What are Prismatic Shields and Are They Worth It?

[@CmdrYoodenVranx]

Whilst I can see the benefits of Powerplay modules, what are the implications of pledging to a power? Presumably they don't just give away modules, but expect something in return?

[@Exigeous]

I'll be brief - you pledge to power A. You fly into power B space. A player is pledged to power B. They can attack you without becoming wanted yet if you fight back you'll be wanted. This used to be used as a griefing tactic during CGs if they were in Power Play space. NPCs don't do this - so the risk is exceptionally low.

[@richard_d_bird]

you don't get to buy the modules until you've done enough work for them to reach rank 3 for 4 weeks. that means undermining other powers, or running fortification cargoes to their systems, or running cargoes to expand them into new systems, or whatever it is for that power. if you want to be a jerk about it, you can learn enough about powerplay to do these missions in a way that actually *hurts* their standing in the game, instead of helping them. you still get the rank and the modules. powerplay people call this fifth column behavior, or 5c, and they will not like you.

[@georgesalib8964]

another problem is you will only have access to the module for as long as you are pledged so if you plan on stacking them all you will need billions , 11 months and 11 days minimum for all 11 superpowers so choose wisely ^^

[@ShepardFTW]

@@Exigeous on that note, can you kill wanted npcs on those hostile systems for bounties without getting a wanted status?

[@westnerrs2084]

You can also turn off any boosters you might have so your shield will charge faster

[@milanondrak5564]

A quick tip. If your Prismatic shields drop try a reboot repair after leaving combat and you can regain half your shields immediately.

[@Exigeous]

Sure, if you're not moving or taking fire, covered this in my reboot/repair video but should have mentioned it here.

[@dominicrobichaud4111]

I thought they patched that out. Is that only the case for prismatics?

[@milanondrak5564]

@@dominicrobichaud4111 no it works with all types of shields.

[@Bitgedon]

An advanced version of this is flip your flight assist off and gun it in a straight line, hit the reboot and you’ll maintain velocity as you soar. Making it harder for the person to shoot you

[@brianlam5847]

@@Bitgedon Yeah, but if they have LR railguns say goodbye to your shields

[@georgesalib8964]

correction "The hot chick you probably already pledged to"

[@yugster78]

She looks like Daenerys Targaryen but with blue hair.

[@draconusspiritus1037]

blue hair and a (slightly) bigger bra size. with less risk of being eaten by a dragon for a bonus

[@Blue-Mystic]

NOPE, my love is to her Majesty Empress Arissa Lavigny-Duval. But ill temporary switch just to get this pretty shields.

[@aeringothyk5445]

@@Blue-Mystic The empress has the most hardcore simps

[@Exigeous]

As many have commented you can reboot/repair to get 50% of your shields back - IF you aren't moving, are FA-On AND you aren't taking fire. I'll cover that when we have a full look at everything shields soon - for now I covered this in my Reboot Repair guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYGoY39sht2jpJo

[@Spacek531]

6:05 "[armored power plants] lower your available power," compared ONLY to the Overcharged blueprint. Armored power plants generate more power than un-engineered power plants.

[@Exigeous]

Yes, that's what I meant - sorry that wasn't more clear.

[@Lperry]

If you can't fit your build inside of a g5 armored and monstered Power plant' its probably not an amazing build. Armored gives you a lot more power and better heat efficiency. A corvette can run a class 7 prismatic with class 2 7 SCBs and 2 class 4 plasma accelerators. When built correctly

[@Nazz-b7p]

Yep I use a reinforced bi-weave with mostly boosters in my slots and I can run grade 4 overcharged /monstered no issues.

[@MarsStarcruiser]

@@Lperry I agree. g5 armored monstered is practically the gold standard on all my ships. It wasn’t the snipe/penetrate proofness with double module reinforcement that got me to make switch... for me it was the heat, and didn’t want to resort to those greatly dps gimp’ing emission engineered ones. Absolutely loved the day when I finally was able to pop scb8 on my cutter and just needed to simply stop firing for a sec and watch my heat not break 99%. Still kept heatsync’s for other reasons😈...

[@Lperry]

@@MarsStarcruiser I will never understand the whole overcharged obsession. Maybe on a light and nimble ship but the big ships? I run all 8 boosters in my vette with medium long range thermal vent beams. The only reason I run my 7a prismatic on low draw is because the power curve is so tight I couldn't run small rails while running huge plasmas. But even on one of the largest ships in the game with 5 +73% boosters, low draw vs high cap is only 500 mj less. For 20% less power and distributor draw... really good builds can be fit in G5 Armoured/monstered. I've got 6400Mj of absolute shield(41%+ all res), two 7a scb, one 6a scb, 2 huge efficient plasma with plasma slug, one large efficient Healing beam(for my noob friends), two medium long range thermal vent beams, and two small rails long range feedback cascade. Oh and 4300 absolute hull. The things a damn monster. All in armoured Powerplant for sweet, sweet heat efficiency

[@CreeperDude-cm1wv]

*runs prismatics on cutter* *Accidentally turns on silent running*

[@theamericanviking1835]

Need a clip of the anti Trump meltdowns when he got elected for the proper reply😐

[@el_buro]

Why are you doing this here here

[@donosporidium]

oof size large

[@razorwolf2758]

You smell that, smells like you left the oven on big man

[@AcheroniD]

Thanks for all of your great videos, CMDR; I recently got back in to ED and you've been a life saver! o7

[@MGlBlaze]

One minor thing; while it doesn't fix your shields to full, you can use a reboot and repair sequence to restore your shields to 50% if they're low or have dropped over the course of fighting. It doesn't help if you're being actively shot at (I'm fairly sure taking damage aborts the repair sequence), but it can save you either a trip to a landing pad or 'wasting' a cell bank when you're outside of combat.

[@malkrie1444]

AX player here, taking fire *does not abort the sequence.* My ship did a 180 in the sequence because of momentum and turned to let me see I had accidentally forgotten to get rid of the 10 scouts that followed me...

[@Antraeon]

"I have prismatics now so that makes me immortal! :>" *Laughs in Flechette*

[@iDave720]

"let's start with the SIMPle answer"

[@Soldier4USA2005]

All of this just goes over my head. There is so much to take into account in ED that I'm probably way behind the curve in builds and engineering.

[@Exigeous]

Well you're on the right channel at least, feel free to stop by Level 11, my player group's Discord as we have over 3500 members, mentors, etc. many willing to give you a hand.

[@Soldier4USA2005]

EDTutorials by Exigeous I appreciate it. My "problem" is all the meta aspects of Elite and what one stat means over another, what are the true percentages, understanding the ships, etc.

[@Nazz-b7p]

Even the recharged rate docked at a station is garbage slow with Prismatic. I love my bi-weave.

[@hermanvisser4034]

Wow. Gotto watch this video multiple times. So much good information.

[@ICKY427]

when i first started learning the ropes of elite, my dream build was a mega shield tank cutter. so i do all the stuff, i get the prismatics, i get all 8 boosters, i get all the guns, i get everything engineered, and i go out to my local haz res. im loving life til i realize how long they are taking to recharge. this is before i find all the knowledge from sources like you and tools like coriolis. the build worked fine, but i realized once that shield finally went down, i was done. id have to head back to a station to recharge. i later switched to a bi-weave which would actually stay charged between fights. i could stay out fighting til i ran out of fuel if i wanted.

[@DavidUtau]

reboot/repair + FA off

[@davidandrus323]

Digging the music you used for this one

[@Exigeous]

Well be sure to stop by Miguel's channels and thank him, been using his stuff for years now as I absolutely love his work.

[@OidHunter]

Useful, instructive and inspiring video.. I just haven't had the patience to run the Aisling Duval power play

[@TheKermit2110]

Really helpful vid Ex. Have seen a few technical shield vids but this was way more useful, with straightforward language and advice. Enjoyed the backing soundtrack too - beautiful. Cheers.

[@JasonLandau]

That is the best explanation video on shields I have ever watched. Great job!

[@senyaak-5637]

Best tutorials I ever watched - would like to see more, especially for odyssey

[@smokinggnu6584]

Getting my Prismatics today. Gonna reference that # of bought shields in the beginning of the video. Did the same with Pack-hounds, got loads of them in storage.

[@adamjenkins3032]

Class videos for someone who had stopped playing for the last 2 years

[@LLLammell]

I see, Exigious crushes Aisling Duval

[@Exigeous]

Not really, I'm with Kirk and prefer my space chicks to be of the green variety. :D

[@josa310]

I love how strait to the point you are in your videos, and I always learn something from it, but I really cannot bring myself to unlock power-modules, I think it's bad gameplay, too much commitment too little reward, maybe one day I'll change my mind..

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

Yeah, and there are only 3 modules that are useful.

[@Exigeous]

First thanks for the kind words - as for the "commitment" they really aren't bad at all. You pledge, wait 3 weeks, do 1 run carrying 750T of cargo and done. Takes less than an hour once a month, really not much of a commitment to me. As for useful ones the following are pretty great: Prismatics, Packhounds, Pacifier Frags, Enforcer Cannons, Advanced Plasma Accelerators, Imperial Hammers and - yes - Mining Lances. Lances are VERY misunderstood as they are advertised as a mining laser that does damage when really the benefit is the 4 TIMES longer range (500M vs 2000M). Great if you're gonna do a lot of mining (and most people do)

[@josa310]

@@Exigeous My issue is more of a state of mind than anything else, so I might give it another go when in the mood, the modules are usefull no question about it, I just wish there was a different gameplay to get them

[@josa310]

@@Exigeous I have finally decided to unlock power play modules, much less effort than I thought ( as you said ), I'll get prismatic on the next cycle, more over power play is very good to farm arx

[@joeschmalhofer6109]

One thing you may want to add is how many credits one has to have to purchase the recommended (both sides) number of prismatics. If you spend 4 weeks waiting, then discover that you're 100 million credits short to buy the shields, then you may get annoyed. :)

[@Exigeous]

Yeah, I'm honestly annoyed at myself that I didn't include that - this is why I usually say if you don't have 500M or more you should wait and go for something like say Packhounds first. If you're a hard-core player you're going to need something like 1.5 Billion credits for everything.

[@jgomezmoreu]

@@Exigeous I just pledged today and have exactly 1.5B cr on me... I guess I'll be mining for a while this month.

[@alex140i3]

for the casual player side its about 350 mil

[@nafnist]

Waifu Shields! Also let me say. This is one of the most informative vids bar the gfx one. So many great advises, tips and stats here.

[@Exigeous]

Thanks, appreciate the kind words. More like this coming soon....

[@hatsjer]

Just got them unlocked. Thanks for this great video!

[@raiseyourback1388]

well disigned video, concise, explicative, good montage, pleasant, informative, down the thinking into the nutshell, what we need on youtibe, thx bro

[@MagicRobotman]

Great tutorial, very useful as I’m working on getting prismatics atm.

[@ralphweaver1176]

This is timely... I'm carrying cargo for Aisling right now.

[@Exigeous]

Well on Thursday morning you'll be in prismatic heaven.

[@Bradrackas]

Thanks so much Cmdr Exigeous. I’ve just got around to purchasing the prismatics and was scouring the internet for how many of which size to buy with little luck. Given the lack of information I went with two of each size except one of size 8; sooo expensive! So may get some more size 5s. Thank you so much for the vid which told me exactly what I needed to know and when to use them. Perfectly timed. I hope you are planning similar vidz for the other power play modules.

[@Exigeous]

Good timing, yeah, you'll almost certainly want more size 4, 5 and 6 as those are by far the most common used.

[@carloscastanheiro2933]

I just subscribed because you explain really well. Great work, thank you very much sir.

[@DGneoseeker1]

Did they change the shield colours? I have bi-weave and haven't noticed any green. Perhaps it still looks blue on the little diagram showing where you're being hit?

[@Lightsoul1987]

Normal shield = Blue color, Bi-weave = Purple Color, Prismatic = Green Color

[@barcodemanIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII]

Bought: 2 8A 3 7A 4 6A 6 5A 5 4A 5 3A 6 2A 6 1A Number of ships I have: 3 Number of ships I use prismatics on: 0 Hmm, might have went overboard, but I still feel like I don't have enough.

[@ranner3]

I ll just say this, my combat cutter with 8A prismatic engineered plus engineered shield boosters puts a smile on my face :)

[@MarsStarcruiser]

Prismatic’s loose less shields comparatively when downsizing, than any other shield type. I run class 6 prismatics on my cutter with about as much shield strength as class 8 bi-weaves. When testing both, I found that you can’t really take full advantage of bi-weave 8’s enhanced recharge rate for very long with lower sized distributor(cutter only has class 7), so it was well worth the switch. Also free’d up power, weight, and a big slot for scb8 which was a much better gain in a real fight.

[@ralphweaver1176]

I gotten a huge amount of invaluable information from your videos. Many thanks and keep up the good work. Would you consider doing a video on which Power Play weapons are the most useful? Maybe a ranking? Thanks.

[@Exigeous]

I sorta already have that - although it's one of my very early ones and as such pretty cringy. Consider an update on the list.

[@ralphweaver1176]

@@Exigeous What would you go for after prismatics?

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

0:07 "have you ever seen another player..." nope, I play in solo only!

[@NeonLightedDreams]

8:24 How does one have their individual weapons fire be different colors? I thought customized colors for weapons applied to all or none?

[@draconusspiritus1037]

I have Prismatics on just about everything I own. ESPECIALLY those ships that don't normally engage in combat. The stock #8 shields on a Cutter, even when A Rated tend to drop pretty fast if you cuddle up too close to an asteroid while mining. Using 6A Prismatics I've never had them fall. But yes, they are most certainly a power hog.

[@captpugwash8915]

Great video, the editing and production quality is now at the pro level and beyond, great work!

[@Exigeous]

Wow, thanks, I really appreciate that. I'm honestly not that great with the Adobe tools but can copy what others do to try to bring the production value up. I'm getting there and hope to learn more in the future.

[@tgpips1128]

My Mamba only has 2307MJ of shields. (5A G5 Reinforced + Multliweave. 4x shield boosters G5 to 73.9% each) Never lost my shields in any battle including going to High conflict zones taking out 20 odd NPC's one after the other. Never bothered with a cell bank, as by the time I've used up my ammo and collector limpets, I've headed back to a station to restock. Also to note, if you loose shields, turn off the boosters, so your main shield gen gets back online faster, then enable the shield boosters one at a time.

[@Moosemansmithy]

To get a little bit more power out of your combat ships shut off your cargo hatch and set your interdictor to Priority 5. If you're running an armored power plant and still want to have access to multiple Shield cell Banks run with the bank turned off that you can't afford to power. Once you've used your final Bank shut it down and turn the next one on. Also any event your power plant becomes damaged it's a good idea to have your weapons set on priority 2, life support on 3 Shield cell banks on 4 in the event you accidentally turn on two banks at once and overload your power plant. Also when your Shields drop in combat you can speed up the recovery time of The Shield by shutting down Shield boosters. Primarily your heavy-duty boosters. If you have a strong Shield and you shutdown your heavy-duty boosters the recovery time for your Shield will be a lot faster. On your Corvettes and cutters engineer your prismatics high capacity reinforced. The idea is to never let your Shields drop.

[@emilyhofland8219]

I use prismatic on ships with smaller shields then I would normally put on it... My t10 mining with a class 5 or 6 prismatic. Gives me enough shield that I don't have to run from every pirate. But I find that they do not have the staying power for when I intend to be in combat for awhile. I utilize the recharge rates of the other shields for all other cases.

[@isturma]

Great video, as usual, but I would've pointed out that these shields are NOT ideal for 'Goid hunting, as they have the electrical discharge that just wrecks your shields.

[@iustinianmihailfocsa]

People who hunt thargoids in large ships reboot their ships anyway and get 50% shields back.

[@Battlenude]

Rebooting happens even with Prismatic vs PvE. Its a necesity.

[@Exigeous]

Yep, completely agree they are not a good choice there -- and yes, you can reboot to get 50% back but you can do that with any shields and you have to be sitting still AND not taking damage for that to happen.

[@iustinianmihailfocsa]

@@Exigeous Well, AXI themselves recommend prismatics on large ships, since you're better off with raw strength rather than regen. As for rebooting, not hard there (you will do that regardless of your will), boost away, FA off, reboot, done.

[@julbot1]

Imagine chilling in your 19k shields Cutter in a Hazres and then some guy comes in and just yeets your shield generator with a cascade torp.

[@Exigeous]

It is one of the most satisfying things you can see in all of Elite, especially when you use a mine launcher. Have a look at the very first video I ever published, I killed a Cutter with my Cobra Mark III - it was awesome.

[@donosporidium]

For exploration, i use enhanced low power prismatic shields, that way i can survive a gank and still have a fairly lightweight generator

[@ChrisFaulkner]

Nice Exigeous! thanks!

[@Jadriam]

Around the 5:30 mark or so - was that a Clipper? I have a bizarre appreciation for the I-Clipper (even ones being shot at). It seems oversized for its price range, but when you add all the requirements together it actually adds up to an above average [if above size class] vessel, and it's a sleek shiny Gutemaya craft, so i've grown to like it ever since I came back to Elite last week. Oh gosh sorry for going way off topic of the video, I was just happy to see Clippers in general use.

[@eeka_droid]

incredible work, once again CMDR, thank you o7

[@Lightning9060]

If you pledge to a power play, lets say Emperial, and go into a rival system, say Federation, will you technically be an enemy?

[@Exigeous]

It's not based on Fed or Imperial, if you're pledged to say Li Yong-Rui and fly into another power's space you'll be "hostile" - this simply means someone pledged to the systems power can attack you without getting wanted but if you fire back you will get wanted. NPCs don't do this, only humans so you only need be cautious around players in Community Goal systems, etc.

[@Lightning9060]

@@Exigeous Okay awesome!

[@ReX0r]

As a federation officer, I had no problem saving imperial refugees. CMDR's welcomed all the help. So caution is appropriate, but friendly players abound (in this, current, situation). Technically, you'll be hostile to them and notice you're in a hostile environment (lower right corner). If there are more combat ships around (Community Goal, Galnet news around bounty hunting), exercise that caution though! Trigger happy CMDR's will have more incentive to shoot you down. Federation officers tend to work together. I hear it's slightly different per faction leader in other powerplay groupings (discord, reddit, 3rd party sites around elite). I'm just an ensign, but saving all there imperials makes me consider switching powerplay faction after it's done. Not yet, as I don't want to be hunted down while saving imperials.

[@trajan_x0128]

EDTutorials by Exigeous This is incorrect. If you are pledged to say Aisling, and you got to another imperial power’s system, you will be marked as neutral. If you are pledged to Hudson and you go to Winters’ system, you will be neutral.

[@alezandercorben4122]

Another fantastic video.

[@glasshalfempty1984]

4:47 I mean...the obvious solution to that is play solo. It makes more sense to run those shields just because you're exploring and you never know what will happen. Honestly though, FD should have a peaceful open play where you can't attack anybody. I would LOVE that. I want to be in a world of real other players but when people are allowed to attack anybody, the assholes just can't help but show themselves.

[@01telemaster]

Theres still so much about Elite dangerous I have no idea about

[@Exigeous]

Same here my friend, same here. I absolutely learn something new every day I play.

[@nafnist]

Totally. One of many things that make Elite Dangerous an epic game. We forget that sometimes.

[@x...CrankyOldMan...x]

Great explanation... thank you.

[@Sylusssss]

You should have mentioned the 30 second rebuild time for 1c bi-weaves Extremely useful on small combat ships like eagles The shield is pretty low but for hit n run high manuverability builds you can use them as an 'impact Shield's to soften rams/take the oof out of a PA

[@Exigeous]

Yeah, I covered that in my specific "Reboot/Repair" video but should have here. The main issue is you have to be still, FA-On and can't be taking fire for that to work. So in many ways not viable during active combat as you have to run away. I'll cover this when we do a deep dive on all shields.

[@thatrandomguycommenting1261]

Primatic shields and pack hounds are the only reason to even pledge to anything lol.

[@Xel_Naga]

Haha literally this, just got my pack hounds from Mr Money and now got my eyes on Anime Girl haha

[@toniodu371200]

Well i love way too much bounty hunting to change my ultrahull bi weave fed corvette but this could be a good idea on my type 9 trade ship

[@tig215pr]

1:54 yes but not the recharge time. data on screen shows visible difference and you've mentioned later that recharge is pretty much double for prismatics. and blue haired unicorn girl is more than just kinda hot :) nice guide

[@Minotaur1975]

ANIME WAIFU IS MORE THAN JUST "KINDA" HOT

[@InnanetBaby]

Ok virgin

[@kingl30nidas]

@@InnanetBaby ok boomer

[@vinzipp9046]

simp

[@blacknoir2404]

Someone needs to make a good and realistic 3D model of Aisling

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

Just got these myself. Just over 1 billion credits for all the shields I should ever need. Definitely the most expensive Power Play modules!

[@akaBeaucoupFish]

How many did you buy of each class?

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

@@akaBeaucoupFish Two 8's, four 7's, eight 6's, and a bunch of all other sizes. Enough that I won't need to pledge again. Look up the prices here under Optional, Prismatic Shield Generator... inara.cz/galaxy-outfitting/

[@FurryEskimo]

I fought a heavy duty prismatic ship in a medium fighter, with a squad, and we just couldn’t kill it.. We needed to leave and go get special weapons to fight them. Now I have a corvette and use high regen-bi-weave. I fight alongside someone with prismatic, and surprisingly, although they can tank a lot of immediate damage, I can still talk on about five ships at a time, and my shields come back so quickly I can outlast my prismatic shield friend.

[@Exigeous]

Yep, this has been mentioned several times - I covered this in the Reboot/Repair video and will certainly cover it in my upcoming full look at shields. Remember you can't be moving, have to be FA-On and can't be taking fire for a reboot to restore your shields to 50%

[@34three-four]

Blue - standard Pink - Bi-weave Green - Prismatics Wish this was diffrent... the pink should have been that Aisling Duval's colors.... Crush the ipms!

[@flakon6098]

Can you stay pledged to a power for as long as you want? And can I still buy the shields after being pledged for like 7 weeks?

[@Soldier4USA2005]

Yes. The only time you lose access is when you change powers. Meaning if you want a particular module for multiple ships, you need you buy said module for each ship before pledging to another power.

[@flakon6098]

@@Soldier4USA2005 Good to know. Thank you for the information.

[@wmgthilgen]

The only purpose of prismatic's is when compared to the same size biweave generator, prismatics save one slot which is generally utilize to hold a single cell bank. In as much as one can install in a available slot, multiple cell banks, a biweave with multiple cell banks even though it takes one additonal slot, is considerably better.

[@Exigeous]

"is considerably better" is a VERY subjective term as while sure there are builds that work great for both, say the large class ships mainly, ships like the FDL and Mamba are arguably FAR better with Prismatics, especially in PvP form. Yes, you can make damn near anything work in Elite, hell I've killed Cutters with a Cobra and Anacondas with a Sidewinder but I wouldn't say a Sidewinder is "better" (even though it is clearly!)

[@rempha]

EDTutorials by Exigeous, I pledged today to get the Prismatic Shields and already delivered 750t required for the 750 merits. Now I need to wait 4 weeks before I can purchase this power play module?

[@beyond_hope]

Question on power play modules generally: Got the Packhound missiles a month ago. Changed allegiance to Hudson for the Pacifier Frag cannons. Waited till my 4 weeks with him was up and then went about getting my 750 merits (actually picked up more for safety). But when I go to Jameson Memorial, the Pacifiers aren't available to buy at any level, including the required lvl3 hardpoint option. Even swapped ships just in case. Do I need to wait till the end of the week and then claim more merits before they become available ? Was planning on prismatics next but this delay concerns me.

[@rahbkoz]

I don’t think you can get PP modules at Jameson, only within the PP faction space that own them. So you would have to go back to the home system (or a controlled one?) to purchase those.

[@Exigeous]

Incorrect - once unlocked any station anywhere that has outfitting will sell them. Sounds like the OP isn't actually Rank 3 and in Week 4 or they would show up. Check your stats in the Power Play screens.

[@rahbkoz]

@@Exigeous I humbly stand corrected, bitter in the knowledge that I've been encamped at these hives of scum and villainy, when I could have been safely tucked away sooner in the neutral bliss of Jameson Memorial...live and learn. :)

[@beyond_hope]

@@Exigeous Thanks Exigeous. I'm in Wk 5 now (shows 4 wks 1 day) but it's still showing Rating 1. I earned the merits after the end of week 4 so thought they'd apply to this week immediately. You've confirmed that's wrong so I need to wait till the end of week 5 for those merits to get tallied and to get the weapons. Appreciate all the comments, guys. I'm learning new stuff about this game constantly :)

[@Giby86]

I have a question. Your argument for bi-weave on hull tanks is that since they regenerate fast, you'll have them more often. But isn't the point of a hull tank to...tank with the hull? In that regard, wouldn't make more sense to go with prismatic, so that you have long "free" damage reduction before actually doing what your ship is designed to do, which is take damage with the hull?

[@Exigeous]

So I'll go into more detail in the upcoming full shield guide but the issue is as weapons like missiles and super penetrator rails do so much hull and module damage you use the biweave as a buffer against them. For PvE combat you really don't want to be losing your shields as NPCs will absolutely go after you with missile (not so much super pen rails). For some ships, namely the Alliance and Federal ships prismatics don't result in very high shields, even with engineering so it's generally better to go with biweaves where you get regenerate them so much more quickly vs. if/when you lose prismatics you'll basically have to go land (or reboot) to get them back.

[@Giby86]

@@Exigeous Gotcha! Looking forward to that guide!

[@informedchoice2249]

How do they respond to Concordant Sequence? This might also be a good option. Great vid thanks Exi

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

Prismatics are technically the best, but at a Regen rate of 1.1 per second with a meta setup, it'll take about an hour and a half to recharge real time, bi-weaves regenerate 5 times that fast, so if you can win with bi-weaves, they'll give you more shielding over many frequent engagements while weighing your ship down less giving slightly better handling. Prismatics are only necessary in pvp and the hardest PvE hunts.

[@BasicallyPie]

"The young, kinda hot, blue headed chick in the powerplay menu" Best description I've heard yet

[@d4rk0v3]

Hi Exigeous. I hope you see this. As someone with limited play ability (As in physical limitations) I can never PVP. That said, I just got my corvette and killing NPC pirates has me laughing like a maniac but I often find myself hull tanking with lots of hull and module reinforcement modules. Given that I won't PVP and that I often can't fly well enough to avoid getting shot up, would I be better off going with a bi-weave or prismatic shield build for my conflict zone / bounty / pirate hunting play?

[@HighFidelityFox]

Corvette with prismatics + shield boosters is a safe bet that you will almost never loose shields, especially if you pack a lot of shield banks

[@Knightfang1]

I have prismatic on my anaconda my python and my Vulture. Have yet to decide if the vulture was a good idea or not yet as I have only flown it in combat a few times. Did not know pips to systems raised shield strength, I thought it sped up recharge. Good to know

[@Exigeous]

Yeah, PIPs have no effect at all on recharge rate, so long as there is energy in the distro. A prismatic Vulture can be great, I have one at 1700 base with 2500 total with banks. Given it's hard to hit already it's a tough little bitch.

[@claytoncanan]

So once again a very informative video, but I felt a little lost in the end. Currently I'm having a fun flying an "Eagle", how would set up the shields and pulse lasers? On my way to see the Digger tonight for engineering.

[@DavidUtau]

"low power" upgrade for the shields. I wouldn't really use more than 1 energy weapon on an eagle, mix it up with missiles;kinetic weapons, it doesn't have the power distributor for that.

[@jessebob325]

Ok, I just left Asling Duvals service after a little over 10 weeks. They are definitely better, but worth it? I'll say yes. After all now they're "Prismatic" 😳! I'm with Li Yong-Rui now for the Pack Hound (1:23 Houd?! 😄) missiles. Don't tell me they're not cool. 😑

[@Exigeous]

They're probably my favorite in terms of fun of all the power play modules. Just don't use them in PvP as they're banned there (as they are CRAZY overpowered)

[@AnthonyFrisko]

So, I've tested this multiple times but for some reason my Shields regenerate faster when there are less pips or 0 pips with capacitor charge. They take less damage at 4 pips but the Regen is slower. I figured this was because of lowering the shield cap. Prismatic with a balanced mix of capacity and resistance augmentation. I tend to empty my pips until the capacitor is drained and then recharge it. It makes a very noticable difference. Are you saying this is not supposed to be the case?

[@viperion_nz]

I've just this week unlocked Level 3 with Aisling Duval - I don't do PvP but do have a PvE Krait with 1x Fixed Beam and 4x Rail Gun - the internals are a mix of stuff (she's my Millenium Falcon - can do anything) so I don't have the hull/module reinforcements fitted; would you recommend Prismatics or Bi-Weaves for it?

[@Exigeous]

Prismatics but ABSOLUTELY put on some hull reinforcements and engineer your armour with heavy duty.

[@mirandela777]

Wow, I try run 4x rails on my Krait MK2 and was so bad, after 2-3 shots I was cooking the ship....I was taking more self-inflicted damage from heat than from enemy, lol... I switched to only 2 and now is much better, not to say my fuel tank got dry in no time ( I use plasma slugs) ; With only 2 of them now, and a mix of pulse & burst, I can stay on hot Nav Points over an hour, I never spend a single credit on reloads or ever need to reload, and the ship is way more effective...

[@viperion_nz]

@@mirandela777 My Beam Laser is engineered with Thermal Vent and that's plenty to keep it cold enough, I haven't run into heat issues yet :)

[@viperion_nz]

@@Exigeous Cool, thank you :) The armour is engineered already :) Not sure what to drop for hull reinforcements though - this is the layout currently: 6A Shield (thermal, hi cap) 6A SCB Rapid charge 5D Fighter 5E Cargo (for recovery/delivery missions) 4A Scoop 1A Collector (for material gathering/recovery missions) 3E Cargo 2G Planetary Vehicle (for planetside missions) I could maybe drop one of the cargo racks but 40t cargo has actually been really helpful in the past

[@mirandela777]

@@viperion_nz - lol, dude, have nothing to do with the overheating, or you aren't aware you cannot use BOTH groups at the same time ?! (4 x rail AND the 2x beam !) Maybe I am wrong, and you have some magic Power Distr & Power Plant who allow you to use all on the same time, but in my initial build (yes vented beam like yours !) after 2-3 shots with the 4 rails the Cº go at 110-130 in a blink...Oh yes, and before you argue, yes, I run an efficient and cold build in engines and power plant. With only a pair I can shoot non-stop with 1-2 sec. pause between them , no overheat, no power problems, no ammo concern (or fuel..). 4 rails are a bad idea if you need to shoot a lot and fast, I saw this a lot even with veteran and pro players, on Tube - all get damages from heat, usually more than from real fight, lol.

[@kronosx7]

Is it really worth running a lower class prismatic for a higher bank on an FDL? Without the boost from pips is it even really more total MJ in the end?

[@evasuser]

my heart bleeds in 06:29 when a Cobra MkIII passes away.

[@blkhrsmn9876]

What about running prismatic shields for a xeno hunter what would you recomend

[@KingArthurFleck]

"The young, kinda hot, blue headed chick....." I love this game LOL

[@allsystemsgootechaf9885]

Disabling any active shield boosters will also reduce the recharge rate

[@Exigeous]

Yep, something I'll cover when we have a complete look at shields, coming soon.

[@v3nomxxx961]

where can we find that imperial cutter 11k build?

[@chiiika.ayyAtHK]

As a trader, explorer and rat, I don't think I will have use for the pp weapons? I might can fit a prismatic onto my trader, but that's the only module I might need

[@zeazevedo]

You’re the man ! Thanks for this video, really useful for a noob like me ! o7 cmdrs

[@mawnkey]

Sounds to me like any wing with a ship running heal beams would be ideal for prismatics as well. I know, the heal beam is heresy. It's still a solid strategy.

[@Exigeous]

It's a very solid strategy in PvE but please, PLEASE don't use them in any PvP - as you say they are completely and totally broken. A single medium on a ship with even modest shields will become unkillable thanks to them. But in a Conflict Zone sure, have at it!

[@mawnkey]

@@Exigeous Honestly I think it depends on what kind of PvP you're talking about. If you're out looking for a gud fite sure stay away from them I agree. If you're trying to mitigate risk of ganks or clearing those types out of a system I got no problem with playing dirty. All's fair in love and war, after all. ;-)

[@matsbacklund6471]

my prismatic won't use sys charge. is that changed?

[@alexsmith3103]

Do I need to bye the shield with a "big" ship to get e.g. a 7 or 8 prismatic?

[@BannorPhil]

Would prismatics be the best option in cases where you are doing assassination missions - you attack and kill ONE target, and then go collect your reward?

[@youknowit5mil]

I'd say it sounds like a good bet, they take forever to charge back, but landing somewhere will always recharge to 100%. Maybe overkill?

[@jgomezmoreu]

Hi there. You always say in your videos "pledge now because the drawbacks are minimum" but... what are exactly those drawbacks? thanks.

[@Exigeous]

Pretty much only one - say you're pledge to power A and you're in a system pledged to power B. There you'll show as "hostile", that means anyone that's pledged to power B can attack you without getting wanted, including right outside the mailslot. That has been used as a griefing tactic in the past where gankers would pledge to the power that controls the system so they can attack others without getting wanted. So it's only very very rarely it's an issue as NPCs won't do shit.

[@jgomezmoreu]

@@Exigeous thanks for the answer cmdr. I've been fishing you out in my recommend page for long enough, you got yourself a new follower. Thanks for the good content. O7

[@starfighter1043]

I just now unlocked these since i didnt cate to stop what i was doing to go to any specific galactic powers reguon n do their missions...i put a 7A prismatic on a anaconda and engineered it to grade 3 w reinforced modification...tell me how ya'll are getting 4 5 and 19k shields when i have just over 2k...and i have a 7A its not like i put a 4a or a 5a or a 6a i have the biggest alotted slot for shields and still am thousands of MJ under what you reported on shield syrength...is 2 engineering levels gonna give me double the shields ? Am i missing that much by not having grade 5 unlocked, it cant be 2k shields for grade 3 and 6k shields for grade 5 is it? How do i get absurd numbers of shields like the examples you provided...

[@Monody512]

No mention of their thermal damage resistance?

[@Exigeous]

As they are the same as A rated that wasn't the point of this one, we'll do a deep dive on all shields very soon.

[@Monody512]

@@Exigeous Huh. I don't know where I'd picked up the misinformation, but I was under the impression Prismatics had special thermal resistance. My bad!

[@Creationeer]

What about powerplay weapons? Worth getting? I've not really looked in to them to be honest, only prismatic shields because shield tank is best tank

[@ultradeath666]

Pack hound missiles are pretty good

[@Exigeous]

I actually have a rather old video covering them all that's on my list to update. The ones I'd recommend are Packhounds, Enforcer Cannons, Pacifier Frags, Imperial Hammers, Advanced Plasma Accelerators and - mining lances (as they have 4 times the range of a standard mining laser)

[@Creationeer]

@@Exigeous Thanks Exigeous :) I'll check it out. I actually think powerplay might become a bit more important with Odyssey, best to get the shiny things now before it changes.

[@lepresean6286]

I earned 750 merits when I first pledged and now waiting for the 4 weeks to pass, but notice my merits are decreasing over time and I went down a rank. Do I need to earn the merits after 4 weeks?

[@jeffricci3999]

You lose half of your merits every week. So, you just have to re-earn enough to maintain 750 merits for the tick from week 3 to week 4.

[@lepresean6286]

@@jeffricci3999 Thanks man!

[@VanBurenPhilips]

@@lepresean6286 Yeah, if you're just after the modules, you can pledge then forget about it for three weeks. Then just do all the ranking up in the fourth week.

[@MichaelThomas-be7gq]

Prismatics are heavy... on a Conda max engineer a reinforced stripped down standard 7A shield generator and boost (2 heavy, 3 thermal) for a very good all rounder 4,300MJ across the board with 70T less weight than a standard prismatic. Try getting near that with a Prismatic without the weight.

[@mwbgaming28]

Diagnostic repair makes bi-weave shields mostly obsolete

[@nicoleemlet7729]

Would you be willing to help put a pve combat Vette build for beginners by chance?

[@nicoleemlet7729]

I'll have to check him out. What i meant was maybe a basic combat build that could be built up from for being a first time Vette owner like myself but this works. Thank you for the advice. I'll have to go out and make it my own. 😁

[@nicoleemlet7729]

I'll definitely go check him out and thank you again for the advice. That actually helps out quite a bit due to me having most of my engineers unlocked. Lol. Gonna go farm mats later today then. Again thank you for your help.

[@tig215pr]

ohhh that's an easy one. overcharged multis everywhere, one with corrosive rest with that anti shield exp (can't remember the name). strongest prismatics, lots of shield banks and hull reinforcements, 2-3 small module reinforcements and engineer the heck out of everything :) but on a more serious note, for pve it doesn't have to be min/maxed to extreme, that what i said will do just fine. for weapons - lasers don't need ammo but multis are just soooo much fun (and have low distributor draw). if you know how to farm max grade raw materials for trading you'll be swimming in mats for ammo synthesis for multis (i have to synthesize every 1-2 high combat zones). and due to multis low distro draw, you can engineer distributor for engine to get a permaboosting monster. SCBs kinda require heat sinks and are not to everyone's taste, personally i prefer more shield boosters and hull reinforcements - admittedly SCBs would provide more shields total, but i don't care. and if some prick torps your shields to oblivion, you'll appreciate these extra HRPs (that's more pvp area - and pvp in a vette is a rather expensive hobby, would not recommend)

[@tig215pr]

@Kure Core i've got corrosive on large on vette, due to it's crap location on underbelly while huge are on top of the ship. i tend to try to keep my opponents in front and slightly above me so huge ones can shoot, which means that large slot usually gets underutilised. also i like it symmetrical so having corrosive in any small/med would really clash with my OCDs :)

[@Exigeous]

I'll cover a build for that soon - feel free to DM me in Discord or ask in our ship builds channel for help. While I don't mean to talk shit _please_ please do NOT copy D2EA's Corvette build as IMHO it's awful. It's ALL resistance based with very little hull and would get destroyed in something like a Pirate Activity Beacon or Scenario where they ships will be engineered using PAs with phasing. PAs do 60% of their damage as absolute which cuts right through resistances, you generally want to go with 65% heavy duty and 35% resistance augmented but NEVER all RA.

[@tantrumus7186]

I'm still confused on this Power Play stuff. Its very confusing. I grinded out my Duke with Empire for the Cutter but now I'm fearful to change allegiances.

[@buraktoprak2935]

since 2015 i play and i and using prismatic i dint know sys dint slow down re charge :O also i think if bi wave rly good builded this shield unbeat able cuz very quick recovery time i m not sure but i trying some ship but i leaved game since near 1 year so i dint build that ship yet but i wonder also small ship like viper or eagle or imperial courier maybe corvette / and you answered my question since 2016 i rly wonder if i put full sys effect shield more power i just put full sys when near end bar i thank you for that

[@nibachoable]

Almost 20,000 MJ??? Is this with reinforced g5 high cap and all g5 heavy dudy super capacitor scbs?

[@AndroidBeacshire]

Total shield strength + total recharge from scbs = 20k

[@Exigeous]

Yes, that's reinforced/hi-cap, 8 HD/SC boosters and 2 banks.

[@Nizzine]

so bi-weaves for type-10. right?