

Scotland is my best place

[@greyghost4448]

How about nobody becomes king and Scotland and England or Great Britain become a republic?