What Calvinists Actually Believe

[@rayturnermusic]

In his pride Man can scarcely fathom that he is not the center of creation and the purpose of reality. He is but the chief instrument. God remains to be the center of creation and the basis of reality. God is the supreme value. That he creates a world to showcase this and all his attributes is absolutely good. For even the dark spots of that world serve this purpose.

[@aliwatters8111]

The title is not compatible to this video. I still have zero clue what Calvinists believe.

[@Str8Ripper1776]

They believe in works for salvation.

[@Str8Ripper1776]

They also believe that God only saves the "elect," a predestined group of people, and everyone else is damned

[@lynnchelewski2965]

I agree Whoever is doing these youtubes needs called out. I've seen it on Jonathan Cahns as well. The pastors may not even be aware but need to be.

[@sandyhardy3419]

@@Str8Ripper1776 We want to know what he thinks about Calvinists… Not the average Joe

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

​​​@@Str8Ripper1776false. By grace which God has foreseen before our creation, specifically NOT according to works. I'm curious what denomination is teaching falsehoods about others. Most of them, probably. Sectarianism is a sin, and outside of outright heresy, we are NOT to engage in it. Paul wrote as much and there's even a but Jesus said related to it.

[@HighlightTruth]

This whole thing you spoke is compatible with Arminianism also. I didn’t hear one thing that most arminians would disagree with.

[@carlchurch2687]

Excellent summation regarding the sinful state of the natural man. This is a brief but biblically accurate exposition, and is consistent with the teachings of reformed soteriology.

[@Beyondthefirmament]

I was the biggest proponent of TULIP and Reformed salvation… I have come to realize it is a deception and still part of mystery Babylon and would encourage you to pray and ask the Father to reveal truth to you without reading some book written by a man or searching out a website also written by a man. It has been a wild journey but at the end of the day we must love and seek the truth above any confirmation bias or “doctrine” and have the humility to let the Set Apart Spirit lead us into all truth and I am very much still in that journey having in no way arrived

[@lindylong899]

Good explanation Mark. And you called Calvinism "Garbage" in a previous interview. So there's that.

[@hopeinHim5160]

Thank you Pastor Driscol for the excellent message. I have been binging your videos. You are a blessing. May you and yours be richly blessed in Gods perfect will in Jeesus most Holy name, Amen. ✝️🙏❤️

[@Robbie-vu6pl]

Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless

[@cleongionetactor]

Great clip! Amen-people really need to hear this! 👍🏻✝️

[@soundknight]

Thank you, I was looking for a way to explain the thought / feeling I had had for years that ~ God found me, I wasn't lost to him I was lost from him. He never lost his eye upon me but I had stopped looking for him like a spoiled child.

[@emoure77]

Here is the biblical answer: " Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, That it cannot save; Nor His ear heavy, That it cannot hear. But YOUR INIQUITIES have separated you from your God; And YOUR SINS have hidden His face from you, So that He WILL NOT hear." Isaiah 59:1,2 This is the God of the bible. When we are in BLATANT SIN and rebellion, we ( everyone) are separated from God. Sin separates us from God, dying physically IN those sins will separate you from God for ETERNITY. Which CAN happen to the elect by the way...which is why REPENTANCE is COMMANDED, not suggested. " Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but NOW COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to ALL by raising Him from the dead.” Acts 17:30,31

[@waholoopesorry74]

@@emoure77The elect will not die in their sins. Jesus will gather each and every one of His sheep that have been elected since before the foundation of the earth

[@emoure77]

​@@waholoopesorry74HOW do YOU KNOW YOU'RE an " elect "? A NON ELECT could be saying everything you are right now, only they're not elect, so how do YOU know YOU'RE not that person? According to Calvin, election is UNCONDITIONAL. Behavior or any kind of condition does not qualify as a criteria of who the elect even are.

[@waholoopesorry74]

@@emoure77 regeneration is the evidence of being in the elect. if one is regenerated and made into a new creature then they are one of the elect

[@lindylong899]

@@emoure77 That's an excellent question and the true answer is they Can't possibly know. So many people have turned from the Christian faith in later years and the Calvinist will say that they were never saved. So how do they know they are? There is zero assurance of salvation in Calvinism and they know it, but won't say it out loud. Judas was chosen by Christ, but was he saved? It's a dreadful systematic and I see so many get absorbed by it only to reject it later or reject Christianity completely because of the ramifications of these beliefs. It's sad, really.

[@JamesBarber-cu5dz]

It's truly astonishing that the Reformed tradition was formed by self taught Calvin and poorly trained former Catholic priests. Resulting in lots of novelties that have led to countless denominations and splits, attempting to resolve the kinds of inherent theological tensions never having previously existed in the Church. In contrast, the Lutheran Reformation was led by professional theologians and it has resulted in only a fraction of the controversies and splits.

[@fanman8102]

To be completely honest I have no problem with Calvinism except for predestination. When I ask these questions I can’t get a solid answer. 1) in John 3:14-18 Jesus said, “whoever” or “anyone.” You’re telling me Jesus was lying? 2) Why did Jesus tell the Lost Parables about souls that were chosen before the beginning of time? 3) The Apostles were not Calvinist, they were Jews. Nor did the Apostles follow the teachings of the New Testament. Why did it take until the 1500’s for this specific doctrine to surface?

[@maxstrange7606]

1) "Whoever" or "anyone" Is only one side of the same coin. Look at the rest of John 3 that tells us the wind (the Spirit) blows wherever HE WISHES and gives the new birth called BEING BORN AGAIN. 2) God calls people to respond to awakening grace 3) Predestination is all over the Bible. The Apostles believed it because they taught as did the O.T. writers "Israel chosen over other nations" The Church taught that God's grace alone saves since the early church. Augustine in 300AD timeframe articulated most clearly. The pre-Reformation and Reformation teachers were Augustinian.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

@@fanman8102 1. The Bible often says all/everyone/world when it clearly isn't meant to be taken literally. That doesn't make it a lie any more than the use of 1000 being "a lot", as if the 1001st hill doesn't count. 2. God knows who will choose Him. He knows everything that will ever happen, even what He chooses to leave to chance or free will. This is evident in scripture. 3. No they were NOT. That is a modern (1800s+) heresy of jxxxxization. Heck, this platform won't even let me type it! They were mostly Hebrew Israelites. Interestingly, Calvinism as in the way it's used by others now and with "TULIP" was decided after Calvin's death, so personally I think we need a different word to discriminate between the 2.

[@emoure77]

@@fanman8102 because that's when John Calvin, the heretical MURDERER Lived, in Geneva Switzerland...where he wrote his heretical views..." Institutes of the Christian religion". Unfortunately, most of CHURCHIANITY views him as a theologian.

[@IkeyP58]

Do you hold that same view of “whoever” when it comes to those who were “dead” in Ephesians 2? Does dead mean dead? I would encourage you to read all of chapter 3 of John. The apostles may not have been Calvinist but they definitely believed in election and the sovereignty of God. They believed that God initiated the salvation process.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

Whosoever is not in the original greek in John 3:36. Also, yes the Apostles absolutely believed in the New Testament they're the ones who wrote it! You need to come to a better understanding of God's grace. “Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began,” ‭‭II Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬-‭8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@BrownGuyGaming91]

Where is the full sermon I can't find it on his KZbin channel?

[@jameshawthorn9274]

At 4:25 to 5:00, Calvinism is a great example for that point too.

[@BibleBreakout]

I lean Calvinist. However, I’ve noticed a trend over the years where Calvinists tend to convey it as a neo-Gnosticism where “correct knowledge gets you to heaven” over action. We need balance. God is sovereign AND we are accountable. Acts 2:23

[@chriscrutchley2169]

Correct knowledge about what?

[@BibleBreakout]

@@chriscrutchley2169 whatever is deemed dogma for that particular Calvinist. I know some that think if a person’s soteriology is incorrect pertaining to the order of salvation, that person doesn’t truly know Christ because they don’t “understand or acknowledge” His work on the cross. Here’s a question: what does a person have to know correctly in order to be saved?

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@BibleBreakout that’s not true. The debate on Calvinism is a secondary issue debated within the church. It’s an in house debate. We have the same gospel. There may be some Calvinist who say you need to believe it the way they do but there’s not many.

[@BibleBreakout]

@@chriscrutchley2169 I’m not saying all Calvinists are definitively like that. I was saying there is a “tendency” to “convey” it that way. To the point, even as a Calvinist leaning person, I have to ask: where is the line on “proper knowledge” for salvation? Assent to the gospel truths is not salvation. Believing the gospel is true doesn’t bring salvation. Even demons believe. I’d argue they probably have a more accurate theology than most of us. I am 100% for proper thinking, proper systematic theology, proper beliefs, but beliefs are only as good as the actions they produce. Many in modern circles ignore that part and separate actions from thoughts/beliefs hence the Neo-Gnosticism.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@BibleBreakoutI’m not sure if I’m picking up exactly what you’re getting at but most Calvinists at least in reformed theology would say that the actions necessarily follow faith in Christ. That it’s not just a profession of faith and you’re all set. It must be a real saving faith. I’d say the belief without a changed life style or “action” happens more on the non-Calvinist side. Mainly the non-denominational type people. I don’t think you need to have correct knowledge in everything to get into heaven but you need to know the correct gospel.

[@BlessedBeyond13]

God never designed us as robots, even though he knows the choices we make, he gave us free will to choose Him or not to.

[@howardstai6269]

That's called humanism...... what verse is that? You didn't even listen to the information. No, we are not robots, we make choices based on our nature which is evil, sinful and actively at war with God. It's not that difficult. You must be born again.

[@devastatoraudio]

John 15:16 You didn’t choose me. I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce lasting fruit, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask for, using my name.

[@alpacapicnicfarm1789]

Choose this day whom you will serve …. Joshua.

[@jimkraft9445]

@@devastatoraudio He chose Paul and the other apostles for special service. Because they had believed on Him for the free gift of eternal life. Salvation is a free gift. Not faith. Ephesians 2:8-9. For by grace ye are saved, (Romans 11:6) through Faith, (what we believe) and that not of yourselves, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. First Corinthians 1;21. For after that, by the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) to save them that BELIEVE of their own free will. John 6:40 and John 6:29. God is not willing that any should perish. First Timothy 2:4. Second Peter 3:9. But there are those who wrest the scriptures as do others unto their own destruction. Second Peter 3:16-18. Faith is not the gift. Eternal life is the gift to them that believe of their own free will. God in His sovereignty gave man a free will. John 3:16-18. Romans 1:16. Romans 11:6. Romans 6:23. The GIFT of God is eternal life. Not faith or a reward for good behavior, but a free gift by a one time FAITH alone apart from any works. Romans 4:5. Romans 11:6. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. For he hath said, I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU. John 12:32. According to Calvinism, man has an excuse. God did not give them the faith. God does not give faith. He gives eternal life to them that BELIEVE. Romans 5:19-21. Colossians 2:13. John 3:18. Man is without excuse.

[@emoure77]

​@devastatoraudio " Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and DOES NOT keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truthIS NOT in him." 1 John 2:3,4

[@house_church]

Calvin himself did not want a marked grave. Do yourselves and others a big favor and drop the name. 1 Corinthians 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are YOU not carnal?

[@mikehamilton7668]

I've thought that Paul had no idea how his words in 1 Corinthians would apply to the Arminian-Calvinist debate, but I bet the Holy Spirit knew.

[@jameshawthorn9274]

There are more views on this debate than just Arminians and Calvinists.

[@DavidTwig-c5j]

What does Calvin not wanting a marked grave have to do with anything?

[@mikehamilton7668]

@@DavidTwig-c5j Calvin himself knew that it wasn't about him, it was about what Jesus and Paul and Peter had already taught. He didn't want the credit.

[@emoure77]

John Calvin had Michael Servetus MURDERED by having him BURNED ALIVE with green wood,...so the burn was slow on purpose. All because of Servetus's disagreement with Calvin over doctrine. Sound like a bible defined christian to you???? Much less a " theologian". BTW, calvinists are trying DESPERATELY to bury this history....

[@keng9377]

1 Timothy 2:1-4 (ESV) 1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Notice - “who desires all people to be saved” 2 Peter 3:9 (ESV) The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. The Bible says God wants all people to go to Heaven. If anyone isn’t there, it’s because of them, not God’s pre-plan for them.

[@kyledrain8537]

In calvinism Total depravity does not mean that sin has affected every part of us. It means total inability to believe or come to god without being regenerated first by divine grace.

[@eddiesprain8243]

It means both

[@jimdavis9736]

They are our brothers regardless of their belief on free will or sanctification

[@fanman8102]

💯

[@phillipbainbridge9107]

Brothers, yes. Lost, yes. It is up to them to choose whether or not to follow The Way, The Truth and The Life. In other words, they use their own free will to choose humanism.

[@virginiabeaver2823]

Like others that have a belief in some other doctrine, we are to pray for them to come a realization that the true gospel gives freedom.

[@jameshawthorn9274]

Amen

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@phillipbainbridge9107are you saying Calvinists choose humanism?

[@ClintByars]

Calvinists believe if God wants you, he'll give you faith to let him save you, but if he doesn't want you, you'll never receive saving faith, because he created you to go to hell. And you're never sure in this life if he wants you or not. They call it election or limited atonement.

[@Gen_4927]

Excellent, Pastor Mark.

[@robertdelisle7309]

In Calvinism, God regenerates you so that you can believe. Regeneration is prior to faith. The Bible says you are dead in your sins until you put your faith in Jesus.

[@anneyoung2310]

Everything starts and ends with God, His sovereignty is sovereign. I'm a five point Calvinistic charismatic/continualist. It's rare (me & Derek Prince, LOL), and it can tick people off (welcome to my life). I can totally see how Arminianism can be defended by Scripture, just not as overwhelmingly, in my opinion; I never finished seminary (financial ruination), so,...I listen to savvy bible teachers like Pastor Driscoll. I can coexist with Arminian believers, as salvation though Christ alone is the biggest hill.

[@emoure77]

@@anneyoung2310 A non elect could be saying everything you are now, only they're non elect, and don't know it, and they'll always be a non elect because election is "unconditional " and predetermined....so HOW do you know YOU'RE not that person??

[@anneyoung2310]

@@emoure77 Absolutely true. I said nothing about 100% certainty. Wasn't mentioned, but your point is valid.

[@emoure77]

@anneyoung2310 Yes it is....Calvanism and atheism are refuted the same way...

[@h2s-i9o]

@@emoure77 so the regenerate and unregenerate are no different?

[@emoure77]

@h2s-i9o YES absolutely they are..."bad tree vs good tree", " good fruit vs bad fruit"...however not under Calvinist theology...which is why Calvinists attack Holiness in the life of the believer as a qualifying criteria as to WHO the elect are. Which is why most Calvinists go to great lengths to defend SIN. It COMPLETELY UNDERMINES the "U" in T.U.L.I.P...True saving faith indeed has evidence...

[@BlaspheBeast]

Excellent.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

I learned this year that TULIP was actually developed after Calvin's death. Anyone trying to stay "no Calvinists" based on this is misled. We need another word for post- or neo-calvinists

[@emoure77]

reformed

[@Bob_the_Believer]

Sovereign grace is how I refer to myself. Don’t know Calvin didn’t read his stuff. God began or started a good work in me, God will complete it.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

@@Bob_the_Believer Yeah, we're not meant to get too caught up in these things. It causes sectarianism which is a sin (1 Cor 10 and somewhere in the teens?). The explanation doesn't change whether we're saved or who we can help save. Our actions should be the same regardless

[@HaunaLee]

I agree with some of the other comments. This video really does not talk at all about "What Calvinists Actually Believe" so it is misleading. As to the topic, I agree that we are all born with a sin nature and we all commit sin. The part that I don't agree with is that EVERYTHING we do is motivated by what's in it for me. There are lots of things I do for others where I have nothing to gain at all. For example, I open doors for strangers, I let strangers merge onto the freeway instead of cutting them off. As much as possible, I practice the "Golden Rule" and do for others what I would like for them to do for me without any thought of what I will gain by doing so. That is not to say that I am a "good" person. I just think that it is possible for people to do things for others without thinking about what they will gain from it. I will borrow a quote from Abraham Lincoln and modify it: All of the people do sinful things some of the time, some of the people do sinful things all of the time, but not all of the people do sinful things all of the time. I am not suggesting that any of us can "earn" our way to heaven. I just don't think that every person who ever lived or is living now is totally and utterly depraved and ONLY do nice things for other people when they can gain from it somehow. Like I mentioned, I do nice things for other people all the time when I gain nothing at all from it. I hope there are other people who do the same.

[@johntrevett2944]

Based on quite a few dialogues/debates, my best guess is that many people so strongly oppose Calvinism because they hate the idea that they are not in control. They despise the idea that their faith was predestined. They loathe the concept that God choosing them had anything to do with them coming to Christ for salvation. Simply put, they want to think that they are fully in control of their own eternal destiny. They chose to receive Christ as Savior. And for many, they adamantly hold onto the idea that they can also choose to reject Christ as Savior after previously trusting in Him for salvation. What Calvinism haters do not understand, or refuse to accept, is that God's absolute sovereignty does not negate the fact that we are still absolutely responsible for our actions. Yes, God elects people to salvation (Romans 8:29-30). At the same time, we must believe in Christ to be saved (John 3:16). The two are not mutually exclusive. Both are true. Everyone whom God has chosen will believe, and everyone who believes is chosen by God. Admitting that you cannot perfectly understand the mind of God is the only way to come to a biblical balance on this issue (Romans 11:33-34). Calvinists do not have a perfect understanding of how things work, but there is no denying, biblically speaking, that God is absolutely sovereign in salvation.

[@JRtheBoss7]

No. It’s because it makes God the creator of evil, the tempter. He made mankind knowing that they would fall into sin, and made it impossible for them to repent without Him forcing them to. So people have no chance or choice, but to go to hell. Does that sound like the God of the Bible? Christ cannot do anything unless He sees the Father do it, and Christ gave up some of His sovereign power when He humbled himself to come as His creation. So that means the Father has given up some of His sovereign power, by allowing mankind to have free will. There is no boasting in faith according to Romans, He does all the work to draw us in, and if we believe, to make us clean. The Bible tells us works and faith are different over and over, we still have no reason to boast. Bless you brother.

[@lindylong899]

@@JRtheBoss7 Excellent. Except I would disagree that God had to give up ANY sovereignty to allow creaturely free will. Sovereignty doesn't mean absolute control in any definition. It simply means that God is in control of all things as king is in charge of a nation. Creaturely libertarian free will is perfectly compatible with God's sovereignty. I love C.S. Lewis quote on this..." “God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong, but I can't. If a thing is free to be good it's also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata -of creatures that worked like machines - would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they've got to be free. Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently, He thought it worth the risk. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will -that is, for making an actual world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings - then we may take it it is worth paying.” ― C.S. Lewis, The Case for Christianity

[@xyberfunk]

The only free will man has is the freedom to SIN against God

[@JRtheBoss7]

@@xyberfunk so He made man unable to choose anything but sin and punishes them for not choosing otherwise?

[@lindylong899]

@@JRtheBoss7 Calvinists don't like to talk about the flipside of the predestination coin. Taken to it's logical conclusion, it makes God the determiner of most people spending eternity in Hell for something Adam did waaaaaay before they were born. It's like a scenario where a group of say 5 young men are brought before a judge for a murder that each of their great great great grandfathers fully participated in. The judge throws the book at 4 of them and sentences them to death. The 5th one he decides to set free for reasons known only to him and erases any record of wrongdoing. Is that justice? That's really what they think God does, but it's even worse, because it isn't temporal, it's eternal.

[@outlawforchrist302]

I am not a bible scholar, but i do have a lot of faith. Some may disagree with my comment and that is ok. I see so much arguing with calvinists churches and doctrine being good and it being bad. I am going to a new church that is southern baptist , and i havent had time to talk to the pastor about their beliefs yet. Going to church 1 hr. a week is not going to give you salvation. That is the tip of the ice berg. You have to love god and jesus and have a relationship with them thru prayer, and try hard to live a good christian life.

[@Farehaven]

Roman’s 3:10 is talking about non believers.

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[@3BadBostons]

If "there is none righteous , no, not one" can someone explain Noah, Abraham, Job, David ,Josiah, etc.

[@lynnchelewski2965]

I don't like it when the title of an abbreviated message describes one thing but it's not even addressed in the message. This in itself is dishonest. The content of this message was good, but it had nothing to do with defining Calvanism, which I assume was covered in the optional full message. I've seen this before, and I would call it "click bait". Too many of these and I won't follow, sorry.

[@dananderson6992]

You can see written on the slide above the verse that he is covering Total Depravity the “first” of the 5 points of Calvinism

[@FabledNarrative]

Good video.

[@nozrep]

i dunno if their behind the scenes people read comments but i’d like to request them to start putting the link to whole sermon into the description. i mean, i like the clips, but i am hoping for it to be easier than having to click over to the main channel page and go scrolling through to find the sermon. again i appreciate the clips too.

[@angloaust1575]

It's all from scripture Interpretations differ Obviously Always have since the reformation.period People can't accept that God is sovereign Not the pope or the preacher

[@HonorGod-MakeDisciples.]

The duplicitous doctrine of Calvinism.

[@curtiscataline1873]

The title is compatible with the title. He is teaching the same things Calvin taught on this passage.

[@betterthanlife499]

Amen 🙏

[@woewoewoe2262]

You may think of yourself in relation to other people in our society today as a decent person, a morally upstanding person. But the problem with that thinking is, on the day of judgment, you won’t be compared to other people, you will be compared to a righteous, perfect, holy God. If you don’t have Jesus on your side as your mediator in the court of heaven on the day of judgment, you will find yourself alone standing before the great white throne in heaven and you will be contrasted and compared to a righteous and perfect and holy God, a God who is a consuming fire. And in His presence, in the presence of your Maker, you will realize how pitiful and sinful and painstakingly flawed you have been in your life because you will see yourself contrasted and compared with a holy and righteous and perfect God. When contrasted against God’s perfection and holiness and righteousness, your sins and faults and shortcomings will be unavoidable, agonizingly displayed and magnified in unbearable, glaringly high-definition detail when the gavel sounds at the great white throne in heaven and the books of judgment are opened and your life is examined and judged by your Maker, who is a consuming, devouring fire. Consider the Hebrew prophet Isaiah who, undoubtedly, was a righteous, pious man. But when Isaiah saw God in heaven, he immediately became aware of his unrighteousness and he became undone. Before God, no one is righteous. What we here on earth think of as righteousness is nothing but filthy rags to God: “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;” ---Isaiah 64:6 So on the day of judgment, there you will be standing at the great white throne in heaven before your Maker without an atoning sacrifice for your sins. And when you are confronted with the more than overwhelming situation of having the books of judgment opened and judgment commencing before Almighty God, your Maker, a consuming, devouring fire, an eternally raging inferno, all strength will leave your body. You will drop to the ground, trembling in fear before your Maker and His fierce wrath. You will be paralyzed in fear, unable to utter a sound in your defense as your life plays out in the heavenly court of judgment. It will just be you alone at the great white throne in heaven before your Maker, not you and your religion, not you and your philosophy, but just you and a perfect, righteous, holy God. And you will have to give an account of every idle word you have ever spoken in your life. Every thought and every motive in your life will be examined by God. No stone will be left unturned. And when your whole life is played out before you in the court of heaven contrasted against a righteous and perfect and holy God, you will know just how pitiful and sinful you have been and any good you might have done is but filthy rags before the consuming fire which is our Maker. And the angels of the LORD will search for your name in the book of life and if they do not find it, you will be thrown into the lake of fire to burn for all eternity, day and night, night and day, forever and ever, without even one iota of relief from your torment, ever (REV 20:15). But here is the Good News of the Gospel message: all those who call on the name of Jesus on this side of the Second Coming, all those who belong to Jesus, will pass from judgment straight away into eternal life on the day of judgment. That is, while we who belong to Jesus will be judged for our rewards (or lack thereof), we will not however, be subject to the books of judgment at the great white throne on the day of judgment to see if our names are written in the book of life. Those who belong to Jesus will not come under the agonizingly uncomfortable, unbearable, all-knowing, all-seeing, searing witness of judgment at the great white throne before the all-seeing seven eyes of God ( ZECH 3:9, 4:10, REV 5:6). We will not have to watch our lives played out in the court of heaven and be made painfully aware of all our shortcomings and flaws. Instead, we will bypass the great white throne judgment and enter straight away into eternal life in the kingdom of God because our names are already written in the book of life, for all our sins have already been paid for, atoned for, by the precious blood of the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world! Hallelujah! Thank you Jesus! Because of the precious blood of the Lamb, we who believe have already made peace with our Father who art in heaven, who is a consuming fire. Our names are already written in the book of life and so we will not be subject to the books of judgment at the great white throne on the day of judgment. Because of the joy set before Him (joy that He will share with all those that belong to Him), Jesus bore the shame and punishment for the sins of all mankind and was faithful to the Father and went to the cross and so therefore, Jesus became a sacrifice acceptable to God for the sins of mankind. No other name has been given under heaven that men might be saved. So hear thee the Good News of the Gospel message: basically, for all intents and purposes, when you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and make Jesus the Lord of your life, the blood of Jesus is the sacrifice that washes away all your sins and the perfection and righteousness and holiness of Jesus Christ is imputed unto you who believe. When you initially accept Jesus into your heart, the slate is wiped clean and you are made new. And then in your journey to the holy mount of Zion, along the way, if you confess your sins to God, God will be faithful to cleanse you from all unrighteousness. If you say that you have no sin, you deceive yourself and the truth is not in you. When you become a new creation in Jesus, you must learn to put off the old man and put on the new man. You must deny your flesh and walk after the Spirit. When you do that-when you walk after the Spirit-you will be walking in the light, hanging onto Jesus. If you hang onto Jesus for your entire journey, if you endure all the way unto the end, maintaining your faith and hope in what Jesus will do for you when He returns, then when Jesus does return, the perfection and righteousness and holiness of Jesus Christ will be imputed unto you in your brand new, incorruptible, immortal body. And so therefore, on the day of judgment, you will be able to stand in the presence of God, who is a consuming fire, without being burned in the consuming fire. And you will dwell in the new Jerusalem and rule and reign with Jesus in the kingdom of God for all time to come. The moral of the story is your religion or your lack of religion or your philosophy won’t do you one iota of good on the day of judgment. If you want to enter into fellowship with God, if you want to be able to stand in the presence of God on the day of judgment without being consumed in the devouring fire that is the fullness of God’s wrath, then do not proceed to judgment day without Jesus.

[@HD-vy4vz]

Very good gospel message, thank you, and Praise God....

[@woewoewoe2262]

@@HD-vy4vz Thank you for your kind words. God bless.

[@Mannyarruda-d6i]

What does Calvinism have to do with what he’s preaching?

[@Str8Ripper1776]

Nothing

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

​@@Str8Ripper1776you're in a lot of comments spreading falsehoods. Hopefully just through accident and being misinformed by someone else

[@Joy-fv8id]

Because this is what we believe. I've never read Calvin, but I'm labeled a Calvinist because of the soteriology I subscribe to.

[@Mannyarruda-d6i]

I’m not a Calvinist, but I do know Calvinism is a believe that we are all predestined to go to heaven or hell, regardless of what we do here on earth But again what he was preaching had nothing to do with Calvinism

[@Str8Ripper1776]

@@VndNvwYvvSvv not a falsehood. You are saved by faith and belief of Yeshua Hamashiach. Anyone can be saved not just a certain group goes to heaven.

[@neilstephen2282]

I REALLY wanted to know what Calvinism believes.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

What do you wanna know?

[@Mattithias]

My channel. Predestination.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@Mattithias you seriously calling it a satanic doctrine? Why would you call it satanic?

[@caseylee1553]

@@chriscrutchley2169ummmm because it is

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@caseylee1553 explain how it is. This issue is debated among Christians. This is not an essential doctrine. It’s an in house debate between Christians.

[@soteriology400]

We have no control over the spirit, that is what calvinists believe. John 3:8.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

You have control over the Holy Spirit?

[@jenniferupshaw4698]

Its called foreknowledge yes God chooses and yes we have free will but he has the foreknowledge of knowing who will accept him and who wont

[@chriscrutchley2169]

So God’s will is determined by what we will do?

[@emilclark645]

I couldn't have said better myself, you're exactly right!!!

[@emilclark645]

​@@chriscrutchley2169Do you believe in free will?

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@emilclark645 depends what you mean by free will. Not a libertarian free will. But we do have a will and we do freely choose. I believe all 5 points of Calvinism

[@emilclark645]

@@chriscrutchley2169 Calvinism does not believe in free will, they believe that God predetermined every thought, word and deed for you, that's very scary. So are you telling me that God caused or predetermined a person to be a child molester?

[@zanelowrey7871]

So far I like Calvinism but not Cessationist doctrine. I do believe one can “lose” their salvation. Once Saved yes! Once Apostate lost yes!

[@maxstrange7606]

An Apostate was never saved. God never loses any that Christ has won.

[@WilliamPotting]

Funny how heresies are always named after their founders. Montanism, Nestorianism, Arianism, Calvinism.

[@daltonnelson94]

Calvanism is false. God predetmined that whoever believed in Him would be saved and whoever rejected Him would perish. God does not predetermine who would believe. Yes, man is totally depraved and unable to save himself. But Jesus endured the cross to redeem us. God offers the gift of salvation to all people.

[@ramlin35]

Why are we still payign attention to anything from Driscoll? He disqualified himself years ago. He also never repented of any of his sins.

[@Farehaven]

I don’t remember Jesus going around telling people they weren’t good. This preacher is bad because he peaches the satanic once saved always saved. You have to strive to enter heaven, together with God we are good. Jesus taught us how to do good.

[@markdavies8381]

Oh yes He did, just remember the rich young ruler coming to Jesus and saying “good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus replied “Why do you call me good for there is only one who is good and that is God.” Therefore since God is only good by default Jesus is stating all others fall short of goodness, hence they are evil, infected with sin as Driscoll is saying.

[@Citizensoldier85-ik6er]

Amen!👏🏻👏🏻❤️‍🔥

[@andrewtsousis3130]

Calvinisim says God will do everything in salvation including giving you belief. God says He wants us to believe. So which is it? Both can’t be right, one is completely wrong which means there must be consequences.

[@JoyCardenas-t8d]

Well this was annoying! This clip was entitled What Calvinists believe, but I didn't hear one word about Calvinists in the whole clip?? It was only about 9:40 minutes long, so maybe there is a longer version where he actually talks about the Calvinist topic?? 🤷‍♀️

[@rapturecalculator]

I agree.

[@rapturecalculator]

@@JoyCardenas-t8d God knew this wouldn't have anything about Calvinists. 🤣

[@rapturecalculator]

@@JoyCardenas-t8d the reason it didn't have anything about Calvinists is because a Calvinist doesn't even know they're a Calvinist these days.

[@ryanp8159]

He was unpacking the doctrine of Total Depravity, the "T" in the Calvinist's T.U.L.I.P.

[@rapturecalculator]

@@ryanp8159 Hmm. You are correct. Tell me. Was he preaching in support of Calvinism or against it? I thought he 'was' a Calvinist... not still a Calvinist. Does he support the doctrine of total depravity? That's Calvinism.

[@scherfcom]

Most certainly God was/is seeking us so we would accept Jesus Christ as personal Savior, "The Son of Man came to find [seek out] lost people and save them.” (Luke 19:10, EXB); HE even enlightened us so that we may recognize Him, "There it was-the true Light [the genuine, perfect, steadfast Light] which, coming into the world, enlightens everyone." (John 1:9, AMP); And God revealed Himself sufficiently to everyone so that every person can choose to worship Him and then by hearing the Gospel get saved and get regenerated through the Holy Spirit at that very moment of placing faith in Christ as personal Savior, "For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through His workmanship [all His creation, the wonderful things that He has made], so that they [who fail to believe and trust in Him] are without excuse and without defense." (Romans 1:20, AMP).

[@lola-BBD]

I like your jacket, do you drink solarized water? -Eric

[@garethifan1034]

Answer - 'The Bible'.

[@Joy-fv8id]

God is the one who seeks us. We were in our house when he came to the door and knocked.

[@erikmeissner6492]

Yes, but the Bible repeatedly tells us to seek God and that the one who does is rewarded. I think the reality is that he wants all to seek Him, but helps/draws those who are willing.

[@jimkraft9445]

@@erikmeissner6492 We have to come to Him. John 12:32. John 6:37. All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and ALL that come to me I will in nowise cast out. It is better that He knows us than that we know Him. Matthew 7:21-23. Only those who have done the will of His Father are saved. John 6:40, and John 6:29.Those that are trusting in their own works are told, depart from me, I NEVER KNEW YOU. Not I did know you and now I don't, I NEVER KNEW YOU. He knows us because we have His Spirit in us. Ephesians 1:13-14. Romans 8:9. Without the Spirit there is no salvation. John 3:18. First John 5:13.

[@TheodoraB-t5t]

OUR NATURE'S NEED A RECONSTRUCTION

[@flavadave3943]

Ok? Was that just click bait?

[@robertborum4045]

Ironic part is that Mark denied biblical cosmology because of his education and he lets his mind overcome what the Bible says about the firmament and creation. He’s a great preacher but needs to re-evaluate biblical cosmology and creation.

[@antispectral5018]

This video has nothing to do with Calvinism. Still good though. It's crazy how Christians cast others as "good" or "bad" in total dismissiveness of Biblical Jesus vs All.

[@eddiesprain8243]

This does talk about Calvinistic doctrine of total depravity. Calvinists take the sin nature to the extreme saying that even when God draws someone a person doesn’t have the ability to respond positively unless God regenerates that person first. We are weakened by sin to the point that we will choose sin, but we have the ability to see our need, when God draws us, and accept Christ’s call or reject it.

[@keith_hudson]

Kinda just seems like what all biblical Christianity believes. I’m not sure what this has to do with Calvinism…

[@mrupholsteryman]

God didn't call us fearfully and wonderfully made vessels of wrath decreed from prior to creation to be hellbound for eternal conscious torment....love God. My glory is at stake....you understand, right...? Oh wait. I created you to be totally depraved. Again for My Glory This sounds like the one that wants the glory that is due God but is masquerading as an angel of light...and has those that have been enlightened prior to belief...and set apart for his glory while he purposely kept others from even being able to understand....for hell. Cuz He is so loving....

[@maxstrange7606]

Those are philosophical arguments, not Biblical ones. Look at what the Bible says about human nature (anthropology). It is not good at all.

[@mrupholsteryman]

@maxstrange7606 how can anyone really have an absolute Truth even be possible when we start from a trajectory of filthy rags? If we as humans are told that are works are like dirty rags if we have no faith....and if one can claim faith and have no works....it is dead. How can any human even claim anything at all? It is the Holy Spirit that convicts the sinner of sin....but is He sent on a wild goose chase til God flips the switch and GIVES faith to the one that cannot know what it is and can't reject it? The whole system when looked at when taking all of God's Word...Scripture interpret Scripture.... makes God a goof ball that must have forgotten who He has given faith to while He seeks those that worship Him in fear and truth...

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

always remember what john calvin did to the christian martyr michael servatus

[@maxstrange7606]

That does not invalidate his whole life and you need to research that story in its totality.

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

@@maxstrange7606 never forget what the catholic church did to the christian martyrs

[@hectic3036]

You're a liar and slanderer and you should repent of this sin. Calvin was a theological expert witness, not judge, jury or executioner. He merely showed the court that the teaching of Servetus was a classical heresy, namely, denying the deity of Christ.

[@BibleBreakout]

@@maxstrange7606 I agree, but by modern day standards that would make him unfit for the pulpit.

[@deniseshively3252]

There was zero information about Calvinism in this clip.

[@jimkraft9445]

Romans 6:23. For the penalty for sin is death, (physical death) but (the good news) the GIFT of God is eternal life. Not faith or a reward for good behavior, but a free gift. The gospel we believe. First Corinthians 15:1-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. Ephesians 1;13-14. Sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise when we believe that gospel of our own free will. John 10:28-29. And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Hebrews 13:5. Romans 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but BELIEVETH on Him that JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His perfect righteousness. Romans 4:6-8. Romans 3:26-28. For He is the JUST and the JUSTIFIER of them that BELIEVE in Jesus. Where is boasting then? Faith is not a work. Faith apart from works. Christ died for everyone. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. Romans 11:6. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to EVERYONE THAT BELIEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Galatians 1:6-9. Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you, than that we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. Salvation by works is an accursed gospel. Only one gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4. John 3:18. John 3:36 KJV only. Romans 5:19-21. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. John 3:18. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we are DECEIVED and the TRUTH is not in us.

[@jludwig2764]

♥️🙏

[@Apexlegend-j2o]

Wawa

[@joeylitz7444]

⚔️🛡✝️

[@brianmeyer5616]

That was not very in depth in relation to the heading.

[@erikmeissner6492]

Ok, so, is Mark a Calvinist or not? The controversy around ‘total depravity’ is usually framed incorrectly. Non-Calvinists would affirm 100% of what Mark said. It would be better termed as ‘total inability.’ The difference is that Calvinists believe that God chooses for the elect to choose Him. The non-Calvinist believes that God helps people choose Him. You can still have a biblically accurate view of man (that he’s wretchedly sinful as described), but not believe that it requires unilateral action by God with no participation from the sinner.

[@jamiejay7633]

These issues don't have to be answered to move forward in Christ and they really cannot be answered.

[@fanman8102]

@@jamiejay7633- that is an excellent answer!

[@fanman8102]

My answer to these questions is always, what does the Bible say. The Bible, God’s Word, says we are totally depraved. The Bible also says that it is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin, so it is God initiated. All are called but few are chosen. Either a person repents or they don’t. To me the process of salvation is like the Doctrine of the Trinity. We say we know but we really don’t understand God. It’s only how we try to explain him. There’s no real understanding there.

[@h2s-i9o]

Depravity is your nature inability is your blindness in sin they both are part of the slavery to flesh

[@stanlopez143]

the Calvinist believes in penal substitutionary atonement theory, that is their big problem.

[@Farehaven]

This guy is casting stones. Baptists don’t interpret the Bible correctly. You have to obey Jesus once being saved to have eternal salvation. Hebrews 5.9

[@BobbyCarby]

I'm guessing what you taught here was what Calvinists believe? Well, I agree with this teaching but know for certain that I'm not a Calvinist. So, just a bit confused.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

What are you confused about

[@honestchristianity936]

Notice how little Driscoll spoke from scripture here. Teaching from an analogy with no rooting in the Bible. We are still created in the image of God which means we are still good. However we are not all good to gain access to an all holy God, and thus we need Christ. When calvinists use proof texts to evidence total depravity, they fail to understand the context that these verses are speaking to. That is what it takes to have an eternity with God, not the entirety of our being. Steer well clear of calvinism folks.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

Give me an example of something we proof text and then try refuting it in context

[@honestchristianity936]

@@chriscrutchley2169 youtube comment field is not the best place for that but I can refute any prooftext that calvinists use by placing it into any context. I would encourage you to look at the teachers of Steve Gregg, Leighton Flowers, Jerry Walls, Ben Witherington 3, William Lane Craig, and many others if you haven’t already.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@honestchristianity936 I’m very aware of both sides and all those guys. I’m not looking for an education right now. Im here to put an end to your position.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@honestchristianity936 I can refute any proof text you use

[@andrewtsousis3130]

Of course we are sinners by nature. No where in scripture does it say someone can only believe if God grants them belief. Of course the Holy Spirit convicts of sin after the gospel is preached. It is up to the individual to either repent and accept Christ or harden their heart and not accept Christ. The problem with Calvinism is it says that choice is not a choice, God has already chosen the elect and they will respond and believe because he makes them. This whole premise of Calvinism is literally anti gospel, it is designed to remove man’s requirement to humble himself and come to Christ. No where does the Bible say we are so depraved that we cannot understand spiritual things. It says the opposite , we are made in Gods image, we have eternity in our hearts, this does not make us righteous because of sin, but we all have a choice when the Holy Spirit knocks on our heart.

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

In 2020 I asked God in absolute faith about Revelation 17:10-11 and was answered. Obama is the 8th He will do Daniel 11:21 and on because it is him. Because of what happened in 2020 saying what would happen to my mum and dad with words that where not my own that they would not last the 1st lockdown and then have it happen because I had things like this happen all my life I was in a place of brokenness and had a contrite heart and asked about Revelation 17:10-11 the Holy Spirit answered and gave the understanding that this was the same as Daniel 11:19-21. Long story short Obama will use what happens to Biden to get back in power. This is not my opinion my thought where not this but I put self to the side and asked in faith like we are told to do and I received to my shock. If you have a waring you must warn. There is no pride in this I don't get pleasure out of this but when you where warned what is coming you must warn. For the full post to be said I need a comment under this YuTB is stopping my post I am on my 3rd chan warning for over two years. My old initial post is geeing hid so I had to say things differently for this to be seen again.

[@jasondawdy5524]

@@lindsaymarksmith2677 not hidden.

[@petrosorr]

@0:23 Drsicoll refers to the water as "...clean, pure, holy." "Holy" is not a synonym for "clean and pure"; it means "set apart", "unique", or "specific". It gets confused with meaning "pure" because God is often referred to as holy. But other things are also referred to as "holy", such as the people of Israel, parts of the tabernacle, or the ground around the burning bush. You would not sustitutionally say that those things are pure. Get that correlation out of your head.

[@BlaspheBeast]

You're not correcting anyone or anything. You're only exposing that you didn't pay attention or were unable to do so.

[@Must_not_say_that]

We do not inherit sin. That is actually impossible since sin describes an action or intention. Nowhere in the Bible does it say we have inherited sin. What it does say is death passed to us. It also says that death reigns over those who have not sinned further emphasising that sin is not inherited. Such slack, careless talk, distorting the Bible and the truth. Not therefore someone who can be trusted.

[@mhowell343]

Clickbait. Got me tho! Wasn’t aware you were a Calvinist under Robert Morris who is anything but… that being said, I am not of Calvin, of Paul or Apollos… I am Christian and agree with pretty much everything in this video but the misleading title. Way to get a view. I know you’re smart, well spoken and well studied… I happen to disagree with a lot of people just like you and so did Jesus. I desire, however, to agree with you where you line up with the accurate understanding and teaching of the Word of God. There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof is death. Though hand go in hand, the wicked will not go unpunished. It doesn’t matter how many people you get to agree with you… it doesn’t make you right. And that goes for every one of us.

[@jaymichael91]

Don't see people as they are, see them as they could be.

[@briankearn6991]

Almost. People are to be loved, not judged. See people as Jesus sees them.

[@jaymichael91]

@@briankearn6991 that what I said.

[@JohnMascola-xr5ds]

Pastor Driscoll, What Denomination do you belong to ?

[@dailytheology1689]

Driscoll is dq'd, check ✔️ out chosen by God.

[@OverdriveGaming-plays]

The Bible doesn’t give us a dictionary with which to define the words that are in the Bible. John Calvin didn’t have a Bible dictionary to define what predestination means. John Calvin made up his own dictionary definition of predestination and his own definitions regarding how God‘s will works, he asserted those other people in them into the Bible. It’s eisegesis biological circles and false teaching in normal people conversation. whether he intended to do so, or not, Calvin created a corruption of the Christian faith, which is essentially syncretistic Christian pantheism. The false view of God‘s will, and level of control of the universe makes God into a Jezebel in order to comfort the fearful Ahab spirit of Calvin, which wanted God to be in control. People want God to be Jezebel in order to control everything and make them “less afraid.” People put Calvin’s personal spin on the Bible and his scribbled commentaries equal to or above the Bible in the same way that other people put Ellen White, Joseph Smith, or other false teachers equal to or above the Bible. Whoever defines the definitions in the Bible might as well be acting as God. Predestination is one of those words that only shows up once or twice in the Bible and it never gives a definition.Calvinism is based on nothing more than one man’s Bible commentary, written by John Calvin. To comfort the Ahab spirit of Calvin people buy into this idea of total control from God and the wrong idea of God‘s will, and a wrong idea of God‘s “predestination,” and we’re basing it on our own man-made and self-made definitions of what that meansBut you’re buying into an even worse, deeper and more satanic, fear when you embrace these ideas and begin to believe that God is not really absolutely good. Calvin had to call God inscrutable because he was calling God evil but he didn’t wanna say so in a public Christian environment. The Bible says we can taste and see that the Lord is good. The Bible also says that if we delight ourselves in the Lord, he will give us the desires of our heart. These both indicate that God is not inscrutable, but that we can taste with our own taste buds and see that God is good. We don’t have to redefine what goodness is, God is just good. We should stop following Calvin redefining everything in the Christian faith until we’re no longer Christians but following a Calvinistic cultishness which is where this has gone for many people and it keeps leading people in that direction even if you’re not there yet. In fact, Ephesians says that we are predestined, according to the for knowledge of God, which means that God knows in the future what we’re gonna do, even though we have our own free will are choosing it. In other words, it’s the Armenian view. We are not predestined according to God’s control, we are predestined, according to God’s foreknowledge. I know your daughter married a Calvinist, that doesn’t mean that you should sacrifice your conscience and faith in order to avoid offending him! You should be willing to offend your son-in-law if it meant following scripture more closely, Pastor Driscoll! I think there’s something in the book of Ezra about that sort of situation.

[@ryansiemens]

So why did Jesus speak in parables? go ahead - I'll wait...

[@mrupholsteryman]

No one seeks God....vs those who seek God with all their heart will find Him. Context vs the cons text. God so loved the world...and holding those that didn't (couldn't know Him or anything) vs...forgive them Father....they know not what they do.... This is a deceiving doctrine speaking for the One Who is not the Author of confusion.

[@maxstrange7606]

It is not deceiving. Read John 3. You are stuck like Nicodemus was stuck. Jesus said, "How can I speak to you of heavenly things...?" Salvation and most all the major doctrines in the Bible have a heavenly perspective and an earthly one. They are not contradictory but rather paradoxes. Both are true. No one seeks God but the one who seeks with all His heart is the one whom God is drawing to do so. The act is proof that one has been acted upon. For God so loved the world but how? That He sent His Son. His love was done by sending His Son. Whosoever, as John 3:7-9 describes, is the one whom the Spirit makes to be born again. Two sides to salvation. It may be confusing because of 1 Corinthians 2. Do you have the mind of Christ?

[@mrupholsteryman]

@maxstrange7606 the mind of Christ is to seek the lost and coming as He did...not to condemn the world..but to save it. But Calvinism edits God's love only to a few that were predetermined and one is then prejudged by folks not having all the evidence that God has... Are we then going to make God guilty of causing little children to not come unless they have "'experienced" a calling FIRST especially when the Calvinism position states the carnal mind cannot interpret the spiritual. They are body guarding God's glory like they are gonna get a "well done, good and faithful servant" for keeping those I'd rather not see destroyed as God takes no joy in the destruction of the wicked...but hey. If we all start from a place of total depravity...it sure does make the lottery sound good to the person that doesn't feel they have to do anything cuz God pulled them up and they couldn't refuse it if they wanted... On the other side...like the prodigal son...he could just keep going on the path cuz even though he repented and chose to seek the father and to recognize the error of his ways and would humbly accept being a slave as opposed to a child that told his dad his inheritance is all he wanted.....this guy would NEVER have the chance to be restored...the Bible speaks of even branches that can be grafted back in. And even Peter was brought back even after denying Jesus (even AFTER being revealed by the Father Who Jesus is) Calvinism just turns people into predetermined judges whose father is not the God of the Bible but the one that masquerades as an angel of light that covets God's glory and has his followers doing the same.

[@dkjazzz]

This guys an apostate 😈

[@craigfield9037]

Calvinism is not true. I will not disparage my Christian brothers who believe it. I will not question their salvation over it. I know many of them desperately desire to reach others for Christ. But the doctrine is scripturally wrong and has real life issues that paint God as a moral monster. I would recommend everyone go to: A Shot Of Wisdom And watch the series there. It doesn’t speak of Calvinism directly, but the concepts and fundaments of Christianity are properly defined.

[@phillipbainbridge9107]

The mad Calvinists in the comments, using their own free will to choose humanism.

[@maxstrange7606]

Man is bound by sin, Satan, and his own flesh. The Scripture confines man and his will to being a slave to unrighteousness. John 1:12 clearly says man cannot be born again of his own will. It is clear. John 3 later tells us how we are saved, "Born from ABOVE."

[@stinkyfinn6977]

Keep up with the false video titles and i will be unsubscribeing ive no time for lies in any form

[@TheDonnylee]

I missed something. Was this just click bate.?

[@stephenwade6957]

If you start with “the winners and losers are already determined,” you end up with “I can live completely in opposition to Gods Word and still go to Heaven.”

[@morganclare4704]

Or not.

[@Prognosis__]

Read James

[@dylanmilks]

That is not at all true. Because any good deed that you do is a gift from God, it's not of yourself - not of your own doing. The only good that man is capable of doing is whatever God has empowered and enabled them to do. Is there any good in man, apart from God?

[@TradeFaithMin]

A true regenerated person wouldn't go against God. That's not to mean "won't sin" just means they won't fall away

[@fanman8102]

Yep but you see the answers here. Calvinism is the quintessential “have it both ways” doctrine.

[@danieldavidgt]

I believe in limited free will. We have a free will yes, because we make decisions everyday. But if there were full free will, you would be able to choose to leave Heaven once you got there, which we all know is not possible. It was possible for Lucifer, but there is no basis for humans leaving or getting kicked out of Heaven.

[@craigbradshaw5902]

Correctamumdo and round and round we go

[@Str8Ripper1776]

@@danieldavidgt once your are saved and get to heaven your fleshly nature is no more so your will to turn against God will not be with you in heaven.

[@Robbie-vu6pl]

Calvinism teachers that God chooses who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven which is not biblically correct... If God is God, why did he let Satan come into the Garden? because God would be an unfair God if he gave us free choice, but then no choices so what choice did they have? God spoke to them, and if they didn’t hear anything else but God, what’s the point of free choice? That’s why he let the serpent in God says something, the serpent says something else, and they believe the serpent and choose to disobey God because God is Holy, they had to separate from God in sin and ever since there’s been a war and the war one day will end when every single person on the planet hears about Jesus has the same opportunity as Adam and Eve. The insanity of Calvinism is clearly told by RC. Sproul on answering a question on predestination, in short “…That God positively decrees and determines in advance those whom he will save namely the elect and in the same method he decrees the damnation of the sinner and that just as on the one hand he creates positively saving faith in the hearts of the elect he in an equally determined fashion creates fresh EVIL in the hearts of the reprobate to make sure they don’t come to BELIEVE “ James 1:13 Jeremiah 7:30-31 - “‘The people of Judah have DONE EVIL in my eyes, declares the Lord. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled it. They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire-SOMETHING I DID NOT COMMAND, NOR DID IT ENTER MY MIND. James 1:13 “Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one”. Genesis 6:6 debunks Calvinism's false teaching that He "predestined" everything including the fall of man, sin, and evil. Calvinists also believe that God created man and then INTENTIONALLY predestined his fall and predestined sin and evil. If that is true, then it makes no logical sense for God to feel regret and be deeply troubled afterwards. Hence, the errant belief that God predestined the fall of man is debunked and blown out of the water. Genesis 6:6 - The Lord REGRETTED that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was DEEPLY TROUBLED. If YOU create something and then intentionally engineer it for FAILURE, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE FEELING REGRET AND BE TROUBLED AFTERWARDS. Jeremiah 7:30-31 - “‘The people of Judah have DONE EVIL in my eyes, declares the Lord. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled it. They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire-SOMETHING I DID NOT COMMAND, NOR DID IT ENTER MY MIND The Bible teaches John 3:16, NOT "John Calvin 3:16".

[@drago987]

Does God know all things and knows what will happen in the future? If not then how can you be certain that his plans will work? If God knows all things and what choices we’ll make in the future then do we really have the freewill to choose? IE - If Jesus knew Judas would betray him and that Peter would deny him 3 times then did Judas and Peter really have the ability to make a different choice and prove God wrong? Yes we have freewill in the sense that our decisions matter and have consequences. But no we do not have freewill that moves outside of God’s knowledge and control.

[@Robbie-vu6pl]

@@drago987 Yes he does, past, present and future

[@drago987]

@@Robbie-vu6pl God knowing the future means all has been predetermined. You can’t make a different choice from the one that God already knows that you will make. (See above example).

[@hectic3036]

It's a very good synopsis of the 'T' of TULIP.

[@peacengrease3901]

Error. They believe error. Signed: a Former Calvinist. Watch Leighton Flowrrs on Soteriology 101.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

That guy is awful and is obsessed with Calvinism

[@JRtheBoss7]

@@chriscrutchley2169because it wrongly goes against the perfect attributes of God, and can make evangelism and apologetics push people away from the gospel for reasons that shouldn’t be an issue. Leighton Flowers teaches biblical truth.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@JRtheBoss7 you should go based on scripture and not your feelings. Like what you’re saying about pushing people away from the gospel. It’s irrelevant if you think it pushes people away. What matters is what’s true. Flowers always strawmans Calvinism and he’s obsessed. You never hear the gospel come out of his mouth. All you hear is Calvinism. It’s what he lives for.

[@JRtheBoss7]

@@chriscrutchley2169 My view is entirely because of scripture. I agree whole heartedly. Bless you brother, I have great fellowship with calvinists, my best friend is one. But I do not agree with the interpretation of scripture calvinists adhere to. Check out Leighton Flowers or Mike Winger, it’s all love, you shouldn’t let a teacher change your beliefs, it should be the Bible, but teachers can help you understand the Bible, just make sure to keep things in context.

[@chriscrutchley2169]

@@JRtheBoss7 I know all about them. Mike winger is great. Flowers is weird.

[@cm9244]

You are teaching a heresy and a tradition that is only 500 years old

[@matthewdancz9152]

We are all sinners. God's promisse is that he will forgive us.

[@maxstrange7606]

If we repent and believe on Jesus Christ.

[@OverdriveGaming-plays]

If you use the Bible, the way satan uses the Bible, you might interpret it wrong and use it in an accusatory, condemning way, with a wrongful viewpoint. The Bible says what it says, but you might be using it in the wrong way, Pastor Driscoll. For sure, John Calvin may interpreted this part of scripture in this way because he was a dour, joyless, miserable, miserly, ex catholic, religious, graceless person. You literally spent his entire life being taught lies about the Bible.

[@MichiganDragonSlayer]

turn from this. it is not biblical

[@chriscrutchley2169]

Why do you think it’s not biblical?

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

Trump was Daniel 11:19, Biden is Daniel 11:20, Obama soon will be Daniel 11:21 and on. Revelation 17:10-11 KJV Trump=sixth Biden=seventh Obama=eighth & of the seven the fifth head and the eighth. I keep warning what the Holy Spirit said to me in 2020 after I humbled myself even if it falls on deaf ears. This is not an opinion or interpretation from me it was the Holy Spirit that said this himself after I humbled myself after what happened to my mum and dad in 2020 believing as a child trusting God fully like a child does a parent and that small still voice the Holy Spirit answered me. I need a comment to post it on so it can be seen. Comment for the full post I cant post it 1st or YT will hide it. And now they are hiding some posts that go with it.

[@jasondawdy5524]

It's not hidden this time.

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

@@jasondawdy5524 You think that was the only one I said?

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

@@jasondawdy5524 You think that ever chan is the same?

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

@@jasondawdy5524 Some this will not be seen at all on other it will other post besides this one is hid as well

[@lindsaymarksmith2677]

@@jasondawdy5524 and I check on an other chan to see if post can be seen or not and even if i do rely to this i tell you now part of what I will say will be hid something I cant warn at all no mater what well I can say it on my chan the only place I can say and there is three things I warn that i know is always hid

[@5johnsneed7]

This is funny because Mark Driscoll is a rabid anti-Calvinist. He is hardly the person you want to go to in order to learn what Calvinists "really" believe.