What Alexei Navalny really thought about Ukraine | Shahida Tulaganova

“He was never supportive of Ukraine and nobody knows if he became president if he would change his stance on Crimea.”
Ukrainians are divided on the legacy of Alexei Navalny, says Emmy award winning war reporter, Shahida Tulaganova.
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[@TheFurlus]

Oh, the sandwich again. Navalnaya, btw, spoke about the war in her first address to the Russians. Know your sources.

[@1994masja]

He apologised for his thoughts on Crimia. He was against the war. You don’t have to be a president to deserve a good life for after putin

[@tutnetam]

CIA told him to say so?

[@ashishIMpro]

He probably thought he could use western fools to grab power in Russia and then annex more of Ukraine. Remember that he had connections and was popular with far right groups. His view of Russia and it's neighbourhood was similar to Putin. He wanted to make Russia great again.

[@lilymay7171]

Navalny was never supportive of Ukraine?!! That’s an outright lie! He encouraged Russian people to stand up against the war in Ukraine! He was prepared to die (and did) for what he believed in and one of those beliefs was that he found the war in Ukraine abhorrent!

[@Joekd6.1]

Navalny said Crimea belongs to Russia!😂😂😂😂

[@martinogold]

Stop making things up.

[@tutnetam]

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@lilymay7171]

@@Joekd6.1 Navalny said Russia’s annexation of Crimea was illegal.

[@planet-karma]

@er6557 No he didn't. He said it couldn't be handed back and forth like a sandwich (admittedly not a great comment) - and that was after he said the annexation was illegal. He was also against the war and said that Ukraine should be returned to its 1991 borders.

[@ekaf1735]

Who is this woman? She is awfully uninformed on the issue. why would anyone ask her opinion

[@hungryghost3260]

Even further, her opinion is often laced with innuendo and hearsay. She sounds like a gossip columnist, not a proper political analyst.

[@endres5628]

The description says: Emmy award winning war reporter.

[@ekaf1735]

@@endres5628 Well, Emmy's trash now still doesn't say much

[@OksanaSzulhan]

Many of us have been hearing about Navalny's stance on Ukraine for years; he took advantage of the historical Ukrainian-russian problems to bring himself into the spotlight ( and did well ). I hope russians have finally woken up ! His father was Ukrainian.

[@planet-karma]

You mean that Russians shouldn't mourn him because he opposed the war and his father was Ukrainian? He wanted to free your rysskie narod as well as to get Russia out of Ukraine. Maybe the fact he was half Ukrainian is why he cared about the truth and was so brave.

[@irenec2863]

Times Radio- before you have a guest on, can you please ensure they are updated on latest facts regarding the topic? Latest polls show the majority of Ukrainian support Pres. Zelenskyy. And the General has also voiced his support for Pres. Zelenskyy. Pres. Zelenskyy has invited him to stay on the leadership team.

[@lilymay7171]

I agree. What a dreadful guest. She certainly didn’t do Ukraine any favours.

[@irenec2863]

@@lilymay7171 This isn't first time Times Radio has had an uninformed guest on making provocative comments regarding Ukraine. I will continue to call them out, even though I expect they're doing it on purpose.

[@lilymay7171]

⁠@@irenec2863I’m with you. Very bad form indeed.

[@rustyb6892]

@@irenec2863 Kate Gerbeau and Carole Walker are horrible hosts.

[@Tetiana.Vasylenko]

The guest said 💯 truth. If you don't like it, it doesn't make it false.

[@elisabethrydeholm4681]

I really think that the head line should be changed cause I for one didn't get an answer to what Navalny really thought! I've read about his 15-point plan for post war Russia in where the topic of Ukraine was addressed in The Moscow Times on March 7, 2023. There you can read that Navalny thought that Ukraine should go back to having its internationally recognized borders of 1991. "There's nothing to discuss", he added. Why isn't anyone addressing this? At least mentioning it? Everywhere I look, people are so stuck in his statements from a long time ago.

[@tboydot1]

In that case, his widow should speak up about it and clarify things with Ukrainians where her late husband really stood on the matter with Crimea

[@elisabethrydeholm4681]

@@tboydot1 Maybe she will in the course of time. Or his organization or close associates.

[@ekaf1735]

@@tboydot1 why does she need to say that if Navalny already said it himself?

[@lilymay7171]

Totally agree. Very poor form by this woman. Navalny encouraged Russians to stand up against the war in Ukraine. Not to mention her badmouthing of President Zelensky. All in all I think she’s done a terrible disservice to Ukraine in this interview and made herself look ignorant into the bargain.

[@tboydot1]

@@ekaf1735 Because it seems Navalny had a less public position on returning Crimea to Ukraine that the rest of the world needs to know.

[@xtrajently]

I would like to see those, criticizing Navalnaya, try giving a speech before a room full of high ranking politicians, five minutes after being told that their closest person was killed. Criticizing someone, with zero sympathy or respect to the person in such a circumstances, says much more about the ones doing the criticizing.

[@user-oy5mm3pb2g]

A traitor deserves no regard. He is a CIA agent and not expected to live this long if he is an American working for Russia.

[@tutnetam]

He was CIA AGENT! stop this nonsense

[@tekannon7803]

Changing generals before the next phase of the war is probably going to be a good thing. The first general has done a very good job and he has probably set things up where a new guy coming in can get right down to business. Let us not forget that 24 months heading an army who are fighting for the existance of one's county is exhausting and putting someone else in charge who has fresh ideas and is not war-fatigued sounds like a good idea. We have to remember that President Zelensky has also been running the show for 24 months and the amount of death and destruction and fear and rage and all that goes with being the Commander-in-Chief is taxing to say the least. All we know is that the war rages on and the next few months are going to see things getting ramped up to levels never seen before. It is time to be solidly supporting the Ukrainain President. Slava Ukraini

[@ashishIMpro]

LOL

[@cloggietony]

Who is this woman? Who is she representing?😮

[@endres5628]

The description says: Emmy award winning war reporter. Producer/Director: "Freedom on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom", "Ukraine's Stolen Children" etc.

[@-svet-ka-]

Since he became a politician Navalny, as any intelligent person, grew as a person and developed his views with experience. He had said many inappropriate things but he admitted his mistakes and declared his views in his manifesto last year. So, stop judging him on his old statements, he evolved since then. As to Yulia Navalnaya, cut her some slack, it has been less than 2 weeks since her husband was murdered. And during this time she had to deal with lots of problems, like helping her mother-in-law retrieve Alexey's body from his prisoners' claws. Not to mention grieving. Give her time and she'll make all the statements people expect from her.

[@tutnetam]

He was CIA AGENT! stop this nonsense

[@tutnetam]

Yulia Nav has been living with ANOTHER MAN since Nav was jailed! She NEVER VISITED HIM IN JAIL! (Nav mom said). Navalny was a CIA AGENT! stop this nonsense

[@-svet-ka-]

@@tutnetam Don't judge everyone by yourself. Yulia came to Alexey at every opportunity, there are video recordings of this, look up on the internet. Only they were allowed visits very rarely, because Navalny was constantly kept in isolation for any minor offense. Do you know how many days he spent in the punishment cell? More than 300 days in the last 2 years.

[@user-wj6dt5bq3w]

Yes, he "grew" toward adopting US positions to be a better CIA operative.

[@ThorneyedWT]

Major reason to fire Zaluzhniy was his disagreement with USA/NATO view on war and, of course, lack of progress on frontline. Meanwhile two most successful Ukrainian operations (in Kyiv and Kharkiv regions) were planned and conducted by Syrskiy. So he is more than worthy of chief position. And if it helps to get better relations with partners and get more support, it is very good move for Zelenskiy. Zaluzhniy also has bright future ahead. Nobody said anything bad about him, he can continue military career or go for politics, either way people will support him.

[@cazza6944]

Free Julian Assange

[@josephphoenix1376]

SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦

[@davidboskett5581]

Navalny was a politician and he was probably not going to gain much support by implying Crimea was not Russian territory considering how popular the annexation was among the general public.

[@tutnetam]

He was CIA AGENT! stop this nonsense

[@marina12345678911000]

Yep, that is very logical. For the same reason, he was marching with Russian nationalists chanting antisemitic slogans and made jokes about Georgian people.

[@hungryghost3260]

To be fair, Navalny waffled on a lot of positions.

[@WangMingGe]

He waffled based on western opinion/money but he never fully abandoned his Russian imperialism or hatred towards Ukrainians, Georgians, etc. @@hungryghost3260

[@timonsolus]

Navalny’s view was that there should be a free and fair (UN approved) referendum in Crimea on its future. Not an unconditional return to Ukraine without consulting the people living in Crimea.

[@boink800]

Rather, just give the territory back to Ukraine. The Saarland case was a very good example to follow: 1) independent country, 2) stay in Ukraine or 3) be a part of Russia.

[@TheFurlus]

this is what "sandwich" was about: yes, Putin did a horrible thing, but there are people who live in Crimea (and who committed crime by submitting to Russia) and who shouldn't be responsible for Putin's and Russia's actions.

[@lilymay7171]

Navalny said that many years ago. He stated not long after that Russia’s annexation of Crimea was illegal. It was also many years ago that he stated that Ukraine should be returned to its 1991 borders. His stance on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was that he found it abhorrent and encouraged Russians to stand up against it. This woman has done Ukraine no favours at all with her lack of updated knowledge of Navalny’s current views, her incorrect statement that Ms. Navalnya did not speak up about Ukraine, and slamming President Zelensky. As a supporter of Ukraine, I’m all but horrified with this interview.

[@lilymay7171]

@@MelBelle55you’re welcome. I will try to add one of his speeches below for you, but it quite often is deleted by youtube. Ive had limited success misspelling one of the words. He said this at one of his later court sentencing hearings after the war in Ukraine had begun.

[@davidwright5094]

How might one define "the people living in Crimea" in the current extreme circumstances (in which large numbers have recently fled for their lives; others been financially incentivized and bused in from the invading country, and so on)?

[@lw1zfog]

GCHQ have really been squeezing this lemon

[@mauranolan843]

Defending 30p is disgraceful .

[@holycannoli64]

Gonzalo Lira had an interesting stance on crimea too.

[@MikeSimpson1]

This woman is inarticulate. She says Ukraine has "no weapons" and she called Zaluzhny the former "chief of staff." Both of these are wrong.

[@xtrajently]

So Navalnaya, a minute after being told that her husband was killed by Putin, should have been talking about Ukraine? Excuse me, but she has the right to greave like she wants. Moreover, except one “sandwich” phrase, which was eluding to practicality of returning the Crimea to Ukraine, which does have a lot of real world difficulties, Navalny 100% opposed to the operation and the annexation of Crimea, not to mention the full force invasion in 2022. If we condemn a politician on one unfortunate statement, made a decade ago, we won’t have any viable, electable politicians, not in Ukraine nor anywhere else.

[@tutnetam]

Yulia Nav has been living with ANOTHER MAN since Nav was jailed! She NEVER VISITED HIM IN JAIL! (Nav mom said). Navalny was a CIA AGENT! stop this nonsense

[@marina12345678911000]

He was marching with Russian nationalists chanting antisemitic slogans and publicly made racist jokes about Georgian people too.

[@mediastudiesnetwork]

Good to know this deeper take on Navalny.. the reporting lacked depth as it often does on Russian politics and culture

[@StPiter111]

What did Gonzalo Lira think about an Ukrainian corruption and Bidens? 😎

[@paulthomas-hh2kv]

Amercan congress know exactly what is and has been going on in Ukraine

[@ElsjeMassyn]

WHO IS THIS WOMAN WHAT DOES SHE KNOW - WAS SHE A FRIEND OF NAVALNY, DID SHE KNOW HIM PERSONALLY ??

[@hungryghost3260]

This guest's opinions are just a little "off," particularly about the switching out of the generals. The outgoing general WAS fundamentally trained in the Soviet style: he was NOT a paragon of a NATO or any other kind of western officer. Attending a few NATO workshops does not make him western. Sitting on his *** until late June 2023 was a disgrace: NATO wanted him acting decisively back in late April 2023. I think Zelensky was told that his general's smug inaction was not acceptable. The incoming general was also in command of the brilliant defense of Kyiv city and Hostomel Airport: give credit where credit is due. That was the first big victory for Ukraine that made us all dare to believe that Ukraine could survive. I can't put my finger on it, but her agenda is different. She insinuates more than she informs, but projects this ugliness on to other people, and even thin only as rumors. "A lot of people say..." and "Some people think..." A poll in Ukraine revealed that most Ukrainians sensibly DON'T want an election and possible change in leadership in the middle of their struggle for survival. Even Ukrainians who liked the outgoing general also supported Zelensky. Like I said: there is something "'off' about this old woman's heart, her agenda is obscured.

[@helenabright5741]

Excuse me! Mr Alexei Navalny has Ukraine blood in his family's DNA. Where's this utter tosh coming from. He was against any kind of war. He stood for HOPE & WORLD✝ PEACE. Surely. 🙏🌠God Bless MR ALEXEI NAVALNY. Where is your respect for him.

[@jackie4286]

Very good speaker

[@Scar626]

3:28 - Yeah, you weren't aware because of your Eco chamber and bubble you live in. I for one and a few others left it in your comment section numerous times, but it was probably look at and though: "Ah, this isn't safe for consumption." You see, for people like you, when you see a piece of news that's not approved by your government, you don't believe it, do you? To go against them would require a bit of bravery and backbone and not sure you have those. Much easier to just go with the flow.

[@user-xh2yg4uv9q]

How about Europe pony's up rather than just whining that America isn't giving away enough?

[@gregmchale5011]

The Americans have abandoned Ukriane, I do not expect any suPport will be given to Ukraine... the Americans... are more aligned with Russia!!!

[@luckylu9890]

👍

[@essentialvermeer]

Q

[@colleenmowat3034]

Remember David and Goliath

[@centaurus5676]

Nobody is alive to remember that.

[@marina12345678911000]

It is a war between Ukraine, supported by the West, and Russia, supported by the rest and supplied by Iran and North Korea. In this scenario, who plays the role of David who fought alone?

[@centaurus5676]

Russia has a right to defend itself against 32 countries.

[@JaneSoole]

This is the gigantic fly in the ointment for me regarding Navalny.

[@invisipics]

This is a woman who should be interviewed more often about what is happening in Ukraine. Several interesting pieces of information here that no one else has covered in all the interviews I've seen over the past two years.

[@hannayarotskaya1975]

Very misleading statement! Very untrue. Zelenskyy ratings were in high nineties, after 2 years of war it is still way above 50 - what she is talking about….

[@user-gd7lc4ln4y]

not true. it was around 3.4%.

[@nicktechnubyte1184]

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@tutnetam]

🐷🐷🐷🐷🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@timonsolus]

I believe that the Russian army should leave Crimea (and Donbas), and the regions should be occupied by UN international (non-Western) peacekeeping forces. Not by the Ukrainian army. Then after 6-12 months, the UN should conduct referendums in both areas, giving the people the chance to choose their own future, without compulsion or intimidation from either Kyiv or Moscow.

[@crocolagerfelden6142]

That doesn't work like that. Crimea has been under occupation for 10 years now, lots of Russians moved to Crimea over the years and many Ukrainians left. If you do a referendum with any small or big majority of current residents voting for Russia, you would make it clear that illegally annexing territories is worth the effort, because forced russification will do its job and "legitimise" occupation over time. This is why international law must be upheld. Moreover, many Russian minorities in the post-soviet space are there due to forced russification during Soviet and Tzarist times and therefore Russia can use it to lay claims on these territories, too. One other example, Kaliningrad, is mostly Russian because ethnic Germans were forcibly removed after WWII. You cannot simply solve these issues with referenda, it only makes the case for further conquest.

[@user-nr4zn8ib7j]

@@crocolagerfelden6142 Try a referendum in Kaliningrad, whether the current residents would want to belong, Russia or Germany. The results may surprise you.

[@timonsolus]

@@crocolagerfelden6142 : Any Russians that have moved to Crimea since 2014 should not be allowed to vote in the referendum. They are not Crimean citizens, they are Russian immigrants (foreigners). Only people who were residents of Crimea in 2013, as confirmed by local government records, and who can prove that they are residents of Crimea at the time of the referendum, should be allowed to vote. So Russians who have moved to Crimea after the Russian takeover can't vote, and Ukrainians who have left Crimea since 2014 and have not yet returned can't vote either. Hence the 6-12 month delay before any referendum to allow any Ukrainians who fled the Russian occupation enough time to return home before the referendum.

[@timonsolus]

@r4zn8ib7j : Yes - a UN-run referendum, not a Russian-run one. However, the result would achieve nothing, since Germany would not accept Kaliningrad back (because Poland would be offended). If Kaliningrad were not to be Russian any longer, then Poland would claim it, not Germany.

[@alenakrav]

Sorry, but as a Ukrainian I respectfully disagree. Crimea is internationally recognized Ukrainian territory. People are free to move out if they do not want to live in Ukraine. And the UN is mostly a laughing stock for most of Ukrainians, it is not a reliable institution by any means and should have been dismantled by now. It is clear to anyone following international politics. Why should we trust any of their “peacekeepers” or referendum watchers?

[@sergekudrynskyj6662]

Navalny, true to form, as most Russians are, was against Crimea being part of Ukraine. Therefore his democratic ideology was suspect. Also, he suffered from the Russian anti-Ukraine mental disease that is endemic with 85% or more of Russians since 350 years ago, the reason for which should be a subject of study by experts. Greed is a considerable factor, but not the only one.

[@xinma6034]

He sick and passed away just accident

[@user-sm1eu1sl1r]

ask Julian Assange what he really thinks of Britain. and Gonzalo Lira that died in Ukrainian jail can not be asked for his thoughts about Ukraine. you know why? because MI6 does not takes critics very well.

[@twl107]

🇷🇺 Ukraine is a money pit

[@geofsharp658]

Where was Navalny educated? He had no chance of being elected he was planted there to disrupt, he had about 7% support hardly an opposition.

[@maneshipocrates2264]

He was a Russian Ultra nationalist like pootin. But loved his country

[@timonsolus]

Navalny was pro democracy and anti authoritarianism. So not like Putin.

[@user-nr4zn8ib7j]

And like most Ukrainians are Ukrainian nationalists.

[@OksanaSzulhan]

putin isn't a " nationalist ". putin is a murdering dictator.

[@tutnetam]

He was a CIA AGENT

[@13thbiosphere]

95% maybe more of Russian Society agreed Crimea was a part of Russia and they applauded the takeover

[@boink800]

Shouldn't that be 99.98 percent, as it was in the USSR era?

[@user-ib9ky2jo9h]

lol and 100% of zombies enjoy eating brains

[@timonsolus]

Yes. But 95% of all Russians in 2014 is not the same thing as 95% of people living in Crimea in 2014, is it? The Russians who weren’t living in Crimea in 2014 do not deserve any say in the matter, they are not Crimeans.

[@centaurus5676]

Correct.

[@endcapitalism5274]

This woman doesn't know what she is talking about. The situation for Ukraine on the frontline is not bad, it has never been better before. Millions of Russians killed, billions wounded and trillions taken prisoner. Ukraine tactically withdrew from Bahmut, Lisichansk and Avdeevka to establish defenses on more superior positions and continues to do such manoeuvres every day, getting closer to Kiev, where is closer to the West, so that is easier on the supply lines.

[@jeanlucdom5398]

Russia lost already failed propaganda back fires 🤣🤣🤣