What are the consequences of Germany's ban on chick killing? | DW Documentary

[@thegrandlord2914]

Here in Indonesia, male chick still raised to produce meat, although it will producing meat with stronger taste. Usualy the meat will sold in rural area, since people in rural area like to eat meat with stronger taste. Sometimes the meat will sold to food factory, such as chicken sausage or nugget

[@Faustobellissimo]

I don't understand. Here in Italy, young male chickens are castrated to make them "capons" and they're highly appreciated. Just like with every young male of any other animal species raised for meat...

[@KyrilPG]

Yeah, but that's apparently not the case for the specific species that gives the most productive laying hens. Plus, castration isn't exactly ethical either.

[@Faustobellissimo]

@@KyrilPG Nah, I think it's just a marketing problem. Capons cost more because the castration procedure is costly. If Germans don't know this type of meat, they will need to be educated. And... is it ethical to castrate your cat or your dog?

[@KyrilPG]

@@Faustobellissimo Corrected a major type, it's in all caps : The "chapons" here in France are NOT from the same subspecies as the laying hens, they use proper chickens like yellow chicken, etc. Cats and dogs get anesthesia for this, but the chicks do not. In the video, they said that the chicks are "anesthetized" before being shredded, but they don't in many countries where the chicks are directly sent to the shredder alive and kicking. I've put "anesthetized" in quotes because it's probably CO2 pseudo euthanasia, not anesthesia. So it can't be used for chapons / capons.

[@catalina5382]

Not these ones, these are egg chicken, these are killed because they are useless and not good for meat. They don't grow fast enough for the meat industry

[@nolongerinbetween3913]

@@KyrilPG So your ethics are based on anesthesia... :)))

[@Automedon2]

Strange how it's cheaper to raise chickens in Poland and ship them all the way to Ghana than it is in Ghana itself.

[@agme8045]

Im guessing it’s due to the huge EU subsidies to farmers. Europe exports plenty of food to Africa, it’s not just chickens. Yet they oppose to a trade agreement with Mercosur..

[@vijayhardaha]

The world is so stupid. They don't even know that raising chicken requires 10x meal than a human meal 🤭 so stupidity is really amazing, we feed 10 people worth meal to a chicken and then it's served to 1 person and then we say we are poor and hungry. Clap for those stupid who think chicken, cow, pigs eat less than human and can raise with air only 🤣

[@someguy2135]

Most people don't really care about the cruelty needed for their food. They just want something on the package that tells them it isn't cruel.

[@pierrex3226]

The level of stupidity of this law is incredible.

[@GKP999]

Why?

[@vijayhardaha]

@@pierrex3226 Humans protesting against murder and want to continue the murder. Just wow moment.

[@Knightmare919]

This is why I hate most politicians there are so unqualified they do not know what they are doing they are so out of touch of reality.

[@kennyboifoods2171]

​@@GKP999 simple, eugenics is common in agriculture so that the farms focus only on the animals that are profitable. If farms are forced to raised livestock that no one wants they will go bankrupt.

[@mathijsd3764]

The government is funding scientific research to develop new techniques for improving the sector. I would argue that the law is effectieve. Sure the market lacks behind, but that is how it has always been. Until producers are obliged to invest in improved practices, most of them do not have the time, willingness, money, or knowledge to do so.

[@GreenAppelPie]

What did everyone expect?

[@BotDetector-44]

People thinks that chicken nuggets grow on trees, what did you expect?

[@TheBooban]

I’m not sure. I’m 5 mins in and realize this important rights issue is not worth my time. What is the outcome of the male chicks? Is it bad? Then fix it. Hire that Kennedy guy Trump got. He can do it.

[@TheBooban]

@@AL-lh2ht yeah I don’t think he was anti vax though. Just don’t force people.

[@someguy2135]

Kennedy is not exactly the man for the job of reducing cruelty in animal agriculture. Remember he's the guy who thinks it's funny to pose with a dead bear cub and a dead goat that looks like a dog that he was eating

[@someguy2135]

Anyone who looks into the question knows that animal agriculture is inherently cruel. The only question is how cruel. It requires needless killing of beings who can suffer and do not want to die. The Simple Solution is to just switch to a plant-based food system.

[@ClockSeeker]

Poultry prices will rise. It is a food industry not free range farm raised. Soon the local poultry will be more expensive than the import one.

[@someguy2135]

I could cite a study that showed that switching to a purely plant-based diet could save about a third of your food budget here in developed countries. The most expensive products in the store are animal products and the cheapest ones are beans rice pasta Etc

[@Honorablepitbull]

So stupid! Use the male product for pet foods and raw feeding for dogs and cats.

[@iscotwori6905]

It's expensive

[@someguy2135]

You make a good point that maximum profit is always the bottom line. The solution is to end animal agriculture in favor of a plant-based food system. Each of us can reduce the demand for animal products by switching to a plant-based diet. As far as saving money on an individual level, you could save about a third of your food budget by switching to a whole food plant-based diet.

[@ErnieSesameStreet]

Chicken provide meat or eggs are treated crudely, whether the eggs are female or male.

[@Utuber8282]

Thank you for this informative report! 😢 It's so sad, though....

[@aliraza-vv1po]

This is absurd. Those male chicks can be good source of food in the wild

[@mahnamahna3252]

They are a domesticated livestock. Not wild animals..

[@aliraza-vv1po]

@mahnamahna3252 they are just food source . They are not meant to survive in the wild.

[@mahnamahna3252]

@@aliraza-vv1po that's what I said.... YOU said for them to be "in the wild "

[@gerry1617]

@@mahnamahna3252 he meant to be eaten by wild predators

[@FatTigerOnATree]

Why do you use the term brother roosters? Why brother and not simply rooster? Does it have some other meaning?

[@ThePmloc]

We agree that battery raised chickens do not have an ideal life. Now we are insisting that the male chicken must indure that too, and the end is the same, but the brother chick is more aware of its fate. I won't bother to go into the downside of transport to and effect on Ghana.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Germany, sending it's unwanted in mass to Poland. Keep to your roots.😂

[@darkbozo11]

Sending it's animals and people to their promised land

[@mahnamahna3252]

And harming Ghana

[@earlyaguilar4033]

In philippines they eat it as " one day old chick" its a delicious street foods,you can also buy the rotten egg "penoy" also the balut.There will be no waste

[@someguy2135]

Cultures can learn to eat any type of animal product regardless of how cool it is. In some Asian cultures eating dogs is common for example. Unless you grew up in a culture where eating baby chicks is common and accepted you will have a hard time convincing people to adopt that practice.

[@MrNetAble]

Germany is gone Mad.

[@someguy2135]

The intention behind this law is admirable however they did not write it in such a way as to achieve what was intended. The only real result was to make consumers feel Justified to buy a product which is inherently cruel since the needless killing of individuals who can suffer and do not want to die is wrong.

[@WhiteMouse77]

...why they don't process roosters into pet/ZOO/salmon fodder directly after hatching?🤔

[@pynn1000]

The new German law made this illegal.

[@NyanyiC]

@@WhiteMouse77 if they can't be killed as soon as they hatch? when then is it permissible according to this law?

[@ukrainiansareproto-mesopat9235]

caring about such this issue is exclusive to europeans

[@sillyheadphone]

In China, they sell live young male roosters for soup/bone broth purposes. You could still make a small profit to hype up the homemade bone broth.

[@saberalgeriano]

chick killing!! that's disturbing..

[@heikechilds2816]

Why? Carnivores/ omnivores don't get to eat meat unless it is killed first!

[@hiho7847]

Sounds cruel, but it is a very quick death. Otherwise who is going to fund the bill? I watched on KZbin that one well paid job nobody wants is checking the sexes of the chicks and discarding the males. I don't remember in which country it was filmed. It paid about €5000. Yet people couldn't keep the job for long as it was traumatic.

[@catalina5382]

Well.. in the meat industry the standard of killing chimen for meat is around 6 weeks so even those are practically babies.

[@SebBohan]

@@heikechilds2816 No one is saying that it is wrong to eat meat or that it is not normal for a lion to catch and kill a gazelle to eat however the point is that the mass consumption and horrible conditions faced by chickens at 0:12 is disturbing.

[@someguy2135]

No one is saying that eating meat is wrong? We vegans have said that from the beginning! This video proves that animal agriculture is inherently cruel. It is also unnecessary because humans do not need to consume animal products to thrive. In fact those who do not live longer and healthier lives. We are less likely to develop the most common chronic and deadly diseases in developed countries

[@chucknarras]

Yeah this was to be expected. Reduce egg consumption

[@malcolmdexterdurotan4195]

In phillipines we can sell that in the street called balot known exotic food in the country 😂 no waste

[@Knightmare919]

❤

[@dethertee]

Balut is Duck egg it isn't relevant to this video.

[@anonymous13141]

I think it's a good thing but at the wrong time. I thought life is tough enough in Germany. Energy cost is higher, economy not doing well, now protein cost is set to increase further.

[@agme8045]

If only France would accept the Mercosur-EU free trade agreement… imagine how much the prices of BASIC commodities would decrease! Poor people would benefit the most, and the government could use the BILLIONS, that they currently give in subsidies to greedy farmers, for much better causes like improving social housing, healthcare and education!

[@JoshTheWhale]

Agree with You, but not really when it comes to protein cost, read up some charts, data on profit margins etc. also if You are concerned only about protein, why not go for lentils etc.? Has been my budget option in the past, even soy without any issues.

[@user-wi6uk3om3j]

Animal farmers always demanding more and more public €, while most of kcalories and nutrients from our diets come from cereals beans and vegetables...

[@agme8045]

If only France accepted the Mercosur-EU trade agreement… the farmers lobby is starving European needy

[@greeenjeeens]

And using up more and more of land and resources.

[@someguy2135]

I had to scroll quite a while to finally find a comment that I agreed with. Animal agriculture is inherently cruel because needless killing of beings who can suffer and do not want to die is not ethically Justified. Humans do not need to eat animal products to thrive.

[@agme8045]

@@someguy2135 we don’t need to have exploitative mines that destroy entire ecosystems either, but we wouldn’t have phones or the internet to complain about it otherwise!

[@redhammer5783]

@@someguy2135 ya we do actually, you cant find everything you need in plants

[@TheStockwell]

I don't think there's enough irrelevant Whataboutism, self-serving comparisons, and false equivalencies in the comments. 🙄

[@somerandomfella]

@@TheStockwell so offensive! 😂

[@someguy2135]

We know your opinion about the comments but we do not know your opinion about the subject of this video.

[@rosamariewanjiru8659]

It's so sad to see the excesses the Western world has while here in africa children die of malnutrition

[@greeenjeeens]

Europe's decadence will be it's downfall.

[@KS0102]

Y'all need to stop breeding so many kids. It is rediculous to think they will live decent lives on an already overpopulated planet!

[@iamheretopleaseyou]

Did not expect to hear Kraft und Licht as choice of music at the beginning

[@nyabinghi870]

Am from Ghana and I don't eat imported chicken, meat or fish....

[@ArumWaharatri]

This is viral in Indonesia there's this fyi post or knowledge page sharing about how male chicken would be disposed because they don't really beneficial in poultry industry abroad And people said "Oooh how chickens here have far more better destiny though they'll end up eaten too"

[@robwyyi]

The remaining question still remains, what will replace the protein source. Without an answer the law will lose its authority. This law is not a holistic approach

[@tats8666]

Although it would be a more long term strategy, couldn't they select for roosters which fertilize eggs that tend to produce more females and less males? It's not like the hens are artificially inseminated and there would have to be a ratio between the number of hens to which a single rooster to could viably fertilize. If they track the birds, the eggs, the chicks, and analyze the data, they could not only select for more females being hatched in proportion, but also which hens are the best layers to increase productivity, and also hatch some sample eggs from egg farms with that data to increase genetic diversity for a healthier population for additional reasons like disease resistance.

[@mahnamahna3252]

What an absurd waste of time and resources for everyone involved. Reduce government so they become more efficient at doing their actual job rather than creating problems.

[@1Bhishu]

Why didn't the animal rights activists adopt them🤷🏿‍♂️

[@dermotlynch2223]

This story is incomplete - there needs to be more done on the economics involved. Frankly what's told doesn't make sense. If it's significantly more expensive to raise roosters for meat, then how can that more expensively raised meat in Europe, be then sent all the way to Ghana and sold more cheaply than chicken meat raised locally, and presumably with much less cost?

[@АгронДепартье]

How local chickens in Ghana is more expensive? Labor, tax, land, water is cheaper. Is grain more expensive?

[@TrashbinCat]

They should send all the male chickens to live with Julia Klockner

[@sachins117]

😂😂😂

[@ChibiKeruchan]

Why is this a problem? I thought they were raise a bit to turn it into a dog food.

[@valiantheart8891]

Male chicks can be easily sold in the Subcontinent .

[@SERGIO-cr6uy]

Who's gonna ship them there? Please think before posting a comment

[@Jnewland235]

Does that mean no more chicken McNuggets😂😂😂😂

[@ZETA14.88]

just grow them normally and sell then as manly chicken for men wtf is wrong with westoid

[@FrostTHammer]

25:55 mislabeled when they arrive in Ghana as "Hen Wings". A hen being a female chicken.

[@NyanyiC]

when does life begin though

[@jackbleiham8475]

"How "did life begin frustrates scientists more than ever.

[@MyKnifeJourney]

Even chicken meat from male chickens is likely better than fake meat alternatives.

[@Red-Robin4]

ITS NOT BETTER BECAUSE I DONT HAVE TO KILL A BEAUTIFUL SWEET ANIMAL TO EAT THE MEAT THAT I EAT!! SO VEGAN IS DEFINITELY BETTER!!

[@TheStockwell]

I'll believe that when 10 million pounds of Beyond Burgers are recalled because of listeria or salmonella contamination! 😂

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

why kill free food

[@GolDRoger-fx2fp]

It's just waste of food while many people are starving around the world..

[@markericksonmartin1788]

When you realize that Germany still practicing extermination of non-essential beings😩

[@xeero24]

Imagine - killing a chicken at birth outrages the same people who want to kill a baby in their mother’s womb.

[@authoritybias9678]

U vegan ?

[@laederpiska]

Price on chicken nuggets sky rockets

[@Oblivion___]

This is so stupid.🤦🤦

[@WhiteMouse77]

Hello And Welcome to human civilization! 😂

[@jojobird5545]

Logically... the consequences would be lower chicken prices, alot of chicken for eveyone🍗🍽🍗🍽🍗🍽🍗🍽

[@somerandomfella]

The meat Germany considers waste could be sold in Asia.

[@In_one_nose_out_the_other]

Chick-fil-A

[@TheBooban]

@@In_one_nose_out_the_otherchick fella

[@agme8045]

That’s literally what they are already doing, but they sell it to African countries instead lol

[@OR10777BE]

Really? Aside from the cost of such an operation being prohibitive, the environmental and humanitarian consequences of shipping the livestock would be enormous and the purpose of the laws are intended to improve animal wellbeing, so clearly shipping to Asia would undermine the intention.

[@somerandomfella]

@OR10777BE the meat ended up in Ghana didn't it?

[@MarCin-j4n]

What about capon, sterilized roosters. These gain weight pretty well.

[@57113]

And we call ourselves humans? What male species will be next?

[@SaikouBojan]

Or mother Africa why why

[@j.a.0088]

What about Coq au vin .

[@uioplkhj]

Someone forgot to mute the german before dubbing or lowering it.

[@OR10777BE]

This has a transparency purpose, as the viewer can potentially deduce whether the interpretation is accurate. This is appropriate for reportage.

[@TheVitamin421]

I didn't even know chick culling was a thing, I guess you really do learn something new everyday... even if it is so disturbing

[@lusimyer]

Tbh..a lot of horrible stuff happens to animals being raised for us to eat. They even de-beak the hens kept in cramped cages so they can't attack each other. So many things go on. Even cows suffer to produce enough milk for the world to drink...sometimes we don't even realise the depth of it all.

[@raymondtshuma1950]

At least if you export to Africa we wont have to eat chicken once a month,

[@theguildofthetranquilpine5360]

I’m sure the zoos and private exotic animals keepers would love them??????

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[@ralsim5308]

First world problem: developing a technology to detect chicken embryo's gender at 3 days of incubation. 😅😅😅 meanwhile other countries struggle with war and stuff

[@agme8045]

Most countries are not struggling with war lol I’m from a 3rd world country and here the farmers and the government are discussing about cow chips lol Most of the world is not a sh1th0le lol

[@mayuradilz6735]

Just thinking about this

[@Zenith121691]

Chicken nuggets most affected.

[@gypo_gault]

Tell that to the Chinese

[@willyhwang1059]

i dont eat eggs or milk

[@TheNewLooter]

It's crazy when you realize that people are appalled by instantly killing newborn chickens, yet see nothing wrong when a human child is torn to pieces, its body is sucked out of the womb and thrown into trash. Sad! German people need to check their moral compass (yet again)

[@TheNewLooter]

@@G0nxsf A fetus is a human by every objective metric. It's not right to murder it just because the person that forced it to live doesn't feel like carrying it.

[@agme8045]

Didn’t you watch the video? The average person eats about 250 chicken fetuses every year lol why’d anyone care about human fetuses

[@jackbleiham8475]

​@@agme8045most people are glad that they weren't aborted as fetuses

[@lannguyen-pu1db]

Maybe only choose sperms with female chicken chromosomes? Maybe use AI/robot lab worker to reduce cost?

[@nivedithka29]

Are you going to DNA test every sperm?

[@danpress7745]

Solution, STOP EATING eggs

[@jeffransom2977]

Yhea unacceptable to kill animals while supporting human beings

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Male chicks, there's a lot more of them in society than before.

[@chaos5104]

Lol German economy, who pass this laws lol😂 I need to see world smarter leadership..

[@Whoknows123-i6c]

Animal life more worth than baby life? 😭

[@brunawitt4973]

A chicken doesn’t go to college, lives 80 years and needs hospitals, schools and a house. Birthing a human is not comparable with a chicken egg and the food production.

[@vijayhardaha]

@@Whoknows123-i6c You think human baby is above the animal baby. So you are ok to eat and kill the animal baby. Same way another human thinks his own baby is above your baby so doesn't care about your baby. So this is how poor and rich game start. And then we complain rich are doing this and that. But we forget that how this started? We think we are above someone that someone could be animal, or human. The day you think you are above someone the difference game begins but this fact is not easily acceptable by many person. Because they want to kill animals for taste but want the respect and equality from society. It could never happen until you start respecting animals. The compassion and empathy must be developed otherwise you can just shout, scream and cry but you can't change anything. To bring the change you must change. But I am sure you are against veganism as well. So continue your debates and keep crying..nothing will happen unless you change your thinking.

[@tomnguyen1045]

you guys need to spend your money on defense instead of these non-sense, the russian are coming,

[@NUSACIPTAFARM]

Chick more important than child in palestin 😂

[@jackbleiham8475]

Only in " Western eyes"

[@Theworstchannelposting]

Chickens will infest your land and your barely bigger then texas. Lol

[@lewisvang1927]

They never met asians....trust. 100 asian families can buy up to 40,000 chickens..

[@anaberibot]

PET ROOSTER

[@EqqqKdh]

And they didnt banned aborts yet -_-. What a hypocrites

[@WhiteMouse77]

Whom Are you missing? Another extra 8 bill pple ? For what? Even more problems? 🙄

[@EqqqKdh]

@WhiteMouse77 i just know, that you cant kill your child. You cant kill any man, and you cant kill your child. Its a very big sin.

[@TheStockwell]

The last time I checked, babies weren't being bred to produce meat for human consumption. Until I see a McFetus sandwich on the menu at McDonald's, there's no valid comparison between the two.

[@jackbleiham8475]

​WhiteMouse77:its still hypocrisy but yeah family planning can be done without abortion

[@G0nxsf]

Farming animals has only ever served the barbarous vanities of humans, as demand for ever higher profits grow that barbarity has only grown worse....

[@johngil3692]

It is interesting how they agree there is life in that egg But a human embryo is🤔

[@authoritybias9678]

You're vegan?

[@HifzakhanKhan-eq4gk]

🤔

[@felixnystromer2685]

🐤❤️

[@viraljogot7529]

❤❤

[@PaulWhelan-s2k]

We can make plant seeds female only why not animals.

[@MrAB-xc9du]

All laws should be logical, relevant and human's benefits.

[@WhiteMouse77]

In the perfect world....😏

[@jeffransom2977]

They better not eat them! Oh no 😢

[@o.0.DTL.0.o]

I call this bullshiet 😂

[@jeffransom2977]

Yhea they feel the same way way about the Africans, the Irish, the Arabs, yhe Americans and every other country in the west.

[@jeffransom2977]

Maybe Africa is owed an apology for some accidental Genocidal in the past 🤔

[@redhammer5783]

Who cares?

[@jeffransom2977]

These animal rights activist need to build housing for those chicks, that's the solution to homelessness.

[@jeffransom2977]

It's true! If we didn't ear animals I would be forced to eat my fellow human beings. It's very unfortunate.

[@balsarmy]

😂check how many vegetarians are there in the world

[@jeffransom2977]

Ban peta