What are Harvey Maps

[@arthuredeson3824]

"If English isn't your first language" - English is my first language and I still found this enlightening!

[@truthboomertruthbomber5125]

You can tell an American from a Brit just by hearing them speak their common language 🧐

[@MargaretUK]

I'm not a hill walker, and as I'm getting on a bit I'm not likely to be, but I love these videos. I learn something new every time, and get to see wonderful scenery, what's not to like? Thank you Wayne, and don't ever stop waffling 😊

[@MargaretUK]

@@pepwaverley2185 What a lovely comment, thank you for your encouragement 😊 You're right, I do need to get out more.

[@Arizona-Sonoran-Desert-Guy]

I'm an American, and English is my first language, but I still learn from these videos, i.e., cliff vs. crag, icon vs. symbol. It's good that you keep in mind that some of your viewers are non-native English speakers. So, in this video, I learn about colorful Harvey maps and a bonus waffle second video based on the Ribblehead Viaduct and its link to American history.

[@Seamus3051]

Once again, Mr Naylor, thank you for an informative and clearly narrated video. I never to fail to learn from your presentations. Cheers.

[@InfernalPasquale]

We all LOVE your waffling. Please keep it in the videos, it is a joy to listen to and learn something from

[@harveymaps1928]

Thoroughly enjoyed this, thank you Wayne!

[@Hector-vx5yc]

Hi Wayne, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!! You’re an awesome educator, I absolutely love watching your work I’ve learned so much!! I loved your previous video it’s awesome!! It felt like I was there with you on that historic journey!!👍🏿❤️💯 strength and honor my friend be well!! From Washington state!!🇺🇸

[@markperry222]

Very useful to know. I had never heard of Harvey maps before.

[@langdalepass]

Another great video 👍👍

[@g.w.moorman3887]

There is a map company in the U. S. called Purple Lizard. One gripe I have is that they do NOT have water towers or radio/TV broadcasting antennas on their maps! Those are some of the tallest, most visible things in the landscape!!

[@mandyhutchins4598]

I actually enjoy the waffle it makes the whole video rather interesting and enjoyable. Excellent as always.

[@shaunmorrissey7313]

Harvey maps are superb, the shading just makes the terrain pop.

[@TheAntibozo]

I've come to look forward to each new video from you quite keenly. Your essays are truly entertaining and highly informative. Thank you! 🐿

[@philflycam]

HI Wayne, I started watching your videos this time last year, ive found them brilliant and have helped me this year do my silver and gold NNAS map reading courses , ive had a map in my hand permanently over the last 12 months, you've really helped me understand the theory and the practical side of map reading, along with the courses I have done with Austin and Linda at Peak navigation, I carry on watching and re watching all your short films as reminders and points of reference, i still pick up little nuggets of gold from you. im competent but feel I still have a lot to learn about navigation, I love this one on Harvey maps as ive only really used OS 1:125 maps, although there was a few questions on the gold NNAS coarse about Harvey maps, thanks very much for your professionalism and your knowledge and the fact you pass on all of this freely on you tube , keep up the good work. Phil

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

Gold NNAS - that a brilliant achievement

[@paulmatthews4293]

I really like the clarity of Harvey's. I also like that they are waterproof, though I do find them a little delicate despite that. I like that they cover less on a map, keeping them smaller and easier to handle. I just wish they covered more of the country.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Lamfold OS maps are waterproof.

[@paulmatthews4293]

@rogerphelps9939 and bulky and awkward to manage. I have plenty of them.

[@Seamus3051]

Many thanks.😄❤

[@Useaname]

Great. Never heard of these maps. Thank you.

[@1000Skills4Survival]

Great stuff, usefull content of a professional user.

[@BuckMckawtheotherone]

Always enjoyable.

[@andrewskowronski6283]

One challenging event, is cold temperatures, physical exercise, layers of clothing, with Chicken Vegetable Soup. 20 minutes later and your searching for the LOO. Wind blocked by a Cliff or Crag facing the Sun is preferred Harvey or OS Mapping is now ignored. Cheers!

[@inregionecaecorum]

I used to like Bartholemew's half inch maps, would you believe my dad used them navigate country walks?

[@karlthompson5970]

Thank you for the tutorial, it was really informative.

[@williamw7847]

Excellent as ever, thanks. Don't get rid of the waffle! Chicken and veg soup might be good for the trail, but isn't the washing up afterwards a bit ... challenging?

[@philipoakley5498]

In the likes of Skye where it's more mountainous the contour lines change colours depending on the ground type. This is really good for seeing the rocks for the grass. And the Skye Ridge map even goes to a 12,500:1 scale, so 8cm per km, 8mm/100m, 1mm =>12.5m, and in places it's still not quite enough!

[@Martycycleman]

Very interesting 😊

[@jerry2357]

Harvey maps are great for walking on the hills, but although they show field boundaries high up on the hills, they don't show them for enclosed pasture in the valleys. So they are not as good as an OS 1:25000 map (or one of the footpath maps published by Stile Maps, more recent editions published by Bradwell Books) for following a footpath across a succession of small fields in the valleys of the Yorkshire Dales. As far as I remember, the 1:25000 Harvey maps are just direct enlargements of the 1:40000 maps, and don't show any more detail (but I could be wrong).

[@timlarson4315]

Your hiking pants look pretty cool. Please make a video highlighting your gear. Be well.

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

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[@stewartgregson8479]

I use and prefer Harvey maps for walking, I just find I can visualise the lay of the ground easier from them. That said I have the os app on my phone so got the best of both worlds.

[@milesjcarter]

Not sure I agree with the crag vs cliff definition, I'd say a crag is a subset of cliff that is part of a mountainside

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

I may be wrong (my wife tells me I am wrong in most things), but I would say a crag is an outcrop that is climbable - not sure that is a real word.

[@causewaykayak]

Two things. Surely these private map makers are piggy backing on the exhaustive surveys done over the years by OS technicians. Then and secondly, any chance of doing a video on using maps gridded for UTM. They seem to be the norm in some countries. If thats not possible, ok Thanks for all the excellent stuff and the charming gobbets of history. Your side stories really do bring places to life. Witness the approval ratings you get for the them. 👍🏽

[@philipoakley5498]

They (Harvey's) do their own _photogrammetry_ to hand plot contours, so aren't dependent on OS mapping (beyond the deviation of the Airy Spereroid from the GPS coordinate system).

[@rk5941]

I started listening to your videos. I am 65 years old. Always wanted to know how to use a compass and a map. It seems very complicated. Cannot seem to make sense of it. Any suggestions. Can you recommend a compass . Would any map of my area work.

[@grumpychops8113]

Morning. I also had not met these maps. One thing I couldn't see from the video is the shading above 525.. I keep looking at the image but it looks the same either side of the line. How am I missing it? The 600 demarcation is very clear, but the 525.. ? Thanks for the video. :)

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

Maybe it's my old camera. There is a difference between the two browns used to shade the map above/below the 525 contour - but it's only a slight difference. Above the 525 is slightly darker.

[@DuncanBarnes-n7z]

I did ingleborough in May this year and could see absolutely nothing from the top due to cloud

[@dreamcatchersong]

You're some hardy wandered 😂👏👏

[@JCJ7754]

Q. If you had to choose just one map style to carry on a hill walking trip, would it be Harvey or OS?

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

I don’t really have a preference

[@rogerphelps9939]

OS.

[@RossFairclough]

Hi Wayne. Do you ever teach groups what to do in an emergency on the hills. One day I'd like to be an M.L and would love your opinion on such things.

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

Hi Ross, not really. I'm an ML but I tend to stick to nav courses these days. Good luck with the ML.

[@paulmatthews4293]

There's loads of info like that. It should be covered on ML training, but the regular MTA conferences often have sessions that include group management and safety.

[@DaveCollins123]

Don't do Ingleborough from the Whernside route....gnarly climb!

[@cycklist]

Please look up the difference between its and it's. Your captions always get it wrong.

[@CristiNeagu]

What would you say is the biggest drawback, if any, of using a Harvey map as opposed to an OS map?

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

@@CristiNeagu a lot of the areas I work in don't have Harvey Map. They only cover a few regions

[@CristiNeagu]

@@TheMapReadingCompany That's a very good point, thanks!

[@mihailvormittag6211]

👍

[@ivanhoe6366]

I have a Harvey superwalker of the Rhinogs, absolutely superb, but getting a bit worn now and they dont have them new now. You need two of their maps now to get the same Rhinogs coverage.... A real shame, in my humble opinion.

[@colinpratt859]

Waffle on, highly entertaining

[@Cous1nJack]

Elevation shading. Altitude is detached from the ground.

[@Pat19eighty4]

I’m only here for the waffle! 😅

[@trendtraderx]

i really don't like those sheep made deserts.

[@Soul_of_a_Robot]

I don't like tiramisu

[@fjb4932]

@trendtraderx, Eat more lamb . . . ☆

[@tomtom4405]

Not relevant, but you like a digression/waffle...🤣 Do you know the meanin and etymology of "wife" in Thatham Wife Hole, Tatham Wife Moss, Braithwaite Wife Hole and other examples. I've never found the answer.

[@TheMapReadingCompany]

Complements of ChatGPT: In the context of place names around Ingleborough in Yorkshire, the word "wife" does not refer to a woman or spouse in the modern sense. The etymology of "wife" in these place names is actually derived from an Old Norse or Old English word, wīf, which can mean something different than its current usage. Old Norse or Old English Origins: The word wīf in Old English and Old Norse originally referred to a woman, but it also had a broader meaning, which included terms like a female animal, a woman of a particular type, or even a female of a species. In some cases, wīf could mean a dwelling or a sheltered place, which might be more relevant to these place names. Interpretation in Place Names: The use of wife in place names like "Tatham Wife Hole" or "Braithwaite Wife Hole" is typically believed to derive from an Old Norse or Old English term meaning a shelter, a cave, a hollow, or a place of habitation. This makes sense in the context of geographical features like caves, holes, or hollows where people or animals may have sought shelter. For example, Hole in these place names could refer to a hollow or a cave, and wife could suggest the idea of a place of shelter, either for people or animals. Tatham Wife Hole could refer to a hollow or cave near Tatham, perhaps used for sheltering animals or people, rather than having any specific connection to women.

[@tomtom4405]

​@@TheMapReadingCompany Thank you, realised it was nothing to do with marriage but didn't realise it meant shelter/hollow or the origin. Thank you again!