What Could Have Been - 5 Tech Giants That Lost It All

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@shadowninja6689
@shadowninja6689 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe you didn't mention how Xerox had the chance to be first movers in the personal computer space, but they threw it all away because they bought into the hype about the "paper-less office" that this new technology would lead to (which Xerox's upper management didn't want, since they made the bulk of their profits selling paper). Xerox invented things like the computer mouse, etc., and just sat on it. Eventually their tech people got fed up with Xerox trying to stop their products from ever seeing the light of day that they went to work for Steve Jobs and other competitors.
@princemc35
@princemc35 2 ай бұрын
Thats in a diff video
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Yep, have a full video about Xerox :)
@catacocamping874
@catacocamping874 2 ай бұрын
@@LogicallyAnsweredi am lost if they fell how and I using at&t services and at@t bought out bell. When your so good at word salads
@DiamondJim22
@DiamondJim22 Ай бұрын
Xerox did come to market with that, and long before the Apple Macintosh. The Xerox Star was released in 1981 with a graphical user interface, mouse, Ethernet networking and laser printers. But the hardware demands made the system extremely expensive- $16,000 - which is nearly $60,000 in today’s money. At that price there was little market for it. The Macintosh came out 3 years later in 1984. But it too was a market failure for years as it was also too expensive. Ultimately Microsoft Windows won the day by creating a system that was good enough and ran on equipment that was priced at a level people and businesses could afford.
@leoblazer74
@leoblazer74 Ай бұрын
Many consider it the biggest blunder in corporate history. Many agree that they would have easily been the first trillion dollar company.
@Wizznilliam
@Wizznilliam 2 ай бұрын
You could have added Motorola to this too. I worked there for 20 years. They were a HUGE company at the top of SEVERAL technologies in multiple tech sectors, including semiconductors. But somehow management completely screwed it all up and it is now a minor shadow of its former self.
@livingstonantony4135
@livingstonantony4135 2 ай бұрын
It's a great pleasure to meet someone like you. You're a legend for working at one of the biggest tech companies for 20 years. It must have been challenging to leave after such a long time. If you don't mind, I'm curious to know what your role & responsibilities was at Motorola
@uvwxyzero
@uvwxyzero 2 ай бұрын
@@livingstonantony4135He is the voice behind the famous hello motto
@Wizznilliam
@Wizznilliam 2 ай бұрын
@@livingstonantony4135 I was a software engineer. I started in the Satellite Systems and Technologies Group working mostly on military contracts. I didn't work on the project but this was also the division that created the legendary failed Iridium satellite phone. They somehow conveniently sold this entire division to a defense contractor not long before the war in Iraq likely missing out on billions. I then moved and started working on cellular infrastructure tech for them. Namely the Nextel equipment they made the Nextel chirp functionality possible and very popular at the time. Then later I worked on public safety radio tech which Motorola was dominant in for decades.
@Wizznilliam
@Wizznilliam 2 ай бұрын
@@livingstonantony4135 I was a software engineer. I started in the Satellite Systems and Technologies Group working mostly on military contracts. I didn't work on the project but this was also the division that created the legendary failed Iridium satellite phone. They somehow conveniently sold this entire division to a defense contractor not long before the war in Iraq likely missing out on billions. I then moved and started working on cellular infrastructure tech for them. Namely the Nextel equipment they made the Nextel chirp functionality possible and very popular at the time. Then later I worked on public safety radio tech which Motorola was dominant in for decades.
@Wizznilliam
@Wizznilliam 2 ай бұрын
@@livingstonantony4135 I had a much longer response that KZbin won't let me post for some reason. In short, I was a software engineer in multiple different divisions of the company. Including the failed and sold Satellite communications division and the once great military equipment business.
@jonathanwindham1316
@jonathanwindham1316 2 ай бұрын
Xerox also developed the graphical user interface, and mouse, and let it slip through their fingers.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@securityg
@securityg Ай бұрын
It was under XEROX PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). - James D. Watkins, artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
@777jones
@777jones Ай бұрын
They invented the laser printer also.
@robina.jensen6114
@robina.jensen6114 Ай бұрын
They sold the rights to Steve Jobs, that used it for the Apple computer.
@777jones
@777jones Ай бұрын
@@robina.jensen6114 Steve basically stole every idea they had. The lab visit that changed the world.
@yvesgysel9834
@yvesgysel9834 Ай бұрын
You forgot Kodak. They had an excellent R&D department. Some of the best engineers. They invented the "Digital Camera" already in the early 70ies. However, management did not like it at all cause their cash cow was selling filmrols and developing photographs. Kodak is gone now. A real giant in the past. I am still not over it. 😢
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 Ай бұрын
It was 1975 when they developed the first digital camera. it's kind of a myth than concentration on film killed them. Kodak WAS in digital. Hell, Nikon's first digital camera was a Nikon film body with KODAK digital "innards" Kodak was the TOP selling brand of DIGITAL cameras in the 2000s. The REAL problem was they concentrated on the "point and shoot" (snapshot) consumer sector, As they were known for decades for simple, inexpensive cameras. Canon, Nikon, Sony ETC sold these too, BUT they also made higher end "pro" digital cameras. Kodak was STIIL in the consumer digital game until cellphone cameras became better and better. THIS crushed sales of ALL BRANDS of the point and shoot cameras as consumers no longer needed a dedicated camera (Not me= I still use a CAMERA to shoot any thing more "serious" than a snapshot). Most people today don't even OWN a camera other than their phone! Nikon, Canon ETC survived off of their "pro" and "Pro-sumer" models. Sadly Kodak hadn't made any "pro" or serious hobbyist models since their German made "Retina" series of the 1930's -1960s. Kodak is not gone, they still make digital imaging products and YES film! (a surprising amount is 35mm movie film, as there ARE STILL producers and directors who insist on shooting film, even the movie will be digitally distributed) And, yes you can get Kodak film for your "still" camera!
@HarmonyEdge
@HarmonyEdge Ай бұрын
I own a few Kodak disposable batteries and a Keyboard and Mouse set(which are as office basic as Logitech ones), so I guess they dabble a bit in office supply today as well...
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 Ай бұрын
@@HarmonyEdge Not sure if Kodak actually MAKES batteries (They might as they are also a chemical company) However the Mouse and Keyboard are likely using the "Kodak" brand under license. Many old school brands (Like "RCA" and "Westinghouse") are licensed out to third party manufacturers. It's an admittedly low effort profit stream.
@FozzyBBear
@FozzyBBear Ай бұрын
Bell Labs invented the CCD but were forbidden by the courts from commercializing it, so the engineers involved defected to Fairchild. Fairchild made it work in monochrome, then defectors from Fairchild helped Kodak make it work in color. That was the third-generation digital camera, not the first. Unfortunately Kodak was forbidden by the courts to make devices that both took pictures, and also developed them, until 1996. Kodak could not produce digital cameras before 1996, because it was illegal for them to do so before the consent decree was vacated.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 Ай бұрын
@@FozzyBBear 1996 was still damn early in the digital camera market. It's always bugged me that people still believe that Kodak "ignored" digital photography, But THAT's not really true. Kodak was DEFINETLY in the game. They just relied on the "P&S" market because despite being world renowned for their film, most of Kodaks CAMERA sales were of the simple, casual type- and they stuck with THAT market in the digital era. Vastly improving cellphone cameras KILLED that market. The other camera makers (Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Fujifilm ...) fared better due to having "pro" and "prosumer" models. Nontraditional camera makers (Sony, Panasonic) had years of video "cred" to help them along. You can still get a Kodak digital camera (including a pretty decent "bridge" ultra zoom) But these are made by a thirrd party under a brand license.
@ryanspaceYT
@ryanspaceYT 2 ай бұрын
Massive W to all these companies for allowing us to have cellphones, computers and other tech that made our lives better.
@michaelsmith4904
@michaelsmith4904 2 ай бұрын
W?
@brandonvernet
@brandonvernet 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelsmith4904win
@mikemassino
@mikemassino Ай бұрын
@@michaelsmith4904 Win
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Ай бұрын
Is it better?
@JS-jh4cy
@JS-jh4cy Ай бұрын
Or worse
@organfairy
@organfairy Ай бұрын
The Hammond Organ Company has a similar story to Xerox: They forgot to innovate and after making the famous B3 organ in 1954 they fell behind the competition. In the 1970's their organs seemed dated and much too expensive compared to organs from other brands and in 1984 the went bankrupt. The reason we have a Hammond organ today is because they were bought and are now owned by the Suzuki Musical Instrument Corporation - a harmonica maker!
@boptillyouflop
@boptillyouflop Ай бұрын
Oh yeah... The hammond organ needed 9 real gears for every single key on both manuals to work... In 1954 this was revolutionary. In 1983, Yamaha figured out how to time share a single digital sound generating circuit between all keys and all sub-parts of a channel and so could do essentially the same thing with 2 chips, along with selectable and editable tones and keyboard velocity sensing...
@arya_jahan98
@arya_jahan98 2 ай бұрын
WOW... the fact that you talked about Xerox without mentioning how Xerox was sitting on a GOLD MINE known as the first Graphical User Interface aka GUI computer is insane. TLDR: For the Gen-Z, let me explain how it used to be in the past before Xerox's invention. When working with computers, instructions were given to computers in a language that it could understand. So, for example, the action of copy and pasting something meant that it was up to the user to know the exact language / code to make the computer initiate that particular action. Now the user simply right clicks on the item, clicks "copy", goes to where they want to move the item, then right clicks again on "paste" - all done visually and by moving the mouse. Xerox was sitting on this revolutionary way of allowing users to fundamentally change the ease of use and allow the "everyday" person to use the tool which we know as Personal Computer (PC). This is where Steve Jobs came in, saw the massive potential, then took this idea and marketed it as his own / Apple's.
@PaulVandersypen
@PaulVandersypen 2 ай бұрын
Didn't Xerox also invent the mouse? That would make sense, as you need a mouse to use a GUI.
@arya_jahan98
@arya_jahan98 2 ай бұрын
@@PaulVandersypen yes they did - I assumed that was a given; but you’re right as a mouse would be required to interact with the GUI
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Have a full video on Xerox :)
@AI_Image_Master
@AI_Image_Master Ай бұрын
@@PaulVandersypen Xerox basically invented the GUI, the Mouse, The Laser Printer and Ethernet. The did sell a very expensive GUI system before Apple , Amiga and the other early systems, but it was super expensive. The engineers at Xerox left to join Apple and created the Mac. But it was really the creation of the Motorola 68000 that really made the Mac possible.
@zuikoglass4091
@zuikoglass4091 Ай бұрын
As a Xerox employee I was amazed at the amount of energy that went into insuring that my colleagues were only allowed to report positive news to their superiors, even if it was not accurate.
@walterlyzohub8112
@walterlyzohub8112 Ай бұрын
I never studied business management in school but if they do not teach what you are pointing out it’s no wonder how bad things got.
@Shaf_nur
@Shaf_nur 2 ай бұрын
Makes me realize that how poor management leads to lack of innovation and caused the downfall of these companies which were setting industry standards 😢
@kryptonman11
@kryptonman11 2 ай бұрын
what will be the scenario after another half a century - IBM, Volkswagen, Apple ....
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Faang companies will probably become the new IBM and Ciscos of the world. Who knows where ibm and Cisco will be then haha
@lharsay
@lharsay 2 ай бұрын
Apple is more like a brand than a tech company.
@The-Friendly-Grizzly
@The-Friendly-Grizzly 2 ай бұрын
@@lharsay They are a marketing company that sells telephones and computers.
@mahimnatrivedi5449
@mahimnatrivedi5449 2 ай бұрын
Nothing can replace apple, they are really tasty.
@rejugeorge2863
@rejugeorge2863 Ай бұрын
Auto industry (ICE cars)
@keikokenziesirasta7086
@keikokenziesirasta7086 Ай бұрын
Many of us forget that the cellular mobile phone was invented by Motorola from their Israel office.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын
Android uses C++. It's a Linux kernel. BTW, Sun created cloud computing and virtual desktops - way too much ahead of time, though.
@jamescaron6465
@jamescaron6465 Ай бұрын
I alpha tested the Sun virtual desktop and Sun cloud. They were very primitive versions of themselves, but they had incredible potential. I also Alpha tested a built from the ground up version of SunLinux. It was really good except certain powers that be did not like the idea of getting into the Linux space so it got magically killed off.
@julianmartinez3048
@julianmartinez3048 Ай бұрын
Now, for Episode 2: Yahoo!, Nokia, IBM...
@MrEntaroadun
@MrEntaroadun Ай бұрын
IBM?
@kerrywsmyth
@kerrywsmyth Ай бұрын
If you could tell a random person in 1970 that computers were going to take over the world, that person would have put their life savings into IBM, 💯
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor Ай бұрын
another one not mentioned is RCA, once the 3rd largest company in the world with holdings in 90% of all countries, it's fall from grace was sudden and impactful. Once one of the largest electronics innovators, the inventers of the home radio, portable radio, video tape, the 45 RPM vinyl record, color television, and so much more, was forced to sell out to General Electric after a diastorous decade where they lost over 5 billion dollars due to ill conceived development plans, terrible acquisitions, and poor marketing.
@ebinrock
@ebinrock Ай бұрын
And their CED videodisc system pretty much put the last nail in the coffin.
@connerwilliams668
@connerwilliams668 2 ай бұрын
You're basically my new news program that I watch all the time
@Papasot
@Papasot 2 ай бұрын
I really like this type of documentary you made today, keep it up 👍
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the positive feedback Papasot!
@Bryghtpath
@Bryghtpath 2 ай бұрын
Xerox wasn’t just about copiers-they were pioneers of the personal computer and even Ethernet! It’s amazing to think that the tech giants we rely on today were built on Xerox’s innovations.
@kfl611
@kfl611 22 күн бұрын
Great video, very informative. Oh and I want your wonderful hair !
@drewf5885
@drewf5885 22 күн бұрын
Well done. Do another 5 - you have plenty to choose from!
@rhyami
@rhyami 2 ай бұрын
This is a well done video. :-) I would add a Atari, Mozilla, Correll, and Commodore to this list. When Commodore released the Amiga computer in the 80s, it could do things that customers didn't get from windows until the late 90s. Commodore lost its way, even when the Commodore 64 was so incredibly popular with families. It was a shame to see. From the early 80s until the mid 90s, were perfect was present in most offices and schools. When windows 95 came out, the once unbeatable word perfect began to fade away. I never knew why, and I sure would like to.
@AlanEmmons-qw6bg
@AlanEmmons-qw6bg Ай бұрын
But the comadore 64 had no had no memory so you had to write the program with every use. A hard drive would have helped them but hind sight is 20/20.. As usual the executives got rich and lazy and fatter then they needed to be to soon and the fat clogged their brains sad but true.😱. For the employees. And I loved my Atari and Pong and intellavision, my ex worked for Mattel but she didn't repair the consoles they just trashed them 9 cubic yards at a time came in by the truckload went out compacted into plastic cubes! Go figure??
@Danny-bd1ch
@Danny-bd1ch 2 ай бұрын
OH boy, selling 8% bonds. The end is near.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
It’s actually a 4% yielding treasury note paired with an 3% launch deposit bonus promo :)
@acerIOstream
@acerIOstream 2 ай бұрын
That's pretty weak, also a weird sppnsorship.
@rahulsampat8698
@rahulsampat8698 2 ай бұрын
Only for Apple? 😅
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, only iOS right now, but web coming out in Q4 :)
@58Tommy
@58Tommy Ай бұрын
You missed Intel. They once had world class fab and technology. Now they are years behind in fab and can't hit a release date, and others have clearly left them in the technology dust.
@Papasot
@Papasot 2 ай бұрын
5:34 Only one of the editions of Minecraft is written on Java, this is the original one and it only runs on computers. All other devices run Minecraft Bedrock edition which is written in C++.
@projection-75-emulation
@projection-75-emulation Ай бұрын
technically Java Minecraft can run on ARM android phones using PojavLauncher
@WillPower311
@WillPower311 Ай бұрын
Cuz none of them were anything without the people. It wasn't the companies that did this it was the people that work there. Don't buy the corporate illusion
@xraymind
@xraymind 2 ай бұрын
SGI wanted to make high end graphic workstations. Their engineers wanted to make consumer graphic chip. So the engineers founded Nvidia and ArtX, which was bought by ATI and then AMD. SGI could have owned the graphic chip business.
@katout75
@katout75 Ай бұрын
None of the Nvidia founders came from SGI. They came from LSI Logic, Sun Microsystems, HP, and AMD.
@boptillyouflop
@boptillyouflop Ай бұрын
Everything that made SGI competitive was solved by PC makers basically between the start and the end of 1995: - Very fast 3d rendering: 3dfx Voodoo (November 1995, with ex-SGI employees no less) - Very fast CPU: Pentium Pro (November 1995, reorder operations, eliminates stalls, catches up with RISC CPU) - OS that can deal with large applications: Windows 95 (July 1995, solved tons of horrific flaws in DOS & Windows 3.1) Their last advantage, aside from big heavily clustered servers/supercomputers, was hardware geometry processing, but they also lost that with the launch of the NVidia GeForce in 1999.
@sloo6425
@sloo6425 2 ай бұрын
Thing was, Xerox could have been bigger than IBM, Apple and Microsoft if they knew about what they had with the Mouse and the GUI and had the inkling of what Steve and the guys were doing. I know Kodak is not an IT giant but other than that, also a big fall from grace.
@MukiBlalock
@MukiBlalock 29 күн бұрын
Imagine how much further we'd be along technologically had these companies made different choices.😮😢
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын
Germanium transistors were made by hand. Inside that can is a piece of germanium and and 3 needles - needles put there but human hands.
@dougpeters1625
@dougpeters1625 Ай бұрын
this is very interesting. Thank you for posting. on a semirelated subject, I always thought Sears could’ve been the next Amazon. They just didn’t know it. they mailed everybody a catalog and you ordered what you wanted. several days or a couple weeks later it was delivered to you. this was several decades ago. They rested on their laurels, didn’t see the future coming, and now they are basically gone .
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 13 күн бұрын
Little known fact: Amazon merely mimicked the Sears business model from the early to the mid 1900s. They are almost identical, with the major differences being the technologies in use coupled with the fact that Amazon gets its orders on line while Sears was mailed in to them from their catalogues. Both received orders in bulk from vendors and sorted them into individual units for home delivery. Sears’s downfall was basically a change in pop culture, being when shopping malls became wildly popular and killed their catalogue business which then forced Sears to dismantle its home delivery infrastructure. By the time of the internet revolution Sears lacked the resolve and resources needed to recreate the infrastructure of is home delivery model. Many like to say that Sears should have placed its catalogue online, which is an oversimplification of the problem. Anyone can place products for sale online, but the large scale infrastructure needed to sort and ship nationwide is a massive undertaking.
@markmowbray1769
@markmowbray1769 28 күн бұрын
All very interesting, just shows the fragility of our world in terms of technology and ground breaking breakthroughs.
@gowthamtjonah
@gowthamtjonah 14 күн бұрын
This video deserves millions of views bro 🎉 Really appreciate It ❤😊
@PetrBelohoubek-ot5ok
@PetrBelohoubek-ot5ok Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that Linux had huge role on fall of Sun Microsystems ;-)
@balpreetsingh6834
@balpreetsingh6834 2 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Thank you as always Balpreet!
@aussieausbourne1
@aussieausbourne1 Ай бұрын
Henry Ford's genius was seeing the disassembly lines in the slaughter house in reverse and applying it to his auto assembly business.
@vint22556
@vint22556 2 ай бұрын
Simple Answer : Run by dumb MBA's
@analogdesigner-Jay
@analogdesigner-Jay Ай бұрын
Xerox suffered from poor service, especially for their copiers. Bell Labs didn't invent the laser, Hughes did. Thanks for a great video.
@koustavpramanick8373
@koustavpramanick8373 Ай бұрын
You could have added Phillips too, they made fortune selling lamps, they ysed to have a seperate semiconductor division and phillips physics laboratory was like bell labs. But due to bad management decisions most of division closed. It was such a great company
@vedantmungre1702
@vedantmungre1702 22 күн бұрын
Truee, Tech Altar made a video on it.
@developer-x
@developer-x Ай бұрын
Great voiceover, good going🎉
@ThrowBackZone
@ThrowBackZone 2 ай бұрын
I used to love Java in college. It's crazy how they didn't capitalize on it more.
@Bholu420
@Bholu420 Ай бұрын
Dude, your editing is good but you need to focus more on your content as it lacks quality. specifically the key points 1. Xerox - didn’t mention GUI mouse 2. At&T - didn’t mention it was indirectly US government funding the R&D before baby bells
@masteryoda129
@masteryoda129 28 күн бұрын
they didn't lost it all they are still in the market in their own way and they'll keep working hard to come back.
@ABIMASS-000
@ABIMASS-000 Ай бұрын
Awesome video bro
@brianmurithindiritu2608
@brianmurithindiritu2608 2 ай бұрын
Nice video. Would you mind doing one on Kodak and the digital photography revolution? Keep it up.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion Brian. Kodak may already be in the works :)
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Ай бұрын
I was selling Japanese copiers against Zerox in the late 80s' it was easy as their copiers gave poor quality copies. Then as you say they disappeared, but so did Sharp, one of the Japanese brands I was selling.
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 Ай бұрын
A nice little chunk of tech' history thanks.
@Mixa_Lv
@Mixa_Lv 2 ай бұрын
I would've enjoyed a longer video covering this many topics
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Might make dedicated videos about each company :)
@Wizznilliam
@Wizznilliam 2 ай бұрын
​@@LogicallyAnsweredYou didn't include them but Motorola could EASILY be in this list. And not just for being the inventors of cell phones. They fumbled SEVERAL technologies where they had significant leads in: Cell phones, Semiconductors, cable boxes, modems, military radios/tech, Public safety tech, Satellite connectivity/communications, etc. Now they are a shadow of what they were only around 30 years ago.
@cilldublin07
@cilldublin07 2 ай бұрын
kodak??
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Xerox
@Anonymous_31036
@Anonymous_31036 Ай бұрын
Nokiya
@Papasot
@Papasot 2 ай бұрын
I just realised you look exactly like my 5th grade science teacher 😂
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha, is that a compliment?
@Papasot
@Papasot 2 ай бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered idk he looked great and was a very helpful teacher
@SunriseLAW
@SunriseLAW Ай бұрын
7:17 Don't know about the Bell Lab but, ATT is one of USA's biggest companies. They own a long list of other companies such as Warner Media (which owns several other companies such as CNN), Cricket Wireless, DirectTV, and a host of other 'phone or communications' companies.
@salihawouda2992
@salihawouda2992 Ай бұрын
This is why companies are racing to the metaverse
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын
Next week: HP, Motorola, Digital Electronics Co. (DEC), Digital Research and, to end, IBM - and how they managed to stay alive.
@markisaac3550
@markisaac3550 Ай бұрын
Thank for info
@ourv9603
@ourv9603 Ай бұрын
Sun Micro Systems began life as Stanford Unified Network on campus. Once the geniuses had created the worlds first comuter network the team decided to go commercial. They offered a piece to the University. but the University declined and wished the team well in their endevor. !
@StevenTAbell
@StevenTAbell Ай бұрын
Sun / Java did *not* invent "Write Once - Run Anywhere". They just had a massively bigger marketing budget than their competitors, along with a very attractive woman with a very nice wardrobe to pitch it. The fact that you report Sun's non-invention of the virtual machine as if they did is part of the sad history. While the JVM is a nice piece of work, what they intentionally prevented it from doing is a whole chapter of technology destruction that is repeatedly swept under the rug.
@NeilRieck
@NeilRieck Ай бұрын
I think the market share loss of Nortel is larger than Juniper
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Ай бұрын
You could add Philips to that list. They invented the compact cassette and the compact disc. However, from their beginnings as a manufacturer of light bulbs, they moved to consumer electronics, and a whole lot more. It's the 'whole lot more' that is relevant. From everything it's done in the past, it now manufactures medical appliances. It's market cap is just under €26bn. But one of the companies it spun off is NXP, which is now worth close to €60bn. Another one is ASML (actually a joint venture), which has a near monopoly on the manufacture of photolithography machines. It's market cap is close to a whopping €300bn.
@FozzyBBear
@FozzyBBear Ай бұрын
Philips was a founding member of the Phoebus Cartel. They've always made their products as sh!ttily as they could possibly get away with. When the Phoebus Cartel imploded they redirected all their efforts to hiring lobbyists to ban their own hero incandescent product in favor of CFL bulbs that cost 20 times as much, and don't even exist anymore because every single one has since blown-up in a cloud of toxic waste, and been replaced by an LED. We still have incandescent bulbs, we still have LED bulbs, but we no longer have so many of those toxic CFL bulbs that Philips and the rest of the cartel spent billions of dollars pushing on us for 20 years.
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Ай бұрын
@@FozzyBBear LED bulbs haven't been around for a very long time, mostly because blue LEDs haven't been around for a very long time. Fluorescent lighting has been around for decades, on the other hand. And in the EU, you can no longer buy incandescent bulbs.
@ebinrock
@ebinrock Ай бұрын
Don't forget they also own the Norelco brand, maker of (IMO) the best electric shavers ever.
@manuelroger1035
@manuelroger1035 2 ай бұрын
Just from watching this Video, I think taking Bell Labs' life support machine aka AT&T was one of the biggest mistakes of humanity. What those guys could have created in the meantime is out of my imagination capabilities. Just so sad to see
@supplychainanalytics9114
@supplychainanalytics9114 Ай бұрын
There is alot you left out - you never mentioned Unix and Sun and Bell Labs, the most One of the most important developments in OS's that made c popular. That Xerox had much of the early tech that went into Apple and Adobe - type faces and graphics, which was core.
@dibdias1
@dibdias1 Ай бұрын
Well done! You just missed Kodak. They invented the digital photography and shelf it.
@markbanash921
@markbanash921 Ай бұрын
What's also tragic about Xerox is that the products they still make simply don't keep up with the competition. Their color laser printers have horrible interfaces and require almost DOS commands to get some features to work
@ebinrock
@ebinrock Ай бұрын
Just today, I had to put in a ticket to my IT department about our Xerox printer being offline, not having network connection. This is the second time this happened. Meanwhile, I added a Canon printer in a nearby room, and it works just fine.
@markbanash921
@markbanash921 Ай бұрын
Bought a Canon myself
@Timothy.365
@Timothy.365 Ай бұрын
Great video, could have spent 30 minutes on each company! Keep it up 👍
@livingstonantony4135
@livingstonantony4135 2 ай бұрын
Oh man you are really awesome I never miss to watch your videos
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the support man!
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 Ай бұрын
TI was the first to make silicon transistors. TI still exists, and is doing well. Fairchild started, just to make transistors. Their claim to fame, was they were located in Silicon Valley, and spawned off many other semiconductor companies, creating the silicon valley model. It was eventually swallowed by National Semiconductor, who later spawned off their "jelly bean" parts, as Fairchild. This fake Fairchild, eventually was bought by On Semi (formerly Motorola's "jelly bean" semi division. Their good stuff went to Freescale). National, and later On Semi, both got swallowed up by TI (Texas Instruments).
@sydfin
@sydfin 2 ай бұрын
Bell Labs/Lucent was spun out of AT&T in 1996 and then was Acquired/Merged with Alcatel in 2006 and in 2016 Acquired by Nokia.
@Egilhelmson
@Egilhelmson Ай бұрын
AT&T still has AT&T Labs in New Jersey. Mind, AT&T was bought by Southwest Bell, which then changed its name to AT&T and obtained the old stock symbol (T), but it still does non-telephony research, just not nearly as much. The Labs were originally a way of sheltering corporate profits from state Utility Commission limits on utility company profits, so it operating at a loss was fine, and became a bad habit.
@jentigermoratai2149
@jentigermoratai2149 Ай бұрын
Xerox invented Smalltalk and therefore the first VM. Sun picked it up 10 years later for java....
@MaleRainbowAction
@MaleRainbowAction Ай бұрын
You know, Java and C++ are two separate types of coding languages. Java is interpreted (like LISP) and compiled, like C++/C/etc. Interpreted runs slower and uses more resources. Compiled are easier to finesse, faster, less resource intensive. Frankly, most of the time you can just compile c++ for any given OS. For larger programs you need to use things like APIs which yes are somewhat OS specific. I’ll still take compiled over interpreted.
@indivp
@indivp Ай бұрын
Forgot to mention Philips A huge legacy of this company is ASML which is one of the most important chip manufacturing machines company. Philips was much like Samsung is now. But today the Philips name is still on many products not made by Philips at all, but just using the name.
@karthikeyanak9460
@karthikeyanak9460 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video verbose, I found a service to make summary of KZbin video's.
@stinger4712
@stinger4712 Ай бұрын
Sun was a brilliant company. They weren't complacent, not arrogant. Bad things just happen to good people.
@AJ-lu3wx
@AJ-lu3wx Ай бұрын
We need to be unburdened by what has been.
@jordankendall86
@jordankendall86 2 ай бұрын
Just curious about Silo that you shared in the video. If I am reading the terms correctly, couldn't the commission be more than $1 if the bond purchase value is over $1,000. I was reading the IBKR commission schedule and $1 is just the minimum charge per bond purchase transaction, thus if for example I purchased $100,000 worth of corporate bonds in one transaction, I would expect it to cost $25. Also, it looks like U.S. Treasury purchases have a $5 minimum. Can you comment on that so I understand the commission fees to expect. Thanks.
@ScottAllenFinance
@ScottAllenFinance 2 ай бұрын
Bottom line, listen to absolutely ZERO youtubers who attempt to explain anything relating to investing, securities, or finance in general. 🤣🤣🤦🤦
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Hey Jordan, absolutely. It's $1 commission per $1,000 face value bond. There is a minimum purchase quantity of 5 for government bonds and 2 for corporate bonds. So, even though the minimum commission for US treasuries is $5, since the minimum purchase quantity is 5, in practice, the commission will always be $1 per $1,000 face value bond or less. For larger quantities of bonds, please refer to IBKR's fixed income pricing tables. We follow these exactly. www.interactivebrokers.com/en/pricing/commissions-bonds.php
@fugazishoegazey648
@fugazishoegazey648 Ай бұрын
Building a moat with hardware is tough!
@ZelX-
@ZelX- 2 ай бұрын
Silo is a scam. It literally does nothing you can't do for free.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
😢
@ZelX-
@ZelX- 2 ай бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered am I wrong? I will happily retract my statement if I am.
@LogicallyAnswered
@LogicallyAnswered 2 ай бұрын
Scam refers to something that is fraudulent. Doesn't seem fair to describe paying commissions to use a brokerage as a scam. But, even if that's how you want to define it, it is true that you can buy US Treasuries on the government's outdated TreasuryDirect website for free. But where can you buy corporate bonds for free? In terms of brokerages, as far as I know, we offer the lowest commissions on government and corporate bonds. $1 commission per $1,000 face value bond (or even less depending on volume). Not to mention, the 3% welcome deposit bonus...
@jcjko5504
@jcjko5504 Ай бұрын
Downfall of NCR would be a good story too.
@celebratelife865
@celebratelife865 Ай бұрын
I like watching your videos, bud.
@MH_Bikes
@MH_Bikes Ай бұрын
The Xerox sales team, was the anti-sales team. My god, they couldn't get out of their own way.
@liquidsnake6879
@liquidsnake6879 Ай бұрын
Back in the days when disgruntled employees would put their money where their mouth was, start their own company and prove their worth instead of just moaning on social media about how mean their boss is
@edism
@edism Ай бұрын
Complaining about nothing, these companies didn't know what to do with what they had. The initial idea is only part of what makes a good product.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын
Bell Labs became Lucent Technologies before becoming Nokia. Nokia, btw, it the company that invented the smartphone - with a seven day battery life, btw.
@Jobberwocky
@Jobberwocky 22 күн бұрын
Issue is no one has made better networking gear than Cisco. Sure we’re not flashy shiny unicorn but no one’s better
@kephalopod3054
@kephalopod3054 Ай бұрын
Two other companies that fell behind new technologies: Blackberry and Kodak.
@davidjames666
@davidjames666 Ай бұрын
i think back in the 80's and 90's we printed a lot more from computers. since, printers are not a big thing anymore
@olafschermann1592
@olafschermann1592 Ай бұрын
Nokia, Kodak, IBM, Phillips, …
@michalparszuto1002
@michalparszuto1002 Ай бұрын
Missing Philips, Nokia and probably HP
@chriskutz7144
@chriskutz7144 Ай бұрын
Keeping up with new and innovative ideas ? Don't tell that to Atari, Midway and others.
@Willy-hs7uu
@Willy-hs7uu 23 күн бұрын
This is the MO of a companies failure, they have a successful product, but coming out with something new will make your current successful product obsolete. THAT fear is what causes failure. yes you need to be the company that makes your older product obsolete. that is the hallmark of every successful company. Brass at the top see the numbers and are happy, because it was probably their idea that has made them successful, they do not listen to their engineers and other peoples ideas in the company that would compete with their own idea down the line. Ego has a lot to do with why some companies fail.
@frankthespank
@frankthespank 25 күн бұрын
Ya missed one of the biggest, Kodak and the digital camera. Kodak basically invented the personal digital camera but “shelved it” because it would have killed their core business: Film, photo paper and all the chemicals to develop them. So, they shelved it and let other companies “develop” (pun intended) digital camera technology until Kodak simply became obsolete. Now they are a shell of what they once were…. 🤷‍♂️
@mckengineer5727
@mckengineer5727 Ай бұрын
As an ex-Xeroid, I’m afraid to have to say all your ‘Xerox’ insights are wrong 😟
@user-target4AGI
@user-target4AGI Ай бұрын
A Person worths more than the Idea
@randyscorner9434
@randyscorner9434 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Intel will soon be added to this list. You could also have added DEC, Compaq, Osbourne....
@pascualromero8245
@pascualromero8245 Ай бұрын
Never forget Atari because before there bankruptcy and collapsed they actually had an opportunity to change the gaming and technological landscape forever when Apple were offer to buy them with Sega and Nintendo also offered them to be there publisher during at the height of there power but refused, this wasted opportunity prevented them from saving there eventual downfall.
@olafschermann1592
@olafschermann1592 Ай бұрын
Many fates can be reduced to one source: lazy, stupid, dumb top management.
@dangremaus1164
@dangremaus1164 28 күн бұрын
3:20 I like Silicon Valley better than Germanium Valley.
@waichui2988
@waichui2988 Ай бұрын
This video is junk. Xerox had a computer lab in California where they invented the personal computer. The Xerox executives just did not know how those products fit into their world. It is a big difference between complacency and not know what you have. The chip was created by Fairchild? That is nonsense. Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore were two executives of their West Coast operation. They left to found Intel and afterwards, Robert Noyce invented the chip. Almost at the same time, Jack Kelby invented the chip at Texas Instrument. These are basic, well known facts.
@scottdiamond7133
@scottdiamond7133 Ай бұрын
You forgot about Nortel networks works and Blackberry
@leolacic9442
@leolacic9442 27 күн бұрын
Flution and Flextion. What anymore you want?
@janibeg3247
@janibeg3247 Ай бұрын
Sigh... i had stock in Bell Labs after ATT was broken up.
@supplychainanalytics9114
@supplychainanalytics9114 Ай бұрын
Intel is about to Join them. Long in the making (since early 2000's they started to lose their way), but its going to happen.
@donaldwycoff4154
@donaldwycoff4154 Ай бұрын
Wish I could disagree, but I think you are right about Intel. Their recent cutbacks are severing the talent that created Nehalem and made it possible for successive generations of compute architectures. Where is Intel going that ARM or AMD can't do cheaper and for less power?
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