What are the best controls for SSF2 Beta?

[@overkillssb2355]

I wanna play ssf2 using the dk bongos

[@Spinwizard196]

Overkill Ssb The ultimate DK experience

[@deezburr]

Jacob Colton true

[@tic-tacproductions6926]

The best experience

[@irok1]

I'd like, but it's at 69

[@cr-aig9128]

Me too....And i want the NES zapper to be used

[@cubesolver2564]

Screw this, I'm using the steering wheel. XD

[@jhennelleaxe]

Well my keyboard control I change into this Right,left,up and down-went I walk,jump and down Z and X-is my heavy attack or whatever is this C-down attack V-upper attack B and N-shield M-normal attack L-special P-Grab 0-taunts And SHIFT-is run So that's my keyboard control

[@sothisistheend]

I use keyboard because it’s objectively better than a controller, since you can skid cancel with Luigi SO much easier

[@So_rez]

SSF2 Has amazing keyboard controls, i havent changed a single one

[@JK-bw3eg]

You use tap jump?

[@davidgreen1236]

That profile pic XD

[@kacpercicharski3431]

Said no one ever

[@rifttogo7108]

Me too. I only mapped arrows to function as the c-sticks.

[@wakilhamidi3377]

However I changed wasd to esdf on chromebook because I occasionaly press search button thing

[@byronlopez3422]

I think i found something interesting with Bomberman. Go to Smashville and throw a bomb toward the walls under the ledge, the bomb will get stuck there and keep rolling, so it becomes an infinite hitbox until you either make it explode or the enemy gets hit by the bomb and it falls off. However, if you hit the ledge or too low under the wall it won't work, it also has to be a foward bomb throw as far as i have tested, since the up/down/normal throw doesn't seem to get the bomb stuck on the wall. It's an incredible edgeguard option, so much that i'm not even sure if it should be patch'd out. (sorry for bad english, not a native speaker)

[@MedhaosFEH]

Notification squad hype! Also, that is one hell of a C-Stick lol

[@dandiam5298]

Thanks for the giveaway, man! It's great for a smaller channel, gives the entrants a higher chance to win

[@MacDaddyYuunity]

since i used to use a keyboard but that was at school i have a button mapping suggestion for those who are using a Ps3-4 or xbox controller (for me i use controls that are similar mapped on gamecube and 3ds controls and i mainly use the d pad to move but the con about it is that youll auto dash even without having to double tap or having auto dash on or maybe controller could be slight broken but its up to you to judge that) heres the buttons i have mapped for the DS3 controller: button2=square button-jump button3=triangle button-jump button1=circle button- attack button0=x button- special (BN 1 and 0 can be swapped your choice) button4=L1 trigger-grab button6= select-taunt (may not be useful but your choice or can use AX2- witch is R2 trigger) button7=start button=witch is the pause button obviously or you can use button6= select (again your chopice) button5=R1 trigger- shield AX2+=L2 trigger-shield Movement= i mainly use Dpad but if you want use left analog stick C Trigger= AX3-=R trigger UP AX3+=R trigger Down AX4-=R trigger Left AX4+=R trigger Right Hope this helps you guys confortably play ^-^

[@SuperGBASP]

I use a SNES controller because that is all I have.

[@Yayaytree]

Lucky Sock rip c-stick also you don't have a keyboard?

[@SuperGBASP]

Pandorious I have a keyboard, I just can't get used to it though because I've used a controller for many years.

[@GameMasterWLC]

Lucky Sock Oh god. The snes doesn't even have analog. Please use a keyboard

[@remixtheidiot5771]

Wow, a computer that doesn't have a keyboard. That sucks man.

[@anotherdnb]

You a madman

[@kreggbrothers.8529]

Keyboard master race

[@Jason-he1mr]

Ayyyyyy

[@teriww]

That's meeeeeee

[@Maestoso28]

Yeah boi

[@wh4t]

Das right

[@unknowngone4499]

yeah boooiiiiiiiiiiii (this is my moms account)

[@lienson430]

Personally, I like using the keyboard because I grew up with it and I have no money to buy a controller. Btw my online name is Rated R, find me if you want to practice fighting Puff :D

[@xalex3597]

im xAlex ;) i think i have played with you before :D

[@lienson430]

Shit

[@xalex3597]

xd

[@hernalius7630]

Rated_R how do i learn the ways of the puff? D-throw chain grab into rest?

[@mipdip132]

A used controller is 20 dollars

[@sageoffire3964]

I use Xbox 360 remote primarily, but I learned how to play using keyboard. Hooking up was easy since I have wired. I find the controller easier.

[@stiqhx]

Hey guys if you want to play ssf2 with a PS4 controller or Xbox controller consider using input mapper, because you can assign buttons to certain keys

[@fosterglucose3214]

I'm starting to use keyboard from hearing how good it is, my only problem from my experience is finding a key that fits the jump button, i keep the layout the same so i don't confuse myself. It feels better to use tap-jump. Idk, i just feels natural.

[@daviddavidson972]

I use a PS4 controller and as a jigglypuff main it's so annoying trying to use pound but having the joystick ever so slightly off the side and I just have to watch Jiggs fall to her doom. I still can't get comfortable with the keyboard one bit.

[@Serralas]

I play literally every smash game with a GameCube controller. This game is no exception.

[@maanakete]

I loved this video it was very helpful and the fact that you put "I'll be your one up girl" at the end of the video made it 100× better for me.

[@TheRedInkling]

Where's my controller option of gamecube dance mat?

[@p3ter408]

I play with BK Bongos !

[@jakovhrga5619]

P3TER Gaming 🅱k 🅱🅾ng🅾s 🅱i🅱🅱a

[@darriusrarrius64]

Banjo-Kazooie Bongos

[@Zalozis]

1:14 I should have said this earlier, but that clips is used quite out-of-context to prove a point. I keyboarded-clawed the GameCube in the clip to more show how ergonomic it is to do so than on other controllers. And Multi-Shine is much easier in this game than it is in Melee or PM, so doing it on controller is no sweat to begin with. 1:25 And both Jab-Dash and Slide off Ledge needles/special are possible without the need to press Left+Right. So they are possible and not too difficult to do on controller.

[@BowlerSSF2]

How is slide off needles possible on controller? You need to hold both left and right to do it, and if your using a standard controller that's not possible to do. Also even if both techs are possible, the point was that there is keyboard specifc tech, if you want another example, both zelda and sheik can preform a up special in place by holding left and right at the same time, and I'm pretty sure that's impossible on controller.

[@Zalozis]

You just Dash-Cancel and do neutral-special.Tap-forward then flick to down-forward. Same with Dash-Jab. Left+Right is essentially a neutral-input, and Dash-Cancel resets to neutral, so it accomplishes the same thing.

[@zabalyro6865]

Bowler, earlier in your channel, you did special "techs" in ssf2, if you mind being able to do another one like that because I think I might have found something. Also do you have a Discord so I can contact easier, because I plan on finding more things like this.

[@Lucas-dj4qj]

I use arrow keys to move, z as special, x as attack, c for shield, d and v for jump, a for grab, s for dash, shift for up smash (I only use up smash as a c stick option cause it makes falling up airs easier to do), auto dash off, tap jump on.

[@Cephonster]

One thing I don't like about the keyboard controls is that it's hard to use grab and shield without looking at the keyboard for 1 sec

[@Zalozis]

Try putting shield-key right next to attack-key, That way your fingers rest on both and you can just press them together for a grab when you need it.

[@sparkymc813]

Why's it when I use my Xbox controller the tap is auto, even if I'd turn off auto it still auto dash someone please help me!

[@Zalozis]

You have to adjust the ratio to better match the controller. 85 to 99 ratio with a 10-20 deadzone tends to work. Just test out and keep adjusting until it feels natural.

[@sparkymc813]

Zalozis OK thanks so much

[@taylornicty1170]

GameCube master race!

[@666blaziken]

So I have a problem with keyboards, if I am sharing one keyboard with 2 players, some of the inputs get dropped. Is the sharing a reason, or is it the settings? Also, how do I set up keyboard controls for both players with the same inputs but with different characters in case I have 2 keyboards?

[@Zalozis]

Non-gaming keyboards tend to have 'keystroke limits': several shared motherboard sections to help make keyboards cheape and use less electricity, but only allows for a few keys to be pressed at once just for typing and simple commands. Play on seperate keyboards connected to the same PC so that both players get independent keystroke limits on their controls. Older keyboards tend to have wider limits that allow for more keystroke to be pressed aswell.

[@perplexity8260]

I have a question. When using a keyboard, how do I execute tilts more consistently. On a gamecube controller, the analog stick allowe you to actually tilt the stick and input a tilt, but a keyboard is just buttons.

[@gfxbfx9480]

I use forward,attack,and upwards all mashed at the same time

[@drevis7704]

the only thing with keyboard is that i find it really hard to use a c stick, i can't find a comfortable position for it and it's really hard to actually use. Everything else is easier/better on keyboard minus a few small things but c-stick is a big issue imo.

[@ProlificPops]

I agree. I have that same problem but I'll try out different keys for it to see if I can find what's most comfortable for me. It should be easier now with all the improvements the game has gotten since beta dropped.

[@Zalozis]

Don't stress to much about using C-stick. Most top-players only C-stick UP for Jump-Cancel Smashes, Short-Hop Fast-fall Uair. Because Keyboard's precision can easily input smashes and directional keys can do Smash DI, you really don't need the whole C-stick mapped on it..

[@xalex3597]

i use all the C-stick buttons. up:T down:S left:F right:H dunno if im the only one, but thats just me, i find it comfortable

[@drevis7704]

Are you sure? I come from the smash 4 scene and in most smash games using the c-stick is useful for spacing aerials more effectively and I don't think it's any less of a thing in ssf2. Of course you could easily do so with a controller but with keyboard I can't use that effectively. Ofc keyboard brings more advantages to the table as said in this video so I guess it balances out, but at least in other smash games I love my c-stick.

[@xalex3597]

yup, it may sound weird but im comfortable with it, i dont use the c-sticks too much though, i only have them for some situations. example, dash -> up smash (fox, luigi). the rest of my controls are default set. i also use tap jump, and d-tap dash, it sounds probably annoying but i like it, just my playstyle.

[@NessFromMother2]

My Controls are Tap Jump: On Auto Dash: Off C Stick Controls Arrow Keys: Move Z: Attack X: Special Shift:Grab C:Sheild 1:Taunt

[@HylianMaster-ls2ps]

i kinda wish the controller had full analog controller

[@brunosantos9551]

i'm using the XONE controller... couldn't find a proper way to play on keyboard

[@MatthewBaka]

I use a separate jump button (no up jump). I feel this is pretty well used because of the easier uptilt and having one more button to take care of isn't an issue. But I use auto dash and I will try to make a case with it. How I see it is that auto dash leads to basically covering more area and being faster at the same time. Basically auto dash allows you to start dash quicker and not auto dash allows you to start walking quicker. I feel there is more power to dashing faster. You can dash grab and dash attack immediately after you dash, and doing so allows you to cover ground in one way or the other. Now yes it is harder to side tilt but I find I don't have many uses for side tilt and if I need to I can just already hold the walk button as I enter it. Double tapping takes time and sometimes one tap can be eaten (like if I am in hitstun or have minor lag) and I can't risk that. To grab ledge you can dash and slow down by sliding (hold left and right) and grab ledge, works with every character I've tried. To grab ledge right next to ledge you can't do that but holding the walk button isn't that bad there. To summarize, there are many more times I want to start a dash than a walk, and I need to dash quickly a lot.

[@greencray9440]

One time I accidently swapped o with p and now I can't play them in the standard o and p layout.

[@JSins_]

rip

[@NightMare_SSB]

i mostly use a keyboard

[@babylonreef]

silver star boi

[@o_oro-q1k]

silver star same

[@p3ter408]

silver star | On 0.9B I used a keyboard but on Beta, I use a GameSir G3s !

[@CCtheDon]

does the xbox 1 rock candy controller work?

[@SoloBeans]

My Controls are Tap Jump: Off Auto Dash: Off No C Stick Controls WASD: Move J: Attack I: Special K:Grab L:Sheild E:Taunt

[@trollskullkid69]

I like the keyboard, but I believe you should make the joystick more reliable for certain moves like PK Thunder, since Crusade figured out how to make it work

[@muffenman4557]

i know this is late but keyboard is the only controller that can shield drop without changing your control scheme for other smash games

[@Coconate4351]

Can I use a switch controller

[@mystwerks]

Imo Keyboards are best, tap jump off, auto dash off, with c stick. Of course I have a GC controller but I think its worse.

[@SeEyMoReBuTtS]

double tap dash is awful

[@p3ter408]

123peeonyou D-tap Dash is good

[@SeEyMoReBuTtS]

P3TER Gaming no its not... takes way too long to dash

[@bryanshin2732]

Auto dash is awful. You can't tilt. Also, this game needs Attack C-stick

[@mystwerks]

123peeonyou I actually don't use it, I play with my right hand on the number pad and I have my thumb on 0 for dash.

[@kelikl]

once i tried ps4 controller i could never go back,really how you guys do dash reset on keyboard,for me it's impossible to do that in real match,also c stick,i can't do smash attacks in combo when playing on training mode,and doing smash attacks in laggy match is impossible :D,but maybe i just can't get used to keyboard anymore because of playing GG xrd all the time.

[@goombafang3210]

what if i have immediate access to a wired xbox controller i can have immediate access to? i dont have to use a keyboard then!

[@Spinwizard196]

Question: Can you bind some things to the mouse instead of the keyboard? Like attack and special?

[@MercuryPenny]

from my experience using a gc controller it's really stiff and touchy compared to official software and hardware, and even dolphin responds better to inputs than ssf2 does. it's a big reason why i haven't played ssf2 much.

[@ryanfoley8897]

Here's my controls WASD: movement Tap jump off: space bar: jump Arrow keys: c stick PO: attacks D-tap dash with run button

[@ImBrokefddfgdfvdfavcvbfzx]

Keyboard gave me perfect skills!

[@calemx1637]

Old vid, but question: how do i f tilt with autodash? It mostly comes out at random, and when i want it i do a dash attack.

[@captain_lynn2179]

Can you play with ps4 controller

[@l_______I]

That's not the only advantage keyboard has over controller, One of the main advantages that a keyboard has over the controller is input efficiency, the ability to have one finger per key allows for you to have a higher technical ability in the game than you probably would with a controller where a single finger accounts for many buttons.

[@Zalozis]

Not exactly. Frame windows are twice the length than other Smash games with SSF2 running at 30fps. Being frame-perfect for the majority of things in this game are very leanient, even on controller.

[@MC_Bebop]

I use a Logitech controller and it sets it to auto dash. Even when I turn off auto dash and turn on d tap. Any help?

[@The_NJG]

How do I fix the shielding and grab issue? It just does it by itself.

[@steelbeans]

Is there any way to use tilt stick? A hidden setting or a planned update? It's ruins my enjoyment when I keep throwing out smashes.

[@actual123adi9]

My controls are: Up: up arrow Right: right arrow Left:left arrow Down: down arrow Attack: X Special: Z Shield : C Grab: V Taunt: T Autodash on. Tap jump on.

[@ProlificPops]

I've been using keyboard pretty much since this game came out. I used a GameCube adapter for this game once before but it's much more complicated than just using the keyboard.

[@jackdrip8693]

Your controls do wonders! Thanks and space on my keyboard doesn't work at times since it is a pretty old keyboard what can I substitute

[@pweefypweef4089]

Honestly you can still tilt efficiently with tap jump on, granted you gotta be ready to do so mid ending lag of whatever you were doing prior. Still, very doable.

[@cococamo191]

can you make a SSF2 prediction video about what newcomer you think might be in the game and returning veterans (keep realistic as much as possible ). It also may help predicting how big the final roost of character will be. You could do this by look at smash 4 , melee and brawl starting rooster and how it would grow.

[@lermonz]

I personally have my Attack, Special, and Grab buttons on the number pad. grab on 4, special on 5, attack on 6, and I have C-stick up on 8. And I use the psace bar for shield. I have tap jump on, but I also have the number pad 1 for jump if I want to multishine. And finally, I useD-tap dash. But I don't have buttons for the other C-stick directions, except I sometimes switch the space bar to C-stick down when doing target test.

[@DSA333]

Oh look it's me on 0:45

[@ScorpMatoro]

EmeraldLight lol

[@squiori_hikari]

With GameCube contrôler i have Big problem i have the Shield activate every moment 😑 how to résolve this

[@100Bucks]

Any controller with 2 thumb sticks works. The number 1 issue is the tap jump with a controller online. For local play with actual controller. Tap jumps works, but soon as you go online, tap jump doesn't work. You have to Frankenstein your controller to force it to work correctly online. The trick is keeping the controller options on keyboard only. Then use a program called World of joysticks to make your game controller emulate a keyboard. Here's a bonus tip. If you're tired of writing your password and hosting room name. Get autohotkey and use 2 keys you never touch in game just to make macros to auto login. Autohotkey is simple. Here's a demo for a auto login script. b:: send password123 return In this demo script. B key will not work anymore. It will only write password123 everytime you press B. That's why it's important you only use keys you don't touch while gaming. Or if you prefer to use controller inputs as macros you would use the word Joy with a number. Example: Joy10:: send password123 return Your xinput or dinput button will write password123 everytime you press Joy button 10. Frankenstein a controller with world of joysticks and autohotkey is the only best option. Now for perfect online everytime you play. Keep the display resolution on either 640x360 or 512x288. 640x360 is good enough but I prefer using 512x288 with 50fps interlaced. Low resolution makes the internet strongest as possible. Using interlaced frames helps as well because it's way less frames. 50 interlaced frames is 25fps going through the internet pipeline. 60 interlaced is 30fps going through the internet pipeline. 360p or 288p are the strong resolutions for online only. 288p is a bit blurry but you won't have any online issues. The only way to create these 2 display resolutions is using a program called Custom Resolution utility. Make your resolution, restart the computer and go to the recommended resolution. 360p or 288p opens the internet pipeline wide open for best online experience. 1080p or 4k will keep this game laggy everytime online. It's too much data to handle for this game.

[@Sickmmaner]

Advanced tech I use is down-up attack. It makes an easy uptilt without tap jump off.

[@tyleramon8371]

I use Xbox360 controller, a is a x is b and y/b jump, Idk why I use it over keyboard, it just feels better to use perhaps

[@raspvtin_]

I use the left joycon, it feels really well especially with characters like bandana and tails.

[@charlierivaille8458]

I started playing with a keyboard, stuck with it ever since. My controls are weird. I usually have tap jump on. I would like to play yoshi but I can't really use my up b mid air once I've jumped once, cuz if I use it again, i end up JCing my second jump. I have dtap dash on. And as a leftie, I've been using arrow keys as my movement. A - Attack S - Special D - Shield E - Grab Q + W - C-Stick Left/Right R - C-Stick Down F - C-Stick Up C - Jump (Just helps when I'm playing Fox/Falco, but sometimes it helps too) X - Dash Yeh ikr weird setup but I've gotten used to it. I want to try and see if I can play well if my tap jump was off, cuz I want to play Yoshi tbh

[@betastar6494]

Please tell me the best sensitivity for a GC controller? I hate dash attacking all time and/or doing random smash attacks when I want tilts.

[@intensellylit4100]

The control scheme I use is something I would guess is unusual cause it was built with two players on the same keyboard.

[@itryen7632]

i only use my xbox controller, but then i cant do side specials and smashes

[@xhbmb8830]

How do i tansform in the default settings?

[@arthur1050]

I know how to do a jab out of dash in all controllers dash crounch and input a move every move works you can do something better with the keyboard do the tech and then continue to increase the movement speed

[@meleewaluigi]

I used default controls but have E as grab and it's much more convenient than default controls (at least for me). And of course I set tap jump to off

[@fluffyruff7453]

Not sure I really like auto dash on when using MK cause I usually like to do the forward tilt (3 hit) to start combos or try jab lock.

[@BillyBob125]

Currently I use the PowerA Nintendo Switch Pro Controller for Super Smash Flash 2.

[@ranchonbread4905]

Is there any what 2 use the clicks to attack? I prefer that

[@SomeSprites]

To this day, I still don't know how people find it hard to do uptilts w/ tap jump on w/o running.

[@joshuafury5353]

I wish you could have regular attack instead of smash attacks for the c buttons...

[@tahalm3510]

I really wish there was a single smash attack button. If you pressed it and then a direction, you would do a smash attack in that direction.

[@its7aco]

Apple Pi c-stick ._.

[@holdthislpermanently1984]

The keyboard settings you had shown during the end of the video, are they useful on a dell laptop?

[@NinjaGamer820]

I love the keyboard controls, but I find shorthopping is difficult. Any tips? I'm also finding it hard to find comfortable buttons to use for C-Stick. Well now C-Keys

[@rudeonion2816]

Can you do a dash cancel with a controller? I found it really easy with a key board

[@timboneiod1780]

I have a gc controller adapter coming today for smash 4, however, I ordered one that should work for pc as well. Right now I think keyboard will be better due to the advanced tech, however I will give feedback later today.

[@jreed2047]

hey, I just started playing and am using a controller. What are the best deadzone and radius settings?

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

what type of keyboard do you have? As a qwerty keyboard user, my layout is different.

[@tnturnip]

0:35 lol look at the wasd keys, all except that lonely a key

[@sirmatic2776]

Me and a friend both use keyboard controls but usually play on the same game with the number pad. Is it possible to allow bpth of us to play with WASD(reg keys) at the same time???

[@its7aco]

SiR two keyboards plugged in

[@NinjaGamer820]

I use dtap dash cause I find that I can control the speed. Sometimes when I'm going for follow-ups at a low percent, I move too fast and I go past the person. But thats a double edged sword because at high percents, I have a slight delay due to the need to dtap

[@coldboy5527]

It’s kinda hard for me lol to get used to planning a place for my c stick on the keyboard.

[@nyanyaneo123]

I mainly use the keyboard, just make a few tweaks to the original layout and it's good.

[@sirmatic2776]

Umm Im having trouble registering?? I've been trying to play you on your Viewer battle streams plz help ;-;

[@SparkleFoxGames]

I use L to dash, I use Tap Jump, I use H,B,N and M to Smash. (C buttons)

[@ginatails]

Are you able to use a mouse to attack in SSF2?

[@SnoozeYaLose]

Why are your C-buttons mapped so oddly?

[@pigeonstudios8690]

I use arrow keys, space for attack, enter for special, and number buttons for grab and shield

[@grimm2999]

I cant dair with my xbox controller for something

[@buttery_gooch6]

I'm sad. I can't use my GC controller. I play on a Mac.

[@zexal8505]

I've always used keyboard, and it has always worked for me.

[@Yami-Roo]

that outro is fire

[@ndescruzur4378]

I use the joy-cons punching the screen like in arms.

[@frame3862]

I use tap jump on keyboard to do things like reverse shine jc up tilt which is useful

[@emilkan1167]

I use the switch pro controller because that’s the only Bluetooth controller I have. And in my opinion it’s hard to shield and grab with the keyboard.