After the final stage of the Tour of Missouri, I just walked through the team parking lot and shopped for a new bike. Ended up with Canadian Cam Evans’ Kuota TT bike from Team Ouch. Later traded it for a cello. I also bought Scott Fortner’s Trek 5500 from Saturn in 94 after talking with their mechanic at the old Downers Grove race.
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
hahaha a cello?
@JamieSmith-fz2mz11 ай бұрын
I'm just as bad on it as I was the bike. @@worstretirementever
@billkallas176211 ай бұрын
After Motorola folded, they paid off the mechanics with bike stuff. They came around Midwest races, and hawked product. I bought some tub race wheels from the guy that didn't have any wear on them. All of them had Motorola stickers on them. He was also selling a few "Team" frames.
@mortigard11 ай бұрын
I had a friend that use to sell her old toenail clippings. I'm sure there is a market for your old bike bibs, especially if you haven't washed them after your last use.
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
and here I am just throwing my toenail clippings away like a sucker
@christinearbogast675111 ай бұрын
😂😂😂The helmet cracks me up! I absolutely love your humour and fun approach to serious stuff. 😂♥️
@Matthew-ez4ze11 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 Pinarello that has become my “rain bike.” I have ridden this carbon-frame beauty HARD over the years, and over-maintained it as well. It still rides like a brand new bike.
@travelinalaskan11 ай бұрын
That was a fun video! I've always wanted pro used kit and now I know it's possible to get my hands on someday.
@brockjennings11 ай бұрын
I am ancient enough to remember a young Christian Vande Velde selling a set of wheels on the Rec/Bicycle/For Sale on the Usenet forum. He was probably a promising young junior back then.
@hobmarg11 ай бұрын
Now that is oldschool, Usenet buy and sell!
@jeffking61575 ай бұрын
I like Phil a lot. Only know him from this channel but he comes across as very bright and charismatic. This is very fresh content that super interesting.
@febigblockford362511 ай бұрын
My old Diamondback road bike says P. Gaimon on the fork tube. Thought about chatting you up about it at the Glen last year, but there were miles to be ridden and I rolled right past.
@chuckfrizzell866811 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil. I recall back in the days of the Coors Classic Stage race I saw for sale several clothing items that were “used” from Andy Hampsten and Davis Phinney and other big name riders of the late 1980’s. I wondered how the vendor got his hands on all the gear. Have a great 2024.
@ImGlossy6311 ай бұрын
I bought a used training bike from a guy on a LiveStrong developmental team maybe 13 years ago. All top level specs and it was great to have and was actually kept up very nicely and a good price too.
@jgrefrath11 ай бұрын
Good fun honest take on things. Keep them coming!
@DavidLaburglier11 ай бұрын
I may have seen somebody angrily rally a Bissell Pinarello road bike through the local mountain bike trails before returning to Bissell, after an unhappy season (not making 45k, either)
@goldenretriever626111 ай бұрын
A guy from my local ride rode for USPS and Telecom.a bunch of guys on the ride we're riding his old bikes and wearing his old kits.
@isitrachelorj395311 ай бұрын
Gotta have that "special hookup", the team manager. Buy all my bikes from a pro team, save myself about 60-70% - as well as getting my hands on the newest and best stuff. Used frame/Used grouppo - new cassettes, rotors, pads, tape, tires and chains. What's not to love? KARMA BABY - I did this guy some solids when he was a kid riding his mtb at a "national" level.
@rolandcolavizza536811 ай бұрын
wow this was actually really interesting , so i need to hang around the team bus with some cash in hand at the end of the season and go looking for the mechanic...
@fernandoblanco147111 ай бұрын
Excelent video Phil!
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jbaillie11 ай бұрын
Not the point at all but your Weiss watch is the bit of kit I envy the most and it isn't close.
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
haha good eye!
@dhengen11 ай бұрын
Cool video. Interesting to hear about that stuff. I can't blame pro's for selling stuff when the salaries are so low.
@chrisridesbicycles11 ай бұрын
Question on top: Who looks after your training bike as a pro when let‘s say your gears are off or your brakes need a bleed? Will you fix it yourself? Can you call up a team mechanic to visit you? Do you just pass by the service course on your next long ride?
@JC-pt2tw11 ай бұрын
This is something I'd like to know tii
@veganpotterthevegan11 ай бұрын
Phil didn't know disc brakes existed back then
@El_JayBubby11 ай бұрын
You fix it yourself, or take it to a local bike shop. I'm sure if you needed a new and more expensive part like a crank set the team would send you it, but some things you would probably replace yourself. You might even get it for free from LBS cause they want to build that relationship with a pro rider or you already have it cause you grew up there....
@eric10607111 ай бұрын
The "new" guy in the video is awesome
@JoshuaTootell11 ай бұрын
I own a pro bike with a legitimate race win. Though technically, just the frame now. I stripped the parts for a different frame after a year. Got a pretty good deal for it from Pinkbike, and used social media to contact the actual pro seller to verify it was real 😂
@sbccbc747111 ай бұрын
Whose frame was this?
@christinearbogast675111 ай бұрын
Im hoping yo see you at one of your GFondos, and have you sign my Jukebox speed suit.🥰
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
Well you know I’ll be there!
@SVAL_537111 ай бұрын
Lol man your humor is spot on.
@trev-trev11 ай бұрын
Phil, could you make a vid about your amateur and pro career? I only ask because I have no clue what you’re talking about when you reference the embarrassment in this vid. I’m curious about the behind the curtain of the pro peloton.
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
I left that all in a book and would rather not bring myself into it again. Draft Animals is the best thing I've ever done if you enjoy any of my content
@trev-trev11 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever respect 🫡 I’ll read it. Which book purchase option gives you the biggest cut?
@Anothaday67611 ай бұрын
Well legion of Los Angeles been selling their bike frames on eBay and offer up
@sbccbc747111 ай бұрын
If they weren't ex-pro bikes, just merely second-hand bikes, how much cheaper would they cost (identical spec)?
@TarmacSkin10 ай бұрын
Wasn’t that how The Pro’s Closet started?
@JMcLeodKC71111 ай бұрын
I vote that Phil names backward helmet guy “Lance”. I bet Lance could not even get a KOM up a speed bump
@6ft8incyclist11 ай бұрын
Not many pro bikes would fit me.. Then Coner Dunn. I kept emailing. His pro teams and hitting them up on twitter if his bikes was ever available. I would love to have one…My stable. Has no. Ex pro bike in it..
@zalmylavi835111 ай бұрын
Hi! Huge fan here! Do you wanna come out to Baltimore for a beautiful charity ride in July? It's a century on July 21st
@PedroLopez-zw5gz11 ай бұрын
Nice ✌️
@thewisconsingravelcyclist11 ай бұрын
Youve done an MTB race... When do we get to see a gravel race?
Can I get a signed jersey from the shop? Not sure if you did UK delivery
@evanharriman535211 ай бұрын
My life goal is to own another pit bull, and an old one at that! My last pitty was black with the sweetest white hairs coming in on her face. I love that every single pit bull has the exact same personality: cuddly, whiny, grumpy, silly, needs a blanket, endlessly affectionate
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
It’s funny Emily got Nala as a tiny pup and always thought she was a pit. Liked her so much we adopted Creature from Angel City pits. Got Nala tested and she’s mastiff and bulldog. No pit whatsoever
@janetw901611 ай бұрын
♥ the Nala content!
@jaybobd11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure you can really call $2,000 a year "salary." That's maaaybe coffee money for the year. and we're talking McDonald's coffee. None of that high falootin' Starbucks stuff.
@troycollett854011 ай бұрын
Back then pros also had day jobs
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
They had us racing 60-70 days a year. No one I had know had a day job. Maybe in the offseason. Most of it was mom and dad, generous strangers, and side hustles like coaching
@troycollett854011 ай бұрын
@@worstretirementever in the net zero team doco 1 rider said his salary was $10k so he needed a day job lol
@kenschwarz805711 ай бұрын
You gonna eat those fries?
@BPM-xh4yu11 ай бұрын
2019 is not long ago, Phil. I commute on a mid-'80s steel Bianchi every day. You won't be riding your plastic Factor in 2059
@flattrack3311 ай бұрын
Hey Phil! Do you happen to know if invisiFRAME is planning on making a specific frame protection kit for Factor bikes? Or is the universal kit good enough? Im looking to get a Factor Ostro Vam and would love to get it wrapped.
@worstretirementever11 ай бұрын
The universal kit is plenty. You’ll have a couple gaps in places that it doesn’t matter and you won’t see it
@icic315511 ай бұрын
@flattrack33 if you are getting a universal kit you might want to save some money and just get "helicopter" tape, or at least use that to practice with. It took me a good week to do a full suspension MTB, but I was being a perfectionist with invis!!!