What are Echo Chambers?

[@HealthyGamerGG]

Link to the full video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/moi2ZHRoeqaqis0

[@christopherp.8868]

Can you please talk about PSSD? I'm trying to spread awareness

[@5uperM]

I've been in places that want to create echo-chambers, but refuse to accept that they're doing anything wrong.

[@Phrew]

„But I‘m feeling good here and I like it“ is mostly the way people feel about being in an echo chamber or safe space. But sadly, reality doesn‘t care how people feel, it will still just be reality. Which will in turn make those people turn to their safe spaces. After a while any slight inconvenience becomes such a big issue for them that they try to never leave said spaces.

[@snubblebubble4937]

I lived in an environment like that in college and it became incredibly toxic. Certain people were very hostile towards anyone who didn't fit perfectly into the little box that they wanted their "safe space" to look like. It was absolutely miserable and I ended up transferring schools partly because of the situation.

[@5uperM]

@@Phrew for me one instance was "we have rules against posting political and controversial stuff. but we won't enforce the rules until the drama starts" so as long as everyone has the same belief no rules are being enforced.

[@mannythemaniac1009]

Reddit, Discord, Twitter, etc

[@vanjamenadzer]

@@mannythemaniac1009 This is why I left 9gag after being on it for 10 years. I tried explaining to them that they are in an echo chamber and should be aware of it (regarding war in Ukraine topic). They would also use number of upvotes as a legitimate proof of validity.

[@tenki-no-ko]

This is true. I like my online experience to be positive only so I block or mute everyone that brings negatively to my timeline. For this reason, I make a priority to live life offline as well and talk to people in person as much as possible. You’d be surprised how some of the biggest controversies online are completely unknown by your average neighbor or coworker. It’s only a big deal online in your own echo chamber.

[@kzumf]

Blocking and muting negative things contributes to creating your own echo chamber. Learn to deal with negativity and try to understand other people's perspective. But I agree with the second part.

[@tenki-no-ko]

@@kzumf I generally agree with you that people should not block out information they don’t want to hear and learn how to listen to people with empathy and differing perspectives. I wasn’t talking about differences on opinions because that isn’t necessarily negative. I meant negativity as in toxicity, harassment, violence, bigotry and mindless bandwagoning behavior. I don’t think it’s necessary to waste energy on dealing with that online when I simply want fun entertainment. If I wanted to have a discourse or defend someone then sure, learn how to deal with that negativity. Edit: to clarify, I purposely create an echo chamber of positivity and interest. I think this is fine as long as one doesn’t become overly dependent or too distant from the rest of the world.

[@jazzyj7834]

I'd also like to argue that some of the "biggest controversies" online are not known by the average person because the average person is not aware of what is going on in the world. Sure, when it comes to something petty like what some celebrity said in a twitter post, that's dumb and nobody should care. But there's a lot of things that most people are woefully ignorant of because they choose to ignore things that conflict with their current worldview. Freedom of speech is meant to protect the equality of ideas. Every idea is given equal opportunity to make it's case. Be careful what you censor in your own life, you might be causing the very problems you are trying to prevent.

[@KanohiVahi]

​@@kzumf But there is so much pointless negativity and drama online though. I think disengaging from that is healthy and we don't need to learn to deal with it.

[@KanohiVahi]

​@Blanca Twitter is so damn toxic to my mental health dude. I almost instantly feel worse when I go there. Especially because I switched browser and for some reason it now pushes tons of stuff from people I don't follow to me. You made a good decision!

[@Manticorn]

I like to avoid echo chambers, and my friends are confused sometimes why I remain friends with each of them at once when they have different opinions on controversial topics. Sometimes they can kinda think the other guy is stupid. BUT it's hard to maintain a chamber that does not echo when the hot button issues of the day are like whether or not I (a queer person) should exist. Those disagreements are not negotiable.

[@IHateAnime_]

I feel this so hard. I try to overlook certain things some of my friends say sometimes. Sometimes it's just a poor choice of words, a weird distasteful joke, and other times it's just a vehement polarizing point of view, that I could never be comfortable with. Outside of that, I know they can be chill and likeable, but I often question myself about how I should feel about this.

[@Heccintech]

My dude plays “its just a burning memory” at the last second of the video

[@SamayGhosh]

By the time gen z gets old (like 50 - 60) there's gonna be so much research done on long term mobile phone/internet impacts, the data would be so Horrifying I just hope it'll be a valuable lesson for generations to come

[@_Chessa_]

Unless we humans go nuclear. 😅

[@SamayGhosh]

@@floppathebased1492 😆😆 I will tho

[@HealthyGamerGG]

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[@wyattpearce]

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[@Nerdude10]

A harsh, yet difficult reality we’re all living in. One of the only ways from striving away from this negativity, or anything of that matter, is by talking about it & learning why it isn’t healthy. Though I believe that’s gonna be quite the tall order to fill

[@ViCT0RiA6]

Your content definitely is one of the few that is actually helpful and positive

[@SRHisntSilent]

Fs It's mainly negative shit online Once you see that happening, time to unfollow toxic posts and block those content producers

[@ooreoluwaa]

exactly why I deleted Twitter

[@ooreoluwaa]

Forgiveness is for yourself!!! not for the other person. loved this video

[@ooreoluwaa]

indifference > hatred

[@wortwortwort117]

Its not natural for us as humans to be aware of so many other peoples thoughts and opinions. For most of our history you would grow up and die young only ever seeing your friends, family, and anyone else in your village and not many other people ever. When you are angrily commenting about something you may see them as a random ignorant internet troll but your brain sees them as a tribemate our brains dont response well to having disagreement with people, because in the past that meant you were getting kicked out the tribe (and you die). In terms of spreading ideas the internet is great but it has ruptured our social fabric in an irreparable way.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

I miss ten years ago when the internet wasn't trashed. I miss my old crunchyroll when it was illegal, I miss my chatango chatrooms with faceless friends, I miss shitposting and lightheartedness. Now all I get is hate and stress and anger thrown in my face all day. I already face prejudice, hatred and abuse irl for existing as a trans person. Now I can't even escape to what was once a cultural safe space for us.

[@intradibles]

Well, that's because we are in what Neil Howe calls the Fourth Turning.

[@valeriegreco3459]

Most times that step we are afraid to take might just be the right one. I thank you Dr Ofenmu for your encouragement and for not letting me down through that whole process . Your medication to treat genital herpes is super awesome I am glad I came across your channel on KZbin

[@VeetiM]

Yo this is almost exactly like what I mentioned in a comment in a precious video!

[@pilotintraining18ify]

Ehhhh but there is equally 1000 people who tell you your wrong.

[@hydrodude10]

Love you

[@Devora_Shadowolf]

I stopped watching the news because the amount of negativity in it was unbearable to me. Now I see I just replaced it with my scroll time...

[@0315n]

Your "buy super thanks" is overlapping the captions

[@luckartist]

what you kind of described isn't an echo chamber, but an epistemic bubble. The distinction is pretty important and written about in a paper: "ECHO CHAMBERS AND EPISTEMIC BUBBLES" by C. Thi Nguyen

[@Dr.W.Krueger]

twitter, reddit

[@funkykong9001]

Thank you for the woman in blue walking. Very engaging ;)

[@_Chessa_]

I’m my own echo chamber. 😅

[@lolekpllolekpl7560]

Anything furry or anti furry extrimist related

[@BartyTheParty]

What Doc K said at the beginning is exactly why I brush it off my shoulder whenever some dude in his late 50's says that my generation is a bunch of softies. No, we just have different issues. Issues that they probably aren't equipped to deal with either in a lot of cases.

[@TES-541]

I think the statement that the world is becoming an objectively harder place should be challenged. When infant mortality is down, and tons of other indicators, it’s not so cut and dry. Would you rather live in the 60s or 70s where tons of wars and genocides were happening throughout the world? And you thought civil rights were bad now? How do you think trans people were treated when you were born? Hell my parents were born when black people couldnt vote. For some it was easier, usually middle class white people (I’m one myself), and for many others harder. Our problem today is that we are in some respects the reason the world feels harder today. We are addicting ourselves to social media, most of which we don’t need. Even those of us who need it for business, use it 100x more than we need to. We are addicted to mass media on our phones, we live sedentary lifestyles, and like you often say, lack internal meanings because we distract ourselves. And there are plenty of people who aren’t required to do work while at home. I’m not saying this is all our fault, just saying that you say the world is worse off now like it’s common sense. But it’s us that raising our kids and ourselves worse. Just like how kids are objectively safer now than they were in the 70s and 80s (look at crime stats), but they became helicopter parents who won’t let kids even play outside away from adults anymore because they coddle kids and stress them out.

[@Phrew]

A lot of whataboutism, a lot of relativization. Just because it‘s not as difficult today as it was 50 years ago, doesn‘t mean it‘s suddenly not difficult. Let alone that it‘s difficult in a completely different way, what has mortality to do with the constant psychological burden of having access to the internet and being verbally attacked, insulted and harassed all the time? Things that were a problem 50 years ago are no longer a problem. Now we‘re dealing with the issues we have right here and now. And you can‘t be real about blaming people for getting addicted to social media, that shit is literally designed to get you addicted. Same thing as drugs, including cigarettes and alcohol. No one starts doing any of it to become addicted. We’re constantly pressured by society to partake in social media. „What do you mean, you‘re not drinking alcohol?“ vs. „What do you mean, you‘re not on Facebook?“. Same thing.

[@TES-541]

@@Phrew did you read what I wrote? I said that the statement that todays world is objectively worse, as if it’s 100% fact, should be challenged. I didn’t say the world wasn’t difficult today. And what does mortality have to do with our psychological burdens today? Well considering mortality has always been one of the fundamental difficulties we’ve wrestled with including in psychology, I’d say it still very much matters. Issues surrounding death is still constantly focused on as a gigantic existential problem in all of the social sciences for a reason. And as far as the social media part, you’re correct which is why I just said it’s different but it’s also self caused by us as people. And also, you know, people do cut down on social media use or even get off of all of it or most of it. And do we want to say social media use is as addicting as alcohol or cigarettes. Perhaps, I’m not sure. But there’s a huge difference in my opinion between self caused problems like ours, vs problems we have no way of affecting. I don’t believe in the narrative that we are determined by everything, so even with social media use, as tempting as it is, we have a ton of power to either stop using it or at least curtail it or bend it to our needs. Again, I’m not saying it’s not incredibly hard. I was just challenging the notion that today is so much harder than other eras of the past. Life is and always has been insanely hard. There’s never been a time in history it wasn’t for the vast majority of people.

[@TheCheesedodo]

Tons of wars and genocide is happening right now. You just don't consume news media that tells you about it

[@ClearBlueSky1]

I agree its not 100% harder , but i do believe that its become harder on our mental health somehow and in the past it was much harder on our physical health or people just had shorter lifespans.

[@JoseRRodriguez]

@@Dimitris_Half metawhataboutism is missuse of "whataboutism"

[@namenlosNamenlos]

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[@jonlee580]

Has nothing to do with racial and economic inequality

[@southnoon5808]

absolutely not not at all kapp