What Do Other Drummers Think Of John Bonham? amzn.to/45QR5Y5
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@DSM94 ай бұрын
Played the drums for years. Massive fan of Bonham, Peart, Moon, Copeland, Cobham, Gadd, and dozens of others. To be honest, Baker was never on my radar - nor on the radar of other drummers I know.
@cobraninetysix38835 ай бұрын
Please gimme a break, couldn’t swing? Just listen to the raw drum track on Whole Lotta Love. Sounds like a freight train at a steady 65 MPH, amazing groove. Or no quarter, great groove. Bonzo over baker any day!💥
@alexgolovchenko37914 ай бұрын
Baker really does come off as an arrogant jerk. He should have been gracious and just said that John was a great musician.😢
@jessewolf76494 ай бұрын
Well, you can’t dance to Zeppelin. And in that respect he doesn’t swing. Unlike his hero Krupa. For that matter for rock including the Roll, it’s Charlie Watts, triplets be damned. BTW I saw the Stones up close in ‘66 and everyone was shaking their ass. I saw Zep up close 3 years later and everyone was banging their heads. Nothing wrong with that, in fact Z was phenomenal, but they didn’t swing.
@johnspinelli61702 ай бұрын
@@alexgolovchenko3791 Being knocked off the top spot is a tough pill to swallow, apparently. His dismissal of Bonham is laughable.
@eclecticearАй бұрын
@@johnspinelli6170 The only way Ginger Baker "wins," is that he outlived Bonzo and Moonie. One can hear soft fills and not just fast and strong hits throughout all of Led Zeppelin songs. Ginger Baker was a jerk then, and always.
@williamtaylor93683 ай бұрын
Ginger Baker couldn't hold Bonzo's jock.......
@Andrus_drumsАй бұрын
Ginger really good yes but way too opinionated and an asshole
@leslieperkins27225 ай бұрын
If John were alive he wouldn’t care what other drummers said about him.
@wassupnomesayin5 ай бұрын
Agreed. I was going to comment "Who cares what other drummers think?" I would be interested in Neil Peart's opinion though. I'm sure John was a hugh influence.
@leslieperkins27225 ай бұрын
@@wassupnomesayin Ginger Baker from Cream is another. I love a lot of other bands but no one compares to John Bonham as a drummer.
@sicotshit70685 ай бұрын
@@leslieperkins2722Ginger Baker needs to put others down, to boost his own ego, that alone makes Bonham a million times better. Bonham didn’t need to put others down, just like Page didn’t either. If you need to toot your own horn, you have nothing to toot about.
@bigdave13025 ай бұрын
Because he'd be too pissed to care.[drunk.]
@traviswoodall65475 ай бұрын
Ginger Baker’s jealousy toward his peers was a pathetic weakness. Bonham played circles around that asshole.
@josephmanzuni85935 ай бұрын
Best drummer in the world.
@alexgolovchenko37914 ай бұрын
Bill Ward of Black Sabbath spoke very highly of John. Bill called John a true musician and referred to himself as more of a 'reactionary drummer'. I think Bill felt that John was better than him but it never stopped Ward from achieving greatness. In much the same way that Bill was Black Sabbath, John was Led Zeppelin and their music must be taken in that context.🎼🥁🎹
@BEYEaZMENA2 ай бұрын
john bonham patril urcite pocas svojho zivota,k najlepsim drummerom,hoci on to o sebe netvrdil,bicie ovladal bravurne,bol to jednoducho povedane,,exstra super drummer,,
@mikeduquesne36303 ай бұрын
Ginger couldn’t carry Bonzo’s gear
@NickThunnda4 ай бұрын
John Bonham was a heavy swinger. My favourite.
@DP-wi6hm5 ай бұрын
There is & will always be, one Bonzo. There was no Zeppelin, after Johns passing. Other pretentious drummers can say what they want, it's just opinion. They're great, in their own right. But, when you start comparing styles & unique individuality , we are all different. The combination of funky solid groove beats & powerful, memorable fills, there is only one. John Henry Bonham will always be my favorite drummer. Just one mans opinion.
@traviswoodall65475 ай бұрын
Carmine Appice has spent three decades taking credit for every single lick, opportunity and bit of success Bonham ever had. The guy is an insufferable humble-bragging dullard.
@deekay64112 ай бұрын
i agree
@jaakkot96612 ай бұрын
Exaxtly. What an insecure man.
@deekay64112 ай бұрын
ginger baker is a goof
@jskypercussion3 ай бұрын
Moby Dick How The West Was Won live is the Bonham's best ever recorded drum solo.
@BEYEaZMENA4 ай бұрын
john bonham patril za svojho zivota medzi najlepsich drummerov na tomto svete,bol bubenikom v najslavnejsej rockovej skupine 70 rokov,a ktory zomrel tragicky prilis mladi,mal len 32 rokov,ale stacilo aby sa jeho meno zapisalo do nesmrtelnej historie,velikanov rockovej hudby.
@Mezzie19575 ай бұрын
Awesomeness
@rhythmista77074 ай бұрын
Imagine the potential he would've had if alcoholism didn't destroy his life ?
@davideverett12222 ай бұрын
Baker and his admirers can say whatever they want. To an actual drummer like myself, all I hear is blah, blah, blah. The fact remains that, as a drummer, I can tell you without question that Baker NEVER PLAYED A SINGLE LICK that I was unable to play. The most basic, rudimentary player ever. He can take his insults and shove them.
@albymeltz33175 ай бұрын
Baker brilliantly but hates everyone. Richard’s jealous that zeppelin soared past them. Never got the Stones although they are great anyone listen to a Richard’s solo nothing special
@MelinaBilotti5 ай бұрын
Please Keith Please
@Salopian_mumblesАй бұрын
Anyone who thinks John Bonham is even in the same league as Ginger Baker doesn't know what they are talking about. I've been playing the drums for 32 years and I was classically trained which I later found to be a hindrance as a classically trained musician is programmed against improvisation and improvisation is something that Ginger and Bonham had in bucket loads. Both were masters of the rudements that all drummers know but not many can totally master and understand. But Ginger wasn't just a skillful drummer; Ginger understood 'Time' and I mean he properly understood it. Listen to the time signatures of many cream records, then think about how they would have sounded if they were played in standard 4:4 time which is how Jack Bruce wrote them, it was Gingers knowledge of time which resulted in the huge heavy sound that cream was famous for. Ginger was a Jazz musician who understands musical arrangements and Bonham was just an amazing drummer. Bakers knowledge of time is what sets them apart.
@grahamblack19615 ай бұрын
Bonham wasn't a guy to mess with. Journalists who were allowed backstage at Zeppelin concerts were told not to talk to the band members unless the band members talk first. They were also told, for their own personal safety, to never make eye contact with John Bonham
@DP-wi6hm5 ай бұрын
Great !!
@boneheded28194 ай бұрын
Ginger took himself and drumming way too serious. John showed the world that having fun playing drums is the most important aspect of playing. I wish this never had happened. Very few drummers bring me to tears and John is one of them, Gavin Harrison being the second.
@patrikmattsson401425 күн бұрын
It seems like even Clapton was deluded when it comes to Bonham.
@ronjon53865 ай бұрын
Ginger has always been a pompous guy. John could rock with the best of them. Yes he was heavy handed but that’s what the music called for. His shuffles were great and we all know shuffles are one of the hardest techniques to master on the drums.
@EamonnJ35 ай бұрын
Baker was en ego- centric and jealous dude. As Page himself said / to paraphrase ‘ I don’t get what Ginger was saying. John was all about swing’ Bonham is all about swing and groove. GOAT
@cwinsten15 ай бұрын
What swing?
4 ай бұрын
John never drank before a concert. Probably 1 of the few that abstained before.
@rhythmista77074 ай бұрын
Lol ! You must be senile
@grahamjeffries45664 ай бұрын
No lars
@robertwheatley24715 ай бұрын
1:10 ... Carmine A PIECE??? So is this more AI generated bullcr@p instead of narration by an actual human???....
@MrKiaoraboy5 ай бұрын
Carmine Hairpiece 😂
@peterwatts53615 ай бұрын
Without Carmine Appice there is no JB !!!
@ellebrook34134 ай бұрын
Hey there, Carmine!
@Taterhole2 ай бұрын
Ginger Baker…… go bake some gingerbread.
@javier35853 ай бұрын
Keith Moon the first!
@nickytaylor41234 ай бұрын
Father of rock drumming. That would be Ringo Starr.
@emersonkessler56942 ай бұрын
Tá louco ? Só colcheia
@robertromero292812 күн бұрын
Of course he's heavy handed Keith Richards. Your just a garage band who's Charlie Watts doing a drum solo didn't exist. Led Zeppelin is Rock n Roll to Heavy Medal. Your good but There Hammer Of The God's....see ya
@frankartale10264 ай бұрын
Ginger is the most overrated drummer. I think he is terrible. Ian paice is a great drummer
@williamsolomon16222 ай бұрын
Wrong
@elbuchito29072 ай бұрын
Ginger was phenomenal but just a bit of an ash hole. I think Bonham was better. Paice was great as well.
@biacampbell67625 күн бұрын
Agreed Ian Paice is a great drummer Deep Purple without him wouldn’t be the same.
@ursirius48784 ай бұрын
I like Ginger Baker but C'mon, his evaluation of other drummers are not to be taken seriously. Bonham had the primal rhythm that you can't teach. Keith Moon was as raw and intuitive as they come. But the winner is John "BONZO" Bonham hands down.
@davidwalker50544 ай бұрын
it's not important what other Drummers think of John Bonham what is important is what his millions of fans think
@damienhenning5415 ай бұрын
I love you Ginger Baker, but sadly, Bonham was a better drummer than you. RIP Ginger RIP Bonzo
@leelitif71875 ай бұрын
john henry bonham was a spontaneous powerful diverse drummer listen to many led zeppelin bootlegs and you can see how outstanding he was and why led zeppelin couldn.t continue without him
@davidgreene767625 күн бұрын
i have to believe that richards wish he could retract this video.
@hailmaryrecordings82554 ай бұрын
I’m 54 & music is my life. If I had to pick one album to have on a desert island, I’d take “Houses of the Holy” by Led Zeppelin.
@CarloTurner-vl7rl4 ай бұрын
Eric Clapton defending Ginger Pubes ??? The same Eric Claptrap who walked out of a Jimi Hendrix Gig bcos he felt Inferior ??? .
@danieldowney26784 ай бұрын
was Ginger Baker serious?? he couldn't have been. I've watched both of them many times and I have never ever seen Ginger Baker perform like Bonzo! not even close and Ginger was great! but Bonzo was on another planet and he wouldn't have cared what anyone said about him but I truly believe Ginger was jealous of Bonzo. I'm not saying Bonzo is the greatest drummer of all time that's up to you to decide for yourself but he was one of them that's for sure
@danabogue18042 ай бұрын
When the Levee breaks was the first song I learned on the Drums! He's the reason I began Drumming! I had a SONOR kit!
@spilleradam5 ай бұрын
Ginger Baker was a very good drummer but he was an arrogant Fu**, he was more technical than John Bonham, but ginger Baker couldn’t replace John Bonham in Led zeppelin, for me John Bonham was the best.
@benjaminglover15704 ай бұрын
He was the best British rock drummer closely followed by Mick Tucker.
@millinglumberforwoodworkin696617 күн бұрын
Baker and Clapton were so full of themselves. Zeppelin had amazing drive and groove that Baker and Clapton wish they could reproduce just 1% of.
@jamesdelcol3701Ай бұрын
Ginger Baker said "John Bonham had a lot of technique, but he couldn't swing a bag of shit". Ginger was a cantankerous old man when he said that and we all know John was just as good as Ginger Baker and Mr. Baker was a little jealous of John Bonham and Led Zeppelin.
@eddierivera18605 ай бұрын
Hell no! The father Mr.backbeat EARL PALMER!!!!!!!!!
@johnanthonycafe29935 ай бұрын
Tell us what you really think Ginger. As far as swing in Rock goes Phil Rudd from AC/DC has it. It’s simple but not easy.
@DP-wi6hm5 ай бұрын
You get it ! Thats a great example.
@jeremywhakarau24034 ай бұрын
Phil couldn't swing balls
@ezsmith37655 ай бұрын
Just think... only IF we were all more intelligent then we’d all like Ginger Baker more than we like Bonham.
@johnhoran98405 ай бұрын
Ginger Baker and Keith Moon both came along several years earlier and both were better.
@skyemoz65595 ай бұрын
Give me a break 🫣
@johnhoran98405 ай бұрын
@@skyemoz6559 Yeah, 'cuz Bonham was better than Neil Peart!! Spare us, kid. Most of us have heard thousands of albums, and John Bonham was a pounder who kept good time, nothing more.
@skyemoz65595 ай бұрын
@@johnhoran9840 I love Rush but Neil was kinda one dimensional. Actually 58 bud. Seen Rush a few times. Neil really couldnt ad lib and definitely had problem doing anything jazz related. Even Neil said that. He was a compositional drummer.
@johnhoran98405 ай бұрын
@@skyemoz6559 I used Neil as one example, my favorite drummer is actually Bill Bruford. I don't dislike Zeppelin, but there are better heavy rock drummers from the classic era.
@nickattanasoff77335 ай бұрын
John Henry Bonham!!!
@Johnpappas-o1y29 күн бұрын
As a drummer since 1965 … it pains me to hear suck arrogant comments from what I’d consider great drummers of my time talk shit on JB …..! I get it though .., confidence is sometimes arrogance..! We lost JB too early to Alcoholism as well as so many other fantastic musicians…! “Stay Sober y’all”…. Be well …🦅
@UXB-p5u3 ай бұрын
You with your bizarre Chaplin picture have definitely GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME!!...Hope you like surprises you utter 🛎🔚
@Msmith-yd7bzАй бұрын
I guess he never had a drum lesson,no one knows who showed him how to hold the sticks or try to play few simple roles?
@F.S.111Ай бұрын
One my favs Alex VH loved him.
@tangancicuaroАй бұрын
Ginger who????
@broeheemed325 ай бұрын
"LOL" at Ginger Baker. Today, you can buy a Ludwig 'John Bonham" Vistalite kit and a Paiste "John Bonham" cymbal pack. Who makes one for Baker? Who would want one? Dude is all kinds of envious.
@neebinmakwah3495 ай бұрын
They're both deceased👌
@colinstock3255 ай бұрын
You do know that Ginger Baker’s roots are in Jazz and not rock, despite being a member of Cream. So comparing rock drummers to Jazz drummers is pointless. The techniques are different. Jack Bruce always stated that Cream was essentially a Jazz band, Most of these iconic drummers of the time will cite Buddy Rich as the best drummer.
@edjones21995 ай бұрын
Buddy Rich wouldn’t makea wort on a fleas ass compared to the drummers of today
@cwinsten15 ай бұрын
@@colinstock325Then ignorant people should stop posting that fat ass bonham is the greatest drummer ever. Not even top ten. Tony Williams or Billy Cobham were always superior!
@jessewolf76494 ай бұрын
Father? Didn’t even come onto the global scene till January ‘69. Maybe DJ Fontana from ‘54 or Watts from ‘62.
@GaryClark-qy5yy3 ай бұрын
I thought the father was Ian Paice.
@oxouk5 ай бұрын
The overwhelming amount of drummers you talk to will say Bonham was a huge influence on their playing or desire to play. far less will say Ginger. Facts.
@jons38085 ай бұрын
They were both huge influences on me and both shinned in different ways. Ginger was an angry nutter though and I’ve never understood his criticism of Bonham. Keith Richard’s on the other hand is just a jealous and unremarkable musician in my opinion.
@kippsguitar65394 ай бұрын
@@jons3808never understood? It's pure impotent jealousy
@jons38084 ай бұрын
I always 0:02 figured Ginger didn’t have anything to be jealous about. But he was a cantankerous dude so I guess it’s to be expected
@CarloTurner-vl7rl4 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
@jeremywanner45265 ай бұрын
Best band ever
@sreyna30005 ай бұрын
This myth that JB is the god of drumming has to stop….its a myth that has over grown his actual gifts .
@ezsmith37655 ай бұрын
Ginger ?? 🚬 👨🏻🦰??? Thought you were dead. GO AWAY JEEN-JAH
@micko56645 ай бұрын
If enough people THINK he is a god of drumming, then that’s good enough. More importantly it’s not how technically good you are but you play what people want to hear or play themselves.
@jeremywanner45265 ай бұрын
That purely subjective
@leewainwright35265 ай бұрын
talking out your back side JB was way up there with the best of them
@danieldowney26784 ай бұрын
HUH!🤔
@MelinaBilotti5 ай бұрын
He was a BEAST
@wbrockstar95505 ай бұрын
To me,,Bonham isn't the best rock drummer in the world,however he's definitely in my top five.His use of only one bass drum to do the fills he does,that normally require two bass drums or one bass drum with a double pedal,is likely one of his most notable assets.
@frankieRandle87795 ай бұрын
Ginger is spot on. Bonham was a plenty good rockin tonight pub drummer who got lucky when he landed the Zep gig, without them he would have worked Butlins/cruise ships. It’s like me saying McCartney was a great bass player, popular yes, but great? mmmmm
@kippsguitar65394 ай бұрын
Oh dear oh dear
@danieldowney26784 ай бұрын
Good grief!
@CarloTurner-vl7rl4 ай бұрын
TiT .
@CarloTurner-vl7rl4 ай бұрын
Am i gonna take Jimmy Pages opinion over your’s ? Mmmm 🤔
@frankieRandle87794 ай бұрын
@@CarloTurner-vl7rl if I was jimmy page I would have chosen Bonham as drummer because he was perfect for that band, that sound, my point is that he was limited technically. Do you think he spent a lot of time on rudiments, on theory? I dont. If he wasn’t in Zeppelin you would never have heard of him purely because of his drumming.
@timothyslaughter4765 ай бұрын
On the how the west was won compilation which is amazing theres a two minute thing and its John Henry doing a soundcheck and he sits down, no warmup and just does this 30 second long blitz not a solo but just this unbelievable assault on the drums, then gets up and walks off like its nothing. Lots of unbelievable drummers but seriously. Miss that dude.