What Ahsoka Just Did is PURE GENIUS! (baylan hilt!)

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[@brianegendorf2023]

Ray Stevenson/Baylan is such a big guy, I didn't even realize his hilt was that big.. He is really intimidating. I am sad that he passed away. He is one of my favorite actors.

[@rh906]

It's going to be even more sad as they just emasculate the character if Kennedy Wars previous shows are any indicator.

[@Pidalin]

Yeah, very sad that he died and what's gonna be with show is another sad thing, I hope they will not make some nonsense like his CGI version or something even worse. Such a good character with great potential and actor died, StarWars is really cursed. Maybe they will put different actor there, it would be weird, but it happened even to other shows and movies, so it could also happen, I am very curious about what they do.

[@silenthill4]

Old school masculinity, very Sean Connery

[@codyayres]

rip ray stevenson

[@Pegasus_Gr]

Yeah fuck why does legends always need to leave sooner he was such a good actor even did one of the most badass mandalorian in star Wars

[@Tapirrr]

He is one with the force now

[@TheRbsnoopy]

Rip 🙏

[@kristijan8518]

Rip

[@pullo5518]

Rip Ray.

[@davido.1233]

When you get the crossguard stance in Jedi Survivor, the blade is extended and it becomes much like a broadsword with slow movements and wide strokes. Baylan's lightsaber could be utilizing that aspect without the crossguard vents, since his lightsaber has a hilt guard.

[@stevennichols2463]

I hated that stance. It was way too slow...

[@davido.1233]

@@stevennichols2463 It's supposed to be slow, it's mimicking a broadsword.

[@stevennichols2463]

@@davido.1233 i know but the enemies are too aggressive for a slow lightsaber in my opinion. It was just a stance I disgarded right from the start. When you're getting hit just winding up a swing I thought "no way" lol.

[@davido.1233]

@@stevennichols2463 The cross guard stance is best utilized in boss fights like with Rayvis, where if you pair it with the dual-saber stance, can inflict a lot of damage and reverberation. I get why a lot of people don't like it, but I found it pretty effective, at least with how I play the game.

[@why8298]

@@stevennichols2463I liked the stance it was the best defensive stance and it hit hard

[@hankscorpion9939]

Baylan and Shin feel very promising as characters. Also really like Morgan Elspeth. She has a very witchy way about her, even the way she talks, which I didn't really notice when she appeared in the Mandalorian.

[@slewone4905]

Baylan can not be a promising character, because of a severe problem. the actor died. This is extremely sad.

[@TheWhills]

​@@slewone4905they could recast

[@tylerchapman7846]

​@@slewone4905He died, but he did finish all his scenes for the first season. So they're probably at the end of the season they're gonna honor him. I think they did that in the first episode at the end.

[@sirw7630]

@@tylerchapman7846 Yep, you can bet your SW credits the directors will kill him off in a noble, honorable way with maybe a redemption arc at the very end (he goes back to the light side) like Darth Vader did end of ROTJ. Baylan comes off as more of a "gray Jedi" than dark and that's cool. He isn't necessarily a Sith or Dark Jedi, but as already demonstrated, he will use some Force powers the Jedi would never try.

[@tanishdesai3884]

@@sirw7630I don’t think a redemption but yes I agree he’s a gray Jedi , he even mentioned that it would be a shame to kill Ashoka because there are so few Jedi left

[@rampapandiontinling]

I like the Medieval/swords and sorcery aspect that these new characters bring. Marrok is very Medieval-style as well. I think the time difference/dilation between the two galaxies will play into that. The other galaxy may be the "old" world. Longer ago in a galaxy further away.

[@Thunder-Ghost]

Agreed although I'am kinda hoping for the Yuuzhan Vong but they might be too violent for Disney

[@Bobzilla_Returns]

Ahsoka may have faced form VII before when battling Maul on mandalore as he was a practitioner however I agree that the weight of Baylon’s blade would produce a slightly different style

[@darylsdesigns6679]

I’d say Form V. Baylon has the tall stature and muscle frame to effectively employ the power attacks of Djem So

[@Bobzilla_Returns]

@@darylsdesigns6679 Thats a good point tbh

[@baki484]

@@Bobzilla_Returns Mauls uses form 7 built on the backbone of form 6.

[@Bobzilla_Returns]

@@slendrboiofficial778 It’s what was said in the video that perhaps the orange blades, produced by a different type of crystal, carry more weight than a standard lightsaber with kyber

[@deeznutz8221]

@@slendrboiofficial778it’s not just a light it’s a crystal. Different crystals can have diff weight

[@driftvader8869]

The fight between Ahsoka and Baylan was really awesome storytelling! The very asian influenced style of Ahsoka`s stance, moves and blades vs the Templar like appeal and swordfighting style of Baylan was so well done and portrayed that without a single word said there was immediate tension and dialog through visuals

[@clintroberts1382]

I agree that this is very cool. It was also cool when Highlander did this with real swords.

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

I get the impression that Baylan Skoll -- as a Jedi Padawan and Knight -- has an affinity for The High Republic Era of lightsabers and Jedi Knighthood. The Eye Of Sion sounds like a close relative to The Gaze Electric. Both ocular-oriented.

[@anthonyself2010]

I like what you're thinking 🤔 I want to see the Nihil on the big screen so bad

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

@@anthonyself2010 Considering that, The Acolyte takes place 98 years after the terrors of The Nihil, The Drengir, Marchion Ro, and The Nameless...flashbacks and/or Hologram and HoloNet footage would make total sense. I also get the impression that the Jedi Vectors will still be in existence, which look just as cool as the X-Wings and E-Wings of the future...

[@rh906]

"Our lightsaber duels will keep up with the standard of previous duels" *dies of laughter*

[@TeamLNE]

Did anyone else get the urge to play Jedi Survivor after watching Ahsoka 'solve' the first puzzle?

[@danieldonovan7166]

Nope... But I got the urge to play KOTOR 1 and 2

[@baki484]

Yeah I did the puzzle gave me Zeffo vibes. Especially that sphere containing the map she got in the beginning.

[@mtp0304]

Yes

[@DrRippenShitten]

​@@baki484I wonder if the Night Sisters and the Zeffo had contact... Cuz those balls reminded me of the Zeffo too...

[@baki484]

@@DrRippenShitten The tomb of Kudjet on dathomir makes me think they did.

[@CreepersNeedHugs]

5:06 _Master & Apprentice_ also states that Kohlen-powered lightsabers are incredibly weak against non-Kohlen objects compared to Kyber-powered ones. If I recall correctly, Kenobi was unable to cut through things with a Kohlen crystal in his lightsaber.

[@mammothnostalgic10kbc24]

Was just going to comment this, I think the reason for which the blades are orange may be due to the fact that the Kyber Crystals weren't bled all the way through, since neither Skoll nor Hati were gone all the way to the Dark Side of the Force but rather probably separated themselves from the Dichotomy altogether.

[@drishalballaney6590]

this could also be why sabine did not possibly die when she was cut through

[@mammothnostalgic10kbc24]

@@drishalballaney6590 I think the shot shows she was very deliberately cut through the side. Qui-Gon Jin was cut right in the middle, piercing his spine, different story.

[@drishalballaney6590]

@@mammothnostalgic10kbc24 and also for relatively lesser time I think

[@mammothnostalgic10kbc24]

@@drishalballaney6590 Yeah I mean it's kinda weird how that works in Star Wars, since theoretically they can't exactly "bleed out", but he did sit there wounded for quite an while though

[@PaulGuy]

Baylan tends to move the whole saber around when blocking blaster shots, which is different from how others do it. Most others move the blade or swing the whole thing, but Baylan keeps it fairly stable, moving the whole thing at once. His saber might be like the Darksaber, which is another unique blade. Baylan also swings it wide in the trailer clips vs Ahsoka.

[@OllamhDrab]

(Though I expect a lot of this is simply that Baylan is a really big guy so he needs that long a hilt for a lot of his moves to work. He seems to rely on strength and precision rather than all that much speed. )

[@SophiaAphrodite]

Strength aligns with power. Agility aligns with precision. Strength does not offer precision

[@OllamhDrab]

@@SophiaAphrodite I said *speed.* However precise he may be he's still got a barrel-chested thing going on and needs that long hilt to do his cross-body stuff. Won't be the quickest moves but he's got kind of an economy of motion thing about it.

[@smokedog9677]

One thing I did like about Kylo Rens light saber is how it would kind of spark. In KOTOR game some of the red sith light sabers could be built where they would have other properties like emitting sparks to burn their opponent or shoot sparks into their face.

[@LordXerus]

Heck yeah! Most of us in the Saber Legion use two-handed hilts. It works better with the maximum length of the sabers we use: 51”. Some people use a one-handed style that is more like a fencing stance whereas the two handed styles resemble broadsword or kendo.

[@JRMcDowell]

why are none of these Star Wars fan pages discussing the RED Scroll at the start of the show, and what it could mean, considering they have been traditionally yellow and at a sharp angle. Could this be a sign that this is a story from the imperial view, or its a start of a new story putting the Skywalker story behind them, or it means nothing and I am reading more into this than I need too?

[@robimusprime8]

I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned in earlier comments. Baylans belt buckle looks like a kyber crystal tied on with some thin metal.

[@oweeenie1754]

I love that Hueyang (spelling debatable) pulls an Olivander/Voldemort exposition.

[@DrRippenShitten]

I thought it was Obi-Wan style because of the way he blocks blaster fire. It's the same way obi Wan would block... Also I noticed something after this video... The first episode was called Master and Apprentice, the book where Obi-Wan has the orange blade is also called Master and Apprentice... The fact that our introduction to Baylan and Shin was essentially a dark retelling of our intro to Qui Gon and Obi-Wan... THE THREADS OF FATE NEVER LIE

[@stevenmathews9355]

As Lucas would say, "it's like poetry, it rhymes."

[@scottharrop6720]

Partial bleeding makes sense to me. Baylan still wields the same lightsaber he used as an initiate, which makes it Kyber. Shin may actually be wielding another Jedi saber and was taught how to bleed that. Overall, with all the references of the Old Republic (and High Republic?), it seems like Filoni really does have something in the works. I didn't know Lucas' original plan was for something similar to Claymores. That implies that he has a great respect for George's original vision, as well as a fascination with written books and comics.

[@mmmmtoes5582]

Baylan uses the weight of the blade for speed, as he does not have the speed due to his age. Shin looks to me like she can go two ways, a smaller shoto like ahsoka or a bigger and heavier hilt. Her body structure is similar to ahsoka when she was a padawan so I’d guess another saber.

[@dacubanmofo]

Due to his age? Dooku was like 80 during the clone wars and he was incredibly fast and agile

[@alann4595]

yeah but he used that "fencing" stance right? and a very cute little lightsaber, age wise yea i dint see it, Yoda was old AF in clone wars and he just jumped around all kinds of walls during those fight scenes lol@@dacubanmofo

[@dacubanmofo]

@@alann4595 the force just prolongs peoples prime and allows you to fight longer

[@Kref3]

Weight of the blade? I always thought that the blade does not have any weight (which made the movements strange). In one of the now legends books - I don‘t remember which - it was written, that the really difficult thing is that one must swing a hilt with out any weight outside the hilt. Is there any canon source stating that blades have a weight?

[@jeffreyjohnson5964]

I wonder if notice that Ahsoka is aware of Baylans differences. When he charges at here she does a partial leg split planting her foot against a wall behind her. This would keep her from getting overpowered by him.

[@andylastname566]

She also uses 1 saber 2handed instead of her typical dual wield.

[@ronaldcobb1633]

You brought up Darth Treya. Those two games, Kotor and Kotor 2, taught me that you can't make everyone happy and shouldn't even try, especially people whose respect you desire. Be yourself. Let others be responsible for themselves. You would think I had learned that when I was much younger.

[@DrRippenShitten]

i took sooo much from her speech on Apathy and her speech about blind generosity. Everything has a reaction and the world is a Domino affect. Silence kills just as much as war. Doing nothing and doing too much achieve the same results. Don't rely on others but also don't separate yourself. Live in the middle. The centre is where truth lies.

[@dougheclipse1717]

I think the orange blades are pretty straightforward as to why. I think it's because they are not Sith. Not Sith nor Jedi so it wouldn't be fully bled with all the hate if it's not a sith so it wouldn't be crimson red.

[@thunder7breaker]

Yes, they seem more like Dark Jedi to me which is really interesting.

[@WolfmanVormand]

The Light Foil and a Great Saber. Love it!

[@Th3og0ny]

A little off topic but when I heard HK series droids are now canon in Episode 2, I was really hoping to hear a droid exclaiming his expression before speaking like "Statement:", "Condescending remark:", or "Inquiry:".

[@SophiaAphrodite]

Meat bag

[@damonfinken]

My thoughts about episode 4, I've heard nobody mention... Ahsoka lost the battle in order to send Sadine. She already knew Sadine's choice was to not destroy the map. Was she truly wanting the map destroyed? No. She knew there was another route. Watch as Ahsoka is on board dressed in the armor of the one we thought could have been Ezra. This would fit in many Star Wars patterns.

[@droid5785]

Bro she got Merced off a cliff and had NO clue she was going to go into some force meditate vs and survive long enough for a ship to come rescue her 😂 Believe in the Force tho right?

[@silversurfer8818]

Perhaps he can adopt HEMA, and for the first time in star wars history have real swordsmanship that is functional and efficient!

[@teovu5557]

Fun Fact: HEMA is not a real martial art but a recreation of extinct European martial arts in this case sword fighting based on old drawings and pictures with some descriptions in late medieval books. Thats like learning martial arts from a book you found in the library and trying teach self defense to someone while calling yourself a "master". lol Rather stick with Kendo which actually has a connection to Kenjutsu that was used in actual wartime in Japan and never went extinct. Now that is real functional and efficient sword style along with the various European extant systems like Fencing....While HEMA is a joke and is basically LARP'ing....no offense Also Star Wars episode 1-3 used traditional Kendo moves unlike episode 4-6 or the recent films which used fake acrobatic made up sword fighting for show.

[@r.shanethompson7933]

Master Splinter taught all four of mutant ninja turtles to be very proficient in several forms of martial arts by they time they had reached their teens with no more than an old ninja book he found in the goddamn sewer! Just saying...

[@teovu5557]

@@r.shanethompson7933 he taught them useless skills. The only reason they are strong is because of the Ooz that mutated them and granted then enhanced strength and abilities lol

[@r.shanethompson7933]

@@teovu5557 I seem to remember that they could really thrash on a skateboard as well but I think it was Master Gator who taught them that. They probably should have taught him that murder is bad but mistakes of youth and what not....

[@teovu5557]

@@r.shanethompson7933 master gator???....you mean master baitor right? Kuz master baitor is from the origin comic and from his essence was the origin of the ooz that mutated the turtles n splinter.

[@Steve_Kassiotis]

I would think a Kolon crystal would produce a brown blade.

[@TheDeChaser]

It's an interesting side note a month later to recognize how much Baylan is dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge relating to the force and answers including a dedicated student of Jedi history. In this video alone while we are all fixated on a hilt of a light sabre (also considered to be fashioned to resemble a relic from a bygone age) the close up images show that Baylan is wearing onyx jewlery (belt buckle and ring) that is inlaid with gold in a Kintsugi fashion, just like Thrawns Storm Troopers who have repaired their armor and even Thrawn's Start Destroyer in this way. If I had to guess, the jewelry Baylan is wearing is thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years old, and likely of either Night Sister or Zeffo origin. Just a thought. Thrawn had never met Baylan, he simply struck a deal with Morgan. It's clear now with only one episode left that even if Morgan and Thrawn think they are using Baylan, he clearly has a much bigger agenda then getting paid by them. He's found something old, that most anyone else would not recognize that calls just to him on this planet, so old that it's influence in his galaxy is long forgotten but is clearly still very alive in this new one.

[@jayvansickle7607]

So far…my favorite “new” characters are Baylan and Sabine. Baylan has such a cool presence. A great “replacement” (if you can call him that) for Jorrus C’Boath (if I spelled that correctly)

[@goodputin4324]

*Baoth 😊

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

I hope his hilt and blade are actually gonna be shown as longer and heavier when fighting like a montante, it would introduce the idea of different lightsabers having to be used differently not just every lightsaber being able to be wielded with one hand.

[@TheSilvertrigger]

Lightsaber🔦 registration leads to confiscation 😂

[@corujabiruta3732]

You are mistaken about Jedi Survivor orange saber in so many levels. First, the orange in the fist game is not really canon, it is just a game feature for fan service. second and this is more a fact than an opinion, the saber you described as being used by a bounty hunter, is not the saber of the bounty hunter, is the saber of Dagan Gera, that bode stole after Cal placed in his chest as a form of respect after his death. And it is red. The art direction from fallen order chose to portray the red color more orangy to give a sense of the old VHS movies when the tapes were unstable with color information. they also choose to make the blades all look unstable almost as kylo ren. IDK why they did such a poor decision, but you can see the damage already. You can understand this better after you see darth vader fighting against Cere and his saber is also "orange". The inquisitors as well. I was a lame choice from someone inside the job that thought this changes would be cooler and ignore consistence.

[@wyattfraga2213]

Thank you. I've been scouring for someone else to bring this up before I did. Its bizarre to me that this is still a talking point.

[@NovaeGal]

Ima say it you keep changing from Baylan to Baylon and it's so amusing 😂

[@ReoTharmus]

Minute 2:22 literally my Jedi master at work.

[@daviddent5662]

I don't know about others but personally Baylan's style reminds e of Vader's from the original triology where he would use techniques more associated with Zweihander and larger swords and then mix into it a quick cut as if holding a Katana. Note his tight defensive stances where he keeps his blade 'on line' with his attackers and don't deflect them back like you do with Shii Cho and other styles. It's for sure a purely aggressive stance but not purely Juyo. He's sort of found a nice mixture of the two styles of passive defense but a vicious sweeping cut. Though let's also give some credit to New Republic Troopers that they aren't much of challenge to a man who presumably shrugged off the Clone Wars. Baylan likely has fought droidekas and more just since leaving the Order. Shin's style on the other hand is very erratic changing up her grip constantly and she took more time to bounce bolts back at her foes though like her master was more about closing in for a quick finishing strike. Also note when she's fighting Sabine she wasnt feeling threatened which is why she went for a skewer that didn't target organs. Which is something we should address: Baylan says he wants to find Thrawn to gain power but also emphasizes to Morgan he doesn't want to kill her. It would in his words "A great loss. There are so few Jedi left." Which not only 100% confirms they aren't Sith but all but states they are Greys who have their own philosophy for attaining power. AKA Dark Jedi. Though I don't think they're a sect so much as what they show us in these two episodes: survivors. They aren't in this because they believe in the Empire or Thrawn they are here to obtain more power and live. Honestly I'm not just impressed but applauding their evolution. Between the Clone Wars and the Empire hunting them down more Jedi should feel as betrayed and the need to do what they must to survive. There is just one tiny detail bugging me. Who is Morrok? Why are they working with a Sith Inquisitor? Why does that Inquisitor have a name and alliance but still bear their bled blade? Episode Three is going to have to answer some questions here.

[@slewone4905]

I was going to say that. But back then , they didn't have the budget for great choreography, and Vaders imposing stance is different from Anakins more acrobatic attack. But for the movies. a slow methodic imposing enemy is scarier than yoda bouncing all over the place. speed do not allow you to savor the fear.

[@teovu5557]

Morrok seems similar to master baitor a former Jedi who survived order 66 kuz he was masturbating on a planet far far away during the massacre. But then again that was legends but I hope they canonize him. They have the same helmet n armor made of ebony condominium.

[@maalikhunter7365]

Morrok - Marek... and there was a Sam Witwer credit in episode 2 when the 'Inquisitor' was present in the series... do you see where I'm going with this?

[@valmid5069]

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[@arghjayem]

Didn’t the Jedi Temple guards wield orange lightsaber staffs? And I’m pretty certain that bot Yaddle and Plo Koon wielded orange blades at some point.

[@IMysticCobaltI]

Temple Guards have yellow ones

[@aceofspade2120]

I enjoy the way they used the different styles of lightsaber combat. He uses Form V, similar to Darth Vader, using overwhelming power to beat down an enemy, while Ahsoka uses a much more defensive style, similar to Obi-Wan.

[@junior1138]

In Legends, lightsabres were powered by ilium crystals named for the only planet they came from. Feloni is slowly bringing legends back in to canon. IIRC Ganner wielded a yellow bladed sabre and Lowbacca’s blade was orange.

[@fbi805]

Actually she did faced form 7, because Anakin while not an expert in that form did use it when he trained Ahsoka, not to mention Luke also trained in all of the Jedi saber forms and could have possibly at some point trained with Ahsoka prior to the start of the Mandalorian

[@Jeff-ne1lh]

This could have easily been an Old Republic story

[@rhenceocampo3253]

Literally every star wars fan overthinking every detail lol

[@LordMazafeff]

Most Jedi appear to be fencers or variants there-of. Baylan acts, looks and fights like a Knight.

[@mrbeans2425]

I donno why people hating on it so much.... I kinda enjoyed it... Someone had mentioned Baylan possibly using a different type of Crystal, but arent the Orange Sabers Orange because they have been Corrupted by the dark side. and when Red you are fully Dark... I could be wrong. didnt know there were multiple Crystals they can use..... Like In Jedi: Survivor when Dagan Bleeds his Crystal . Cuz arent their stories of Repurposing Crystals. Like as a Jedi you can Repair them back to the light, or as a Sith they can break them and bleed them causing them to go Orange and Red.

[@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV]

The Baylan long hilt makes sense if you fight two-handed like a katanna.... It's nice to see he has a proper katanna grip! Many actors hold a two-handed sword like a baseball bat, with both hands close together on the grip. Which lacks the leverage needed for powerful cuts... :)

[@sixgunsuperman]

Kohlen crystal sounds like something you might want to talk to a doctor about.

[@IvanPopov]

This makes me even sadder that Rey Stevens passed away and we won't see him as Baylan anymore ... unless they kill off the character in this season ... heck - even in that case.

[@ioldanach7]

I dunno how many ppl remember or if it would matter, but it may be worth noting that in Star Wars Galaxies an MMO from 2003, there were one handed, two handed, and polesaber skill trees with some different moves/animations, and styles, I never thought about it much before, as i think it was seeming to stray from canon at times, but just thought it was worth noting, and loving the Nightsister stuff because I spent a lot of time on Dathomir and loved the wildlife there in the same MMO Axkva Min battle, the NS strongholds, lots of fun.

[@Michael-fb1rl]

I just got done watching the first two episodes of the Ahsoka show and as someone who never really watched the Clone Wars animated show, I found this show Done quite well and the writing was very good and definitely more instep with George Lucas's vision of how Star Wars is supposed to be.

[@Michael-fb1rl]

@@Orion-V You are entitled to your opinion it is a free country, thank you for your input, I do enjoy others stating what they think. 👍

[@ML10456]

Wow the Baylan vs Ahsoka footage in this video confused me. “Did I miss this when I watched episode 1 and 2?” It is trailer footage.

[@Sin69420]

3:08 Their blades crystal is the ones that they were both given/found as when one bleeds their own crystal it has an orange effect more than red due to it being THEIR crystal. All red blades we see are not the users crystal but a crystal that the user stole from another to then bleed it and bend it to their will

[@johnsmithfakename8422]

I like the long hilt lightsaber. It is a design that faded away because it made the llightsaber a larger target, but it allowed for more space in the hilt for more tech/features in the lightsaber.

[@spartamarta4665]

i hope that these possibly new lightsabers and fighting styles and crystals will bring more variety of melee weapons to star wars, maybe in the near future we will see a lightsaber version of a spear or a pike

[@slewone4905]

we got shock pikes from the prequel. ok they are called electrostaff. And latter we got the nunchuck version of that.

[@spartamarta4665]

yeah but i am talking about like actual lightsaber blades at the end of long sticks lol @@slewone4905

[@curtisweber5257]

The Asian martial pike/sword style comes to mind. A six foot staff with a lightsaber at its tip could be devastating in the hands of a proficient weilder.

[@sdgagaasgasgg2693]

that orange-red lightsaber crystal reminds me of those crystals from SWTOR, specially those cored crystal.

[@cosmoray9750]

2:01 Notice his ring. It looks like some sort of K9...a wolf perhaps.

[@TheCaptmcspiffy]

Colon powered lightsabers....(facepalm)

[@aramere3650]

I love that this type of saber is now canon. I’ve been getting long-hilt sabers for years because the combat style suits me better.

[@newbehindthenerd]

What if Baylan's master was Qui Gon Jin and he's not the big bad?

[@Thunder-Ghost]

Well Thrawn is the big bad

[@jedimindbang9325]

Obi wan used it but it’s stated multiple times in that novel that it’s weaker than a kyber blade. It’s specifically useful in that situation to match the cholen shield resonance and pass through, but not able to duel with a kyber or synthetic kyber blade. It was also interchangeable with obi wans blade configuration meaning there was no reason to make The hilt heavier. Nor did they mention the cholen crystal itself being notably heavier

[@truemikhailov4162]

perhaps Baylens sabre is more akin to the EU Corran Horns sabre and have variable blade length setting, given filoni's attachment to legends

[@tedcowart6524]

Everyone gets caught up in the different Jedi lightsaber forms. But you've all forgotten the important part of being Jedi. Through the force, the force can guide you and adapt to any form regardless of training in any specific form. A Jedi flowing with the force in combat is more formidable than someone just going through the motions of any particular form. The force, we need to get back to the force.

[@zarcon85]

The EARLIEST Orange Lightsaber is used by Baron Orman Tagge in the Original SW /Marvel Comics. It was constructed by his Brother Silas, HeadScientist of Tagge Corp. Tagge is NOT a Force-User, but pretty skilled with it, as far as a mere swordsman can be, i guess.

[@arisuaozora]

This character have the vibe of count dooku. Also his apprentice as sev’rance tann

[@cmike123]

One of the cooler aspects of Fallen Order and that series of games is finding out what happened to the Jedi that survived Order 66. Really, the only ones that stayed as Jedi were Kenobi and Yoda. Everyone else either hid or stumbled around until they found other power sources. I hope they lean more into that aspect of the Star Wars mythos.

[@ragingoracle6239]

Is his saber orange because he was a Temple Guard at some point before going to the Darkside? RED +Yellow = Orange

[@ihaveacar]

Filoni and Favreau are running Star Wars now. One is literally George Lucas' apprentice and the other is a giant nerd. I think we good going forward.

[@dustingre8]

I’d like to add that Shin Hati is using Kanan Jarrus’ lightsaber.

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

No it’s just a similar design

[@dustingre8]

@@santi_super_stunts2573 So what evidence do you have for the contrary? Also, I wouldn’t say they’re similar, the only difference is the grip color. It even has the ring on the bottom. So you have evidence that governor Pryce destroyed or hid it after finding it before she herself was killed? 🤔

[@deadric4785]

RIP ray stevenson, he was my favorite live action punisher.

[@DoctorBored357]

Kohlen Crystals were also known as "Fool's Kyber" though because while it could cut through a Kohlen-powered shield, it was still found to be overall less effective than a true Kyber blade. I think Baylan and Shin's (And Dagan from Survivor) blades are that red-orange color due to the bleeding process or something similar. Since they're not fully-fledged committed darksiders, they simply couldn't completely corrupt the Kyber. Also, Ahsoka has encountered a Form VII user before in the Clone Wars. Darth Maul was stated to be master/near-master in Juuyo by Sidious and Ahsoka still defeated him.

[@willthrill94]

I didn’t even realize the sabers for shin/baylan were orange at all

[@Reclaimer_-_117]

I know its not gonna happen. But I fantasize about the maw of the space whale opening, and ahsoka seeing another star forge as revans theme kicks in. I would literally jump out of my seat and cry tears of frenzied ecstatic joy.

[@MrHodoAstartes]

Baylan seems to be very conservative in his style, but innovative in his approach. His fighting is beefy, but not unrestrained. I think his point is iterations on the known to find new paths, not accepting arbitrary restrictions and traditions, but taking what he finds useful. Nuanced in every way.

[@ManeInDaHat]

Well they obviously don’t have increased cutting power since that stab Sabine took was basically a paper cut

[@Bjswac]

Genius and Star Wars can no longer be placed in the same phrase

[@mariusconstantin6057]

She fought Maul and Inquisitors! She knows how to use Juyo

[@roblo2526]

In ep4 now, we saw that Baylor uses form 4 Ataru. And if he would have used Juyo, I want to remind you that Ahsoka fought Maul in Clone Wars, who was a form 7 specialist. Thanks for the video!😊

[@drwfigureadventures]

Ahsoka has gone up against Juyo before - Maul was a Juyo practitioner if I remember correctly.

[@chakrazoo]

Plo-Kun has an Orange at one time. I hope he is mentioned....my fave Jedi.....

[@godKiller.369]

I think Shin looked like a style one user when facing Sabine.. but she might just have treated the duel as basic practice.

[@Thunder-Ghost]

Yeah It looked like she just did it for fun toying with Sabine

[@drakethesnek6429]

Or form 5.

[@godKiller.369]

@@drakethesnek6429 Could be, but the wide swings seems a bit unrefined for a form five, and the repeated horizontal slash is a hallmark of form 1 I believe. She doesn`t quite push the attack like you would expect from form five either, breaking off after sequences even when she has gainned an advantage.. but again that could be Shin toying with Sabine. Or maybe as a padawan she has a base in form 1 and gaining proficiency in another form like 5 or 7.

[@DaftDrunk24]

Kohlen crystals sound like something painful

[@Pidalin]

I like that they finally mention different time periods like Republic, Empire, different fractions etc....they don't ignore whole history like in new movies. I wish to see some force users who can use dark side abilities (like lightning) but they are still more good and can controll their dark side, something like Kyle Katarn in games, that would be cool. Denying dark side is reason why everything went to shits and why jedi failed and why even Ahsoka fails. You can't fall into dark side when you already use dark side I guess. These 2 new force users are very interesting, you can see that they don't have sith yellow eyes and they still can think clearly, they are not those crazy rage dark side users as we saw before, but they are obviously more dark than light, I want to see someone who also uses dark side but who is slightly more ligh with more jedi lightsaber color or one saber red and second green or something, that would be cool. BTW, I how Balen will bring Thrawn back and restore order in galaxy, there is such a mess in galaxy now. 😀

[@Isometrix116]

Im hoping the change will end up being the use of more historically acccurate swordplay. I noticed a few real guards being used in Ahsoka, including (Vom) Tag (High guard, over the head), plow/longpoint (point forward), and neben (blade held in a forward grip with the point facing away from the opponent, held low) (in german). Because of convergent evolution of sword stances toward a few useful stances, these all exist in other cultures too. For example, Japanese sword stances include these. In the same order, Jodan, Chuden, and Waki. Using realistic stances allows for much more fluid combat sequences that require fewer cuts to make look good. Realistic sword combat is incredibly fast paced and looks amazing.

[@brianholcomb933]

Using Mike saber hilt as a sort of figure printing system also puts a new spin on inquisitors light sabers. They don’t have the original light saber. They have one that looks like everybody else is in it takes away their individuality while concealing their identity.

[@tnoinetwork]

Knowing that we lost Ray just absolutely SUCKS this man was AMAZING on the screen. RIP Brother losing you has created a serious disturbance in the force.

[@meatpuppet5036]

Ah genius, another word watered down until it means nothing.

[@dyent]

It's possible that we're all overthinking it, and the difference in Baylans lightsaber that made it relatively unique is that his was the first in a thousand years that was built to be a weapon of war rather than a tool of peace

[@carlinator92]

Baylan Skolls lightsabre also has the same sound profile as Darth Vaders lightsabre. I noticed but idk if it is significant.

[@lordgilfor16]

But still, lightsabers can't kill anyone anymore 😅

[@daystarzgaming3034]

Saber combat has been nice so far, if you discount that one scene, a 1m40 fight, with 20 seconds of actual combat, rest just staring at each other, very weird.

[@swcsomeonewhocares8707]

(Slight sarcasm) This would make sense since Shin's lightsaber has great slashing power but probably cold and has no danger to it. Didn't even need a Nightsister to bring Sabine back to life or need more than a day to fully heal. (Trying to make sense of surviving a blade that is usually 3000c-5000c or 5000F-10000F that would more or less vaporize anything that touches it)

[@marcelgrundman3124]

Yes! My HEMA and Star Wars passions can finally come together!!! This is one of the few moments I actually want to be a Jedi! Normally have a Mando passion, but a Knight/Mando mix would probably be my favorite. I’d definitely rock a hand a and a half saber! A one or two handed weapon…plus kyber or baskar shield! If you make or know someone with this idea please reference me!

[@timkeller7888]

She did face form 7, as Maul primarily used this form and she fought against him at least once

[@dhayden75]

It looks as if the laser fire is drawn to Baylan's light saber, especially since he doesn't swing it like other saber users.

[@jimbono3]

Baylan Skoll appears to be wearing Obsidian on both his belt and a ring, and from Dok-Ondar's Den of Antiquities we know Obsidian can be used in place of a Kyber Crystal to produce a red effect. I wonder if the orange is Filoni's spin on how to differentiate a corrupt kyber crystal and an obsidian shard being used. It also implies to me that Baylan has been to at least one place filled with Obsidian, which is the mirror cave that Rey visited, or more probable, Vaders fortress which was made from Obsidian, and may be the way that he figured out Anakin was Vader.

[@supertedogpriken]

Just a thought..... But in the "olden days" there was a few jedi that used a long lightsaber. Like really long: 2-3 meters. What if his Lightsaber is made to fight in a similar way.

[@shagrat47]

3:20 Did Super-Sabine just survive a Lightsaber stab through the center torso? Really? Through the intestines, Aoarta Abdominalis and the Spine? 😂😂😂

[@lw1391]

Plot armour is even stronger than beskar

[@peterbogardus1560]

Definitely missed the spine; we saw the exit wound. Gut wounds are not necessarily fatal.

[@Xantholne]

I think the style of combat for this heavier lightsaber will be closer to the crossguard stance in Jedi Survivor where it's incredibly strong, powerful and slow swings with an extremely powerful block with the main intent to be overwhelming the opponent with a strong brute force.

[@PontusWelin]

As a sword nerd, I just have to say something. It doesn’t really matter. But, both broadsword and claymore were one handed weapons that were actually pretty nimble. Sometimes the big two-handed swords were called that name too, but usually it will refer to something more nimble. In fact it is basically a broadsword with a basket hilt. The “broad” in broadsword probably refers to it being broad compare to the most common civilian sword at the time, the rapier.

[@PontusWelin]

Oh right! I forgot to write the most important thing. Long swords are very nimble and quick! Not slow or clumsy. They weigh maybe 50% more than a one handed sword but you use both hands (normally)