What 4J Studios Understood That Mojang Doesn’t...

[@kodekYT]

This video got WAY more attention than I expected and that also means a lot of people have been asking why the video was so short 😅 This video really wasn’t meant to be a typical Minecraft KZbin documentary but a shorter more straight to the point 4 minute video Thanks for watching and leave your comments below cause I do read all of them :3

[@psychwardpussyeater]

Brevity is the soul of wit man, others would have dragged it out to a 2 hour "video essay" so good job

[@ShibeYouTube]

:3

[@uliveulearnandregret]

all you need to know is that on the xbox 360 version of minecraft you can just look at the crafting table and press the inventory/craft button and craft by proximity just like Terraria has it, but you have to look at the crafting table

[@brightonslade8809]

Straight to the point? I'm sorry but i don't see any point that was made aside from you saying that mojang "can't do something" what is that something, what made 4j so different. Nothing in the video proved that, the only evidence i could find was those minigames and even then there are servers you can play for the same experience. I'm not mad or anything just confused, as all you did was waffle for four minutes straight saying mojang miss an opportunity, which is understandable but I'd like to know what 4j did and how there direction was better.

[@kodekYT]

@@brightonslade8809 damn just leave a dislike next time 😭

[@Morilix]

4J Studios knew something Mojang still doesn't know to this day. They knew how to make a actual high quality console port that doesn't make you die from nothing :)

[@justaguy2183]

Why do people always blame on Mojang and not Microsoft? They probably wanted to port console in general but they couldn’t due Microsoft

[@xenoxia]

Blame Microsoft, mojang hasn't changed much since notch was a part of it, ever since micorosft owned it, they've been controlling mojang, essentially forcing them to do these things

[@binksreviews]

Legacy was not some perfect, smooth-running glitch-free experience, be so fr.

[@bugatoli]

Compared to bedrock 4Js port feels PERFECT. I played a pot of it in the past and then I started playing bedrock after not having played for a while and I immediately felt like something was off. It didn't feel like how java does and didn't feel like console edition either. It just felt wrong

[@Insert6character4name.]

@@binksreviews With the exception of a bug with throwing loyalty tridents freezing your game sometimes, its performance is great, and most other bugs are useful or neutral so overall it pretty much is (coming from someone who hosts a server on legacy ps4 and has been playing primarily on the version for a while now).

[@Elgi72]

I always though 4J Studios put more love into Minecraft than Mojang ever will.

[@sidbutreal]

I don’t think it’s mojang, I actually think it’s Microsoft’s fault

[@Bugmultiverse]

@@rifter4478it’s not a joke. Current mojang is much worse than 4J studios

[@Noob-917yww]

​@@Bugmultiverseits microsoft

[@MagmaForce_]

​@@rifter4478greed and no consistency between old and new Minecraft

[@Ad1tputra]

I think it's Microsoft fault or both ig

[@typemasters2871]

So in summary, what makes Console better than Bedrock is -better graphics -more world types (amplified + custome flatworld) -inbuilt mini-game modes

[@Zvxers7]

And advanced world creation options

[@ProxiProtogen]

The classic textures are free on Bedrock...

[@PhantomOfficial07]

@@ProxiProtogen The programmer art texture pack is awful they haven't updated that in years. They didn't bother to make the new textures not clash with the old style and they don't seem to care

[@jvgradiz906]

And most of all NO IN GAME PURCHASES

[@ProxiProtogen]

@@jvgradiz906 there was some lol

[@ejsuperstar]

I miss the way 4j did menus. I struggle a ton to navigate the Bedrock Edition menus, crafting is a nightmare. I miss the old days.

[@artifactU]

the sound effects & visuals of the menus were awesome, the bedrock edition menus are ugly & i wish bedrock never happened

[@PassTheSnails]

@@artifactU the wooden clicking sound effect on bedrock menus actually has me malding. Idk, it’s just annoying as hell. I think they’re on java too

[@Napoleon_e2]

@@artifactU they aren't ugly, just simplistic, there is nothing that makes them ugly, nostalgia maybe?

[@Napoleon_e2]

crafting is the same as java, u can also just use the recipe book

[@artifactU]

@@Napoleon_e2 its called an opinion, there doesnt have to be a reason for it

[@pollo_470]

Just the fact that they put a tutorial world by itself shows how much effort 4J put into the game in comparison to bedrock imo

[@jrex0522]

the fact they made references to the community in each one shows more than that.

[@Napoleon_e2]

java also doesn't have a tutorial world, is the word you're looking for Mojang? because you really should get a life instead of shitting on a 30$ children's game

[@CJS3637_MforAone]

​@@Napoleon_e2 your getting upset at someone cause they acknowledged the fact that a small indie studio did a better job at handling the most sold game in the world rather than the studio that made it. You should shave and look in the mirror before saying someone else needs a life. Also. Your defending Java? The "kids game" that has a S@x mod? Get the fuck out of here 😂

[@honignoname98]

@@Napoleon_e2 wtf

[@Napoleon_e2]

@@honignoname98 wtf

[@z5vix]

4j studios actually knows how to make a optimized game that WILL run on all devices. There were like 3 glitches and all of them were extremely rare occurrences

[@emmet042]

(crafting duplication glitch has joined the chat)

[@DeclanUK]

@@emmet042 That's not a bad glitch though, that's something that you have to manually do. Compared to bedrock which will just kill you randomly for no reason

[@miimiiandco]

​@DeclanUK I've still never experienced that bug, even though I've played Bedrock for a long time on PC. I swear it's just a Console thing...

[@DeclanUK]

@@miimiiandco I played it on pc so you’re wrong

[@Ducky935]

Console edition worked for controller because the game was built with controller use in mind, on Bedrock using a contoller is so fuckin clunky and slow.

[@JadedRabbit559]

What I miss most about Console Edition is the tutorial worlds. In addition to getting you started on the basics of Minecraft, they were a great showcase for what was possible to build. Just thinking about the original Xbox tutorial world is really nostalgic.

[@Autumn-pr8ve]

It felt like there were endless possibilities, it felt so special

[@eg_manifest510]

finding the "secret village" to the left of the starting area and discovering a netherrack fireplace before even knowing what the nether was will always be a highlight of my childhood. My first house in creative mode was made with netherrack just cause my kid-brain thought it was so cool and mysterious

[@PatoBZH]

I remember the tutorial map with the Eilean Donan Castle, so grand

[@sprknGD]

yeah...

[@wsmoney]

​@@eg_manifest510 dont forget about that nether portal hidden inside Minecraft letters.

[@ItsAubreeyy]

Bedrock is literally just pocket edition but ported to everything

[@grim_diamonds7290]

ik I hate it

[@fenn_fren]

Insane to think they're charging you to run a mobile version of the game on your state-of-the-art home console.

[@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd]

@@slapshotjack9806 It's fucking pathetic, everything is monetised with no freedom to download mods or create servers without giving money to microsoft, you even have to pay for your limited skin customisation options

[@gammacxy]

@@slapshotjack9806 console wasnt moddable and the things you pay microsoft for arent even mods.

[@mool487]

@@slapshotjack9806 idk what u mean but bedrock runs worse and feels worse on console than the regular console version. mods are free on java and java has a larger community and more documentation and is actually made for pc. bedrock has none of those things so bedrock is worse. am i misunderstanding something? because java does everything bedrock does AND more so i dont see why anybody would ever use bedrock

[@DankPit]

Surprisingly they never touched on the UI and UX. It’s very apparent Mojang doesn’t know what a controller is by using the interface in bedrock

[@fl414r]

Microsoft* Mojang work only on Java version with not support controllers at all

[@xrafter]

​@fl414r Mojang have teams for java and bedrock and also for other games. The main developer for these game is mojang although they might not be the same developer teams under the nametag

[@ForsetiAE]

I prefer bedrock UI over console edition hands down. Took some getting used to sure but it's light-years ahead of console edition.

[@poxbox6729]

@@ForsetiAE You can't be serious.

[@ForsetiAE]

@@poxbox6729 I'm 100% serious. I get why bedrock has that moniker but that was years ago.

[@KirbywithaGun64]

The console versions also have one thing that Java/Bedrock didn't, manual saves.

[@That1Shroom]

well i did find a mod that does add manual saves for java, although its trying to replicate legacy edition sooo :)

[@wibs0n68]

Practically you save manually in Java edition by pressing escape Edit: It did aave automatically in Java 1.2.5, idk about recent versions

[@anthonypolanc0]

thats stupid , what if I want to press escape and not save?@@wibs0n68

[@4isbestnumber]

omg yes

[@emmet042]

Not only manual saves, but also manual "exit without saving." Helpful for quickly reseting worlds after you and your friends decided to blowup everything just because. I don't play Java, so maybe this feature exists there? I wouldn't know, and no, I'm not googling it.

[@KokoroFrog]

Can we just appreciate console edition’s menu/UI sounds tho? Like they were so satisfying and fit the vibe of Minecraft so well, I’d take them over Java and bedrock’s clicks and silence any day

[@BottledPoe]

Yesssssss

[@Red-lu1rx]

Fr. I recently played PS4 edition again to just hear those sounds of crafting and opening tabs, the sounds just felt so satisfying and so fitting back then, I didn't know of other versions back then so I thought this was just the game. And I found it perfect

[@jamesonthehills]

i will still never understand why bedrock is built over pocket edition…A BUGGY MOBILE GAME…over the better fleshed out console version….

[@DirectalYT]

It’s because of the light weight code that was used for pocket edition, I think it was c#

[@realPurpleOrb]

​@@DirectalYTthey both used c++

[@dooasf]

C++, C# was for the console edition. Surprisingly i found that most games based c# are more optimised than the c++ ones which is supposed to be better 🤷‍♂️ devs are lazy

[@emilydavidson8844]

It makes sense, they had crossplay between windows 10 and pocket, makes sense to have Xbox be there

[@Lord_Chibi]

@@emilydavidson8844 except it took them forever to make it good, and even now the edition has a bunch of issues

[@joshfoustcommunity8928]

I agree, Minecraft console edition is the best game on a technical level that’s unmatched from bedrock’s terrible mobile version, it will never truly see its full potential because of dealing with mobile platforms!

[@MakuO0o]

It’s not really the fault of the mobile platforms, it’s the fact that Mojang just uses mobile platforms as an excuse to never do what 4J has done, people have made have shown them that it’s possible to do what 4J did for all platforms and they just say “mobile has limitations sorry”

[@Roarywasnthere]

NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD A PC TO PLAY JAVA EDITION!!!!!!

[@emilydavidson8844]

Bedrock has rtx, enough for me

[@MakuO0o]

@@emilydavidson8844 bedrock pcs with nividia GeForce rtx graphics can use rtx

[@emilydavidson8844]

@@MakuO0o yes I have an rtx 3060

[@NotJustDarth]

The pixelated 4J, mojang and Xbox live logos are just pure nostalgic Just booting up the game and the first thing you see are those logos, didn’t mean anything back then but how it hits different

[@kidnappednapkin]

I grew up with ps3 minecraft and TO THIS DAY THAT IS THE BEST VERSION OF MINECRAFT

[@JouMaxu]

agreed

[@Mike-F117]

I agree. PS4 version ran better than ps3 version though. Until it became bedrock 🥲

[@NeilBooth]

Ay bruh u ain't played on my java edition server yet, so there's a chance to change that

[@humanoidshrek5524]

@@NeilBoothah yes your server alone will change his mind

[@EdgieAlias]

​@@humanoidshrek5524imo any Java server would lmao I just can't see the appeal of bedrock save for a few minor tweaks, like enchantment. That's not enough for me.

[@ceo_reuben]

"because we already knew that" caught me off guard lol

[@aaronMinceRaft]

Me too lol

[@YakultFan3]

I feel like console edition has better textures, or maybe that's just the nostalgia.

[@littlemoth4956]

It’s the nostalgia

[@Sprigatitto740]

It's probably nostalgia. But I love the aesthetic, even with 1.14 on PS4, you can still tell it's console edition

[@drjian6852]

The new textures are overly-detailed for textures that are only 16 x 16 pixels wide, they have too many colors and it hurts the contrast by making blocks look like you've put a blur filter over them, not also counting the rules broken in the general pixel art sphere (banding, noise pixels)

[@Sexgamer45]

It’s not the nostalgia, the old textures are just better. I know Minecraft can’t stay the same forever but the old textures were good, don’t get me wrong the new ones are very detailed but man… I miss the rocky texture of the nether. It was good castles, but when I convert an old world the castle just looks ugly.

[@YakultFan3]

@@Sexgamer45 yeah, what I hate is when the changed the ore textures, they looked good before they were updated

[@AwesomeDrawer2017]

Personally, I think they could’ve made Legacy cross platform, if they made some changes it could’ve happened

[@waytoobiased]

they would have needed infinite terrain for that

[@lumnary7635]

​@waytoobiased i think he meant having all the legacy editions be able to play together instead of only being able to play with those of the same console

[@nicobiggamer8338]

@@lumnary7635it would have taken a lot of time, as every console was having minecraft legacy at its own rythm, and game was made differently for every console (maybe im wrong in this, correct me if That’s the case). But it would be absolutely awesome

[@AnonTDegenerate]

Not really. Sure, both use C++ but it would take extensive reworking to make it fit into a phone. Let alone how things like IOS need special tools for C++ code to run.

[@Bolt451]

@@AnonTDegenerateno they’re talking about cross console not mobile

[@TheHeroicBlockhead]

I’ve made peace with bedrock since it came to Xbox in 2017, but legacy edition will forever remain the version of Minecraft that is most important to me. It’s also crazy how legacy edition is not very well known within today’s younger Minecraft audience.

[@wibs0n68]

Because it's legacy version And in an outdated console.

[@megaman37456]

@@wibs0n68 It's still better than any modern minecraft version.

[@TehBoiToad]

@@wibs0n68crazy how it STILL runs laps around bedrock, though

[@Tiggster-qr8mw]

Not very well known but fondly remembered

[@LandonEmma]

The shading and old textures of Console was so good we need a Java mod to put those shaders into Java

[@ArpaRec]

That exists. One for bedrock exists too. Just google 'minecraft console edition resource pack'

[@lukenerdy]

You can kind of do something similar, I forgot the video but there is a way to get something kind of close to it. Its for sure not the same but close enough if you want that experience kind of

[@lance_374]

I think there’s a mod pack that turns Java into console edition. I don’t know what it’s called tho

[@jblockminermc5401]

I love how the only 2 responses are from people who just say it’s possible but can’t remember, very helpful lol

[@lukenerdy]

@@jblockminermc5401 Yeah because I did forget and didnt bother to look it up

[@topheat2318]

Old console minecraft is just so much better than modern day bedrock. The old textures, short view distance, simplicity just had a vibe that was unmatchable.

[@23_lolface]

Agreed, I remember building a map and I called it "haoutested house" (It was supposed to be haunted house)

[@sealingfan6889]

The Mario world on the WiiU Minecraft was one of the best things back in the day. Really loved that version.

[@dreadhavoc]

Oddly enough, despite growing up playing pocket edition due to a lack of a PC, I always found the Xbox 360/PS3 variants to be the most nostalgic to me. Maybe its the fact that a lot of youtubers i watched played on those versions rather than Java edition. Idk

[@LueLucifer]

Nope, I watched DanTDM only & played the Xbox 360 version.

[@vinsplayer2634]

Maybe it's because on pocket edition you must play the newest version, and legacy console edition is definitely closer to early pocket edition than the newest versions of bedrock edition.

[@stellaviewer9849]

0:52 I did not think the 360 version was the cheap version back then, but that's because I grew up with Pocket Edition (aka the cheapest version). I just saw both the PC and console versions as massive upgrades because they both had a lot of the content my Minecraft did not have. I also did not watch KZbin for people's opinions back then. I would just watch SMG4 Super Mario Bloopers, YTPs, and the old Minecraft KZbinrs. Maybe if I was a teenager back then who owned java, I might have agreed with this sentiment.

[@inreallife530]

The Bedrock experience is crazy bugs, crashes, 0 fps, dumbass dlcs and laggy ass servers.

[@cassepeia]

Literally, it's almost impossible to have fun playing the game. And the lag spikes still exist in 1.20.81 :(

[@RafanFarooquib]

@@cassepeia Bro i thought the lag was just me on 1.20.81 in cubecraft and hive after using texture packs it keeps lagging sometimes

[@knuckallixyoboi9324]

4J understood the community the best. They made features so easy to use, a tutorial world for every title update and they all were absolutely amazing, even the texture packs they made were so amazing. The halloween and fantasy texture packs were my favorites. And to this day i still say the legacy console versions are way better

[@Darkwolf_1017]

Console feels like it was made by people who loved the game, and understood it. Bedrock feels like a cooperate cash grab. And Java is an in between

[@TheTrynyxShow]

Console we made memories, Java were having fun, Bedrock were raging and hating Minecraft

[@pizzaparker.]

I always felt like Minecraft Bedrock looks like a mobile game

[@BraiaCorno]

bcoz it is

[@SmitePlayz1]

so does java.

[@pizzaparker.]

@@SmitePlayz1 do you think so?

[@valleyforgeproductions]

It IS a mobile game. They ported Pocket Edition to console and Windows and called it good

[@followupcloniboies4490]

​@@valleyforgeproductionsI hated when they did that...also, bugs became a lot more frequent on Bedrock Edition as well EX: (split screen is a buggy, zoomed in mess).

[@Ivegotsomewater81]

Makes sense why the console ports of Minecraft are incredible, 4J also did the amazing port of Oblivion on PS3.

[@thebepsusdog9227]

The part where you mentioned that anyone who grew up with Legacy edition can recognize screenshots taken from those games, mmm absolutely brilliant. I grew up on XBOX 360 edition and could tell apart by the shading and saturation if it was XBOX ONE, 360, other, mobile or Java. I have never seen anyone point that out before!

[@chrislowles]

Console Edition always felt like it was stuck in time (in a good way), they weren't getting much mob and item crossover and the color tone being closer to the beta versions makes it a good time capsule without having to actually use og Java Edition.

[@connorjohnson7834]

On the ps4 you can easily go between modern bedrock and 'legacy' which is forever at the 1.14 update, and it looks and plays so much better than the current bedrock.

[@pedroxcz]

yeah but only if you have the disc

[@minedude33]

I miss being able to preview Mash-Up packs on the Xbox One Edition. You could play for as long as you wanted, but if you left the world or logged off, it would restart and you'd have to preview again.

[@finngomezgamer]

Who’s here after the reforj announcement? (Basically 4j studios new spiritual successor to Minecraft console edition)

[@DEIKO19]

a shame that us console players have to play bassically a port of a mobbile game on our consoles, all the consoles together and mabye even pc is a great idea, as long as it is built using legacy as a base, but phones will only harm it due to developers having to lower the graphics and other stuff to make it work on phones bedrock is just pocket edition by another name in a platform where it compleatly wastes it´s capeabilities, see a new, updated cross platform legacy console edition to all other consoles may be a pipe dream, but hey, dreaming is free!

[@RafanFarooquib]

ur dreams and everyone's will come true soon dw

[@DEIKO19]

@@RafanFarooquib i also hope so comrade...

[@Napoleon_e2]

yall need to know minecraft really wasn't made for consoles at all

[@michaelchance6125]

Actually I think Java is already stopping being the main version. When you play bedrock the title just syas Minecraft, but on Java it says Minecraft Java.

[@JoBot__]

Java Edition will forever be the main edition and to say otherwise would be a lie. Bedrock Edition, at its heart, is a mobile port.

[@BloopersINCjr]

@@JoBot__ Mojang Gaslighting moment

[@Copperkaiju]

Microsoft probably makes more direct money from Bedrock because of downloadable content but most of the free advertising seems to come from people playing modded Java on KZbin. Without Java both Microsoft and Google/KZbin would probably lose alot of money. Microsoft probably wants to leave Java behind but can't afford to and is trying to gradually push people onto Bedrock so that it's more financially viable. I'm not an expert but that's my theory.

[@justaguy2183]

@BlooperslNCjr it’s not a gaslight, Mojang themselves said that they won’t stop updating Java

[@BloopersINCjr]

@@justaguy2183 I know, but I never said mojang would stop updating java I’m just implying that there trying to make it seem like the definitive MINECRAFT experience is bedrock because they simply titled it MINECRAFT without Bedrock Edition being below it

[@TheOddHog]

It's sad to me that the Minecraft so many people know by default is a bad port of Pocket Edition. I've talked to a bunch of people I know irl about the game and most of them didn't even know whether they had Bedrock or Java, or even that the two versions were different. Microsoft has replaced the game we all know and love with a worse version that they can milk for money, which is really sad

[@damiancho7977]

Okay you are overthinking it

[@damiancho7977]

Also bedrock is the most popular version of Minecraft and not everyone plays on a computer, I don’t know why it’s sad to you

[@en--ev]

​@@damiancho7977 That is exactly what's happening. They are replacing Java with Bedrock because it is massively more monetizable. And in the process of making it more monetizable, they are also making the game infinitely worse. Just look at what they did to Bedrock mods recently. Less player freedom = more money.

[@lpfan4491]

@@damiancho7977 People who don't play on PC tend to dislike Bedrock more. It is only "more popular" in statistics because it is the only version available on most plattforms.

[@damiancho7977]

@@en--ev they arent replacing java with bedrock?

[@fiatlux8828]

My issue is the crafting system on console and mobile both got gimped hard. 4J's system looked cumbersome at first but worked well with controllers. The old PE mattis system didn't even look like Minecraft, but it was proportional and way more ergonomic when playing with thumbs. Crafting just feels tacked on and isn't ergonomic on both anymore

[@Kirill17]

Console edition had one thing that greatly helped it become superior too. It respected java. It understood its position and did not try to be a thinly veiled replacement. It knew its place and worked well within its bounds and become exceedingly great within. It wasnt THE Minecraft, but an extension or retelling of it.

[@SGuy453]

As a PlayStation user, the best thing about the better together update was being able to move worlds from your PlayStation 4 to PC, and with the option to transfer PS3 worlds to PS4, i was able to move some of the worlds i have stored from back when i was a kid and archive it to my pc, forever available for me just go back and re-experience childhood memories. Yea, it feels different, but still a good way to preserve memories.

[@AnonTDegenerate]

While I love bedrock edition, it's the majority of the player base's version and allows for crossplay which is huge, there definetly needs to be some more stand out features. You have snowy trees, the cauldrons, and the wither which people love. But apart from the bugs being fixed ofc, one thing they need to do is have like tutorial worlds again and make them specific to each platform on bedrock edition, maybe with skins as like a distinction.

[@TheBlackRose666]

There was a certain magic that happened when playing on the OG Xbox 360 edition of minecraft... From the music to the earliest blocks, it was truly an experience especially with friends

[@Irobert1115HD]

i think many problems that minecraft hs rn come from the fact that someone higher up (likely above mojangs leadership) wants bedrock and java to the equal so the can end the java edition.

[@PiesAkaros]

That's probably microsoft I think

[@UnicornLupus]

if they end Java, I can imagine a mass exodus of the playerbase considering Java is the most customizable of the two, and it’s the original version. Not to mention people would just archive the older versions of Minecraft

[@v_35hr]

you cant explain, but you can feel when a game is made with love I just randomly installed Minecraft in my old PS Vita, 480p, 30fps and struggles to generate world, but I had more fun and have been playing it more frequently than the world in my pc with 110 fov, +100fps and shaders

[@dawokenone47]

When I think about it now, I feel if 4J had the funds, access, resources and time, they would’ve found a way to have player made mods be built into the game beyond the limitations of what we got.

[@Arizonadietgreentea]

I could go on for hours about how this stupid 360 port changed my life

[@HFDarkGames]

Honestly in disbelief rn and what I’m wondering is cuz c814 got kicked out did 4j get abandoned

[@kodekYT]

I’m not sure tbh, but it’s very likely that 4J weren’t told about bedrock and their version being discontinued since just months before they were teasing future updates and minigames

[@HFDarkGames]

@@kodekYT now I feel Microsoft is hogging all the credit think of it c814 got kicked out because he wouldn’t share him music with Microsoft and then they still use it and Microsoft is acting like they did everything with bedrock when really they took features from the old editions

[@龗]

@@HFDarkGames who tf is c814??? it's C418

[@HFDarkGames]

@@龗 got a bit mixed up it’s hard to keep track when you just well I don’t even know anymore

[@HFDarkGames]

How many likes is this getting lol

[@TechComplexity]

my hot take is that xbox 360 is better than an RTX 2934023948203498240398 92381203498109482309482048203GB RAM CORE i192308129312 PC . i booted up a world on 360 superflat with 7 layers of tnt and lit it up and suprisingly it didnt crash

[@BloopersINCjr]

The game try’s its best not to crash by limiting the amount of explosions and block updates at a time to avoid a crash do the same with a superflat but with sand and air blocks with no bedrock below it then break a sand block the sand that falls will slowly do so with a few at a time until they despawn (or reach the bedrock floor and become solid again) in the void so that the game doesn’t crash

[@cidlucien5254]

Idk what point you're trying to make here, i think you're trying to say preformence on 360 is better then pc??? Java isn't exactly the best coding language for games and bedrock is optimized for phones so they look worse compared to the 360 port which was designed to run on a 360.

[@TechComplexity]

just a joke man 😂

[@OldMan4Nostalgia]

@@TechComplexity a terrible one tbh

[@maddicattyryan]

I like how it was actually optimized for each console. Now it’s the same exact copy paste no optimization for specific consoles

[@YokaiPlushAdventures]

Nice Video! I grew up playing Xbox 360 edition and it just feels like a great indie game without trying too hard to be better than Java edition. Keep up the good work!

[@Greenboi32]

I can't tell if it's nostalgia talking, but Legacy Console really was the best way to play Minecraft.

[@paiyanou]

Well, I didnt grow up playing legacy minecraft, but once I played one of them, i instantly fell in love lol - I just love those versions, the sound effects, the ui and it just generally feels better to play than bedrock edition (the version i grew up with)

[@cats824]

Overall, the solidity of console edition was better. When they replaced it with bedrock, they made a horrible mistake in my opinion. I think they should of made Bedrock feel and look like Java before making the replacement. This kinda reminds me of the 1.9 Update, and how it split the community when it came to PVP. Overall, so far I believe Bedrock will never replace Java Edition until they decide to make a move to fix that issue. And that's likely never gonna happen now because of the choice they made back when they replaced LCE, all we can do is wait on them, or the community makes an alternative. There is actually been some work with a decompilation of legacy console edition, so I can see a revival of it. I saw some netherite mod for it, and a mouse & keyboard mod, so yeah, do what you will with that information.

[@waytoobiased]

they’re working on making Bedrock more similar to Java. It’s been happening slowly, but overall they’re way closer than they were 5 years ago pretty soon, the biggest feature difference will be spectral arrows

[@ItsPotato7520]

I am glad that I have Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition right now. I am NEVER going to sell that Minecraft version.

[@Xilivian]

A 4 minute video about a guy stumbling around his words, repeating the title of the video over and over, just to end it while never actually properly addressing whatever point he ever was trying to get on to stating. Amazing. Definitely on THAT side of KZbin, again.

[@AdmiralSloth]

Yeah I'm a bit confused. What even was the point of the video I feel as though it wasn't really articulated well enough

[@caydenph2741]

2:05, he did address?

[@PeruvianPotato]

I came here for an interesting perspective regarding a game I grew up with and all I got was just another generic "Bedrock sucks" video

[@jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox]

Honestly, console Minecraft n' Java around that time was peak Minecraft. I really miss those older versions, man. I miss when Minecraft was fun for me and when I had friends to play it with. Now they've all either drifted away, aren't interested in it anymore, or just can't find the time.

[@adelaideaux]

Fun fact: 4J makes smashing ports consistently, for example Perfect Dark for the Xbox 360.

[@yoshiswagdust]

their banjo ports dont get enough love they are very good

[@DeusVult838]

@@yoshiswagdust I love Banjo

[@SGT_Squid_Dog]

Now THIS is the Minecraft I grew up with. It was perfect. It had everything and more. Minecraft as it is today will always be inferior to it's predecessor created by 4J all those years ago. There will never be another version of Minecraft more perfect than 4J's, not Mojang's.

[@AGZhark]

It's ignorant that so many people only know Legacy Console Edition as just on Xbox 360. It was also on PS3 and ESPECIALLY the WiiU.

[@C6KSystem]

And psvita.

[@xaropy]

@@C6KSystem even on psvita?

[@PeruvianPotato]

Hi buddy!

[@MaQuGo119]

Mojang needs to stop making spinoffs and focus on the OG

[@user-hz4tc2pf3x]

4:04 There is a bedrock experience. It's main characteristics are: - buggy asf - insane stuttering on pc and mobile - microtransactions everywhere - as opposed to java being controlled by the community, bedrock is controlled by Mojang/Microsoft

[@LoremIpsum1919]

@FirefoxFan98 Operating system doesn't determine lag

[@Saaaahdoood]

Bedrock edition is a joke. I get being able to play on all devices, but they refuse to do anything that won't work on a 2012 phone. The funny part is in 2012 it was POCKET EDITION, which was even better than bedrock...

[@Azraelden]

man loved 360 minecraft playing with friends after school making friends in school over a game.

[@meerkat5818]

Mojang fell off after Notch stepped down

[@kahale]

3:33 is the answer to the title

[@Scudmaster11]

3:24 .. its so true

[@VividDread]

Honestly in my personal opinion, Minecraft is Minecraft, I don’t judge people based on the versions they play as I myself play Bedrock, Java, and the legacy console editions. Along with having some hours in Minecraft dungeons and a bit in Minecraft story mode! I never had any time in Minecraft earth and haven’t gotten legends yet since I kinda want to wait for it to go on sale, I still don’t think there is any bad versions of Minecraft! At the end of the day you can do whatever you can dream of that’s what the game was designed to do! It’s supposed to be really fun and an experience for all! Do some versions have more bugs than others? Yes! Does that truly affect the gameplay and fun factor? No! Sure some bugs suck but all games have them, it’s learning to overcome them that makes you feel good, plus with things like mods and stuff you can create brand new experiences within a already great game! Minecraft is and forever will be my favorite video game of all time, doesn’t matter what version you play just have fun! And as one last side note yes I’m not excluding education edition either, that had some good concepts in it and some of the stuff still holds up to this day! Does Microsoft owning it now make differences? Yes but at the end of the day it’s always gonna be Minecraft, if you don’t like one version play another and you can always revisit older versions if you really want to! They each have their own unique style and concepts like bedrock having customizable skins and Java with mods! Just have fun, play Minecraft, and have a great day!!

[@biteingcobra363]

I feel like you should have gone more in depth with this video. Give some examples and go into those examples and see what they did right from a user, gameplay, and game design, perspective as well as a player perspective. Go over the different ways 4J split from majang and the ways they stuck to mojang. Maybe make another video on this topic in the future that goes over the strengths that are present in LCE while acknowledging its faults and the bugs that could be considered worse than bedrock. Great video overall I just wish I went more in depth on the points being made because otherwise it feels more like a nostalgia trip.

[@cosmicdragon9237]

God, I've realized that bedrock can run at 10 fps on xbox one because of the millions bugs it has, while legacy was really stable on xbox 360

[@tungstentitan]

People say that i like old textures because of the nostalgia and rose tinted glasses, thing is i really do like the older textures more. Since the update aquatic released and changed the textures ive hated how they looked and never changed my stance, i even downloaded the old textures with a texture pack and suddenly, im able to enjoy the game. Sometimes people just dont like the new best thing and are comfy and happy with what they have, that for me being the old textures.

[@excellent_o_excrement2460]

So beautifully put in such a short video, thank you for expressing something I too have noticed but never been able to fully articulate myself.

[@chrono9503]

I never understood why people say bedrock sucks. Sure, Java is better, but that doesn't make bedrock bad. Its like 95% identical to Java.

[@Elijahlikechicken]

People say it’s filled with glitches. And while they do exist, it’s blown out of proportion.

[@MasterMCGS]

the overall experience is worse, specially in survival. the movement. the mechanics, how redstone works, accesibility to mods, etc etc. and this comes from a former mcpe player (i now play java, bedrock on pc and bedrock on phone)

[@chrono9503]

@@MasterMCGS The only change to movement is that you have to sneak to shield.

[@MrBrineplays_]

​@@MasterMCGSAs a former mcpe player who played for 7 years before getting java, I agree, bedrock sucks. Skeletons have much shorter shooting interval, shields don't immedaitely work, zombies have a larger range, mobs spawn in bigger groups, you randomly take damage, you can't play with mods, you can't switch texture packs while in game, everything is saturated, all mobs have larger range, endermen can still teleport even if they're riding on other entities, it lacks a lot of java features like the debug menu, it feels clunky, and lot more.

[@MrBrineplays_]

​@@chrono9503Shield doesn't instantly work though, it takes 1 second to work

[@lythough7749]

Java edition is not perfect, if it was mojang wouldnt have made more editions to begin with.

[@T1DsLayer628]

As a someone who’s first Minecraft years were on the ps3 back in 2013ish, the console edition feel can never be replicated, which is something so good about the ps4 version of the game which allows you to switch between bedrock and console. Aside from that though, I played console bedrock for a while until I recently started playing Java. Frankly, if you just like the survival experience of the game (no mini games, servers, maps, etc), I’ve noticed that regardless of what edition I play, it’s still the same experience. I was never someone who enjoyed even the texture packs on console edition, let alone any mods or changes to the game. While java is superior in many, many ways, if one is just looking for a survival experience, with maybe a friend or two, you get the same impact on Java and bedrock.

[@thatrandomredengine9430]

Minecraft is already the most popular video game of all time. They did it. So why are they trying to make Bedrock and Java the same? Java should stay its own thing and Bedrock should go into a different direction. I think of it more as a diversity of the game, rather then a “of this version sucks imma play this version” cause that’s not what it should feel like.

[@Manueltion15]

I really like Minecraft Bedrock on PlayStation. I know people say it’s bad, but I’ll still be playing it for years to come

[@Rovant]

I completely agree with the aesthetic part. I own both Java and Bedrock but the UI of bedrock is so much worse (essentially they just ported the mobile UI onto pc). I used to have the Xbox 360 version and it was very well stylised and so iconic that I get nostalgic just seeing it. Not to mention the input lag on bedrock and how everything you do feels 'delayed'.

[@CPU_M_Rossi]

Bedrock had its name changed to just Minecraft cause Bedrock is on more platforms and they wanted people to know that it's cross play on all those platforms cause its just Minecraft. And Java got the Edition cause its a PC thing.

[@SuperNerdAdamsGarage]

Mojang doesn't have any control over what they do anymore, it's all Microsoft

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

Not true. Both former and current employees have said that Micro has little hand over them.

[@SuperNerdAdamsGarage]

@@EmperorPenguin1217 They're forced to say that

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

@@SuperNerdAdamsGarage I would probably agree if former employees weren't also saying they had little hand

[@matheuscabral9618]

good video! 👍 I just think java doesn’t necessarily need to be the main version forever, I think if they did another version but that was actually good and not made for cellphones it could replace java and make everyone happy aswell

[@Totasfunnynumber]

Amplified and customized superflat worlds are something I wish Mojang brought back, along with the ability to make FIREBLAST wands on anvils

[@Neeek_]

minecraft nostalgia heads will convince themselves into thinking things like no FOV slider was a positive thing

[@richardcheese6161]

That's because it was a positive thing

[@Napoleon_e2]

@@richardcheese6161 you're a prime example

[@richardcheese6161]

@@Napoleon_e2 you wouldn't get it

[@Guyperson011-fc9eu]

I miss 4j studios console edition and I still play it to this day on my ps3, except for around last years when I accidentally corrupted and bricked my entire console and lost my 9 year world, I really wish mojang would just simply delete everything but Java edition and make Java edition good again, LIKE WTF WHY ARE THEY ADDING A FUCKING TREE MONSTER, GO BACK TO THE PVP UPDATE AND JUST STOP UPDATING THE GAME!

[@SteveFromMinecraftMovie]

I honestly don't see the appeal on bedrock, when ever I play it it feels like a more lazy version of Minecraft console edition but you can play across multiple platforms and different consoles, the OG Minecraft xbox one/360 edition that I played was clearly well thought, specially the tutorial worlds, dam those where cool, and they really helped me to learn how to play the game. Minecraft bedrock just have some random annoying glitches that usually kills the players out of no where. I also always thought that 4J studios would put a lot of more love into their Minecraft version.

[@waytoobiased]

the crossplay is why they did it - fewer versions means simpler development, too also Bedrock has infinite terrain like Java sooooo

[@SteveFromMinecraftMovie]

the infinite terrain thing I would say is just an excuse, come on let's be real the infinite terrain thing could have been a simple implementation, let's be real Microsoft only did this for the money, they make way more money from the Minecraft store than they did with 4J's version. The crossplay is also a stupid excuse since they made and have put a lot of assets into other useless games such as Minecraft Earth that could have easily been used to develop these versions, not mention that it wasn't even Moyang who developed this versions it was 4J studios mostly. 5120 × 5120 blocks It's still a massive world. @@waytoobiased

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

@@waytoobiased Yay, big files... I am running out of storage.

[@currypenguin]

Legacy Edition was so peak. The tutorial worlds, mash-up packs, minigames...

[@nathansnively1537]

Bruh, the bedrock hate is insane. It's the more commonly played version, and is virtually identical to casual players

[@ninja_tony]

Exactly. I play Java more NOW, but I started on bedrock before I even knew there were different versions, and constantly got hate from people for so many things. There are a ton of areas where bedrock is BETTER than java. They each have their pros and cons, but people always like to act superior, which is childish.

[@smhsophie]

because it’s ass

[@pollinete7704]

​@@ninja_tonyJava and bedrock are both a mess anyway

[@Clyde_E]

​@@ninja_tonybut we are talking about the console edition in this video not java

[@Arizonadietgreentea]

Been playing 360 edition before I go to bed. The feeling that game creates is very unmatched, I can’t even put words to it, I’m just glad I can kinda revisit those days.

[@absolutezero9507]

Through texture packs you can get bedrock to look just like legacy console with performance better than java. Bedrock is more optimized and frankly more convenient

[@TheTrynyxShow]

The point is people like me who have access to all three versions of Minecraft will look at Java and see a fun playable game, look at legacy console and see a nostalgic enjoyable game and look at bedrock and get no enjoyment out of playing it. When given the choice NO ONES gonna pick a game that looks and preforms awfully over two loved versions. Legacy console will always have a place in my heart cos its what I grew up with. Legacy console is the first look at Minecraft i got, Java is what I grew up watching all my favorite KZbinrs play and bedrocks a newer version that no one likes that just invited itself to the community

[@YouTubeGoji]

This video is actually great! New sub >:) Tbh I like hearing about people talking about console edition because I didn’t grow up with it, so I feel like I missed something, BUUUUUUUT I AM THE GUY ADDICTED TO SKYWARS… like on the hive because I like bedrock pvp a lot :I But console edition still sounds fun :D

[@unknownduck025]

The ability to quit without saving, being able to actually pause the game, and not requiring an internet connection to change my damn skin was always nice on legacy console edition

[@BasementDweller_]

The only thing I liked about the console edition is that the vibe felt similar to Java. Bedrock still feels better to play. It’s more smoother and has a better color pallet that makes the console edition feel cheap.

[@downloadableram4212]

Atrocious take

[@AmyCherryLMAO]

bedrock's controls are like resident evil tank controls to legacy, and bedrock is nearly impossible to play split screen while retaining functionality (second player's character model collapses in on itself, the third goes invisible, etc)

[@Jpkpmabes]

I do think Java is better then bedrock but I feel like bedrock is a good alternative for people who can’t afford, or don’t want a computer. Minecraft is Minecraft. No matter what you play on, ITS. STILL. MINECRAFT.

[@black-gs8nk]

I love bedrock edition so much

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Have fun paying money for some low quality Skibidi toilet mod

[@erichudson205]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xdthere are free Addons you know. Just go online. Also, are you saying that you used a skibidi toilet mod in the first place.

[@Poobler295]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xdokay he will it is his opinion and yours is different which is fine

[@black-gs8nk]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd You know the marketplace isn’t the only place you can get mods right?

[@black-gs8nk]

Also I just play vanilla Minecraft no mods

[@valthenvega2434]

“You’re just jealous I’m getting my own movie and you’re an annoying character in an annoying movie”

[@jackcraftsolar]

I hate people that are like, oh bedrock sucks, like why can't we just say there equal, instead of just making everyone mad.

[@call_dawall9131]

It’s a buggy mess, and Mojang is literally screwing people over since you can’t even buy Java on consoles. There is so much different, that a dedicated update for parity still wouldn’t be enough to make them equal.

[@jotaeanimations6183]

I play bedrock but I have to admit it’s pretty buggy.

[@jackcraftsolar]

@@jotaeanimations6183 IT IS BUGGY 😂

[@jackcraftsolar]

@@call_dawall9131 yeah it would be hard, or literally impossible because bedrock is on c++ and java is in Java of course.

[@jackcraftsolar]

@@call_dawall9131 I don't know if my reply went back pls reply saying it's there if its there and if you say it's not there I will rewrite it.

[@Awesomeplayer98]

Perfect opinions on Bedrock and Java I 100% agree

[@RiverLee-ky3kg]

Personally as a cheapskate without a father bedrock is infinitely better, and honestly I don’t care about video quality in a game, only memories

[@I_am_in_your_castle]

I just wished mojang would fix the many bugs that bedrock edition has, some of them exist for years and they don't do anything about it :(

[@jacks559]

What’s that got to do with being a cheapskate? You still have to pay for the same crappy unoptimised game on each platform you get it on.

[@RiverLee-ky3kg]

@@jacks559 PlayStation doesn’t give me free perks with their PS+ and PS+ is like 30 dollars and Xbox ultimate is 17$ basically I just can’t afford a new console

[@DooritoJames]

The Legacy Editions will forever be the greatest version of Minecraft

[@IncognitoMan-jd1qk]

Your kind of talking trash about Bedrock. even though it may not be as complex as Java, it’s really good at some things Java can do at all, like cross platform. Idk if this comment is necessary for what you are talking about but, just putting it out there.

[@randomgamer123-fz1qr]

the 4J logo reminds me of something💀

[@chewy99.]

Bedrock doesn’t suck bruh how much of it have you played? The one bad thing about it is it looks a little oversaturated. I’ve played for years and never had issues with bugs.

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Have fun paying money for Skibidi toilet mod hahaha

[@happygofishing]

bedrock is fucking trash made for Ipad toddlers. Minecraft Gentile edition lmao.