What Are They Doing?? (Round 6 - 2024 World Chess Championship)

[@normanlove222]

I purchased the breaking 1500 course Friday. I have not lost a game since. 5 wins in a row. True story.

[@WaldoWizard]

@@normanlove222 i think Nelson is challenging YOU.. 😉 😜.. Nelson.. ??!!

[@Chunes3]

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated endgames are. It's like a whole new game that's twice as hard.

[@rogergeyer9851]

For me, it's ALL about the endgame in chess. I hate memorizing openings, but I LOVE learning the concepts to help me play more and more endgames well. Even just practical K+P endgames can be QUITE nuanced. So watching this with the unusual Rook ending and all the subtleties of dealing with that advanced pawn (which I instinctively would never have pushed from that beautiful pawn chain at that point) was just great fun. It's just crazy how much of all the subtleties they SEE over the board in such positions. I would have played Q-g3 at the critical moment for Ding, so at least I had that right.

[@anttikangasvieri1361]

Endgames are great when you are old and cant find a 3-move combination even If your life depended on it.

[@jeffreyjordan213]

Agreed

[@bullymaguire8266]

Im 24, am i old​@@anttikangasvieri1361

[@andrewbennett5911]

Certainly the most entertaining game so far , thanks as ever Nelson for your easy to understand explanations of why the players moved as they did in complicated positions

[@matt4477]

Your explanation of Knight to D2 was amazing. Thank you

[@StevenFfr]

So for anyone wondering: Round 1:Ding Won Round 2:Draw Round 3:Gukesh Won Round 4:Draw Round 5:Draw Round 6:Draw

[@msolec2000]

15:10 to see Nelson blunder mate in one both ways

[@Tre-g8o]

Lmao idk what that was about

[@MegaChriz]

@@Tre-g8o 15:12 White Queen to G7 is checkmate.

[@Tre-g8o]

@@MegaChriz I know

[@PearFinch]

Unless you unleash the shotgun king…

[@lejazzetmoi1775]

It's not a big deal he didn't show the exact line Qg5 Qxg5 | Rxg5 Rxd2 | Kxd2 Rxa2 | the main idea was the rook invading at a2 (and white being one pawn down with a messed up structure).

[@alfienykabutler5919]

I love that disclaimer "don't try this at home folks." 😅

[@q45ij54q]

Ding had a passed pawn on the c-file for most of the game and never even tried to push it. I'm not a GM but that seems like a missed opportunity.

[@BananaDope]

I don't know dude, the king seems pretty dangerous in that case

[@saqlaindhanse3631]

15:11 - The trade is not possible after Qg5 because of the ‘Mate in 1’ threat, although there are other moves than the trade 😅 Just wanted to point out.

[@negocpu4739]

Nelson just casually blundering checkmate in one for white around the 15 min mark xD

[@lejazzetmoi1775]

it's not a blunder, because it's irrelevant for the main idea of this variant (Rxa2)

[@kingsolo6241]

It’s different from games of old where you can take many chances. It’s in the age of computers where all openings are studied to the max with best moves played for 25 moves. I think Ding is going to take draws as wins to get Gukesh to rapid games to go against Gukesh’s weaknesses. But if Ding isn’t careful Gukesh could take the last game. This game was in Ding’s favor for a while. This is the game Ding shouldn’t have let slipped away.

[@edwardlong4983]

Loving your videos on the WCC! Is there any way in the future to modify the overlay to show what move the players are on to give a bit more context for the time remaining? Would love to keep track of how many moves they have left to move 40.

[@vikramgunasekar9847]

I think the reason Gukesh went for a draw in the previous game was because Ding played French for the 2nd time and Gukesh had only one line prepped for French and he already used it up, so went for a safer option.

[@rogergeyer9851]

That's a good idea. As a weak opening player, aside from concepts, I NEVER have anything really "prepared" so I didn't think of that.

[@Calibrownsfan]

change scoring so a win is 2 points, and a draw is minus 1/2 for a player who is leading, plus 1/2 for trailing player. If players are tied a draw is minus 1 for white and zero for black. Make drawing have some consequence for one of the players so they are not both motivated to draw.

[@kwhd559]

The thumbnail should have been 'What are they Dinging!' 😂

[@Truffle_Pup]

15:10 leaves the black queen hanging Nelson, Rd2 is not a move. Even the eval bar flies up for white.

[@williamsquires3070]

Even better, Qxg7#!

[@williamsquires3070]

(@28:08) Yes, black can get a queen, but white can get a queen with check! If black takes the time to go after white’s passed pawn, white goes after black’s passed pawn. If they both get a queen, it would be drawish, but white’s queenside pawns can make a fortification for white’s king to hide behind, while black’s king is out in the open.

[@CarlSong]

I'm seeing a drawing position as well. Why is stockfish giving advantage to black?

[@Muiruri1776]

You break it down so well.... I'll be a Grandmaster in no time 😅

[@JamesQMurphy]

Dare to dream

[@bryanrisso7508]

Love the channel!

[@hblumdonanal2603]

because ding only going for draw😂

[@DatQvex]

13:39 he said in the conference he thought his position was not bad and he wanted to push for a longer game because they will rest tomorrow basically he wanted to play some chess

[@varunkulkarni24]

I don't understand, Fabi and Magnus drew all their games, nobody was making videos like this....all of sudden why everyone expecting fireworks every game...why don't we just sit back and see till game 14 ends till we make any statement....

[@dimasfaiz236]

Nah the problem is both play cowardly choosing the variation that have a big chance to be draw (while there are clearly a war option) . Magnus and fabi go for the win

[@MrBabadis]

Yeah let them play the halloween gambit!😎

[@wesleybrooks1538]

We don’t wait until after game 14 to analyze because that takes two weeks and also each game is played one at a time. So we observe and analyze and think about each game one at a time.

[@Kelly-i5z9g]

You make a good point about not accepting the draw as black and playing for a draw as white before. The only thing I can think of is sometimes you just know you got the good stuff that day and sometimes not so much.

[@MichaelGrigoriev]

Hikaru has a good explanation for both the early light square bishop trade, and the h5 pawn capture in his analysis.

[@JosephBrown-xx5mi]

Love these breakdowns. Watch most of your videos, but these are my favorite.

[@johannwhitty5748]

Hey Nelson thank you so much for your comentry on this tournament, i have never been interested in watching the top tournaments before because they are so far above my understanding eg why are they playing this move and that move, i just couldn't understand it, and you Nelson have opened that door for me you are the most helpful clever and understandable chess coach in the Internet at the moment and I think that you have a brilliant mind and you are a really fantastic i hope that you get recognised for your outstanding efforts for helping encouraging and entertaining all of us in the chess world. THANK YOU SO MUCH 😊

[@msolec2000]

I've been noticing something. Why do games start with a random number of seconds short of two hours?

[@MarkStoddard]

it's how much time they took to make their first moves; here it's 7s

[@michigan53105]

Nelson I bought your breaking 1500 course and it took me to the chess vibes yt channel

[@Calibrownsfan]

7:45 why not Qxd5 centralizing the queen, keeping the pawn structure intact, and preparing a dangerous assault on the open G and F files? This also leaves blacks e4 pawn hanging and he has double isolated a and c pawns.

[@NJDJ1986]

@ 21:52 it's amazing how Black's king went to a journey to attack White's rook, if that were the move!

[@michigan53105]

Jack sark says watch how GM play watch the chess at the highest level. Nelson says watch but don’t replicate. Conflicting messaging but Nelson the goat so

[@3rnestito993]

3:57 - 4:10 If a beginner does this its dumb but when a GM does it its genius LOL

[@revgeargamer6249]

What if black pushed the pawn to h3 before moving king to g7

[@user-gr5tx6rd4h]

Ding doesn't give a Dang about that

[@WaldoWizard]

Nelson , what would happen if the W Rook went to F2 and sandwiched the black queen on the F file ? . its that point where you said it was critical for Ding . around move 40

[@aconcernedcitizen4669]

That is what I thought he was going to recommend… Nelson please look at that…

[@konroh2]

If the Qs are traded then black can set up a 4 pawn chain that boxes in W's R. I think it's not a great position for W.

[@MichaelLewchuk]

It seems to me that Stockfish is also Check-happy. It seems it will overvalue a move simply because it's check even if the check accomplishes nothing

[@Fronkenstien]

Trying to buy chess vibes on the Black Friday sale and I'm not seeing it... Do you have a code or something I can use?

[@adithya682]

❤❤❤ I watched your first rating climb video where you played traxler against fried liver where you got 100 accuracy 😮 it was awesome 🎉 It is funny how you say, 🗣I don't know the theory 😂 And play the best move 😅

[@Optim40]

gukesh playing like a damn scary cat.

[@JamesMc2051]

Usual disclaimer - I'm no GM. My interest is as an amateur and watching the odd WCs. But....both seem really passive and positional to me. Maybe that's just top level chess now. I can't help feel a bit of aggression and bravery is often rewarded in some of the positions seen so far and this match up desperately needs that - someone to seize the advantage. Kasparov would be all over both of them by now and dictating things.

[@mcbescheiden725]

You can really see, that the best chess player is not parcitipassing

[@rudiausbuddeln7573]

Look at that handsome thumbnail boi

[@skipugh]

Ding keeps going for draws even when he’s ahead. He has zero confidence in himself. He wasted his time advantage. He’s obviously no Magnus who would have won this one easily. Then again, aside from Magnus, no one plays the endgame like Magnus (and engines). Ding never pushed his pawns and that was his BIG advantage.

[@Calibrownsfan]

definitely playing "not to lose" instead of playing to win.

[@manasdwivedi-k4o]

NICE ANALYSIS 👍😊

[@bingxilao9086]

I don't understand Ding's h file pawn advancement!

[@alexandraison6429]

Nelson what do you think if Ding would have pushed? Isn’t that the key to endgames? Don’t babysit push your own pawns? I’m only 800 elo by the way lol

[@speedking434]

28:06 if black goes h4 to h3 trying to get a queen, you can counter with white going e5 to e6 promoting a queen too, but with check to black king, so isn't it better?!

[@Skinsfan819]

Why not Re5 earlier to challenge Black's control of the file?

[@smoothcoder1]

24:19 this is the best move though according to engine

[@MrKockabilly]

7:46 Why did Ding play Pxe5? Isn't Qxe5 the better move?

[@jedneon]

Pretty sure pawn takes is better so the white queen defends the pawn on E3 (otherwise Gukesh just keeps gobbling pawns). I guess there were other moves to defend but pxe5 accomplishes both. @Nelson is always telling us to prefer moves that accomplish multiple things!

[@MrKockabilly]

@@jedneon but if after Qxe5 and Black queen takes pawn at e3, White can reply with Rd1e1 and take black pawn at e4 next move. By then the white queen could also apply pressure on g7 and the queen-rook battery would apply pressure on e8 as well.

[@josephmarinucci9073]

First time following the world chess championsip game by game. I tried watching live, but kept falling asleep. These reviews are great. In my experience, the London can lead to some aggressive attacking ideas for white. But not with Ding trading off most of his pieces from the very beginning, then trying to cement a draw with an early Queen trade. Hooray for Gukesh declining the early Queen trade and fighting for a victory. Ding's defense was solid, but not fun to watch.

[@tessg4799]

THESE GAMES ARE SOOOOO ANNOYING!!!!!!! Why don't they play with gusto?! Where is the bravery? Where is the confidence?

[@bilguunnyamaa7767]

It's still too early

[@larrycarter3765]

They prefer to win.

[@Calibrownsfan]

change scoring so a win is 2 points, and a draw is minus 1/2 for a player who is leading, plus 1/2 for trailing player. If players are tied a draw is minus 1 for white and zero for black. Make drawing have some consequence for at least one of the players so they are not both motivated to draw.

[@jwickerszh]

15:10 "You can't do that because you don't have time, he's gonna trade" .. well yeah but that's missing mate in one (TBF the engine line is different but that was funny) ..

[@nelsonlopez1228]

Nice video ❤!

[@WaldoWizard]

why not R-F2 when the queens were both on the F file ??

[@cfgauss71]

Is this pogchamps?

[@tim.martin]

10:05 thanks kindly for explaining this (rook to d1 battery).

[@giovannicorno1247]

After black's g6 I would have played c4, starting moving the pawns.

[@sealand000]

17:27 Qg3 or Rf2

[@ayeq6104]

A bit more active than previos but They lack vision and tactics 😢 just eating piece by piece Postmodernism in chess

[@Tre-g8o]

Gukesh just likes to play chess 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Anime_NB]

Hello Nelson!!

[@DukeG14]

the game draw?

[@devrajpatil6117]

Yes

[@darkjudge8786]

This world championship is destroying interest in chess. The supposed top 2 playing like string amatuers is not selling the game. Magnus needs to be brought back and the candidates needs to be changed to enable better players to challenge

[@PunzL]

Is this going to be the worst world chess championship in history? 😂

[@tessg4799]

Yes!

[@riorinaldi4378]

No doubt

[@samarthbagwe1736]

That's ding fault He is playing coward chess , And want to get to Rapid

[@creatingonthemargins1089]

Actually, many world championships have a sig. no. of lackluster games. Refer to most of games 12- 20 from the 1972 Spassky vs. Fischer championship, for example.

[@nighthawk4028]

Actually gukesh was in better position... A draw is well deserved to both.

[@giridharpavan1592]

they are drawing the life out of the game

[@anvb5a1]

Certainly not what i see! I see a super high level endgame battle, way beyond even Nelson by his own admission!

[@rogergeyer9851]

It's not the 19th century. It's NOT about all swashbuckling crazy tactics for top level chess, and hasn't been since, say, the Fischer era.

[@anvb5a1]

@@rogergeyer9851 Exactly, and computers are around, whether we like it or not (just like Fischer hated that), crazy daring tactics, for super prepared long games for the world title would most certainly result in a losing position very quickly.... It's just like that, "machine level chess" and exhausting preparation is the norm. It is in fact what Magnus himself wants to change, classical format is too much of a hassle for a result that looks like machines just drawing games, while in a faster time format, you can eventually go a bit more off the rails and hope to out-calculate the other guy and get some fireworks on the board!

[@Calibrownsfan]

change scoring so a win is 2 points, and a draw is minus 1/2 for a player who is leading, plus 1/2 for trailing player. If players are tied a draw is minus 1 for white and zero for black. Make drawing have some consequence for one of the players so they are not both motivated to draw.

[@ahmad.r.61]

Great 🎉🎉🎉

[@raven-888]

Timid play by Ding. Gukesh deserves to win this, he clearly showed more champion mentality than Ding

[@abberantgeck0]

Garbage chess. This is why there's no money in it. No courage.

[@Calibrownsfan]

change scoring so a win is 2 points, and a draw is minus 1/2 for a player who is leading, plus 1/2 for trailing player. If players are tied a draw is minus 1 for white and zero for black. Make drawing have some consequence for one of the players so they are not both motivated to draw.

[@hamadxRL]

25:55 nelson my g is racist

[@lindseymontana945]

Spoiler alert!!! I usually enjoy your videos, but this week I find myself trying to avoid them because you keep suggesting the likely result with your video titles and facial expressions. For example, this one shouts to the world, "they tied again." Please stop! I don't want to block Chess Vibes but that's where I'm headed. Feingold doesn't spoil the ending.

[@kenadams9725]

First view

[@jbcryptoguru3413]

First😢😢

[@luckymart893]

Third

[@zenfire2003]

These games are starting to look scripted?

[@rogergeyer9851]

And the earth is flat. /s