WHAT A MESS! - The insane history of Rania/ BP Rania/ Blackswan (Ft. former members)

[@ploopy678]

This video took AGES to make (you can tell by the different bedsheets in the background that I basically refilmed and rescripted this video MANY times and I also forgot to wear makeup for one of the retakes hahah).... so I'm sorry for the delay, but thanks for being so patient! Thanks once again to Yina and Namfon for helping me with this video! Full interview with Yina and Namfon are on my Patreon: www.patreon.com/ploopy678 Be sure to check out Namfon's social media here: Instagram: instagram.com/kontiddbaan/?hl=en KZbin: kzbin.info/door/OmWTRbhh-aHgfGDAxwS6pg Yina said she'd prefer to keep her socials private :) Be sure to check out ORANGE JUICE THE BRAND here: glnk.io/ww45/ploopy67810​ (Use Code PLOOPY10 for 10% off!) Grace's interview with Alex: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZojJmHVql9OAhas Adeola's video about Alex: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH-4g3Vvert9bNk&ab_channel=AdeolaAsh

[@meadinagacha]

Yes finallyyyyyy

[@TheBestCat1290]

I was kinda really annoyed but I guess now that you had to do all that I actually thank you for doing this

[@kyokugo6460]

I follow Rania since they were called Rania and I have to tell you this 2 parts are amazing, We fans knew that DR Music was neglectful but we couldn't do much, is good to know our deductions were very true. Your effort is valorated very much

[@megamemes2573]

U must be tired. Go to sleep

[@iluvprettygirlss]

I hope you take rest

[@theeorangeofthyorangetree]

Seems like C is the longest lasting member of Rania 😭😭😭

[@ElenaSi]

lmaoo true

[@bashnavichapai4877]

True lamo

[@halimsusanto8081]

So true

[@qi.-.]

C should just debut in rania HAHA

[@melisacaceres8740]

Yees ahahaha

[@coolsk8r]

And we thought Cube was the most unprofessional company ever

[@BtsArmy0504]

U r right i also thought that but its much worse than cube.....

[@zigzag00]

Ts entertainment will always be the worst

[@arriibacon531]

Right

[@haru-10th]

No other agency can ever top TS' shitty actions towards every single person signed under their company, whether it can be a staff or an idol/artist. Sonamoo deserve better but TS is doing the bare minimum for them as a group.

[@orbittheworld7616]

@@haru-10th TS? I think you spelled TShitty wrong

[@atinymoonizen]

It's kinda funny how the stylists did/do Black hair styles on literally everyone except the Black idol... make it make sense.

[@aytestarose8903]

Black hair =\ curly or African hair

[@atinymoonizen]

@@aytestarose8903 i never said that they are one in the same. I was talking about hairstyles. Like how so many stylists give non black idols box braids, cornrows and dreads.

[@meanieeheart4236]

yea the part when the old black member they had said that she hardly spoke the language but she understood the hairdresser talking to others that she didn't want to do her hair/makeup like they thought she was dirty...like what? are we in the 60s

[@lacienagalacey9454]

@@meanieeheart4236 Honestly yea. Korea is hella conservative they really are stuck in the past.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

Korea is Xenophobic to the core, they are even rejecting North Koreans in that subject of matter. This is because they were a closed society for millenniums and have little genetic differences and cultural diversity which cause most of the people to have ignorance on the matter of race,cultures,religions etc. And due to overly difficult living standards, there are not enough immigrants for them to get used to that much. The only piece of knowledge that can cure their ignorance is kept away in English which they have difficulty learning due to difference in language families.

[@veeistiredasf]

this entire thing feels like a wattpad fanfic written by a 13 year old kpop fan, it's just so insane

[@locafries3004]

Seriously, how has Dr Music not gone bankrupt from all this mismanagement?

[@matthew_983]

Ikr especially their songs are actually not bad and i think they actually bought songs from famous producers and I think they cost quite a lot... I really wonder where did they get the money from lol

[@desireeheremaia7636]

I'm surprised Namfon hasn't sued them for what had taken place, in fact none of the members have, to what we know so far.

[@iampause]

Basically. The original line-up of RANIA was gold and they had Teddy Riley with them, they could've been HUGE.

[@naysilladelaputeri8041]

@@iampause true like they can get big as snsd or maybe blackpink but the bad management make them can't become big I wish they will have a better management Now

[@madman8319]

@@naysilladelaputeri8041 stop talkng bs

[@spicyconcha7084]

The way Alex was treated was literally trifling. Imagine coming to work and watch everyone else be styled , done up and bonding and yet you have to bring your own clothes, do your own hair and makeup. On top of not even speaking the language . Literally terrible.

[@_StrayKidsForever_]

They should have debuted her with another group so that she could learn the language. Mistreating idols of different races would obviously not bring in more fans but hate.

[@lanadiamandis4752]

Now that I'm thinking about it, I think Alex did what Namfon did as well with the visa. She'd stay for 3 months then fly back to America and then come back, and Dr's response back then was "visa issues".

[@ploopy678]

yeah I wouldn't be surprised...

[@MikaMoonlight]

And it must be much more expensive to fly from Korea to the States :(

[@dedejuice6325]

@@MikaMoonlight yeah.. it's around 1,000 now

[@naysilladelaputeri8041]

I hope all the non korean new member don't need to experience it

[@rodalie8759]

@@ploopy678 depuis le l vlavr

[@pashyshyungwon]

i feel that the biggest mystery is how this company still exist, like, someone sue them for all the mistreatment or something

[@RatsRatsIsthebest]

Lmao

[@realtalk6195]

Sure them for what? If there's unpaid bills, then go ahead. Other than that you're not guaranteed fame and fortune just because your work title is singer/dancer.

[@EvenYouTube]

@@realtalk6195 sue them for the mistreatment

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@EvenKZbinbut how tho not providing hair and outfit stylists? Cuz I don’t think that’s a law u need to have one

[@molozz2112]

You could sue them for basically not providing a member a visa, for work?! And basically stealing fans money?? @@brennathecatlover4360

[@duri1571]

Poor Namfon, the company really mistreated her with all that travelling. I’m not sure how Dr Music still functions, they’re super messy. Thank you for this video, you did a great job at informing us.

[@guntherstewart8941]

I think she's an icon for just leaving the way she did

[@duri1571]

@@guntherstewart8941 so true!!

[@realtalk6195]

If the group/label starts making real money, they should compensate her by bringing her for a few gigs. At the same time Namfon should have realized she was not in a proper business situation for herself, she should have left a long time ago. That's what job options are for, you shouldn't just stick to whatever you're in. The label wouldn't have kept you if you wanted to leave because you didn't have a work permit in the first place.

[@florencembah2626]

Honestly that girl should have sued them, she's one of those innocent girls that they really took advantage of, plus they are supposed to make her life better & career successful not put her family in debt🤦, I'm honestly heart broken

[@kobayashiharuno]

@@realtalk6195 but the thing is, DR Music probably wasn't making any money and i'm gonna assume those makestar donations were pocketed by the higher officials in the agency.

[@KatBlaque]

You did an amazing job on this. I know I said this last video but seeing this whole timeline make me feel sooooooo delusional ahahaa. The amount of times Dr Music let us down is staggering. Like oh my god i can't believe we tolerated sooooo much and yet here I am, still stanning them. I shouldda known something was up when you got Yina and Namfon to talk lol

[@feinfeinfeinh]

Yea lol

[@andynonymous6769]

Man I always see you on the most random parts of the internet lol Love you, love your videos :)

[@soojincore]

i love seeing random youtubers i watch commenting on other videos

[@liiyouu]

If she does pristin next, she would literally be uncovering a huge mystery of kpop

[@sher2513]

@Budurunnafis Ulul Azmi that's the question we're all asking. No one knows what happened to pristin

[@NexusSplatoon]

@Budurunnafis Ulul Azmi they just disbanded for no reason. it must have been an internal issue w the company, the group was doing well and the company wasn't bankrupt.

[@ninanano]

@@NexusSplatoon that's the worst part, there's no reason. We all try to make sense as to why such a promising group got disbanded but there's really no reason other than perhaps a lazy and greedy company

[@itspowers9107]

@Budurunnafis Ulul Azmi Kyla did mention that some fighting went done during their hiatus.

[@whatlehell6607]

I'm pretty sure everyone involved has probably signed an NDA so we most likely won't be able to find out the internal issues that took place. I heard rumours it was to do with some of the members' parents having beef with Pledis but idk

[@iniyama2]

Imagine stalking and trying to ruin a group for 10 years, failing, going after other groups, failing again, just being an overall unlikeable person and still somehow thinking you're in the right? 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾

[@taylorl9424]

and saesang C is still going, like when she gonna stop

[@efflorescentcrystal]

@@taylorl9424 Maybe there is some story behind why she is so obsessed with the CEO?

[@taylorl9424]

@@efflorescentcrystal who knows, maybe there is

[@Ava-np9xn]

@@efflorescentcrystal she’s allegedly obsessed with the CEO’S Son

[@efflorescentcrystal]

@@Ava-np9xn wait really?

[@Jkaiii1]

I feel bad for the members and the fans of Rania

[@ploopy678]

Same!

[@TheBestCat1290]

Ikr

[@shatteredshards8549]

I had to pause this for like, 5 minutes just to digest the part where they had Namfon flying in and out of the country because they wouldn't sponsor her visa. Not that it's just standard for a Kpop company to sponsor their foreign trainees/idols, but all over the world, employers will sponsor visas. DR Entertainment is competing for Crappiest Kpop Company against MBK and TS.

[@aytestarose8903]

At this moment I'm just thinking, why not sue the company for violating visa terms and tax evasion.

[@realtalk6195]

@@aytestarose8903 Only the ROK govt can sue them for that. Namfon can't as she was working illegally herself, plus that would cost her more money to even try.

[@ElenaSi]

Who's gonna explain DR company what is law? lol

[@florencembah2626]

That's an extremely selfish thing to do, like she should have sued them or something especially when it got her family in debt🤦

[@florencembah2626]

That's an extremely selfish thing to do, like she should have sued them or something especially when it got her family in debt🤦

[@dxhyunjin]

Not the ceo being bullied by a saesang 🧍

[@arriibacon531]

Right 😂😭💀💀

[@privateeye7383]

It’s some bullshit 😂

[@tangerine_chocolata]

💀

[@maritareads5229]

I just started laughing like you can sue wtf????

[@eo0-g9j]

Frr

[@egiga784]

I think we need the part 3 :") since blackswan going through another line-up changes, judy and youngheun had left and leia(larissa) is missing...

[@truongnguyenphuctam9470]

Yes bro

[@seuuIgis]

Does this company take a break?😭😭😭

[@Gavana_KPOP]

AND THERE ARE NEW MEMBERS AGAIN.

[@exsixure]

@@Gavana_KPOP ikr? its crazy because there are no Korean members at all 😭

[@Arya-fk6vj]

Larrisa Judy yeonghueon left and now the new members are sriya Gabriella and nvee this line up is stable as it has not changed since 2 years

[@TheBestCat1290]

Idk why but this is so interesting. I mean how did you even get 2 people from rania like wow. This should get more views

[@iluvprettygirlss]

Tbh she's underrated but she does the most research and puts the most effort but gets the less views.Many ktubers gave wrong info in their kaachi video(well they were rumors so they believed it but still)but she even contacted with Nicole.She needs more views and subs

[@TheBestCat1290]

@@iluvprettygirlss wow. I never knew that. That's sad. Yeah I 100% agree. She does spend a long time on these videos. I mean I could never do the research she does. KZbin should recommend this to more people

[@meggiemills3602]

Alex is writing a book about her time in BP Rania. I'm definitely looking forward to it. She said it could destroy Dr entertainment.

[@soggycookie345]

Has it been released yet

[@kungkungx3]

@@soggycookie345 yess commenting in case of updates LOL i need to read this, she needs justice, i felt so bad for her, along with the group itself but she was just straight up disrespected in front of her own face

[@yungtaeM9706]

How thick is the book gonna be???3 pages of whining?

[@meggiemills3602]

@@yungtaeM9706 I spy with my little eye a racist.

[@yungtaeM9706]

@@meggiemills3602 whatever you spying I don’t care at all. From a person named Maggie mills I don’t need to take advice or anything from. People have choices and whenever they feel not being treated right, they can just leave. But stop crying about stuff people don’t even care about. Except in the „real world“ of KZbin.

[@byounggonie]

who else keep checking and waiting for this 😩😭

[@TheBestCat1290]

Me. Omg. I've been waiting so long for this

[@shriyamakeupvanity9166]

Me😂

[@lunarlino]

Me 😔✨

[@jamphi_]

I'm waiting for long time haha

[@alexanderatchecoso9639]

Me

[@maidberry5129]

i feel really bad for Alex. the company literally used her and i can't even imagine how terrible she must've felt. she seems like a really sweet person, may God bless her

[@UniChimma]

But I’m glad that the fans support her a lot

[@brennathecatlover4360]

Didn’t she say korean fans actually loved her it was the i fans bitching like what fatou said about who supports bs and who hates them

[@takuyachanwoo63]

Sasaeng C is the one who destroyed RaNia's comeback in 2014, She pretend to be a staff and had access to RaNia's unreleased song and Leaked online which probably the main reason Dr Misoc and Ingenio Media had mis understanding and delayed everything, Sasaeng have done so much to the group and one of the reason why they are not successful

[@enilehcodramramlised8716]

And she caused JJCC’s Prince Mak leave, man if a hacker ever get a hold of her home address she catching hands period 👊🏾

[@motherhoodsbeauty9279]

Nobody take any action against her?

[@takuyachanwoo63]

@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 Sadly No, She still harassing them until these days, check her YT account and she is exposing Dr Music staff, phone number, email account address and private information, she harassed RaNia Member's that she hate also , RaNia fans always want to get rid of her but she don't want to give up and still wanted to ruined the company and the group

[@iqqyhassan2339]

@@takuyachanwoo63 It's sad the fans have to put in that much effort, it's the company's responsibility to keep the members safe. A whole company getting bullied by one girl is tragic.

[@motherhoodsbeauty9279]

@@takuyachanwoo63 Than why nobody do anything about this or expose her? Find a expert who can track/hack her down than put her in jail so everybody can live in peace. I am sure she is not the only person in Korean who hack shit.

[@TheeYouTubee]

I’m hoping BlackSwan can at least break away from Rania. Also idk why something is telling me they’re probably gonna add another member before the comeback

[@ResaChiic]

honestly, idk why they didnt just disband rania forever, and make a new group.

[@DaeDreaming]

@@ResaChiic It seems like they were trying to keep whatever Rania fans they had left with Hyemi. Plus they were still using ex members vocals on the songs. Alex talked about her fans contacting her asking if she knew her voice was in Black Swan's album & she had no idea. Kind of hard to pretend the group has no relation to Rania when they're still using all their vocals. That company is just a mess.

[@RatsRatsIsthebest]

Imagine they did lmao

[@Riverflowbythefield]

@@ResaChiic blackswan is the new group they're not another rania

[@lyllaby]

@@Riverflowbythefield didn't they just rebrand with a new name, still technically being the same group?

[@newjeansfan238]

WTF Namfon's situation: they asked her to pay for her visa and her flight ticket, they didn't care if she left with no words? LOL, they didn't ask her to sign a contract with date to be in the group? I don't think they did that but normally, kpop compagnies sign a contract with the members with a date when they can't leave

[@ploopy678]

I asked the members that at the end of the video!

[@caeland9954]

part 3 required 🤡 >>> now blackswan is a 4 member group - Fatou, Gabi, NVee, Sriya >>> this member change story is just unending 💀

[@truongnguyenphuctam9470]

Their recently songs "Karma" are actually good BTW

[@Forever_2424]

Leia is also a part of group she is on haitus right now

[@truongnguyenphuctam9470]

@@Forever_2424 I heard there's a drama between Leia (Larissa) & Fatou

[@Forever_2424]

@@truongnguyenphuctam9470 they fixed it

[@_butterfly_army_]

@@truongnguyenphuctam9470leia is larissa?

[@lanadiamandis4752]

As for Hyeme's case. Yes her contract ended on November 6th 2020 after 5 years sincr debut. They just didn't want let go of Hyeme because of her Rania fans. Basically they wanted to milk Rania fans by using Hyeme as a bait. Kinda messy

[@kobayashiharuno]

when will DR music ever learn about their endless mistakes...

[@NexusSplatoon]

the whole thing is messy, blackswan might be the new start they needed

[@blen8469]

You need to make a part 3 it’s getting crazy with the group

[@suger9714]

YES like Leia (Larissa) left BLACKSWAN

[@yemayacherry4708]

@@suger9714 bruh she didn't

[@dercfts1]

​@@yemayacherry4708 she's on "hiatus"... most likely it means we won't see her any soon

[@emmaadewole3252]

​@@yemayacherry4708she has been on hiatus for a while now and is unofficially removed from the group. They are likely waiting for her contact tp expire.

[@doro2597]

i had no idea that *this* was the history of blackswan(rania) like i just got into them after hearing tonight and OMG THERES SO MUCH THAT HAPPENED

[@pinklemonaze9982]

crazy right? they debuted 10 years before blackswan's debut, there's so much history behind the group!

[@MBMMIXES16Official]

I know right. This videos def needed to be made. Support BLACKSWAN

[@number1soobinstan]

RIGHT

[@doro2597]

@@number1soobinstan your name tho

[@corynr.5444]

"Tonight" was such a bop and I instantly got hooked to the group BlackSwan, I don't know much about the group and their history but their company is just pure TRASH, so many member lineups (I mean, it must've been so confusing from time to time lol), no proper treatment for the members (Alex and Namfon rlly hurt me bcuz they were affected so much 😢), not taking legal action and responsibilities, and above it all the tea. It was a shame to hear about the whole controversy with hyeme and how it would affect the group just only a MONTH after their debut. But, I rlly hope they get better treatment in the future. 🥰💝💋

[@lelesesay236]

Being a black woman seeing this just makes me hurt. We all have flesh and bones; skin is just skin. We can't change our skin color. We are born this way. I feel really bad for Alex. Think about it, if kpop singers can debut in America, why cant black women and foreigners debut in Korea?

[@brennathecatlover4360]

The i fans were the ones hating on her and the Korean fans had no issue same with blackswan

[@lindseywong9667]

Well after all of this. I highly doubt Black Swan is going to survive. The companies a complete mess and they really cant manage there group. I loved the song Tonight but I saw the Goodbye Rania album full of remixes of old rania songs which was weird. In my mind, Black Swan is just a whole different group already.

[@kasaneteto986]

The Blackswan members said they're planned for a comeback sometime in the spring, but I'll believe it when I see it because this company is ridiculous 🤡🤡

[@samila1142]

The Rania thing it's supposed to end This remix album was only for the old fans

[@Chris-ot9bk]

welp this aged due to the bullying scandal

[@amelielovesboygenius]

fun fact: i myself was early to one of blackswans posts on their main acc on instagram. i spammed the comments w stuff like "so cute" and "ily guys" and was replied to with barfing emojis, "ew", etc. and guess what, im pretty sure its candi or c. her username has kpopgirl in it aswell.. idk kinda scary. if you go to blackswans main and find the photo of fatou doing bunny ears over youngheun you can still see my reply to her now deleted comment. (yvesifys) candi is really such a disgusting person and i hope she just stops. im sick of it.

[@enilehcodramramlised8716]

She thank it’s funny but let a hacker decide to be petty and get a hold of her info like her address, where she works what not best believe a whole lot of us will come and run up on her, she’ll catch that hands.🤔🤷🏾‍♀️😒

[@TheBestCat1290]

Wth. Hope she isn't the demise to blackswan

[@kaesijoo444]

what is she trying to do exactly? is she angry that the original members of rania were replaced by the blackswan members? and i also heard she's 38. she needs to stop acting like a child

[@eo0-g9j]

@@kaesijoo444 she is 38???

[@kaesijoo444]

@@eo0-g9j there was a comment saying she was so please don't quote me on that as it might be misinfo but i do know for a fact that she's at least over 24

[@myragingwhormoans]

rania never dies, they only become more convoluted. at the end of the world there will only be cockroaches, hunhanists and rania.

[@Itachi_alwaysmine]

Bruh ur comment made me laugh so hard sksksks

[@cryptic_so_wifeyyy]

I feel so sorry for Namfon and her parents. Like damn they got into debt bc the CEO was a big baby 🤦‍♀️

[@ash-sb6rw]

i started stanning black swan from their debut, i had no idea about all this and was so confused when hyeme left. it was surprising watching this video and i hope nothing like this happens again..

[@s_archive1]

black swan should've just debut with 4 members if Hyeme gonna leave anyway smh also if I were Hyeme and my contract ended, I wouldn't renewed my contract too

[@mohdq6044]

Same I was so sad but now I feel happy that things are going well...for now🤞

[@atenthrewup8784]

What do ya know, things have happened again- have you heard about the drama with Leia and Fatou?

[@CasuallyCruelCrushesClub]

The fact that I'm watching this 2024 and at this point the current lineup is also completely different from where this video ends is just wow- The only original Blackswan member still in the group is Fatou with 3 added members Gabi, NVee and Sriya. Still the scandals never seem to end with Leia's false bullying accusations towards Fatou AND the fact that a lot of people are in denial about the fact that Blackswan is a kpop groups cuz there aren't any Korean or east-asian members in it anymore, even tho they still make their music in Korean smh.

[@starkokachian]

MEMBER CHANGES AS OF JULY 16 2024: Judy, Yeongheun, and Leia left Shriya Lenka, an Indian idol joined the group Gabriela Strassburger Dalcin, a Brazilian-German idol joined the group NVee, an American idol joined also

[@melodyji_]

No this is the one Judy and Youngheun Left in Mid 2022 Gabi and Sriya were Added on 2023 Larissa (Formerly Leia) has Left the group on 2023. She was hiatus to go Brazil to family time And Nvee were added on 2023 By replacement by Larissa (Formerly Leia)

[@kaylasmith1185]

I think the craziest thing about this is that in America, alex would be looked at as a mixed race light skinned black girl, and would receive better treatment and opportunity in the musical industry in many places simply because she doesn't appear "stereotypically black" and is considered light skinned. For someone who, I- quite frankly did a double take at when it was mentioned that she was black ( i legit paused the video and was like wait what no she's mixed with something) to think that someone as light skinned as her, with such angular, European influenced features could STILL be treated like garbage because she isn't the color of a piece of printer paper hurt me more than I expected it to.

[@moi1310]

It reminds me how Americans are baffled that there is racism amongst Europeans. Context matters a lot.

[@rAndOmPie1857]

Blackswan had a comeback in 31st July with the official lineup, I'm loving it

[@drpri1836]

Now, Blackswan is promoting an Indian Trainee to debut in their group. I hope she gets well treated by Dr Music. Update: Judy and Younghyeun has "graduated" (more like left) the group, now there's Sriya and Gabi in the lineup. There's no Korean members in Blackswan right now.

[@yungtaeM9706]

To be honest: WHO cares about that group. They will never be successful anyways!🤦🏻🤦🏻🤷🏻‍♂️⚰️

[@icecreamlid]

Sometimes. I hope they disband. I do./lh/lh

[@auroriiiia]

There's currently four members in the group: Fatou who is Senegalese-Belgian, Leia who is Brazilian-Japanese, Gabi who is Brazilian-German and Sriya who is Indian.

[@SkyCaf508]

@@auroriiiia If there is no Korean member in group. Will it still Consider as Kpop group ?

[@auroriiiia]

@@SkyCaf508 kpop isn't korean singers making music, it's singers making music in korea. There doesn't have to be korean members to make it a kpop group

[@oddligames1592]

As a former A1st (rania fan member) from their debut I have to agree with all of the information provided. Candi has been the venom of the fandom and harassed the girls including Alex. She helped perpetuate the negative rumors about Alex.

[@drumtap2792]

I'm sure she had her reasons for putting up with so much for so long, but if I were Alex I would've walked from day one. Come on, not even bothering to get her a translator or a Korean teacher? Getting her to stand in the corner of a live performance? They treated her like absolute trash. They just let her float around the edge of the group and fend for herself after they were done using her as a marketing ploy. If I let myself tolerate that kind of disrespect I don't think I could look at myself in the mirror anymore.

[@seralee883]

Yeah, let's not do this. Alexandra was chasing her dream, and she swallowed a lot of dirt to make it happen. When she realized her dream was unreachable and that it wasn't like she pictured, she walked off. I think every kpop fan would do that lmao so let's not second guess anyone, okay?

[@drumtap2792]

@Yuri Miura I didn't mean to come off as belittling the decision she made, people have done and endured much worse for their dreams. It's just utterly shocking how much she put up with and how a company can operate this way with seemingly minimal repercussions considering they're still around today.

[@taylorl9424]

There is a video on Grazy Grace youtube channel where she talked with Alex on why she stayed so long and how she delt with all of it. Ploopy showed a clip of it in this video but you should go watch the full video to understand it better

[@Koko24250]

looks like we're gonna need a part 3

[@shayforest]

omfg this was such a wild ride as a new fan of Blackswan who knew nothing about anything pre-October 2020 until your first video lol maybe I'm overly optimistic (I wasn't around to get jaded by all the Rania drama, after all), but I am hopeful that the company is doing better with Blackswan. The members have had dance/rap/vocal cover solos posted on youtube and there's even a video series called Blackswan: Lost In Translation (or B'LIT) going on right now, so.. fingers crossed? 🤞 I really want Blackswan to get treated like they deserve 🖤

[@TheBestCat1290]

Yeah. She is reviving the channels back with new viewers such as me and you. Wow

[@N12S10S]

So I hope the group does well but I don't trust the company I really hope they can get in a new company as a group x3

[@joliederzett]

it's time to do part 3! 😂😂 There's 3 new members and 3 old members dropouts

[@nguyensu3851]

Yes bro 😊

[@ayushibasu]

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[@ple8379]

I checked it recently, and apparently, there are still 4 member, except from the end of that video, only Fatou is still in the group, and the rest are all new members, and right now, any of the members are Korean.

[@cookiesncrime333]

I wonder where the company got the budget update from, since there's such a giant leap from the rania videos to the blackswan video

[@tuonglam5942]

Maybe they had the budget all along for rania videos but decided to pocket it?? Idk just a speculation.

[@matthew_983]

I wonder how did they even get a budget at the first place 😭😭with all the messiness with rania for 9 years I’m pretty sure they’re just losing money lol

[@kasaneteto986]

Dr. Music is NOT broke, I know that's a popular speculation but no they have money. They just choose not to spend it on certain things for whatever reason. They're dumbasses nevertheless

[@donniebelladonna4512]

@@kasaneteto986 that's exactly what I think. when namfon said they didn't want to pay the taxes for her visa I had an epiphany. of course they have money, they're just picky about how they're gonna spend it. bastards.

[@emmaadewole3252]

Update from 2023 hyeme was proven innocent, youngheun and judy left due to a bullying scandal caused by a family member of larissa who is currently on hiatus and unofficially removed from the group, three new members were added to complete the group alongside fatou. Things are looking up for the group as they will be releasing a music video for their bside cat and mouse after a successful comeback with their song karma. Before watching this video I would have confidently said it would be smooth sailing from here but now I'm unsure as much as I am seeing a positive change in management, the issue seems to go all the way back to their first group baby vox. I am really attached to this current lineup so I won't forgive dr if they mess this up.

[@CaitCher]

Maybe this is just me not reaching down in the comments far enough, but am I the only person who felt so horrible for Alex? I knew from the get go that Blackswan was just using Alex as a token to get International fans into their fandom because "HEY! WE, SOUTH KOREA, HAVE A BLACK PERSON! SEE? WE'RE NOT RACIST AT ALL!" (Scoff) Please! This is like Disney announcing that the latest film is going to have a gay character before the movie premieres. This just explains even further that yes, South Korea wants that International standing because America and the UK have it, but they don't even do the bare fucking minimum of appealing to the International audience, and yes that includes moral boundaries. For a country that should be on the same level as America, the UK, Australia, etc, they really don't seem to want to evolve that much at all. It makes me concerned about the new girl of the group, Fatou. She may be dancing now, but considering with how the events described in this video went down before, it wouldn't surprise me if she gets similar or the same treatment as Alex did. I don't want that to happen whatsoever, but things are not looking fantastic at all. Tokenism is real, and this is an all around the world thing, not just in America. If we keep supporting this crap, South Korea is gonna keep doing it. And for those of you who are going to tell me that I'm being too harsh and just give Blackswan a second chance since we don't know what Fatou is like, would you give your abuser a second chance even if they got the help they needed? Not a chance in hell.

[@Riverflowbythefield]

Alex was not a part of blackswan she was a part of bp/rania fatou is actually doing good and treated like everybody else her and the girls are friends and there is a genuine connection between them actually the only ppl how give her a hard Time and treat her unfairly is intentional fans especially black fans

[@CaitCher]

@@Riverflowbythefield I'm not going to argue on what name each girl was a part of. Nonetheless, what we've all learned about Kpop or the music industry as an international whole is that we don't really know what goes on behind the scenes. Alex had obvious horrible treatment since there were video evidence during her run. We didn't know how bad her treatment really was until she was interviewed and appeared in Grace's videos. In fact, there are many cases where on stage or on TV, idols look as if they are apart of the group they are in, but we don't know until they are kicked out or quit the industry of how bad it really is. It's too soon to tell Fatou's fate, true. However, I would be extremely naive to just ignore Alex's poor treatment from before and just pretend that race isn't a factor here. Again, I'm not pouring gas to Fatou's career. I wish her all the best if anything else. I'm just saying we don't know what happens unless we are there or we are told.

[@jordanaenewman434]

Preach ‼️‼️‼️

[@jordanaenewman434]

I don’t understand how is it so hard for this company to hire ONE, not 10, but one black/ or Korean hair stylist that’s diverse and can do black hair too 🤷🏽‍♀️ 😒. The same goes for make up.

[@Riverflowbythefield]

@@CaitCher I'm not arguing I'm correcting u bc misinformation can cause so much harm also Alex treatment was very obvious if u keep up with the group nothing in the video is surprising i mean if they treat Chinese/thai idols horribly it's not really expected that they will treat black idols amazing but I'm still not going to look for problem when there is none and when its comes to fatou there is none *yet*

[@full-timek-poptrash]

The fact that BlackSwan is completely different now is pretty scary…

[@yooaz8442]

And now they’re holding auditions to cast a new member once again 😭 I feel so sorry for all the girls, they all deserve/deserved better :( how is such a group history even possible it’s insane

[@aytestarose8903]

They do whaaaaat

[@geekdiggy]

Pledis Ent.: we are pretty convincingly the shittiest entertainment company in korea TS Ent.: tbh, you aint even on our level DR Music: both of you, hold my line-up change.

[@minhospaws55]

Jellyfish: guys, I'm your fan and dreaming to become like you someday!!

[@jammdeguzman9197]

Cube lining up too.

[@blacktothepink5293]

CUBE: **kicks Soojin out of (G)I-DLE and later terminating her contract because they couldn't deal properly with scandals**

[@deahkcid9315]

Star Empire:Girl Yess Im Much Worse🤭🥰

[@icy0207]

Rewatching this because of the bullying scandal between Leia and Fatou (and Youngheun I think?) …this group really can’t catch a break at all 😭

[@idkjshssbvVs]

You need to make a part 3, so much has changed

[@nguyensu3851]

Like Leia (Larissa) bullied Fatou

[@didodkdk]

​@@nguyensu3851wait WHAT

[@emmaadewole3252]

​@@didodkdkshe also inappropriately touched some ex members

[@motherhoodsbeauty9279]

WTF! They did not only make her work for free but also make her pay for her own airplane ticket? That is modern slavery in another whole new level. This girl need justices.

[@oncetwice5165]

not their entertainment company holding auditions for a new member- honestly I fucking live for blackswan, but with all of the constant line up changes and such, I’m worried about them even more than now.

[@millie_0]

Ikr! Their fine with the 4 members

[@zinja0830]

Thanks for going all out with research and contacting former members. You do such great work!

[@ploopy678]

Aww I'm glad you like it!!

[@windlife]

That’s why Alex always with Zi.U and Yina. Of all members, these two can understand English the most.

[@peachxtaehyung]

I mean I guess at least namfon was able to see her family and friends frequently lol but seriously that sucks that Dr couldn't even at least pay for her travel smfh. EDIT wait yongheun is from stellar?? When? I didn't know there was someone who left before? I knew before their last song someone was added but yeah...

[@rm3364]

She was actually added after their last promotions ended. The company tried to keep Stellar alive shortly after the original members Gayoung and Jeonyul left, but it didn't work out, so they just disbanded.

[@peachxtaehyung]

@@rm3364 ahh OK I thought that they just disbanded I didn't know 2 members left then 1 replaced them. Thank you for letting me know!!

[@pinguuthepenguin]

*From September 2023:* Hyeme Left Blackswan Blackswan had a comeback titled *Close To Me* Larissa's stage name was changed to Leia Judy & Yongheun had left Blackswan 2 new members were added to the group Sriya and Gabi, replacing Yongheun and Judy Leia was put on Hiatus due to a bullying and sexual assault scandal. A new member called Nvee was added to the group Blackswan had a comeback titled *That Karma* Fatou confirmed that Leia left the group, meaning that Nvee replaced Leia All current members of Blackswan are Non-Korean There were a total of 4 member leaving and 3 new members added from the debut of Blackswan. Fatou is the only original member remaining.

[@StanGfriendForBetterLife]

Yeah the company can’t even handle rania and yet they still make a new group while the curse is still happening. Such a shame

[@marumyauss]

I'm 100% sure that the reason they made Alex comeback to the US so much was also that the didn't want to pay for her working via either.

[@daniella234]

you should make an update to this! black swan has actually gotten into some messy drama recently between the members

[@takahashi5576]

💀yeah this video didn't aged well, this group literally can't catch a break

[@lashontawilliams7092]

@@takahashi5576 Literally

[@muratuysall]

@HUGH i think leia is still in the group but the 2 new members are now confirmed 😩

[@shyllamouton]

Well this comment aged even worse 😂 we have a new member in Blackswan. Man I hope they dont break Shreya's spirits

[@joicy3308]

@@shyllamouton yeah man, I'm so scared for shriya, she is so talented not only her but everybody in that group, if the agency utilize them right, they'll surely make it big globally like they literally have huge support system from Brazil and India. If the agency think they can't manage things right, they should hire some Indian dude, you know Indian are already managing biggest firms all around the world

[@eri_lol2002]

Kudos to Hyeme for sticking around so long. That must have been a roller coaster of emotions and trials for these young girls in the lives. I wish them all the best and hope they can make the most of their lives

[@dxhyunjin]

It seems that black swan is getting more freedom as well since they are so active on tiktok

[@ploopy678]

To be fair to DR music, based on what I know, the members have always had a lot of freedom

[@TheBestCat1290]

They didn't even know which member is even in the group and leaving them alone to pay for their own stuff. At least they turned around and improved but it shouldn't take a decade to do that

[@JiRune138]

You forgot to mention that Larissa/Leia is the first female Brazilian kpop idol (I believe she is the second overall, and she is also Brazilian-Japanese)

[@aytestarose8903]

Means if something bad happen to her ( like get hurt from C), the Brazilian fanbase goes riot? Right? Do all your best and protect her and blackswan

[@opeixenemo]

@@aytestarose8903 of couse, we almost killed our president

[@Nixxlinda]

@@opeixenemo KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA AKKAKAKAKKAKAKAKA ASSIM NEH

[@otomeleifu]

@@aytestarose8903 absolutely. I’m not Brazilian but even I know Brazilian kpop fans go hard af. Them and Thai fans do not play.

[@anyuser5788]

@@opeixenemo 💀💀

[@legenchae3352]

i waited for the second part and now i'm so early!!

[@K_is_best4ever]

Current Line Up in 2023-24 is : FATOU , NVEE, GABI, SHRIYA

[@straykidsmala]

I'm so lucky I watched the first part today so I didn't have to wait for too long for this Their story is like a soap opera A makjang drama

[@bribbri3697]

Seriously like so.eone could make a movie/ documentary out of this

[@sung.myunghee__]

I think you should make it's part 3 cuz the story still continues......

[@martinocsovai6781]

Blackswan update: Yongheun and Judy left the group in 2022 and Larissa (who redebuted as Leia) has also left the group sometimes in 2023 Gabi and Sriya joined in 2022 and then Nvee in 2023 And this is gonna be the final lineup cuz Fatou announced in an interview that there will be no changes.

[@RPE011]

We need an update on black swan cause with leia, gaby, sriya and nvee, and then leia leaving and all, there’s some new bs drama

[@AuntyStan]

Black swan have preformed other rania songs but umm the back track still had Alex and the other member's voices in it from that era rather than the current member's singing it and/or there voices in the back track

[@taylorl9424]

oh yeaa i completely forgot about that, if they were redebuting why would they keep the former member's voices on the track..

[@AuntyStan]

@@taylorl9424 yeah, it was odd. I havent listened to the whole of black swans album yet, but im told its made up of all Rania songs

[@taylorl9424]

@@AuntyStan yup you're right maybe not all of the songs but most

[@AuntyStan]

@@taylorl9424 i feel bad for them, i get saying goodbye/thankyou to Rania but also at the same time having music that is all theres would seem right if you get what i mean

[@selvapspillai472]

I really hate fans and company staffs who are really a racist...why can't they see idols in a good way like why do they have to look at their skin colours...ughhh it literally makes me angry and sad at the same time😭😡this is not fair..

[@strawberryyuriroselia3480]

yea

[@angelgor5102]

Now BLACKSWAN'S current lineup is very talented and they are getting good promotions also They have 7m vs on karma mv

[@requlus]

when ploopy said "please dont sue me", i instantly replied, dw for the company to sue you, first they'll raise a fundraiser and then forget about it. youre safe lmao

[@rosexx4511]

And now, after 1,5years from this video, the story is repeating and two members joined, two members left...

[@karcavida3250]

You know it's some next level shit when she says "it's all alleged, please don't sue me". 🤣🤣

[@indieree7987]

Alex is so beautiful and talented I wish she debuted with another group and proper company bro We could’ve seen more of her and watched her grow

[@hexyila52]

I will say that whoever write fatous rap for tonight needs to be fired on the spot and they need to let that girl write her own raps. She’s a barb for gods sake she could probably rap circles around anyone they could bring in to write for her

[@venus9727]

No deadass, I didn’t wanna be mean since it was their debut but that rap verse was no and mad short

[@eo0-g9j]

She’s a barb???

[@IsAbella-nr4zw]

over 3 years later, now the members are sriya, fatou ( yay she stayed! ) NVee and Gabi

[@floralfae16]

The fact that theres been more member changes since this 🫠

[@isisbeatriz9110]

Call me highly optimistic but I guess that after 10 years, Dr music finally learned something and is now doing a much better job with Blackswan, the members have great chemistry together, Fatou is included, they are active on social media posting covers/vlogs and their debut was successful. All they need now is consistent comebacks and no more line-up changes, I hope Dr music doesn't screw up, they have an actual shot now

[@iampause]

they didn't change for s**t. the already lost a member

[@ruthrom]

I really don't know, it would be better if they change the CEO for someone actually worthy.

[@maryanna8345]

💀💀💀

[@shreya1267]

well this didn't age well

[@skrgrnd]

cry about it💀💀💀

[@charmz9416]

Time for a part 3 ☠️

[@ploopy678]

Waiting for more info to come out!

[@TheCaribbeanFlamingoReacts]

@@ploopy678 the fact two members left and two members were added is just so insane that black swan is also getting the raNia treatment

[@davidflores6922]

Hi, just watched both RaNia, BP RaNia, Black swan, videos, and let me say you should make an updated or 3rd part... As of now in Blackswan, the 2 Korean members of Blackswan have "graduated" as Dr. Music put it, from the group and 3 new members have been added. Last added member goes by Nvee.

[@ivcmgi]

You should make a part 3 since another lineup change occured

[@andyandys5356]

Her videos are mostly bad news so I'd rather no part 3

[@neversenever591]

Watching this video with a more recent context is so…. 😭 this poor group can’t catch a break ever

[@icy0207]

Ikr 😭 I hope we get some more info about the current situation soon

[@akabaneaki]

I really want to know. Is there actually someone, ANYONE, who stayed a fan since their rania debut up till now? As in actually buy merchandise etc type of fans. I need to applaud them for their loyalty and sanity

[@takuyachanwoo63]

Definitely no one stayed, I've been following the group since 2013 The group have loyal fanbased from the original line up and having a good amount of Album sales and Digital Sales for a Small Company but due to frequent line up changes and random girls keep coming in - The fanbase become mess and left

[@akabaneaki]

@@takuyachanwoo63 ahh i see i see, but thats so impressive of you to stay for so long as well really OAO I just don get why the management of the company is so terrible! Im sure they knew this group has potential too since it can survive till today but everything is so terrible behind the scenes gosh.

[@rinrin9236]

I'm sure there are, there are people in this comment section and the comment section of the first part of this video who admitted to being og Rania stans up until Blackswan's debut. The only reason Hyeme redebuted with Blackswan was to attract older Rania members, so they were definitely still around.

[@midnightblue1293]

I became a fan in 2014 but stopped following when it completely changed to black swan bc I just gave up. I really don’t think there is fans from the very beginning that stayed because everyone was just sick of it all.

[@akabaneaki]

@@midnightblue1293 Understandably so too ^^;

[@j6nrod]

Kudos to the fans that have followed the journey of Rania/BP Rania/Blackswan. the group had been through so much and I can’t even imagine being in such a position seeing my faves go through so much changes.

[@briannam7549]

imagine if ALL the members of the HISTORY of BP rania and rania and black swan came together and debuted as BPswanrania

[@rosalyndc998]

The true multiverse of madness 😭

[@TheBestCat1290]

I was legit checking every night before bed and it's an hour before bed and I get to enjoy this

[@truongnguyenphuctam9470]

BLACKSWAN will be comeback On May 19,2023 as 2nd single called That Karma

[@urchingu0780]

I’m so early I don’t know what to comment so all I’m gonna say is: THE QUEEN UPLOADED PART2!!!!

[@caGer_]

Sweet and simple.

[@ninanano]

Having to constantly pay for plane tickets every 90 days is probably more expensive than the visa itself...

[@katwang7880]

I have a really really big question though. If the company is this bad why do members still join? And how does the company still stay a company and not go bankrupt if they aren’t properly doing their job? It just doesn’t make sense. While the timeline and member changes are very confusing, most of this info is available to the public. And technically if the members wanted, they could file a lawsuit, it’s happened many times in the kpop industry before.

[@chinomina9637]

many of them have no option, you know? Most of the Blackswan girls are adults now and would hardly be able to get into another company because they are considered too old to debut. Leia was part of another company, Pledis, but ended up staying there for years and she didn't debut, maybe she thought she had no other option.

[@ploopy678]

There's no point filing a lawsuit, because DR music tends to let members leave whenever they want, so there's no reason to spend additional money hiring a lawyer, going through legal proceedings etc.

[@nanamae4520]

17:03 this actually happened to an actress here in the philippines. she used to be a kpop idol trainee but she wasn't technically employed so they couldn't give her a working visa so she could only take the option of flying to korea & training for 3 months, fly home, then come back again for 3 months. she eventually stopped going after 2 years i think? she used to train with nancy of momoland.

[@jamphi_]

I feel bad for Namfon and her parents

[@janhaviw1922]

kudos to you for gathering the information and presenting it in such a systematic order!! it mustve been really a hard task, i was especially surprised when you literally got the members interviews. WELL DONE!

[@jianahe2011]

I didn't know Blackswan had such a long history...

[@renzuzel8714]

im very thankful for explaining this whole mess! ur a genius! i hope that every member (or ex members) of rania/bp rania are happily living their lifes ! itsg i guess i fell in love with Namfon's smile :D LETS SUPPORT YINA AND NAMFON GUYS !!

[@caGer_]

I can't imagine all the headaches you got from preparing this video. Mad props!

[@Arya-fx9kb]

The fact that all of them except fatou left the group and had yet again line up change