What Did I Just Witness...

[@CartoonCentral10]

That clip of Wilt almost touching the top of the glass whilst wearing CONVERSE ALL STARS deserves much more attention

[@joesmoke27]

It’s wilt of course he did

[@anonymous-hz2un]

Big deal, the dude was 10 meters tall.

[@mr.spl1nter951]

@@anonymous-hz2unwhat does that have to do with him being able to jump that high Doesn’t that make it more impressive

[@sonofsarek]

And how old was he when he did that? 40?

[@plum.world.entertainment]

no it doesn't😂 dude was 7 feet tall, he would be mopping walmart bathrooms if he was born today

[@krafthelvedemand]

A 4-7% increase in athleticism among the best athletes in the world isn't a marginal increase, it's a completely insane improvement.

[@justinmoen6857]

Better shoes balls courts nutrition and training exercises are the reason stop be dumb

[@bryanpasquale3954]

Haha this study is forgetting that big fat power forwards are no longer part of the game. If you were to take them out of the old statistics I'm sure that % goes down to zero

[@JADiaz10]

Yah I don’t agree with Jimmy’s perspective. I’m like that’s not a little tf lol

[@showtimesportsmedia6906]

@@justinmoen6857ok and that’s not their fault people are more smarter and technologically advanced than people back in the day stop being dumb

[@Kunson]

​@@showtimesportsmedia6906 it's not their fault, but it would be ignorant and dishonest to not acknowledge it. Idfk why yall getting so aggressive when it's a fact that modern day players get better tech. (not a diss)

[@sosadoesit]

No jimmy absolutely wrong way to analyze it. Especially at the 8:40 mark where you say on average 3 to 8 percent. Look up the aggregation of marginal gains where for a bicycle race a team tried to improve every area that affected the racer by a few percentage points. The end result was the biker greatly surpassed every other racer. Small improvements in close to all areas result in massive differences overall.

[@parkerwalton476]

I was thinking the same thing. I feel like that’s a huge change!

[@yoink9148]

@@parkerwalton476 In every case its huge, In my field a mere 1% is massive what more if its 8%

[@blockg9482]

Exactly

[@mattkern5418]

I was thinking something similar when he mentioned the court agility test with only a .3 second difference. Take that over the course of a full 48 min game and those players have, essentially, an extra minute and 20s more of movement, and depending on the player/team, that can be A LOT of shots taken.

[@sosadoesit]

@@mattkern5418 another great way to put it.

[@qqquacksss]

This is the hops my dad said he had in his prime

[@hessulipoika13]

My great grandfather said the same thing

[@OldManLuffy]

Yeah except they could jump and sit on top of the backboard 😂😂😂

[@ColonCommander]

Well to be fair look at the long and high jump. The records haven’t moved since the early 90’s. And give Jesse Owens a nice track and a good pair of shoes brother would be blazing and probably win gold this year in the 100.

[@hessulipoika13]

@@ColonCommander im still in wonder how those athletes are still alive after all that steroid that was used by DDR, US and Soviet union in 80’s and 90’s.

[@doulahaa]

​@@hessulipoika13can't you give them the benefit of the doubt...

[@beckersteen4]

I think we are underestimating what at 3% increase of athleticism at this level looks like. That is not insignificant.

[@thapterodactyl]

Fr, 3% is a lot given context

[@BlanekdCheque]

It’s not that 3% is insignificant, it’s that 3-8% isn’t good enough to say “Oh yeah, these guys are physically built different than players in the past”. The Players have gotten better, but it’s more from better training and coaching rather than them baseline being able to run faster or jump higher.

[@dgod6733]

That 3% is a raise in the average which in the age of optimization, specialized training (remember football players will specifically train for their combine scores as well as train for football) it usually equates to the middle and floor being raised - which raises the overall score. Being 45 and having watched basketball for a long time this passes the eye test as well. Both Ant and Jordan did nutty things on the court, because of course your best athletes will. But the 6th, 7th, or 8th man of today are much better than they used to be, which in turn means the average player of today is better than the average player of yesteryear (most than likely more than 3% I’d bet too). Another example is hockey; teams don’t keep straight goons on their squad like they used to, the players who fill the enforcer role are now required to have a much higher level of skill than they used to. Averages are a funny thing which can mean different things.

[@edak82]

Same as the different between a 10-second 100m and a 9.7-second 100m. Took about 40 years and the emergence of a freak of nature in Usain Bolt for the world record to cover that difference. For the league to progress that much in just 25 in pretty crazy.

[@matthewking7571]

​@BlanekdCheque regardless of why, it's still a significant change, at that high of a level

[@todddonaldson7974]

The follow-up to this is a video about injuries. How many players today play a full 82 game season? How many players are labeled "when healthy"?

[@ropace37]

I couldn’t agree more. I believe durability should be more of a priority when determining how “athletic” a person is. Guys years ago were losing their whole careers with a simple injury that many superstars are experiencing today. Idc how hard you can throw or how fast you are, if you can’t stay healthy then you’re just not that good. Jordan and Walter Payton played their best games with the flu and guys now are sitting out half seasons because they are afraid of getting hurt, but think they should be in the convo for GOAT!?! 😂

[@eddiehoff3824]

⁠didn’t he already make one about that?

[@MsCIsocs]

He made this already im pretty sure

[@hillbilly21960]

Yeah I’m about sick them taking off for a nick. I have work bruised up and they make enough money to stop that crap.

[@FateXO]

@@ropace37jordan didn’t have the flu he was hungover

[@ajaicoleman430]

I would actually say 3-8% increases in athleticism is actually major considering we're talking about some of the most elite athletes in the world. When the baseline is like 90. 95 is reaaaalllly going to stand out.

[@gabrieluribes4192]

You’re not realizing that he does actual statistical calculations and in statistics there are measures to be able to say with a level of confidence if we have enough evidence to prove a significant correlation aka improved athleticism and a 3% increase is not enough to prove beyond reasonable doubt and error that they are better today that before. He is just saying it off a feeling 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@georget.1023]

@@gabrieluribes4192you are stupid if you dont think its statistically significant. The trend is going up over multiple years. Of course the other study that claimed 4-7% makes your godly 3% out the window aswell.

[@bennette.7033]

Jesus loves you.

[@crazyjack3375]

Ya players that have access to professional athlete trainers are probably going to be more athletic

[@ayaananis7818]

Exactly bro thinks it’s gonna go up like 25%

[@gabrieltkacz6754]

Criminal not to mention that we're talking about a 3-8% increase in athleticism for probably the most athletic league in the world? It's massive. An 8% increase in athleticism in the best athletes in the world is insane.

[@johntom23]

Handball players are far superior than anybody.

[@TheRealMagnusCarlsen]

It isn’t a real 4-7% increase. It’s the same thing Tony Mandarich did with the NFL combine. You can cheat the combine by specifically training for their drills. Tony Mandarich went from a 7th round pick to a the 2nd pick because he was the first person that trained his ass off for 5 months to get his 40 speed, bench press, shuttle drill, and vertical all were the best of his position. Like in the video Grayson Allen is more athletic than Westbrook by combine numbers. But obviously he’s not, Westbrook just didn’t train specifically for the combine like Allen did. Side note, but Tony Mandarich is the person who lead to every NFL player trying to max their combine numbers which is why after 1989 you saw a drastic increase in the combine numbers in just a single year. It wasn’t that the athletes in 1990s were 7% more athletic, in fact the 1989 draft class was far better, the 1990 draft class just trained in specific exercises. Which is very similar to the jump we’ve seen in the NBA now.

[@SnuggieMaple]

@@johntom23 handball!

[@SnuggieMaple]

⁠@@TheRealMagnusCarlsen Tony Mandarich was never a 7th round pick dude he was dominating in college (because of steroids) then he stopped taking them in the NFL and sucked

[@bandito241]

@@SnuggieMapleright. Stopped…😂 He struggled because everyone in the NFL takes PEDs😂

[@marissarice3666]

"Skill opening the door for athleticism, not the other way around." Such a great point!

[@Fezziekid]

The percentages seem small, but if you convert them to the real world they are really significant. For example, a 3% improvement in the sprint means you are 2 feet ahead of the average player from 25 years ago if you both sprint 3/4 of the court. That's a huge advantage.

[@ProjectExMachina]

Bolt is 2.84% faster than Lyles

[@misosour]

Lebalco thinks so Many don’t

[@THEBAD654]

Just Jimmy protecting the 90s like usual

[@LSB001]

I was thinking that myself. Athletes of today being 6% better seems like a very large amount at the peak of sport.

[@jonathany10]

Yea, precisely. You look at the Olympics, a 3% increase is absolutely massive and can be the difference between you setting a world record, or you not even medaling. If Noah Lyles was 3% slower in the 100m at the Olympics this year, he would have been dead last in the finals. Jimmy is wrong on this.

[@bigmani832]

You're underrating a 3 inch vertical difference. That's the difference of being able to windmill and 360 compared to a basic dunk.

[@mr.e9051]

True. I’ve lost about 2 “ of my vertical over the years from getting older , and it feels like a big loss . Its the diffrence between getting blocked or getting a and one or just that split second to hang and get off a shot. Its made my confidence to attack the rim go from very often , to just sometimes during a game

[@djomla9999]

Not to mention that players on average seem to be taller with longer wingspans today, that's a few inches on a few different measurements and it adds up...

[@FrokuBabayy]

The fact that Jimmy thinks open lane dunks / layups in a 🧁 league where defense, & physicality don't exist somehow equals "players are more athletic" just further reflects his delusional fanbase... Modern NBA players have the best trainers, technology, nutrition, recovery techniques, health professionals in the world & yet these females can't even last an 82-game season 🤣 NOBODY in the league today were better *perimeter defenders* , *pick-pockets* , *rebounders* *rim protectors* etc. in todays game than the following (80s / 90s): Perimeter defenders / pickpockets: Gary Payton Alvin Robertson Sidney Moncrief Dennis Johnson Mookie Blaylock Clyde Drexler Maurice Cheeks Michael Ray Richardson Michael Cooper Michael Jordan Rim protectors / Rebounders: Hakeem Olajuwon David Robinson Bill Walton Mark Eaton Patrick Ewing Shaquille O'Neal Moses Malone Kevin McHale Bobby Jones Dennis Rodman Scottie Pippen Dikembe Mutombo Alonzo Mourning Charles Barkley Larry Bird Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Sharpshooters: Dale Ellis B.J Armstrong Mahmoud Abdul Rauf Larry Bird Glen Rice Drazen Petrovic Toni Kukoc Steve Kerr John Paxson Chris Mullin Mark Price Dennis Scott John Stockton Athletic finishers / slashers: Domonique Wikins Clyde Drexler Michael Adams Penny Hardaway Grant Hill George Gervin Isaiah Thomas Michael Jordan TMac Vince Carter (I can keep going)

[@mamadoubarrie6607]

@@djomla9999Nah the league average as always been 6’6 or 6’7 for like 30+ years

[@WillI-ls6or]

i think its just optimization of jumping teqnique

[@bobmortock]

The relaxed rules in terms of gather steps, allowing multiple steps, carrying by a prior era's standard, offense rewarded for initiating contact, etc. also helps explain some of this, too. Shooting and an emphasis on spacing also helps so much. Players are no longer driving into a crowded paint but instead have wider lanes to attack off the dribble

[@thatbicth]

this is so obvious i can’t even finish this video. like it actually feels like it’s rotting my brain. he’s just arguing about shit that has clear explanation through the way the game has changed yet he’s basically only giving credence to the idea of evolution and genuine physical “superiority”. bad video imo

[@Maineabeast]

​@@thatbicth there are highlights from both eras of wide open lanes and crowded paint dunks. No one will argue with you that the game has changed a lot that is beyond obvious. But just because the game changed a lot it does not mean that players now are just as or barely as athletic as the players of the past. The most obvious reason for this increase of skill and athleticism is because they watch their favorite players growing up and use all of their moves as kids. They want to do everything their favorite players did in a game, then when they hit their ceiling they do new and amazing things, the cycle goes on and on

[@ethanl9845]

3-8% or 5-10% better is really significant idk what you’re talking about. Especially at such a high level.

[@jakasmalakas]

Exactly!!

[@gtertgvsdfv4904]

It might be also the selection bias. Because the game is so soft now you don't need players with good shooting and awareness on all positions, you just need guys running up and down the court fast.

[@yerik6034]

@@gtertgvsdfv4904you’re coping so hard😭😭

[@ProjectExMachina]

Bolt is 2.84% faster than Lyles

[@citizenkang01]

Seriously. 10% of a 40 inch vertical is another 4 inches, that's a huge difference. Also that 10 percent is between now and 2000. Add another 10 years to that and 5-10% again to get to peak Jordan era. Also to compare Steph to Blake is a ridiculous testament to Blake, just based on how much larger of a human being he is.

[@coxandrewj]

This whole video reminds me of a similar topic discussed in cycling. Times for bike races were getting faster and faster, and so the immediate assumption is the athletes were getting better. However, when one of the athletes of today has to use a bike of the past, suddenly they fall right in line with the speed of cyclists from a bygone era

[@xaynbb]

reminds me of the jesse owens comparison with modern equipment as well

[@leedurham3144]

Shoes are much better now than it was in the past. That alone helps alot

[@dennisvdg009]

Cyclists were even better back in the doping era based on pure watt output. But what aerodynamics & nutrition is truly mind boggeling.

[@lucyfir2166]

Those shoes don't help that much wheb it comes to your vert​@@leedurham3144

[@bernarddelossantos8083]

same thing with those clunky rims in basketball in the past era.

[@kylesekelsky2912]

When I was in college I met and talked to Jason Preston, he ended up going 33rd overall and is on a 2 way with the jazz. He was scouted as an "average athlete that wasn't explosive" he measured in with a 38" vertical and I saw him dunk 1 hand 360 lobs thrown off the backboard before practices... I realized that if he was considered an average NBA athlete how insane the league must be

[@cnnhdlvth9557]

Liked him on the Clippers though there wasn't much play time for him. We didn't know him as a guy with hops, just a good passer. Yeah nba standards are nuts.

[@RoldanRR00]

Dominique Wilkins did a Euro step layup in 1985. It went from a ground breaking highlight reel play to a turnover as it was called a travel. The freedom modern players have to not worry about travels being called leads to explosive plays, especially near the rim.

[@liambinnie2812]

in all metrics modern athletes are more athletic than previous. More so due to modern technologies and trainings but quality of life being better too. athletes in the past probably would be better today if they had todays help.

[@spar2anl546]

@@liambinnie2812 I wouldn't say more athletic than previous, I'd say more athletically refined than previous. That to say, completely agree otherwise.

[@vietanhtran6457]

@@liambinnie2812 that would mean the base level of athleticism decline over time thou, so it's probably not true

[@4olufade]

If i throw the ball in the post today, will the athlete step back ask the way to the 3 point line?

[@liambinnie2812]

@@vietanhtran6457 no? He said analysts identified a 7% increase in 10 years in the nba. Olympians break records at every olympics. Not purely genetics but athletes are better than what they were 10+ years ago. People thought Micheal phelps would the pinnacle of swimming now we have the guy in Europe breaking all his records

[@tichmupeti]

I don't think you realize how big a difference those times are for the agility and sprint tests... in track and field, such changes in splits are HUGE.

[@TheRealMagnusCarlsen]

It isn’t a real 4-7% increase. It’s the same thing Tony Mandarich did with the NFL combine. You can cheat the combine by specifically training for their drills. Tony Mandarich went from a 7th round pick to a the 2nd pick because he was the first person that trained his ass off for 5 months to get his 40 speed, bench press, shuttle drill, and vertical all were the best of his position. Like in the video Grayson Allen is more athletic than Westbrook by combine numbers. But obviously he’s not, Westbrook just didn’t train specifically for the combine like Allen did. Side note, but Tony Mandarich is the person who lead to every NFL player trying to max their combine numbers which is why after 1989 you saw a drastic increase in the combine numbers in just a single year. It wasn’t that the athletes in 1990s were 7% more athletic, in fact the 1989 draft class was far better, the 1990 draft class just trained in specific exercises.

[@LonerFez69]

Only the lady at 0:49 appreciated it 😅

[@davidchen4592]

6:50 hey, stat major here. 3 inches increase in the avg vertical can actually explain a lot. I think you dismissed it too fast. Since things like this usually fall on a bell curve, 3 inches of extra jump height could mean that there are many many more athletes that can jump higher than say, 38 inches, and maybe thats the threshold where when we watch it we say Oh My God. EDIT: same thing with your other stats. Increase in avg means increase in outliers and many more people capable of doing jaw dropping things

[@johnnysins4870]

I doubt the outliers would increase probably decrease, as everyone now is thought optimal jumping technique. less variation in the bell curve compared to the past as everyone would have different jumping techniques back then.

[@davidchen4592]

@@johnnysins4870 Thats a good point, its possible that the variation is less than before, the point remains however that there are likely many more athletes that have over 38 or even 40 inch verticals. When you get to that point, you can do all the amazing highlights.

[@claytencs]

@@johnnysins4870 This is my only gripe about the vert argument. As a former track and field jumper, you can practically teach someone to jump 3 inches higher off of technique alone, whether it be teaching how to pump with your arms, getting an optimal plant foot, optimal penultimate step, etc. These days, I imagine NBA prospects are taught this before they even step foot into the combine, while back then a lot of athletes probably just showed up in their best shape with little thought into the technique of each of the events

[@chawook_]

yes I agree 3 inches is a massive length

[@tiismuna]

Right. Those little increase are important. For example: Even in Motorsport very expensive upgrades just to increase split seconds faster is great breakthrough already for them.

[@David-vt8kh]

A couple of thoughts I'd love to add: 1. An 8% increase in vertical leap might not sound massive at first, but it’s actually huge. It translates to about 3-4 additional inches, which can take years of dedicated training to achieve at an elite level. While athletes in the past may have had similar potential, advancements in training, technology, and knowledge are allowing today's athletes to tap into and maximize their capabilities more effectively. 2. As mentioned in the video, unlocking these kinds of athletic feats falls into a category I’d call "athletic skill." Being athletic isn’t just about having a max vertical or sprinting speed-it’s also about how effectively you can apply that athleticism. This "athletic skill" has evolved over the decades, and today’s players are a perfect example of how much it matters. They’re more skilled, coordinated, and able to move fluidly and effective in these athletic positions. Compare today’s guards to those of the past: they’re constantly in more athletic situations while dribbling, driving, and creating plays, benefiting from specialized training that develops these precise movements. Watching how players used to do an East Bay dunk compared to now shows that it’s not just about raw output but about the skill to execute it smoothly. 3. Advancements in training, technology, and nutrition also play a huge role. Modern athletes are better equipped to bring out their full potential because we understand the importance of factors like sleep and nutrition far better than before. These insights allow players to consistently perform at their peak, which is why we’re seeing more athletic and skillful plays today than ever before.

[@TheRealMagnusCarlsen]

It isn’t a real 4-7% increase. It’s the same thing Tony Mandarich did with the NFL combine. You can cheat the combine by specifically training for their drills. Tony Mandarich went from a 7th round pick to a the 2nd pick because he was the first person that trained his ass off for 5 months to get his 40 speed, bench press, shuttle drill, and vertical all were the best of his position. Like in the video Grayson Allen is more athletic than Westbrook by combine numbers. But obviously he’s not, Westbrook just didn’t train specifically for the combine like Allen did. Side note, but Tony Mandarich is the person who lead to every NFL player trying to max their combine numbers which is why after 1989 you saw a drastic increase in the combine numbers in just a single year. It wasn’t that the athletes in 1990s were 7% more athletic, in fact the 1989 draft class was far better, the 1990 draft class just trained in specific exercises. Which is very similar to the jump we’ve seen in the NBA now.

[@joshuao9073]

1. You basically said the same thing 3 times. 2. These are all points Jimmy laid out in the video. You didn't add anything lol

[@adam551982]

Are they in more athletic positions bc they dont allow defense AND offensive players get away with palming, traveling and done hop gather step step back shots? Id say absolutely it does.

[@FrokuBabayy]

The fact that Jimmy thinks open lane dunks / layups in a 🧁 league where defense, & physicality don't exist somehow equals "players are more athletic" just further reflects his delusional fanbase... Modern NBA players have the best trainers, technology, nutrition, recovery techniques, health professionals in the world & yet these females can't even last an 82-game season 🤣 NOBODY in the league today were better *perimeter defenders* , *pick-pockets* , *rebounders* *rim protectors* etc. in todays game than the following (80s / 90s): Perimeter defenders / pickpockets: Gary Payton Alvin Robertson Sidney Moncrief Dennis Johnson Mookie Blaylock Clyde Drexler Maurice Cheeks Michael Ray Richardson Michael Cooper Michael Jordan Rim protectors / Rebounders: Hakeem Olajuwon David Robinson Bill Walton Mark Eaton Patrick Ewing Shaquille O'Neal Moses Malone Kevin McHale Bobby Jones Dennis Rodman Scottie Pippen Dikembe Mutombo Alonzo Mourning Charles Barkley Larry Bird Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Sharpshooters: Dale Ellis B.J Armstrong Mahmoud Abdul Rauf Larry Bird Glen Rice Drazen Petrovic Toni Kukoc Steve Kerr John Paxson Chris Mullin Mark Price Dennis Scott John Stockton Athletic finishers / slashers: Domonique Wikins Clyde Drexler Michael Adams Penny Hardaway Grant Hill George Gervin Isaiah Thomas Michael Jordan TMac Vince Carter (I can keep going)

[@jtdabraham7638]

U just summarised the vid lol

[@Quan1992]

I'm at 7:58 and I am making this comment. You can't use data from the draft combine to measure NBA players athleticism and speed. Most individuals who go to the draft combine don't play in the NBA. Also the ones who do go to the NBA sometimes don't participate in every activity at the draft combine. Now that players can enter the draft, go to the combine and withdraw their name and go back to college the draft combine is not a measure or NBA player athleticism. It's a measure of elite college players athleticism.

[@whoamme1974]

Good insights.. maybe this is the only way to measure the athletic because they have all pre NBA when thru the system.

[@plothaki]

Average vert increasing by 3 inches is A LOT!!!!!!!!!!

[@Milk_Bag67]

And it's not about how much athleticism you have but how you use it

[@RIM-REAPERZ]

i love the secret meaning of both the comments above mine 😂

[@Goshified]

A lot of times that's an amount that can be gained through training/technique though. All that means is that at the time of measurement that's the max vertical for the players, once they are professionally trained by a team after getting drafted those measurements will probably change. Because players today will have more access to training/training material earlier in their career they will be closer to their peak potential than they were compared to the past.

[@wxnderchild2065]

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[@Tryc3]

Based

[@darthsilversith667]

My man

[@bearpowder8807]

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[@sam-pnw]

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[@RIM-REAPERZ]

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[@styner3]

I’m 62 and played college basketball from 1980-84, today’s athletes are more athletic because they train harder beginning in high school. When I was in HS we never did any drills you just played basketball. I never did one jumping drill until college and weight lifting wasn’t a big deal like today. Kids are bigger today also so they’re going to be stronger with more training.

[@user1164]

Do you know how crazy it is to be able to athletically do that? Absolutely insane

[@OldManLuffy]

​@@KDjetts17-w9y hes 6'9" they meant obi toppin not wemby

[@KDjetts17-w9y]

@@OldManLuffymy bad I just saw wemby in the thumbnail and just assumed 😅

[@kenw2225]

Looks pretty easy.

[@faflafaflev3899]

I think people could do it before but once or twice a game, nowdays players do it 4-5 times a game, its more of a common thing, dosnt mean they do something olders players couldn't they just do it way more often and is now 'normal' rather then special.

[@user1164]

@@kenw2225 bro you have got to be joking

[@noisepuppet]

Big deal! I used to be able to pluck a dime off the top of the backboard. The only difference is, Obi Toppin does it without a ladder.

[@lookatmeize]

I did the math and Usain Bolt, the unanimous fastest human EVER, had a 2.8% increase in the 100 meter dash compared to 25 years ago. A 4%-7% increase in overall athleticism is an absurd jump. It is 100% fact the average athleticism in the NBA today is BY FAR at an all time high. For sure my favorite NBA content creator but I think this one might have missed the mark a little lol.

[@roscoeorginal]

As someone who is studying Athletic Training, I’d say it’s how we train, recover and continue to develop. Not to mention, medicine in generally is far beyond than what we could imagine. I don’t think it’s necessary athletes bodies are just superior now than before but we have evolved in other areas but I don’t think Basketball hasn’t evolved either. Look at the players of todays frames, they look simply leaner which is helpful in a fast pace era of basketball.

[@texchu8331]

Got that famous German recovery visit too!

[@bimrebeats]

There’s a significant psychological difference between doing something nobody else has ever achieved, doing what a few people can, and doing what every other guy can do.

[@felixronkainen8880]

When looking at Draft Combine stats, there's another important factor to consider: Age. In the 2000s, it was much more common for top prospects to play multiple years in college before declaring for the draft. As a result, the players participating in the combine were older and more physically mature. The difference in the numbers might seem small, but it takes on a whole new dimension when you realize that 19-year olds today are outperforming 21-year olds of the past.

[@jaimelavie4669]

1:30 "no one even batted an eye." except for the guy who was flabbergasted by what he just witnessed.

[@MichelePonte]

Good catch!

[@mrhoneycutter]

Homie is the real mvp, I’m glad someone else caught that

[@hatersbhating]

Which guy?

[@smokingfast]

That's the Do Not Destroy guys from SNL. No joke!

[@DeusExMadara]

​@@hatersbhating redheaded dude with black jacket on, got his hand up and everything.

[@ryanmoeck7826]

I agree with the points you made here. I think there's one other thing that affects this perception though, and that's the rules. Specifically around dribbling and traveling. They've been loosened up to the point that players can take extra steps and carry the ball while they're on the move, making hesitation moves much harder to stop. That combined with the spacing makes it a free walk to the rim and they can elevate. Once in the air, it does become a matter of skill like you said. Players of the past simply weren't allowed to move like this. It's why players look so awful in the 60s because they had to keep their hand on top of the ball or it was a carry, and they weren't allowed a gather step. This started to get phased out in the 80s and that's what made the game begin to be more aesthetically pleasing. The rules have done the true evolution that make the game look more athletic today

[@vcarter86]

it started to be changed more with Iverson. In todays game only very few players are able to dribble without carry and traveling issues. Most of them violate the rules all the time and get away with it.

[@random_name-44]

I had typed out nearly the exact same comment as you and before I posted it, I scrolled down the comments and there you were! 😁 Thank you for saying what needed to be said.

[@Kai-gr6sg]

Old heads always attack the rules. Possibly the only argument they have. But hey, try watching some regular season games, really, the regular games, not the Hardwood Classics. You'll see a lot of carrying and travelling. My father has a collection of games taped in the 90s. I've watched all of them over and over because my father would force me to watch it with him. Players were doing it back then. And the foul rules? Heck, there were more fouls being called before. The games were longer because of those. People be really arguing the rules when the games they saw and remember from the 90s are just highlighted games.

[@OwO-vy2mg]

​​@@Kai-gr6sgThat's a very long yap, but you still missed his point. He says that you are allowed to carry the ball and do a lot of stuff now that would get you the whitsle in the 70-90s, which... you just proved by saying how many fouls were called back then? And speaking of missed calls, they were always a thing, it's called a human factor. Truth is, all these rules changes are documented. It's not even a debate since nba officially recognized gather step. In the 80's, soing a simple euro step was a travel btw

[@Kai-gr6sg]

@@OwO-vy2mg Not really. Because there's literally a lot of movement right now because there's positioneless basketball and perimeter shooting. That means, a lot more dribbles, running, screens, and a more flexible defense. Meaning, defending today is harder than before. I mean, Jrue Holiday could lock up MJ if you put him in the 90s. There are rule changes, but it really is the evolution of athletes that have changed those rules. Why can't old heads understand the skill set is better now and rules have adjusted to that?

[@MikeApollo1]

13:22 Unfortunate Name

[@ulovil]

Thousands of people have the same name and they are okay

[@TreeTrunks-de5wn]

was looking for this comment 🤣

[@johannhurst5734]

There is no comparison between players of today and players of the past because the rules have changed drastically. Traveling, carrying the ball and no hand checking, make even an average player today looking like an all-star.

[@Madterchiseflover]

And said average player would probably be an all star back in the day

[@Q-bazZ]

@@Madterchiseflover No he wouldn't... 😂

[@johannhurst5734]

@@Madterchiseflover not the way they are dribbling, carrying the ball and traveling all the time. The players of today would have 10+ turnovers per game back in the day. Not to mention that the players of today wouldn't be able to handle the hand check defense back in the day. They are too soft now. Load management, first class airplane flying, too much juice now days.

[@halwa9528]

​@@Madterchisefloverbruv Rudy Gobert would be far and away the best player in that bumass era 😂

[@johannhurst5734]

@@halwa9528 Rudy Gobert in an era with Ewing, Robinson, young Shaq, Hakeem, Mutombo and Malone, he wouldn't even make the draft. He would struggle to play in the Euroleague.

[@oxfordbambooshootify]

Toppin was close but he didn't reach the top of the back board. The ball was behind the board and Toppin likely tipped the bottom of the ball which was several inches below the top of the board

[@erickadame3153]

I was bout to type this, ty

[@ADclips3]

yeah but he could touch the top as you have seen he did it very effortestly

[@Dayxh8]

@@ADclips3Yea, he did that with ease lol Dwight Howard did it thinking it was legendary.

[@5lim.0]

But he got up there with ease

[@Forever_Laura]

Ty for your comment. This guy is struggling for new content

[@BucketHatRyRy]

when the world needed him most… he RETURNED

[@ice.man95]

it’s been like a week

[@kennn30]

He uploaded 12 days ago...

[@BucketHatRyRy]

@@kennn30 was still gone

[@Keyinthepocket]

@@ice.man95real ones remember waiting months. Off seasons 😂

[@ice.man95]

@@Keyinthepocket fr they’re acting like this guy used to never upload 😭 spoiled

[@bciwanted2]

Jxmy literally been dropping videos that use facts and charts to explain common sense to people with no respect for basketball. I've been saying this exact point you're making for so long, I'm really happy to see we're likeminded. Coaching and replicating highlights of the past to the point of muscle memory have created the peak of basketball. Because that's common sense, as more elite players enter and mediocre ones exit, as the past teaches the future, innovation happens. It's literally natural selection, evolution of the sport. Not because players in the past didn't have skill or athleticism.

[@bciwanted2]

Look at the assist and foul numbers of 20 years ago compared to now, they're more different than the three point percentage, it's only gone up 1%. But the rate at which they are taken because the game evolves, coaching changes, training changes, and the passing IQ and ability of players is much higher. There's so many reasons that basketball is different, and to be honest just plainly better, that it frustrates me beyond belief when people just point to highlight reels and scoring to say someone played plumbers. The spacing and pace of the past isn't close to the modern day, they were still excellent scorers with less opportunity for easy shots.

[@anirudh_s17]

6:17 I think what's important here is the huge spike in athletic 4's and 5's. A lot of that might be attributed to small ball where guys who were just tall and strong rim protectors were phased out for guys who could guard 1-5.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

Glad you caught that. If there’s an 8% increase but 7% is attributed to 4s & 5s then the answer is ‘Vertical is coveted over pure size, therefore, classic big men would’ve played 30-40 lbs lighter’ And gotten their ass whooped cause you could throw elbows and haymakers after every play. Then kick them when they’re down lol.

[@maxpollente]

what I appreciate most with this channel is how the methods of inquiry is empirical rather than just personal hunches and opinions. the usage of statistics in organizing and interpreting data in a way that supports every arguement makes any researcher gush. oh, and yeah, basketball is a plus.

[@geneolson6618]

We have to remember that at one point it was looked down on to "show off" while scoring. If you scored in a way that was too flashy, you might receive a hard foul from your opposition or some bench time from the coach. Their job was to put the ball in the hoop, not showboat their athleticism.

[@ZaWRLD]

Why was mj known as the best player in the league then

[@Darthtanos]

​​@@ZaWRLDthere a difference between showboating and beating someone in a way that looks spectacular. Showboating is using a flashier dunk than necessary. Mj typically did what was necessary to score, it was just that a lot of situations he chose to score in would result in bad shots for most people... But for him they weren't bad shots. You see the same thing with Steph and some of his shot selection. The appreciating comes after rather than the okay itself.

[@thenamelessone1102]

Back when dunking during warm-ups was a teach 💀

[@dixon4184]

Oh i dont know....maybe because he had the best fundamentals...​@ZaWRLD

[@lotuslife3239]

​@@ZaWRLD90s and 60s are incredibly different lol

[@carasc5]

I would say the biggest difference is the rule set. Players have more freedom to move with the ball nowadays than ever before, from the gather step, to palming the ball, to not having to worry about handchecking, and that there isn't a 7'2" guy sitting in the paint at all times waiting to tackle you midair.

[@FAMIB]

In a game, yes. This entirely. I'm sick of people talking about shooting efficiency while ignoring the defensive rule changes entirely. As if people laying their hands on you or camping in the paint or trying to knock you out of the air every time you go up for a dunk wouldn't make a difference.

[@grantmang]

Exactly.

[@dolamitic]

0.3 is not negligible. As a somewhat tangential example, think about the difference between running 9.7s and 10.0 in the 100m. It’s a huge margin. We are talking about being able to make shots easier by having more time or space to take that shot. You couple that with more players being a scoring option, all players being proficient shooters, and analytics, no wonder scoring has increased.

[@jmsa2760]

Nice video (as always). 2 points that may have been overlooked: 1. Spacing. It I'd touched upon, but not really explored. If you have more space, as attacker or defender, you will have ymthe option to do more. Simple. 2. Better skill is a very good point (would not have thought of that reason myself) but rules help. Lots of drives today would've been called for traveling in the past (either for illegal dribbling or too many steps). That helps the skills.

[@jasonvargas4798]

Glad someone else said it. Kills me how this is never considered.

[@Abekrampe]

100% agree just wrote a comment on in myself before i came looking. The rules might not be that much different but the officating sure is.

[@jasonvargas4798]

@@Abekrampe This is what drives me nuts about proponents of this being such a superior league. People don't consider what a HUGE impact the officiating makes. People who understand ball know that the officiating has created an illusion of a far superior league. But take away these advantages and you would see a league where many players lack fundamentals and the few that know it win the most.

[@phillipschuman4307]

Good points, but the max vertical measurements (and how much they've increased) are not measured in game situations like you're mentioning. They are in isolation, straight measured situations that are exactly the same as when the combine first came into effect (about 1988 or so, if I'm remembering correctly). And comparing just 10 years ago to today.

[@Abekrampe]

@@phillipschuman4307 Which is true, Jimmy however spends a good portion talking about how much better athletes look in games as well.

[@oxfordbambooshootify]

11:27 This was MJ jumping off his right leg which is his off-leg which explains why it looks so awkward. He jumps significantly higher off his left leg as evidenced by his free throw line dunks

[@patricklorei4551]

I was thinking the same thing. His left hand too

[@11bornrich]

But even with those dunks he missed many and had to really stretch to make those. Now you have guys like Zach Lavine doing windmills and eastbay dunks from the same place lol

[@rektz2457]

Excuses. MJ would average 20 points at best in today's era

[@youtubeisassho8834]

​@@rektz2457Weird, when dozens of HOFers claim he'd average double that. 😂

[@beepboop212]

@@youtubeisassho8834 HOF'ers that played in today's game? Or one of the many jealous oldheads?

[@intendedexpression6609]

0:18 it cut away but you can just see O.G's face go like "wtf did he just do??" as he looks at the jumbotron😂

[@PopularNobody]

To say this isn't the most skilled and athletic era ever is a blatant lie.

[@loganmccracken3421]

1:55 “are nba players more athletic than ever”. Dude, Yes. No question. Ask any white guy and istg he’ll tell you “kids these days are different”😭. And they are😭 I watched my 13 year old cousin guard a 6’6” 14 year old in middle school basketball last year and it hit me that there was never any hope for any other kid making it to the league😭 plus think of all of the countries represented. However. I think that the athletic attributes needed to make it to the league have gotten much hugher

[@Kyle-sv8nu]

I mean yeah if they have the same skillset but taller and stronger they will obviously be more productive on the court. However I do agree with the first part of your comment

[@kalumcorbray3933]

When I heard that was what the video was gonna be about I laughed so hard😂

[@loganmccracken3421]

@@kalumcorbray3933 DUDE I DIED

[@loganmccracken3421]

@@Kyle-sv8nu I corrected my comment because I agree with your observation. I was talking about the video with a friend and I got off topic in my head😭

[@DEADLYxScRx]

Man the amount of facts Jimy speaks when talking about skill turning into athleticsm and not the other way around, he just delivers the speech perfectly 👏

[@DEADLYxScRx]

btw the grayson allan comparison to westbrook had me full gasping and basically just proved you're point then and there 😂

[@carelhelpsyou]

One thing which also plays a huge factor is the technology like footwear

[@Iso_SSB]

This is how high FlightReacts thinks he was jumping when the cameras were off in middle school

[@shafayatchowdhury7008]

😂😂

[@corneliusblackwood9014]

God damn bro, you make some truly high quality videos, in every aspect of the word. I (we) appreciate you!

[@Shrkx_]

Not only has NBA athleticism and skill increased over time, but the pool of players from which we DRAFT has grown in its population, giving the league more GOLD to pick from the start!

[@marcelmarshall4240]

Then why is the game so trash and the ratings so low? The game is unwatchable. I have never seen so many bricks. So little defense. I do not get it. If everything is so much better, why is the game so unwatchable..and I am not the only one saying this. Millions and millions of ex-fans are saying so.

[@ComicXanz]

What are they putting in these kids food? Pure creatine? 😂

[@sugarnads]

Skill? Youre shitting me right? They cant dribble legally. They carry. They travel. If they w3re actually reffed properly half of them would be benched in a month.

[@marcelmarshall4240]

@@sugarnads Preach. Jaylen Brown LITERALLY can barely dribble.

[@Shrkx_]

@marcelmarshall4240 The game is historically lifted by a handful of players heavily leaned on by the media. When it's not, ratings drop. This is simply the pattern of the NBA.

[@sohhyuna]

That’s the problem with their logic tho. If freak athletes like MJ had the same level of sports science and support as modern athletes now, what sort of heights could be have achieved? It’s always been about the talent and potential. All time greats are named all time greats because with their level of talent, they can be great any time all time.

[@lamefart]

Also different era. They shittin on Bird and Steve Nash who didn't even practice 3pt shooting drills. Nash had the most 50-40-90 season with 4x. It would've been 5 seasons if he made 1 more freethrow at the start of his streak.😆

[@MrPangsky]

they have all the money jn the world. he choose to gamble, drink and smoke.

[@kurtisnotcurtis9422]

One of my favorite videos in a long time. Been an NBA fan over a decade and always noticed small things like this. I remember the first time I saw Obi eastbay in game and I lost my mind. Then he did it like another 4 times that season. I was like “well, guess that’s a thing that just happens now” lol. Great job

[@Chancho3232]

8:43 I think the claim that 3-8% not being a big deal is a little misleading and inaccurate. You’re talking about some of the greatest athletes in the world making a 5% growth. So these people who are already probably training all the time, have devoted their life to this sport haven’t reached the ceiling and have gotten better ? That’s a big deal

[@denofclips]

The sheer difference in 2000s athleticism and 2020s athleticism is so large it's crazy

[@NRobbi42]

Gerald Green Windmill Oop is still legendary

[@duc2133]

Nope oldheads will tell you fat bums from the 90s would beat these guys up… because they looked bigger(fatter) and wasn’t as conditioned. And apparently the rules allowing people to be more physical means those guys are tougher

[@Spawnamvs]

Not really

[@Taquito_Rat]

Yeah, when you're talking about the best athletes in the world, a 3-8% difference in performance means a huge amount. Regardless if they aren't evolutionary better, they are still better.

[@ScuderiaSkoot]

@@Taquito_Rat the 3-8% is from skill not its not about being better athletes

[@DustinBarker]

this is arguably one of the best KZbin channels on the planet...I dont watch a ton of NBA... but the quality, I gotta give you props. VERY WELL DONE!

[@kennethrines408]

Got the notification that you posted took my break at work to watch ut

[@xnickx97]

My favorite part of this video is Stephen a smith being shown at the same time you said “level headed”

[@gamingweek-mv4mr]

0:30 How the f@#* did he do that

[@user-xl4tp5ef1w]

To get the ball unstuck

[@williamberry7919]

@@user-xl4tp5ef1whe said how, not why

[@FlexBeanbag]

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[@LuBRe06]

Jxmy uploaded. You already know it's gonna be a banger

[@ryanmorris3114]

Great video - couple of extra things. Rest, Rules and Body culture (for lack of a better word)/the 3 point era 1. Rest - MJ apparently missed only 7 games in his entire career not attributed to injury. Lebron and Curry etc, miss that now in one season. I think it's okay to say players/stars are stretched less so potentially compact more of their abilities into fewer games. 2. Rules - Many of the rules now on both ends allow for/open up the possibilities to score. Travel, etc are called far less changing the emphasis on how the game is played. 3. Body culture - look at inside players' bodies from 15-25 years ago vs now. Shaq vs Wemby. Bully ball has gone out the window and because of the proliferation of the 3-point line, the spreading of the court and the rule changes to accommodate/encourage this people like Giannis can now thrive and explode on many plays.

[@Cardb33]

Zach Edey gives me this feeling like he's going to be one of those 17-19 PPG/11+ RPG/2+ BPG guys for more than a decade. I don't know what it is about him I just feel like he's going to have a very long consistent career and be a steal of a draft pick.

[@lollipop1894]

My intuition is that they are not better athletes but that they just have better sports, science, resources, technology, etc. I mean, even just the fact that we have youtube and Google gives us twice the advantages that we have 20 years ago. I mean, with the right combination of natural ability, genetics, resources, and drive. It is so much easier than it used to be to make it big.

[@kenw2225]

Yea it's really preposterous. 20 years is not nearly enough time for a marked increase in athleticism. For skills? Sure. But not athleticism.

[@frankpagel39]

For Comparison: First man under 10 seconds in 100m: Jim Hines in 1968 Todays Record: Usain Bolt 9,58 seconds in 2009 (But Usain was an alien, the other best runner are about 9,70 seconds) It has needed 40 years to improve the record by 4% So I think the 3-8% improvement in 25 years of NBA is really impressive.

[@snxstar]

4-7% is insane, we are talking about people already at the top of their game

[@ExplorersXRotmg]

My thought during this whole video as well. When you're at the top level of athletic performance even marginal 1-2% differences here and there make drastic changes. It's the difference in the opponent sinking a 3 and you getting a fingertip on the ball, the difference in you getting that charge call or a blocking foul from hitting the spot faster, etc. When you're doing thousands of individual actions that all contribute to winning. 1-2% repeated over and over and over adds up. And we're talking about 4-7% here in the video which is major

[@viktorianas]

@@ExplorersXRotmg it's on AVERAGE, the top athletes like MJ still would be the top athlete today.

[@ItsMidasProductions]

@@viktorianasnobody was saying anything against this. Just saying that the average elite athlete being 3-8% better/more athletic is not a petty distinguishment

[@viktorianas]

@@ItsMidasProductions yes, it's rather significant from a statistical standpoint, being faster even 1% means a lot in a fast-break plays especially, more speed translates into higher jumps, etc.

[@uptodatenba]

But athleticism also has to do with physical build. Take me, a 6' 2" white kid with a 35ish inch vert and dunking with relative ease compared to someone with the exact same vert as me but 6'6", that person who is 4 inches taller than me is going to seem much much more athletic, because they can seemingly get higher, due to being taller, bigger wingspan, etc. I think it has just as much to do with the league getting simultaneously taller across all positions as that 3-8% growth and the newfound skills that are used to create the opportunities to show off that athleticism. Just a thought

[@josephdanner773]

It's actually a blend of the two... The average height has actually decreased over the past 30 years. Guards got slightly taller (what you were saying about having a few more inches of reach and length) and bigs getting smaller (more bouncy quick and skilled). Adding 3 inches since 2000 and probably 5-7 since 1980...plus skills and shooting the cumulative gains are massive.

[@MFWb00bi3s]

From now on, ANY time i see the skill vs talent debate, I'm s going to link this transcendent masterpiece and Irish goodbye. bless you for this

[@rayneozier]

4:21 as a Hornets fan I can tell you, don’t sleep on Brandon Miller’s athleticism. He catches bodies on the regular

[@j.27-d6o]

Some of the guys he's saying aint high flyers got me wondering if he be watching ball fr😂

[@RunzeYao]

3:04 end of ad

[@tomscurlock3]

Speaking as an old man, I am 56. It is not just optimization, but the experience. When I was a kid, Dr. J didn't dribble left handed and was considered incredible. Now everyone has incredible handles with both hands. That is because the game evolved and what was required evolved. I was part of a study at North Central College in Illinois that measured my jumping ability at 14 years old. I was a 20 ft. long jumper with a 40 in. vertical leap. At 15 I could slam dunk; I was 5'4" and my vertical leap was about 48". When we played ball we did what we saw on television. When someone did something new, we tried to do that and we tried to make up something new. It is just like knowledge, in 1900 we didn't have quantum theory or airplanes, now a bunch of countries have an accelerator and a space program. One generation of players builds on the skills of the prior generation. The biggest difference is that in 1984 there was only one Michael Jordan, now about half of the players in the NBA can do most of what Jordan did. However, the human body has limits. I chased Bob Beamon's long jump record and at 16 I was could long jump about 25 or 26 feet in the Junior Olympics, nobody will break his record. Today, even with optimization, there are limits to what athletes can do.

[@kadenmoss8904]

On the graph at 7:18 you make a point that all the positions are closer together in athleticism than they were 20 years ago, but you ignore the fact that they there also very separated in the last two years. Why?

[@james6247]

That’s a very fair point, maybe just the rapid increase in positionless basketball the past two seasons? I feel like now more than ever teams are experimenting. Herb Jones at centre, etc.

[@4olufade]

So "back in the day" is 25 years ago? It is important that we demarcate the cutoff, so that this conversation can make any sense.

[@animecity9678]

So what's back in the day to you? 90 years?

[@kadenmoss8904]

He could only go back so far as there was data

[@kionposhtkoohi5069]

jimmy kept me locked into the vid the entire 20 ish mins, he’s been doing this for the past couple years, jimmy never misses

[@snipergangdrob5940]

this better be an Onyeka Okongwu vid

[@slimerretayy]

How did you make his name searchable

[@retrictumrectus1010]

​@@slimerretayy i think it is a youtube thing. kinda funny though that it went missing after i tried to show the replies.

[@slimerretayy]

@@retrictumrectus1010 dang yea i didn’t even notice it went away. It reminded me of tik tok with the blue search icon

[@deh_maestro6223]

How is this man not on ESPN yet? Get this man a slot, pair it with Sport Science or something, damn💯🔥

[@jonanderson4474]

If he gets more consistent with uploads and does ads right, he'd probably make more chillin here.

[@orionfell]

unless they give him a crazy salary he makes more promoting gambling on youtube

[@napoberto]

Hey JImmy, this has become one of my favorites videos about NBA data analysis. You have a such a good ability to explain complex data that makes me jealous. keep on!

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[@Tsuki02232]

15:50 i know flight is going to rage when he sees this 💀

[@RickDiggityTick]

Jimmy. Long term fan, so grateful to watch you rise.

[@luketyluke]

hate to say it but the bottom of that ball was a good 6-8 inches below the top of the backboard.

[@KirilDimitrov86]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@vcarter86]

Just like it wasnt the same block by Malik Monk like Jordan's one. Seriously Jimmy went really delusional on that one. I mean WTF? how can anybody see that as "the same exact block"?

[@NC6629-w]

Another reason why we see this increase in athleticism is the media. These athletic freaks get highlighted and recruited whereas 25+ years ago some freakishly athletic people would go unnoticed. For example if we never had video of Giannis when he played in Europe we would’ve never known about him.

[@yanncourtel8538]

That's a masterpiece of a video. Very well narrated. It actually is bigger than just basketball... I can see it in other sports as well. Thank you so much!

[@UOHCUNY]

18:29 that thang was flying

[@Xen2112]

Ayoo😂

[@PraiseIveys]

I’m convinced. NBA players are superhero’s…

[@DylanHaugen23]

Toppin touched the bottom of a ball that wasn’t even all the way up the backboard. That was probably a 12’2”-12-4” touch or lower

[@chipelchipgandof7314]

Amazing video. Just watched the entire thing.

[@shippoprecordings]

I believe you're really underselling how significant a 3-8% difference is, regardless of if it's due to player optimization or not. Statistically, even a 1-2% change is relatively big, but knowing there is a near 10% increase is astonishing.

[@vcarter86]

the 3-8% avg is 5.5% which is nowhere near 10%. Stop the exaggeration.

[@bronsonlarrat5339]

Telling him he’s underselling and then immediately over exaggerating is hilarious

[@AD-df5tm]

The Please Dont Destroy guys just randomly courtside at 1:30 😂

[@FPMBliff]

Appreciate you jimmy since I was in elementary. When I’m in the league they will remember your breakdowns I promise.

[@andrewcook1246]

I 100% believe Wilt could do it. He was 7'1 and a track and field star. Oh and he had a 7'8" wingspan with an alleged 48inch vertical. Theres this kid who's 6'10 with mad hops in IG I think he played college ball who reached the top of the backboard. No doubt most who say they can are full of it but certainly a few extreme specimens can

[@shafayatchowdhury7008]

Oh yeah the 6’10 guy with a 47 in vert

[@andrewcook1246]

@@shafayatchowdhury7008 kaodirichi or something

[@babycakessr.8704]

Wilt never had a 48 inch vertical. He was 275 lbs and gradually would put on more weight throughout his career. He was too heavy to be able to get that high off the ground. At best his max vertical was around 38 to 40 inches most likely.

[@raphaelweber8007]

The video is well build with great data and a good analysis. Love from france 🙌

[@HoopCity23]

The shoes play a big part as well

[@Teatowelman-u7c]

Lol

[@higuys6523]

I think it’s because players today saw players of the past and started trying what they do at a young age cause it was shocking. Players back then didn’t do moves we see today cause they didn’t know they were possible so they never attempted them that much. It’s a thing about training

[@vfgoditachyyy8446]

I feel like the statistical increases in athleticism are being played down A LOT. Those are the BEST of the BEST, an increase of 8% in the average vertical over just 20 years is A LOT. A 4% increase in the 2 quarter sprint is a LOT, especially in such super short sprint, which obviously makes the room for improvement smaller. A 4% increase in the 40 yard dash for example is the difference between a top 5 40 yard dash in nfl history and the 40 yard time from your average wide receiver (and i ignored here that a 4% increase in the 2 quarter usually equates to probably like a 6% increase in a 40 yard dash, since its 33% longer). For top Athletes that are already so CLOSE to PERFECTION these "small" increases are surprisingly HUGE, especially considering that that change happened over just the last 20 years and i didnt even touch on how an increase in the average usually also means an increase in outliers, which we can see today. And i think it´s weird that you discredit this increase even further than you already did, by saying that it´s "just" because of better nutrition, training and overall knowledge, bro... HUMANS DONT EVOLVE IN 20 YEARS OFC THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE REASONS AND NO ONE ON EARTH THOUGHT OTHERWISE. Another little example to show you how big those small improvements actually are: Steph curry recorded a max vertical of 36.5 inches and an increase of "just" 8% in that would make him, yup... STEPH CURRY WITH A 40 INCH VERTICAL.🤣

[@gortgaming2960]

Ayo who said that quote 13:30

[@glitteredeye]

18:29 you're welcome boys

[@Ryan____Z]

It’s we as a species that are evolving , modern training , modern facilities , modern equipment. Give Jordan what we have now and he would be a freak

[@robertflores3950]

The 4 to 7 percent increase in athleticism is more visually appealing to watch, but the constant training also leads to more injuries imo.

[@khkhkhkhkh0]

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