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@UncLester Жыл бұрын
One of the saddest parts is that Bartman was probably one of the biggest Cubs fans at the game. Dude was not only watching the game live but also listening to it on the radio. Like who does that besides someone that really enjoys baseball?
@increasearmadillo3032 Жыл бұрын
I tried it once. It was really cool to have commentary live during the game. But I get distracted way too easily and stopped to talk with people nearby me after a couple innings
@djyanno Жыл бұрын
What I truly hate is that most people would have done the same. As far as I see, he was not the only one reaching for the ball.
@coyotelong4349 Жыл бұрын
He’s just unlucky enough to have been the one to catch it If someone else had caught it, THEY’D have been “the Bartman” instead
@sneersh9107 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I do think there's a good chance that ball would've been caught but you can't blame him for doing what anyone else would do. When a ball is coming toward you your natural reaction is to try to catch it.
@Tarhockey33 Жыл бұрын
Yes anyone would of done it but at the same time your suppose to have a level of common sense and understand the situation of what's going on. It's the same when with foul balls and not getting hit by them. You have to pay attention to the game in action. Maybe he didn't deserve the level of hatred he got, but your at a playoff game and you can't read the situation or know what's going on to not go for the ball??? Like cmon now
@djyanno Жыл бұрын
@@Tarhockey33 One thing for sure, in that particular instance, most of the present spectators seemed to reach for it
@Tarhockey33 Жыл бұрын
@@djyanno and it's why common sense continues to be on the decline
@ScreamingYellowMach Жыл бұрын
It was disgusting how fans treated him after this. As a Cubbies fan, the cubs had nobody to blame but themselves for their loss.
@emills6525 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself. The club should have done more to protect him.
@samraleigh2234 Жыл бұрын
Except for Alex Gonzalez. The inning should have ended with his error.
@coyotelong4349 Жыл бұрын
It definitely put a stain on the nice & easygoing “Friendly Confines” reputation that the Cubs fanbase has
@jaredlackey9177 Жыл бұрын
@Coyote Long the fact that that guy got out of there alive is proof of the "friendly confines".
@psymar Жыл бұрын
Personally I blame the manager for not going out to the mound and calming down his *rookie* starting pitcher, who was still in in the *eighth* inning. And to a lesser extent the Pirates pitcher who beaned Sammy Sosa, who wasn't quite the same after that.
@FingerFood_ Жыл бұрын
If you ever get the chance, the 2011 documentary about Steve Bartman called Catching Hell is fantastic. Probably not reaction-worthy, given its 1 hour 45 minute runtime, but it's a fascinating look into scapegoating and how groups can turn on people.
@adamplace1414 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. In fact, a lot of the 30 for 30 docs are worth a watch.
@TheSpacemannspiff Жыл бұрын
@@adamplace1414 The Hillsborough one is fantastic.
@sethp26 Жыл бұрын
+1
@sirjohnlegion2691 Жыл бұрын
Catching Hell was one of the best 30 for 30 docs ever. I'm old enough to remember when you were allowed to upload the full documentary like that on youtube. Some people created entire playlists of the 30 for 30 docs available for viewing on their channels. Those were the good ole days.
@danflaherty5218 Жыл бұрын
This video does not approach the tragedy to Bartman's life. He was vilified for years in the media and at his workplace and could not leave his house. The Cubs and the fans did not come out quickly to forgive and it was years before the issue died down.
@dc07932 Жыл бұрын
Fuck Cubs fans the team shouldn’t have choked
@ninjafirewolf Жыл бұрын
Not everyone in Chicago has a problem with Him Non-Baseball fans didn't care. I only found out about it around 2016 because of a Documentary I seemed on ESPN or KZbin Can't remember being a Non-Baseball fan because of the Cubs and White Sox I was Up set with Cubs Fans who were Angry at Someone who do what all Fans do when a Baseball coming their way.
@Geeberino Жыл бұрын
@@ninjafirewolf good thing OP didn't say everyone right? he said the Cubs and FANS
@peterandjunko Жыл бұрын
I think Cubs fans were only willing to forgive after they won in 2016. Remember the White Sox won the WS two years later and that really made Cub fans feel anger on top of disappointment until 2016. Bartman was just another bit of evidence of the Curse that needed to be scorned…unfortunately for him.
@sneersh9107 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same, this video doesn't capture just how bad it was for Bartman. I can't imagine being in that situation where a good portion of your city and fanbase hates your guts. Would be very interested to hear the story from Bartman himself but you can't blame him for laying low even to this day.
@legochickenguy4938 Жыл бұрын
This incident did irreparable damage to the reputation of Cubs fans in many people’s eyes
@duchaneaux Жыл бұрын
My memory's hazy but from what I remember, the reason Bartman was wearing those headphones was so he could listen to the Cubs' radio broadcaster commentate the game. When that whole incident happened, he could hear the broadcaster going off about it and that's when he realized how big his mistake was.
@supersoulty Жыл бұрын
As a Cubs fan, the problem with all the organizations overtures toward Bartman is that they weren’t done to make him feel better about what happened but to make the fan base feel better about what they did to him.
@gregadkins2483 Жыл бұрын
Never really gave this thought, but you are right. Time changes the way we think about things and while I thought it was funny then, now I just think it is sad. It shows the state of the Cubs fanbase at the time. It was toxic. I'm an M's fan so I had no skin in this game, but I always liked Moises Alou. Now I just see that his reaction + that fan base + what happens after is just a recipe for Bartman becoming a scapegoat. I also think that if Bartman wasn't nerdy then people would have acted differently. Sports fans really can be shitty. I hate it.
@galagajunkie Жыл бұрын
As a Cubs fan who was watching it live, I felt so bad for the guy because you knew he was a genuine fan because he was listening to the radio broadcast on headphones while at the game. He did what most any other guy would instinctively have done in going for the ball, and while I hated how the game played out after, it just reinforced how crazy baseball can be.
@adamplace1414 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live, and how surreal it all felt. Everyone knew the Cubs "cursed" history, and that 8th inning felt downright supernatural. The fact that Bartman got so much trouble out of it felt just as tragic then as it does now. Also just to make clear something the video skipped over: when they said he hadn't been seen publicly, they mean he hasn't made any public appearances. At least as of a few years ago he still goes to work and the like.
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
I saw it too. It was one of those times you just knew they were going to blow it. You could see it in the way the entire team held themselves. And the Marlins sensed it too. All because Alou overreacted terribly.
@adamplace1414 Жыл бұрын
@@MDK2_Radio exactly. To me, that collapse was always because of Alou's tantrum and Gonzalez's error. That, and leaving Mark Prior out there to twist in the wind. 0% on Bartman.
@johnprina3924 Жыл бұрын
As a life long Cubs fan myself and someone who watched that game live, the hate Bartman got was completely unfair. It would have been nice to get that out but it was obviously mostly on the team that we collapsed at the end of the game. It was an instinctual reaction to reach for that ball. Most people that hated him, probably would've done the same thing. Bartman wasn't even the only one reaching for it that play.
@paulfrancis9129 Жыл бұрын
The video didn't mention that he was listening to the game oh headphones on the radio commentary an so had a delay knowing what was happening, the ball got to him before he heard the bat hitting it. He was escorted to security room where he could see every camera angle of them replaying it over an over. A security guard took him to her house till the crowd went home an he watched it all on tv over an over before he knew what had happened
@YepOkay Жыл бұрын
He did what any fan might do in the heat of the moment. I watched this live when I was in high school and felt bad for him then, and still do.
@Chess613 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you guys focused on this topic - i think the better video that really highlights the Bartman incident is the ESPN 30 for 30 video Catching Hell - that's the one you should have seen.
@baileyjones1854 Жыл бұрын
That 30 for 30 is great. That's how i learned about the story i was fascinated
@scottn.4865 Жыл бұрын
Moises Aloud later said he wasn't even going to make the catch. He said LATER after Batman got all of the deal put on him.
@sneersh9107 Жыл бұрын
This is the most infamous case of fan interference I know of. This video doesn't capture the full extent of how bad it was, Bartman's life was ruined for a while, he received a lot of death threats and couldn't leave his house without fear of being attacked. Good news is that these days it seems like Cubs fans have come around and realized they went too far and it wasn't his fault and he gets a lot of love these days. Bartman still stays out of the spotlight though, and I can't blame him after all he went through.
@proteuswest1084 Жыл бұрын
I was very upset in the moment having been a massive Cubs fan for my whole life, but what I can say is that as Bartman was escorted out of the stadium and I watched the Fox broadcast continually show his face, I realized that this whole thing was a tragedy. Wrigley Field is a sacred place where fans celebrate their love of the Cubs and is known as the Friendly Confines for that reason. I was sick about how the game went and what it might mean for our chances of advancing to the World Series, but I felt even worse because I realized that this was an event that went against everything I loved about being a Cubs fan. If you love the Cubs, it isn't about winning or losing, but it's about unconditional love. It's about being there, loyal, no matter what, and no matter what anyone says, we forgot about that and really caused some hurt to one of our own. Steve Bartman hasn't resurfaced in any public way since that moment, but I hope he has been able to move on and find it in his heart to forgive us.
@matterlichman8424 Жыл бұрын
You should take a look at Kerry Wood's 20 strikeout game. Many consider it the greatest game ever pitched
@Cjherand Жыл бұрын
Definition In every case of spectator interference with a batted or thrown ball, the ball shall be declared dead and the baserunners can be placed where the umpire determines they would have been without the interference. When a spectator clearly prevents a fielder from catching a fly ball by reaching onto the field of play, the batter shall be ruled out. But no interference is called if a spectator comes in contact with a batted or thrown ball without reaching onto the field of play -- even if a fielder might have caught the ball had the spectator not been there. .... Stadium have a yellow line bordering the field and fan seats so if ever they reach IN over that line, its easily reviewed NOW.
@josephsoto9933 Жыл бұрын
I went a Cubs game in 2014. During warmups people would go diwn to Bartman's seat and take pictures. Once at a game in Yankee Stadium there was a high foul ball near the end of the 1st base dugout. As the Yankee 1st-baseman leaned into the crowd a fan reached up and caught it first. The whole stadium wanted to kill that poor bastard. Oh it was awful. For what seemed forever the hecklers wanted blood. Damn!??
@chopps75 Жыл бұрын
This was such a shameful event in Cubs fan history, but there were a lot of fans who did speak out against the hate, at the time and over the years, they just didn't get the same media attention as the hate.
@srellison561 Жыл бұрын
As a Cubs fan, I watched that game. I never thought that Bartman had an impact on the game, and it wouldn't matter if it had. He only did what all the fans around him were doing, reaching for the ball. He was just the unlucky fan who actually touched the ball. I blame the loss on Gonzalez's error (for which he took very little flack) and on manager Dusty Baker's very poor post season management; over working his starters, saving pitchers for the next game (Why? If you win, there is no next playoff game). With the exception of last season, Baker has a history of poor post season management. He's a very good regular season manager, but frankly I think the only reason he won last year was because the talent on his team overcame his poor management.
@magarthur3420 Жыл бұрын
It probably doesn't make up for everything but getting an official World Series ring is special. The public does not get those. And to have one as a Cubs fan after breaking the curse is crazy. Hopefully Steve is enjoying baseball somewhere.
@MrNightRome Жыл бұрын
the thing that bothers me the most is that in that play there was at least 5 or more fans reaching for that ball, just happens that he got tagged for it
@thumbthump Жыл бұрын
Along the same lines, although not fans but players, look into Bill Buckner in the 1986 World Series and Jackie Smith in Super Bowl XIII. Both very fine players for many years but one moment overshadowed their career for a long time.
@DMMoore1313 Жыл бұрын
I was 13 when this happened during the NLCS and I still can't watch it without getting sick. Upvotes and likes all around, but I'll save myself the trauma, and let it run in full on silent in the background so the algorithm doesn't get upset, haha!
@Ordzo88 Жыл бұрын
This dudes pronunciations of the names was brutal 😂 Does he actually watch baseball?! Just gave me a good laugh
@btnhstillfire Жыл бұрын
As a Cardinals fan, this gave us unlimited fuel to talk shit about the Cubs and cub fans lmao.
@chrisaustin8442 Жыл бұрын
Not that we needed any extra...
@blitztim6416 Жыл бұрын
Donny Moore of the Angels was a tragedy also. He gave up a home run to Boston in the playoffs of 1986 and it haunted him. He ended up shooting his wife and committing suicide. I believe the wife survived.
@romeyurock Жыл бұрын
As a human, I feel real bad for Bartman. Every fan of baseball would have reached out for the ball in that situation. As a Miami native and Marlins fan, he was our MVP that series
@maribel238 Жыл бұрын
Die hard here. I always felt so bad for Bartman. It was painful to watch them not advance and it hurt my soul, but Bartman didn't deserve that.
@lovesgucci1 Жыл бұрын
If you’re wondering, Bartman was wearing headphones to listen to the game on the radio.
@lovesgucci1 Жыл бұрын
Also, Dusty Baker was the manager for that Cubs team… He won his 1st World Series as a Manager last season.
@juffurey Жыл бұрын
Love the Discord polls, thanks so much guys!
@imalwayslast3170 Жыл бұрын
I was in my freshman year at college and I have been a huge Cubs fan(even though I have never so much as been to Chicago) since I was 4. I am 37 now. I am die-hard to the point of making sure my son's little league team that I was head coach of was the Cubs. I was 18 when this happened and I was watching. I was so frustrated. Then the wheels fell off. It was so shocking. I understand why he did what he did. I also understand the frustration of the lifelong Cubs fans. Hopefully he has been able to rest easy since they won it in 2016.
@supersasukemaniac Жыл бұрын
I think Steve was a scapegoat, you can see at least 4 fans all reaching for the ball.
@arielrichmond1238 Жыл бұрын
Every person in that group was reaching for that ball... THATS WHAT YOU DO... people forget this is a game, played by a few lucky, gifted adults... just a game
@Harrison244 Жыл бұрын
Catching Hell is a cool documentary about this
@ESUSAMEX Жыл бұрын
After beating the Cubs in 2003, the Florida Marlins went on to beat my favorite team the New York Yankees to win the World Series. Bartman's life must have been hell because I am sure he wasn't a rich man and he needed to make a living. The idea of going to work each day in Chicago must have been horrible. I am sure his coworkers were pissed as well. It's really sad and horrible how so many people treated him. The media made him public enemy number one as well because the story was all over the news throughout the entire nation. I do not know what would have done if it had happened to me. I might have decided to take the millions for one public appearance so that I could relocate to another location and not have work again. The Cubs did the classiest thing ever.
@angrydemonproductions4361 Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame Bartman at all… I blame first, the manager Dusty Baker for never coming out of the dugout for a mound visit - not to admonish or anything like that, just to give it a moment and let player tempers to clam down….. he had the opportunity to say ‘its only 1 pitch, you still got this, relax’ but he didn’t… he never took the responsibility as a manager to reign in the team… Second person I blame is obviously Gonzo for booting the ball… even in the high emotional state, he makes that play and all is good everyone goes from pizzed to happy… Bartman should never have been blamed… what happened to him was disgusting and I feel bad for him…
@JoeyVatavuk Жыл бұрын
i couldn’t even pay attention to his intro because the star wars music caught me off guard lol
@inarar5334 Жыл бұрын
For another playoff interference story, check out Jeffrey Maier. It's almost the exact opposite scenario of when a fan interferes.
@19MichaelDixon Жыл бұрын
Bartman is cool but fuck that kid. - An Orioles fan
@lovesgucci1 Жыл бұрын
That kid was a hero to Yankees fans. Obviously, 2 totally different circumstances. Maier caught Jeters ball by leaning over the railing. Also, the umps ruled it a home run, instead of fan interference.
@inarar5334 Жыл бұрын
@@lovesgucci1 yeah, like I said. Almost the exact opposite scenario involving interference.
@lovesgucci1 Жыл бұрын
I know, I was agreeing with you.
@WahooSerious Жыл бұрын
Remember watching this when it happened
@ChrisinOSMS Жыл бұрын
I believe it was Bernie Mac’s seventh inning stretch comments that jinxed them. His “Let’s go champs, CHAMPS!” prior to singing ‘Take Me Out to The Ball Game’ was a bit premature, I remember thinking “Oh,no! Don’t get cocky.”
@-EchoesIntoEternity- Жыл бұрын
5:24 it doesnt matter if the ball was leaving into the crowd, the player is still allowed to jump lean into the crowd to make a catch for an out.
@AngelA-qi1br Жыл бұрын
The player can lean into the stands BUT that area belongs to the fans who actually have just as much right to go for the ball and it would not be called fan interference.
@-EchoesIntoEternity- Жыл бұрын
@@AngelA-qi1br didnt say it would be fan interference. the guys seemed confused as if the ball is out of play because its in the stands, unware that a player can still make a play on it.
@hardhatlunchpal Жыл бұрын
The problem with it all was the way Moises Alou handled it. If he didn't throw a temper tantrum everyone would've been calm. But ol' pee on his hands Alou sparked a fan hunt.
@monicapegues4008 Жыл бұрын
Poor guy had to go into hiding. When in reality the Cubs blew it. It was going downhill before this happened. The team let themselves down & let this man bare the brunt of the blame. He had to go into hiding. Not our best moment as fan's. But when we won the world series, the Cubs organization gifted him a world series ring & invited him to throw the first pitch in next seasons home opener. But he politely declined but did accept the ring. To be fair the new owners were not the owners of the organization when this happened. I watched this game in real time. The Cubs collapsed.
@larrythecableman6963 Жыл бұрын
The Star Wars music the backround of the video is so distracting lol
@ryane5483 Жыл бұрын
I was at this game. It was brutal. If any non player or executive deserved a ring it was Bartman.
@sammurphy3343 Жыл бұрын
Yea I agree with yall. The cubs made too many misplays after his interference to put the loss on him. Maybe if he he caught a home run and prevented the cubs player from getting the out. There were just too many mistakes to put it on him.
@ronclark9724 Жыл бұрын
If Bartman interfered with a Marlin player attempting to catch the foul ball, the Cub fans would be celebrating. The unwritten rule is that local (home fans) should make way for a home player, but who wants to catch the foul ball of a visiting player? Shucks, Cub fans throw the visiting team home run balls back onto the field. So the desire is much higher to catch and keep a ball hit by the home team. The umpires ruled correctly that the ball was out of play and fans and players could attempt to catch the ball. If they had ruled the ball was in play, the umpires would have called fan interference and the batter would have been out. As you noted, far more happen after that play that caused the Cubs to loose that game. But having to get 4 outs instead of 3 in an inning usually leads to multiple runs to score in that inning. As what happen here.
@NickKaminski1980 Жыл бұрын
It was horrible what happened to Batman. However, as a life-long Cubs fan watching that game live, I knew as soon as that incident took place that the Cubs would lose that game and series. But, as a life-long Cubs fan, with all the feels as a Cubs fan, there are things I knew at that time that aren't discussed in this video. We all know the Cubs hadn't won a World Series since 1908 at that point. But the last time they were this close to even sniffing the World Series, they had a 2 game to nothing lead in a best of 5 series and wound up losing three in a row, just as they did in this series. And at that point the Cubs hadn't even been in the postseason in 40 years. However, the Cubs were to blame. Errors, in fact, in both series, as we saw in this video, did them in. I even put a lot of blame on manager Dusty Baker for what ensued, because he was livid immediately after, without even seeing what happened. However I still knew we would lose at that moment...because I'm a Cubs fan.
@yang-it-yin7002 Жыл бұрын
I used to sympathize with Cubs fans before this incident. But the way they treated Bartman was completely uncalled for and deplorable. I cannot ever side with the Cubs regardless of all the efforts made by the club post incident. I have nothing against the club, its the way the fans acted towards this poor guy. If they wanted to blame anyone blame the team for collapsing. They still had a game 7 at home and failed.
@videogamevalley7523 Жыл бұрын
this was a very good video, I remember that game cause I watched it but I didnt know he became a recluse because and it shows how savage humans can be. Im glad that the Organization stood by him thru that, I see that as a big W. Cheers
@monicapegues4008 Жыл бұрын
They actually didn't, they allowed him to be scapegoated. The team blew that game. The new owners tried to make it up to him when we won the championship. He's still in hiding to this day. Poor guy
@videogamevalley7523 Жыл бұрын
@@monicapegues4008 it sucks he went thru. Dont be his friend now that time has passed
@monicapegues4008 Жыл бұрын
@@videogamevalley7523 I never blamed him & I watched in real time. Yeah I'm sure it sucks to have your life upended over a baseball game. It sucks to have to go into hiding & stay there because the Cubs couldn't hack it. Totally sucks to have death threats flying at you by fan's desperate for a championship. I'm not his friend, I'm just human.
@videogamevalley7523 Жыл бұрын
@@monicapegues4008 to me the fans continued the curse by harassing him
@monicapegues4008 Жыл бұрын
@@videogamevalley7523 I can buy that. But the Tribune company continued the curse by not making, much needed, improvements to Wrigley Field. Can't get player's to come here with a club house that's not even fit for elementary school athletics. The curse ended because of owner's who gave a damn, Theo Epstein's plan, & an upgraded Friendly Confines.
@jameshurley9551 Жыл бұрын
Worst thing about this incident was Moises Alou coming out like 10+ years later saying he wouldn't have been able to catch the ball. If he had said that the night of, a lot of this could have been avoided. I wish the Cubs had never won the WS because of their treatment of this poor guy.
@psymar Жыл бұрын
From what I hear he wound up moving to the South Side of Chicago -- where his coworkers are all White Sox fans.
@darrinlindsey Жыл бұрын
One thing the video didn't address is that he had to have police protection at his home and work, for months afterwards.
@jartstopsign Жыл бұрын
The death threats were inevitable, I know it's not the same thing but Bill Buckner got death threats for like 20 years after the ball got through his legs in that Red Sox vs Mets world series error. Bartman was just a nerd who got in the way, and yes it did hit his outstretched hand before Alou had a chance to get his glove on the ball
@OJ-Simpson Жыл бұрын
Why do you have to call the guy a nerd?
@benjaminodem392 Жыл бұрын
@@OJ-Simpson Look at him.
@Hunterbidenscrackrock Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always guys 👏
@MikeMath9 Жыл бұрын
Every Cubs fan says that Bartman was treated poorly but these are some of the same people who harrassed him into hiding
@wthornton9526 Жыл бұрын
It appeared the most upset fans were either the drunks or those that bet on the Cubs, surpassed only by the drunks that bet on the Cubs
@Cubs-Fan.10 Жыл бұрын
Like many in the comments, I was watching that game. Some of yall need to stop lying, we ALL initially blamed Bartman. In the moment nobody was thinking logically because of the Cubs past. Im not talking about threats or any of that because youre a lunatic if you wished him harm,, but we all blamed Bartman for the loss at the time.
@DavidFreddoso Жыл бұрын
You guys need to watch the Sandberg game (just do a search, it was an amazing game in its own right) and the almost identical missed catch that occurred in the exact same spot due to fans interfering. The results were less tragic for the Cubs, but it was an incredible foreshadowing of things to come.
@DNReacts Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the suggestion, thank you 🙏
@mattwestfield6483 Жыл бұрын
imagine being reclusive for 20 years? Thats where hes at right now. Even after the Cubs winning the world series 7 years ago. I'm not even sure many people would recognize him after all these years but hes still afriad. Poor dude. Just to try and get a foul ball, which every single person at that game would love to bring home with them.
@DavidKelly999 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of interesting topics related to this. There's the Curse of the Bambino, Curse of the Billy Goat, Curse of Rocky Colavito, and all kinds of interesting superstitions that many fans and players believe in
@lostmotel6156 Жыл бұрын
Something a lot of people gloss over in this whole thing is that there was another fan right next to Bartman who was also reaching for the ball and probably would have interfered as well had Bartman not touched it first. The whole thing is so instinctual too as a fan. If a foul ball is coming your way, most people’s split second reaction is not to move out of the way, but to catch the ball. Especially if your eye is on the ball the whole time and not the player who might be coming over to make a play on it.
@andrewneese6484 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Chicago native and lifelong Cubs fan, but what happened to Bartman was absolutely shameful and disgusting. I feel bad for him. Worth noting the Cubs have different owners now than they did in 2003. Tom Ricketts took over as owner in 2011, and he and the Ricketts family have tried to do right by Bartman since.
@rogerdodger9752 Жыл бұрын
The Unluckiest Man Alive. He wasn’t the only fan going for the ball. He just had the misfortune of being the one to touch it. Most of us would also go for the ball in that situation. Good shout Damo about the errors after the incident. It wasn’t Bartman’s fault that the Cubs lost game 5. It wasn’t Bartman’s fault that Alex Gonzalez missed the inning-ending double play. It wasn’t Bartman who gave up all those runs. It wasn’t Bartman who lost Game 7. Moises Alou making a big stink out of the play definitely didn’t help. I can’t possibly imagine what he went through. From the highs of getting tickets to see your team in the playoffs to suffering horrific abuse that surely taints any connection you had with the team prior. Well done by the Cubs ownership to do all they did to try to make up for it.
@PHXNKVHXLIC Жыл бұрын
You get an A on this essay
@rogerdodger9752 Жыл бұрын
@@PHXNKVHXLIC Thank you, Professor Smith.
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
Th Cubs had only themselves to blame. They completely scapegoated the guy; especially considering they melted down during that game and then they went on to lose game 7!
@joshshirley33 Жыл бұрын
Alou has said he wouldn't have caught the ball either way.
@DavidKelly999 Жыл бұрын
This story made huge national news. It was everywhere. People dressed like Steve Bartman for Halloween
@darthjayder2927 Жыл бұрын
Like the players said it was their play that was to blame
@19MichaelDixon Жыл бұрын
Any Cubs fans who blamed Bartman are sorry individuals. There was so much more to the Bartman hate than was shown in this video. Another factor that cant be overlooked when looking at this story, and a factor that someone who doesnt follow baseball might not know, is that the Cubs hadnt won the World Series since 1908 at that time. So theyvebeen a LONG suffering fanbase.
@pyrotechnic96 Жыл бұрын
I feel like you're really playing with fire with this one regarding copyright, the music is from a well known sci fi film.
@inarar5334 Жыл бұрын
I've always felt that if Alou hadn't lost his mind they might have actually gotten out of that inning relatively unscathed. Not only did his reaction drum up the hate for Bartman but I think it rattled the entire team. They got in their own heads.
@kenmahoney5255 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@jrzygurl Жыл бұрын
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@gregadkins2483 Жыл бұрын
If the Cubs could close out a series this poor guy's name would never have been known. I love Moises Alou but the way he reacted was Bush League, and led to all of it.
@cjpreach Жыл бұрын
Bartman's World Series Ring is (probably) worth more on the open market than any other ring from that championship (I assume). I could be wrong.
@ImOutOfMtDew Жыл бұрын
If he would of not tried to catch the ball, someone else would of ended up hitting it anyway. Some baseball fans take foul balls too seriously and will take it away from a lil kid.
@robertschuster6922 Жыл бұрын
Even after the Cubs won the World Series in 2016,the stupid media kept bring up Bartman.And how he should receive a World Series Ring.The Ricketts Family should have said that it was the previous owners Tribune Co.should buy him a ring.
@seanpyne1236 Жыл бұрын
Felt so bad for Bartman when this happened
@willpatterson4866 Жыл бұрын
Alou would have never caught that ball. That being said they had another inning to win and plus another game.
@willpatterson4866 Жыл бұрын
Also if you look at that video bartman was pushed into the ball.
@HRConsultant_Jeff Жыл бұрын
The rules are that you never reach out and interfere with a ball that could possibly be caught, especially with your own team trying to catch it. Remember, the Cubs had not won a world series in nearly 100 years.
@alexmule1997 Жыл бұрын
You have to watch the 1998 New York Yankees fight the Baltimore Orioles. It’s the 25 year anniversary
@willpatterson4866 Жыл бұрын
He has also been to games since then.
@Idealdeath8304 Жыл бұрын
Now the context. The cubs haven’t won the World Series since 1908 at this point… and haven’t made it to the World Series since the mid 40s. When you go 80+ years without a World Series people will scape goat anyone.
@brettg274 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the guy, but if you’re a fan sitting in the front row up against the field of play, you have an extra responsibility to be situationally aware, IMO. Especially in a playoff game.
@thisguy8106 Жыл бұрын
What happened to Bartman truly is a tragedy. It's the only reason i didn't want the Cubs to win in 2016. The fact that he wanted nothing to do with anything in the "public eye" made it so much worse.
@salvatoresultana4058 Жыл бұрын
Another video you guys should watch is Bonds in 4. It’s a video that shows you just how dominant Barry Bonds was.
@westhoodqualzini7884 Жыл бұрын
You were talk over the part where they hadn’t won a World Series since 1908. And the the bartman colapse reinforced they had a curse. That’s why this was big. This was also not the best video to explain this
@alperensengun6832 Жыл бұрын
I hope that Bartman has found the peace he deserves
@JohnnyontheSpot1117 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you were gonna Look into this story
@rohanthomas3007 Жыл бұрын
watch the Bill Buckner in Boston
@MALLY808 Жыл бұрын
New Orleans Saints Bountygate would be a great reaction video
@DNReacts Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion Jamal, really appreciate this, will check it’s on the watch list, thanks for the comment. We run regular polls on our Discord for all members to have a say in what videos we do next if you’re not already on there 🙏
@hifijohn Жыл бұрын
Another chapter in the long and rich history of the Cubs, BTW the family guy did a parody of this.
@johnduval6377 Жыл бұрын
There is an old saying in baseball that's directed at the fans, PAY ATENTION at all times! As a fan you should know the circumstances. Nothing against him but it was one of the worst plays by a fan ever. If the cubs hadn't finally won a World Series he would still be catching hell. lol
@eldwdubu6968 Жыл бұрын
After that incident baseball fans do not interfere with balls in play anymore. And other fans around you will stop you if you try.
@craxanshards3139 Жыл бұрын
I was at this game. If it wasn't for Moises Alou , swearing and flipping off Bartman, the crowd would never have turned on him.
@jomardel Жыл бұрын
I think years later Alou said he probably wouldn’t even be able to make the catch.
@andrewkline5611 Жыл бұрын
@@jomardel I believe 2003 Moises might disagree.
@stuksy4321 Жыл бұрын
I always had a soft spot for the Cubbies and their fans.... until that moment.