What Do You Need In A Music Production PC? 🖥💻 | An Ultra Simple Build Guide

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Venus Theory

Venus Theory

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@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
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@bigdap100
@bigdap100 2 жыл бұрын
M1 Mac Mini...the best $589 you can spend in Pro Audio. $750 for the 16 gig. $100 for a 1GB Samsung T7...done.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 жыл бұрын
M1 PRO (not the very entry version lacking 2 power cores), dead silent, mobile, powerful, efficient, cheaper than any Pc because it keeps it's value like every other Apple product, it's perfect, literally. because of the gpu and Pc hardware Prices, there is really no point other than gaming to gfo for a Pc.
@Phenorius
@Phenorius 2 жыл бұрын
As an IT, I sincerely appreciate that you've mentionned to not cheap out on the power supply. Many computers that I've repaired over the course of my career was due to a really cheap power supply. You gave solid advice here. Also I would like to note here, AMD is pretty solid this year and might be better in some applications. To the viewers: Please don't limit yourself to one brand only. Don't be affraid to take a look at the competitors and see what they are offering. You might be surprised! All in all, great video Cameron!
@cjpizzixbmc
@cjpizzixbmc 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to practice restoring from your backups periodically.
@benhughes2355
@benhughes2355 2 жыл бұрын
My tip, avoid buying 250gb ssd’s. You’ll soon end up with several and run out of ports to plug them in.
@silentonall
@silentonall 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@flyingisland7583
@flyingisland7583 2 жыл бұрын
250gb started to get out dated. I used more and more heavy vst’s and I’m saving money to buy a 1TB
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
plus 500GB and below have a different block size, so they are not as fast as the identical model 1TB or larger.
@thejoshuathomas
@thejoshuathomas 2 жыл бұрын
Mountain-dew RGB hellbox is a great description of many custom builds. 😂
@Teeb2023
@Teeb2023 2 жыл бұрын
Made me chortle.
@AdamWellsMusic
@AdamWellsMusic 6 ай бұрын
Yes he did lol
@gadjox
@gadjox 2 жыл бұрын
Here's how I'd go about it: If you build a PC for audio start with getting the quietest case you can find, a big heavy box with not many vents = the opposite of an rgb gaming rig: Nanoxia, Fractal Design etc Then plan for the best CPU you can get but with a low TDP. This means the latest Intel is not the best option right now. Pair it with a Noctua cooler. Then get a motherboard with passive cooling and as many USB ports as possible. Get RAM according to your needs. 16GB is the minimum if you want a smooth running PC these days. 32 GB should be ok for audio unless you do soundtracks. If you rely on very large sample libraries then you might need more. If you run soft synths and midi RAM it's not so important. Plan to keep everything on SSD-s. 2TB SSD-s are not so expensive anymore. Hard disks are noisy and slow but external ones are good for backup. Use integrated video or a GT 1030 with passive cooling, or even better, a used AMD FirePRO series card for low latency. If there's a gpu cooler and it's noisy you can mod it. There's nothing special about it. Speaking of latency, your network connection can f things up in that department, so you may at times need to disable it when working on heavy projects. You'll see when you get there. Don't be cheap when it comes to PSUs. Get a quality one that fits your power needs. There are sites that help you compute the needed wattage. That should be it. I spent about 1000 euro on mine but I had a few components already from other rigs.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@jackryan3429
@jackryan3429 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Be Quiet! Base 900 and I can say it is the best case bar none. It is heavy, but very quiet.
@nuvisionprinting
@nuvisionprinting 2 жыл бұрын
So stay away from the 12th gen Intel?
@djlick2
@djlick2 2 жыл бұрын
@@nuvisionprinting no, not at all. The 12th gen CPU's are performing extremely well, because the P cores, are very high speed. So rendering times on audio should be incredible, and the architecture of the chip, is tailor made to handle multiple processes with the E&P set up.
@nuvisionprinting
@nuvisionprinting 2 жыл бұрын
@@djlick2 OK cause I was planning a 12700k, 32gb ddr5 (may as well get in the platform so I can upgrade just ram when higher speeds/latency comes rather than needing a new set up entirely). I'm upgrading from a 2700k on ddr3 2166 so anything will be be great lol Nfi what gpu as I'm only gonna be needing 3 maybe 4 screens at a later date. I don't need it for graphics processing prese.
@edsterling5258
@edsterling5258 2 жыл бұрын
Real world wisdom in this. I spent all day watching various 30-90 min vids on DAW builds today; VT delivered better intel than most of these in about 8 mins. Props.
@Oooo-bi7bi
@Oooo-bi7bi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the confirmation from a newbie.
@dothejordman
@dothejordman 9 ай бұрын
RGB Hellbox.... ha! Well said
@ASOTFAN16
@ASOTFAN16 2 жыл бұрын
An equally expensive air cooler for your CPU might actually be better than an AIO (all in one liquid cooler), since they often have similar or slightly better cooling, and they have no pump so the noise level is often lower as well. Something like a Noctua NH D15 is comparable to most 240mm AIOs and can often perform a little better. Of course the thing with this is that you will have to pay a little more attention to the fans in your case and how much air they can move and what their RPM is. But overall, for the same budget, an air cooler might be a better choice. And there's also the added benefit of better reliability since you don't have the extra part that is the pump in the system. And for the slightly more paranoid among us, there's no water inside your PC either so you won't have to worry about that water wanting to be mixed into the song in a certain way.
@realm-music
@realm-music 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to add, don't rely purely on RAID to save your data. I had a brown-out knock out two drives in my four drive RAID array which made the data unrecoverable. Fortunately, most of my data was backed up to a cloud solution but I have since also invested in a UPS to protect my hardware.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip! I think sometimes people think RAID is a magical catchall solution, easy to forget that you should back up in a few ways instead of putting all eggs in one basket.
@2112jonr
@2112jonr 2 жыл бұрын
Totally good advice from both of you. I've worked database systems in server rooms for many years, and despite their high resilience, I'd never build one without an off-server backup taken at appropriately regular intervals.
@slickx45
@slickx45 2 жыл бұрын
The most important part (that wasn't mentioned) is good surge protection (or better yet an uniteruptable power supply UPS) A good surge protector will keep your system from getting toasted in the event of a line surge and a good UPS will not only protect from a surge but will keep your system powered up during a blackout. This will allow you time to save any projects and power the system down properly.
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
Tripp Lite or APC AC Line Conditioner lasts forever, and nobody can afford batteries large enough to last for much longer than safe-shutdown time.
@philmarsh5593
@philmarsh5593 2 жыл бұрын
Solid advice. I'm a tech klutz but have a friend who builds PCs - he built my last one which has lasted almost 8 years and has just built me a new one. His advice when advising on components pretty much matched up with what you said. He did suggest PCs just don't generally use more than 32 gb RAM so he never recommends more than that. We went for an AMD Ryzen as he suggested they have the edge for the money at the moment. Graphics cards were a pain to get. BItcoin miners are buying up graphics cards, he said, and couple that with a general chip shortage and they got expensive. I ended up going for a decent low end card costing just under the equivalent of $200. Still beats my 8 year old one of course and is plenty for what I needed. Maybe you could do a follow up on music devs' software installers...I wasted a day on getting NI's Native Access to work. Then it worked fine 2 days later... Some devs require you to jump through hoops to get their software on your machine - others practically spoon feed it to you. Installing UVI's today was a total breeze, for example. Hope some of this might be of use to someone reading.
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
Wavetables, samples, tracks, plugins, you need it and more. sure, I only use 7% doing nothing, but, Live with Max and some video devices can definitely eat up what's left in a heartbeat.
@lwandokasa3829
@lwandokasa3829 3 ай бұрын
DOPE Intro
@equinoxambient
@equinoxambient Ай бұрын
My blood pressure started going up when I saw that into then right before I clicked off I got an apology lol. Seriously though.
@tomstawarski3873
@tomstawarski3873 2 жыл бұрын
My two cents on building an audio production PC: 1. Look up the recommended specs and HCL for the latest version of Pro Tools. Pro Tools is a lot more picky about the hardware than any other mainstream DAW. 2. Make sure you get the latest version of Thunderbolt on the motherboard 3. High quality air cooling beats liquid cooling in terms of reliability and value. Larger fans are quieter. 4. How to find the best PSU - look for 10+ year warranty, and get double the wattage you need. 5. Consider multiple displays, including a touchscreen 6. Allow room for future upgrades
@joeltheyagaraj9714
@joeltheyagaraj9714 5 ай бұрын
I was wondering if the motherboard or processor have anything to do with audio quality. I have a desktop with an i7 2nd gen 2600k and 16GB of DDR3 1333Mhz RAM and I have a laptop, a lenovo thinkpad E470 with and i5 7th gen 7200U and 16GB of RAM.The laptop has a licensed windows 10 OS, while the OS, windows 10 again, on the desktop is not activated.The exports I get from the laptop seem to sound bigger, clearer and punchier, using similiar plugins on both computers. I was wondering how this is possible, and if there is any difference in audio quality if I were to build a PC with the cheapest Asus 1700 motherboard available, as compared to an Asus TUF motherboard or some other equivalent. And also if processors make a difference in sound quality itself, apart from just performance.
@Bezz_Jeens
@Bezz_Jeens 8 ай бұрын
Gosh, I should would love an update on this video! Even if you're running the same build, it would be really interesting to hear how it's held up over time with different software and stuff.
@sl5311
@sl5311 6 ай бұрын
That's what I'm currently looking for!
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
Speaking of power supplies, steer clear of these Super Flower models with their 'patented' "Universal" 9-pin modular connector at the PS end. you cannot find extras and/or nobody will build one..
@MichaelSmith-on1ig
@MichaelSmith-on1ig 2 ай бұрын
I’m gonna leave the PC ship, when the new Mac Studio comes out. The way Windows is going drives me that way.
@zanetyler5345
@zanetyler5345 8 ай бұрын
This video was very informative and really helped break everything down for me component wise.
@jacobcrumb3323
@jacobcrumb3323 Жыл бұрын
The comment about buying one of the latest Mac's says it all. Want to produce music then just buy a Mac and get on with it, simple!
@christaylor553
@christaylor553 Жыл бұрын
Your going to Kill you AIO with your radiator updside down like that.
@ericburquel738
@ericburquel738 11 ай бұрын
Did you build the thing, or just confabulate it?
@paullebon323
@paullebon323 11 ай бұрын
There are now some effects that run ON THE GPU.
@Keroser1983
@Keroser1983 2 жыл бұрын
We need more Tennesse Cameron
@DerekPower
@DerekPower 2 жыл бұрын
You really are becoming Melon Head 2.0 =D Interestingly enough, I just bought a new computer as my previous one was coming up seven years and it was due for an upgrade. It's amazing what a seven-generation jump in processing capabilities can do as well as just having a fresh everything. Of course, the pain in the ass part is reinstalling everything and getting everything to work the way you want it. But all the same =]
@piratestudiosproductions
@piratestudiosproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've got a little older AMD gaming computer, it's got 16 gigs of RAM, but I still get cracks and pops with virtual instruments so I'm probably going to upgrade to 64 gigs, hopefully that'll fix that stupid problem.
@GODMODELAGGER
@GODMODELAGGER 11 ай бұрын
The Markiplier of tech
@sanches2
@sanches2 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put many pwm'd RGB stuff around analog audio
@djlick2
@djlick2 2 жыл бұрын
I do light video rendering, and have a 1660s in my system, and it does just fine on the rendering side. I know you stated it's good to have more for faster render times, but I'm finding that with a high core processor, I don't really have to worry too much about taxing the system doing other things, while my Adobe Premiere renders in the background. But yeah, overall, very nice video about building out an audio computer. I would say one more note, that probably gets ignored....I/O, that's something every producer should look at, and making sure you have the right USB connections available for devices is actually pretty critical. Also, maximize your high speed, and try to future proof with USB C if possible, and especially a thunderbolt capable USB C. There's going to be a lot more uses for this in future with connections, and it's going to be important when considering the through put and latency to devices. Don't overbudget either, and forget about the audio interface, as that's also critical, as onboard audio is just horrific if you're trying to make music, so include the cost of a good audio interface in your computer build.
@gl1tch133
@gl1tch133 6 ай бұрын
What about an intern soundcard
@justjoeblow420
@justjoeblow420 2 жыл бұрын
I think the at times humble requirements for audio work is part of why LTT still hasn't gotten to doing a video on this very topic even though they have teased it a few times now. Audio often doesn't need super beefy systems to be very workable. Hell only reason I went with as high grade of a GPU as I did in my current machine is because I'm using one PC for both my audio work and for gaming. On the multicore/ threading thing. One of the things I really like about Bitwig and Reaper is that both are more than happy to swallow cores across multiple plugins in a way I've not seen many of the other DAWs manage. Which is good for my tendency to go a bit ham with layering when working, so far the PC I built mostly for gaming is holding up fine on the audio front to no surprise to me considering I'm currently running a Ryzen 3600. Biggest issue I've ran into once or twice with my machine so far has been the fact I only went with 16GB of RAM because of budget constraints. I'm considering a RAM upgrade because my god since I started using Kontakt more that fucker can swallow the RAM by the bucket load some times.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it's also a matter of just too many variables to reasonably cover with different DAWs/plugins/etc. Even some very basic 'office machine' PC builds can do most of what you need in a music production PC so they're typically not all that exciting haha. Hopefully in the future DAWs and other tools can start to better utilize multicore systems, but who knows when that kind of stuff will happen. I feel you on Kontakt though - insanely inefficient at times with the RAM!
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
i thought that also, but $7000, ALL SCSI 10K RPM Cheetahs whopping RAM Intel Pentium III then IV wouldn't cut it on the Cakewalk Demo song even, and it was one of the first 20-bit 8 channel external boxes, thing pissed me off, just could not keep from being all gritty, until this latest machine Windows uses a type of latency that just messes with shit. Deferred Procedure Call DPC it really is Rocket Science up there There is some new tool that babysits cache by M$ I saw yesterday, for windows 11, which I flat refuse. enjoy
@anastasiamorayleech1967
@anastasiamorayleech1967 5 ай бұрын
he had me a puter rectangles
@Indi3R
@Indi3R 10 ай бұрын
I used your build as a rough guide to build my new Music PC a year ago and although it sent me more then a little over budget this machine is a true sleeper. It looks basic but gosh it can handle anything I through at it. I also run Premiere, after affects and gaming is a breeze. My power supply has enough overhead for expansion but 1 year on and I couldn't be happier. Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K, 3200 Mhz, 16 Core(s), 24 Logical Processor(s) Time Zone AUS Eastern Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 32.0 GB Total Physical Memory 31.8 GB Available Physical Memory 22.7 GB Total Virtual Memory 36.5 GB Available Virtual Memory 24.8 GB
@jamiesontobeymusic
@jamiesontobeymusic 5 ай бұрын
Cool! Which motherboard did you choose?
@marcelruetters
@marcelruetters 2 жыл бұрын
great video man! build my pc a year ago, maybe a bit overpowered but after 10 years it was about time!
@fdgggfh24
@fdgggfh24 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video!! Which motherboard do you have in your PC? I would like to get the intel i9 12900k CPU too, but i'm not sure which DDR4 motherboard would fit it well. I'm also thinking about getting the Gigabyte Geforce RTX 3060ti 8GB GPU and the fractal case you were talking about in the video. But i don't know if everything would work fine together and fit properly. This would be my first PC (mainly for mixing music for a living) and i'm a bit confused of the interaction between all the components and overclocking and stuff 😅 Can you recommend a good motherboard for the 12900k for under 400$? Thanks again, keep making great content!
@sl5311
@sl5311 6 ай бұрын
Our Gigabyte 15XT just croaked. It had a power surge from the power port connector being loose and we were told it zapped the motherboard. Gigabyte was the only place that had the motherboard and they wanted $1200 plus $90 diagnostic fee plus we pay shipping both ways. The laptop was less than 2 years old . Never going back to them. Now I'm reading MacBook Pros are the same way.
@tetramusicstudio
@tetramusicstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank u for this video baba, i've been building my own daw pc setups for 18 years. On my fifth version now, the latest and greatest. I think Macs are good for folks who just need 2 not think 2 much. For folks who love 2 think 2 much. Windows PC's are King!!!!!! I LOVE it.
@SetantaLC73
@SetantaLC73 Жыл бұрын
😂
@KL-tn1xc
@KL-tn1xc 2 жыл бұрын
if you want to be up to date with what cpu to get you can search on "dawbench " + *latest cpu of either amd or intel* and you'll find up to date benchmarks that's relevant to daw performance. right now intel is indeed in a good spot.
@nathanieldiazrua
@nathanieldiazrua 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your Intro was awesome. Nothing to apologize for!
@turtlemouth
@turtlemouth 2 жыл бұрын
I have three NVMe drives so I can separate the OS and applications, files, and libraries.
@Chalisque
@Chalisque 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I would want to know is how the nvmes connect to the CPU. I think there are 4 PCIe lanes from the CPU to one nvme, but the other one or two connect via the chipset, which has another 4 PCIe lanes, but these are shared with _all_ other IO. So having three nvme's aids separating and organising files, but not raw performance. Mind you, nvmes are already overkill.
@turtlemouth
@turtlemouth 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra and all NVMe drives are PCIe 4.0. IIRC, the first NVMe slot has four lanes to the CPU, the second slot has four lanes to the chipset, and the third slot has only two lanes, shared with SATA 4 and 5. Of course, the minutiae only matters if I'm going to spend all my time benchmarking (which is expensive, hence my three NVMe drives). The simultaneous disk access makes me giddy during massive file transfers.
@dwpix
@dwpix 2 жыл бұрын
Mac Mini M1- Simple AND (now) the AFFORDABLE solution. ~$900 out the door. Built, warranted, SILENT. Why fight it? Think about it- you order it, then your done.
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 2 жыл бұрын
You can build much powerful system even for $900 on the PC side but if you're a mac person, it's good choice
@michaelhawkins6149
@michaelhawkins6149 2 жыл бұрын
I want a Mac mini so bad....that M1 is killer....but I use Mixcraft and Cakewalk and those are PC only. (crying)
@dwpix
@dwpix 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhawkins6149 My M1 is working like a dream with Ableton Live.
@michaelhawkins6149
@michaelhawkins6149 2 жыл бұрын
@@dwpix I'm sure it is!
@ckatheman
@ckatheman Жыл бұрын
I’m going to Mac, I’m tired of spending most of my time fighting with the tool (the computer). I also have a 6700 i7 based system, and while it’s ok, too many unexplained CPU spikes, newer synths i like, such as Vital and Massive X choke quickly at acceptable buffer sizes (I play everything), etc… yes I can make things work by freezing tracks, etc… but it robs the creative time. I just need a set and forget system like a Mac Studio. More expensive? Sure, but saving me the hassle of windows is worth it.
@Nick-ul2nu
@Nick-ul2nu Жыл бұрын
Just make sure your cpu supports the ram speed because if the ram speed is higher than supported by cpu you won’t be able to enable xmp in bios to take advantage of its true speed. Also make sure you check your motherboard’s max ram supported so you don’t go buy let’s say 128gb ram just to find out it only supports 32gb or 64gb
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
And Check the Motherboard manufacturer's Memory QVL, since not many DIMMs actually work together in all four slots, unless dropping the clock way down. I lucked-out with an X570 Aorus Master (rev. 1.2) and 4x32GB G.SKILL runs at 3600MHZ smooth as silk. a 4000MHz set for my other motherboard just may work at 1:1` infinity fabric. GPU AUDIO uses your GPU for plugins.
@mainpage725
@mainpage725 5 ай бұрын
I use a lot of Spitfire and Kontakt on my sessions for film scoring and just recently built my pc using: Asus tuff gaming Z790+ i7 12 32 gb ram ddr5 A 2tb nvme ssd RTX 3050 Plus a usb 3.0 expander card that gave my like 6 more usb inserts and 2 usb c inserts. Fans were Corsair Case was a Corsair 4000D Psu was a 1000 watt In using All this running the Spitfire BBC symphony PRO runs beautifully.
@schlangenvogel2647
@schlangenvogel2647 2 жыл бұрын
Important that someone talks about this. Great video
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Roderick_Legato
@Roderick_Legato 2 жыл бұрын
How 'bout them GPU prices?!?! Whew!!
@silentonall
@silentonall 2 жыл бұрын
and CPU prices! Bought a 3970X for 1800.00 off Amazon in mid 2020. Same CPU on Amazon is going for 2900.00. A very sad time now to build a PC with new parts.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I had to go prebuilt this time around. Prices are insane!
@heavenly2k
@heavenly2k Жыл бұрын
YES. I was looking for videos about this and see ma boy Venus got a video already. Lessgooooooooo
@ruleset
@ruleset 5 ай бұрын
thank you for actually explaining this stuff, especially the CPU part and not just showing off your new build, as a diehard gamer and a music producer I never took music into consideration when getting a new build, but now that I'm approaching almost 10 years of producing it's time to balance things out btw you have a weirdly deep voice
@artactsound444
@artactsound444 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I shouldn't ask for advice here but I'm going to try: I'm not even sure I need an Audio interface, I have happily used an M Audio Audiophile internal sound card for the last 20 years, first in a 20 year old PC then on my present build from about 10 years ago, I've just upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and lost the software and drivers of the card in the process. I've been doing a littler research and it looks like my good old sound card is very dated. All I do is on Sibelius, DORICO, Vienna Instruments and Note Performer. All I really need is Sound quality, power to drive my Zennheiser HD 600 headphones well, lowest possible latency and no clipping. I like monitors with amps in them. Connecting an instrument or a Microphone is something I've never done, but it could be fun to do sometime maybe. Certainly not more than 1 instrument or 1 microphone. These are my two choices though I'm not sure they are what I need. MOTU M2 2x2 USB-C Audio Interface. M-Audio AIR 192x4 USB C Audio Interface. Hope you can help.
@cwtrain
@cwtrain 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh that? That's my 'puter rectangle."
@jimmydekeersmaeker
@jimmydekeersmaeker 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cameron, I'm still on my first PC for music production and I'm also thinking about buying a new one. I was wondering how to get started when it comes to transferring all the software from the old PC to a new one. Do you have some advice?
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there's no real good way other than to just plan to manually reinstall everything.
@dirg3music
@dirg3music 2 жыл бұрын
I've had really good success in the past with using Macrium Reflect's Clone Disk function, plug the new clean drive from the new pc to your old one, then run Clone disk and it will be a 1:1 copy of your old system drive.
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
dear god don't say NAS like N-A-S edit: a 1660 is such obnoxious overkill for just music production edit again: AIO is a bad recommendation
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
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@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
​@@VenusTheory damn can't take criticism much? i still thought it was a good video lol
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Criticism would imply that you had something of value to add. This was you trying to sound like a know it all without backing up any of your own arguments with a counterpoint. Sorta like when a dog licks it's own ass.
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory not at all true. sorry it got under your skin, but if you really want the justifications: 1) most people say NAS like Nas the rapper, it's not "incorrect" to say N-A-S, it's just strange 2) the gtx 1660 is a competent gaming card, more than capable of light 1080p gaming. anything with that much power is insanely overqualified for a workload without many gpu accelerated tasks or anything much for the GPU to do at all. it's just an absurdly expensive video output in this context. it will also need more cooling than a less powerful card, and thus be louder. 3) AIOs are worse for cooling, price, and noise than high quality tower coolers. this has been proven. something like a Noctua NH-D15 wipes the floor with pretty much every AIO, and while they certainly look really cool, that's not much of a tangible benefit to music producers Not sure why you got so defensive about things that weren't even super scathing attacks or anything. i was trying to participate mostly in good faith.
@guilladogui8259
@guilladogui8259 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the info .. i have a question about what power supply do you have for ur main ? do you know any motherboard with thunderbolt? and i have a question about static noise do you get any sound noise with the 3080 installed ? i just replace my power supply and installed a 1000w asus rog with a rog strix 3080 12gb ... my sound on all outputs has static and even my thunderbolt apollo without playing anything if i bring the volume up i hear white noise . im thinking the 3080 is too much for audio interference or just my system is not very good grounded?
@CaptainVelveeta
@CaptainVelveeta Жыл бұрын
I read that the Ryzen processor, with a dedicated graphics card, uses it's cores much more efficiently then Intel. The article said the Intel uses a number of it's cores for the integrated GPU and if you put in a dedicated GPU it doesn't actually free up the cores, it just renders them useless. Any idea if there's any truth to that or just a sales pitch?
@JulienOBER
@JulienOBER Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all those infos! It's time for me to say goodbye to my old budy (11 years old) based on a i7 3770 :)
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 2 жыл бұрын
awesome could you suggest a high power high base core laptop and ram for multi low latency drum vsts monitoring as i layer up several on my usb kit and need the speed and performance, my 6th gen i7 is handling 2 with 16 g ram windows 10, rubbish and cant work in cubase lol, any help appreciated, love to use synths too lots of
@ctd_audio
@ctd_audio 2 жыл бұрын
Damn just as I was considering getting a Mac next and having a dual mac/pc setup, and then this timely vid pops up! My PC is getting a little long in the tooth. Also, your intros have been fire lately VT 😂😂
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Haha well glad to be of service. Glad you've been enjoying the videos as well!
@dwpix
@dwpix 2 жыл бұрын
Mac Mini M1- Simple AND (now) the AFFORDABLE solution. ~$900 out the door. Built, warranted, SILENT. Why fight it? Think about it- you order it, then your done.
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
Macs are honestly pretty damn cost effective now and have incredibly good music production performance. i say that as a PC person
@sl5311
@sl5311 6 ай бұрын
@@dwpixwhat about now in 2024?
@x1625
@x1625 Жыл бұрын
Grossly simplified, yet highly comprehendible.
@SKYSE04
@SKYSE04 2 жыл бұрын
0:56 that note on the screen made me laugh out loud XD uwu~
@kdg6963
@kdg6963 Жыл бұрын
i know this isn't a falcon video BUT i ran across a demo of a few sounds and OMG!!!! i see why you love it so much!
@julianmanjarres1998
@julianmanjarres1998 2 жыл бұрын
how do you position your mic for your recordings such as this video
@habs
@habs Жыл бұрын
Great video with excellent recommendations. I would have to disagree on the AIO water coolers. A noctua air cooler would be a much better choice imho and you did mentioned those are great silent fans.
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pretty powerful machine, but an IPad Pro also works well for a lot of purposes. I use both.
@Ambitiouz_mindset
@Ambitiouz_mindset 2 жыл бұрын
Are the new 12th gen laptop cpus a good alternative to the m1 max?
@mrd5024
@mrd5024 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, if you only have ONE backup of your work, you do not have a backup
@gutterg0d
@gutterg0d 2 жыл бұрын
A backup is a backup regardless of how many you have. Just having one is not very good practise though, multiple copies on multiple locations is where you need to put your data for real safety from data loss.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Sage advice haha.
@ragnarroeck
@ragnarroeck 2 жыл бұрын
And if an external Backupdrive is plugged into the computer all the time it might be killed by the same incident as the computer: unplug USB and power.
@mrd5024
@mrd5024 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnarroeck exactly. All backups should be at another location. Friends house. Parents house. Anyplace but the primary location.
@Mystical-TEDDY_
@Mystical-TEDDY_ 2 жыл бұрын
That intro music is so nostalgic! Whats it called
@adilm2187
@adilm2187 2 жыл бұрын
W. A. Amd ryzen 7 5700g.. No gpu... For even light 3d modeling
@richardlynneweisgerber2552
@richardlynneweisgerber2552 6 ай бұрын
You can use those and just about only those with AMD's ROCm AI ML work, too. Cram 128GB 4000MHz RDDR4 in a Master level motherboard, allocate 32GB to your internal GPU, 96GB to CPU. you are set.
@martti7363
@martti7363 2 жыл бұрын
I need a mac for my production pc
@QuimGil
@QuimGil 2 жыл бұрын
About the box. Ok, Fractal or equivalent deep silent case. But what about the size? Is full tower the only sensible option or can mid-size / mini options be considered as well with these recommended specs?
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
very generally speaking, small form factor systems will have more restricted airflow and therefore higher air turbulence, leading to louder fan noise. they will also run at hotter temps, meaning the fans will need to run faster, creating more noise. modern, well-designed SFF cases perform nearly as well as high performing mid or full tower cases, however, so if you're smart about your hardware choices, you can absolutely get away with it.
@rolfamundsen230
@rolfamundsen230 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the 12900k, are you using windows 11? How has it been so far? Cubase-user asking 😄
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
I used it VERY briefly for about a week. Had to go back to Win10 though as most of my plugins had issues with Win11.
@EaselCat
@EaselCat 2 жыл бұрын
Macbook
@Liquides11
@Liquides11 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on the topic so far :)
@nightblure
@nightblure 2 жыл бұрын
think about i5 12600k
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestions.
@wethepeople6940
@wethepeople6940 10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir 🙏
@noahhughes1433
@noahhughes1433 2 жыл бұрын
apology accepted
@JohnWells2014
@JohnWells2014 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been looking into for the past 3 days. You covered everything except sound cards.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Well, a soundcard isn't really necessary when you have an audio interface. So, figured there wasn't much point in talking about that as most producers will be using a separate audio interface.
@JohnWells2014
@JohnWells2014 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory I was under the impression that DSP and DSP effects ought to be handled by a sound card, then the output signal routed through an audio interface. That and I've heard that using a dedicated USB bus card on a PCIe slot helps with MIDI over USB processing. Is this not a good solution to signal latency and workload redistribution?
@ZiwaHD
@ZiwaHD 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnWells2014 options like UAD and antelope interfaces come with dsp management thus there is no need for a sound card to handle that if you look at those specific options
@JohnWells2014
@JohnWells2014 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZiwaHD The Antelope audio Orion Studio is exactly what I've been looking for. But they are pants explodingly expensive. But it's has all the features.
@ZiwaHD
@ZiwaHD 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnWells2014 I completely understand ; that unit shows up a lot on the used market you might get a better deal that way
@musicbill
@musicbill 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use 64GB of ram Instead of 32?
@johncollins5552
@johncollins5552 Ай бұрын
Of course if your mobo supports it, check manufacturer specs online.
@INVICTRTUM
@INVICTRTUM 2 жыл бұрын
hey! i love your work can you please do a reese beat of travis scott “what to do” song part, where it says woke up on the 17… i have been trying to do the thunder/ storm effect but i just can’t get it if you could help me i would be really greatful please and thank you🙏🙏
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
I'll add it to my requests list!
@INVICTRTUM
@INVICTRTUM 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory thank you very much hope i can hear back from you soon
@omniburn
@omniburn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cameron. You've been struggling with the plugins after transferring them to your new PC. Any advice on how to transfer them properly?
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there's no real good way to do it haha, just have to manually reinstall everything!
@profet1385
@profet1385 2 жыл бұрын
Make a list of what you have. Drag n drop. Load up your DAW and see what works, compare to your initial list. Install difference.
@odiroot
@odiroot 2 жыл бұрын
I was really worried this is gonna be the new intro.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah no.
@hanhtar9062
@hanhtar9062 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@furiobisotti8150
@furiobisotti8150 2 жыл бұрын
I was considering myself an expert. But recently I failed to buy a good notebook PC. New Intel chips are too powerful for a thin 14", so BIOS inserts a lot of idle cycles to keep temperature down, and you cannot change that. You have ridiculously bad performances in LatencyMon and a lot of bad audio spikes. With home PCs this is not a problem, such as with compact units like NUC. So... Be careful with notebooks, try LatencyMon before buying. Since I play live I had to sell my new notebook and buy a MacBookPro. Sad to report: on Macs you have no issues like that...
@dwpix
@dwpix 2 жыл бұрын
true
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 2 жыл бұрын
Just run it on high performance mode or pin the cpu frequency where it doesn't throttles. Even macs have crackling sound issues which I am aware of. My laptop doesn't throttles but drains more battery on high performance mode so I pinned it around 2 ghz, no audio and latency issues which are caused by varying cpu frequency on balanced mode
@furiobisotti8150
@furiobisotti8150 2 жыл бұрын
@@clickbaitpro I used windows notebooks live for decades. I had incredible bad experience with a very recent gaming beast. And I see similar experiences on line with other users. Now I tested both planets. Believe me: Macs are intrinsically more robust for music production. Audio routines are inside operating system, there is no way that an ethernet board or whatever have bad drivers damaging latency. This is a danger always present in a windows notebook. Very powerful windows machines in little cases (ultrabooks) have another issue: BIOS does not allow anymore to exclude temperature safety procedures to slow down processors. You have to fight a lot with REGEDIT to enable or disable, and most of the times this is not documented nor suggested. Macs are more expensive and less flexible, but audio performance is extremely well controlled. Obvious: hardware and their drivers are from a one and only supplier...
@noam_mmvii
@noam_mmvii 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Also I haven't watched a video in a while, nice new haircut!
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Haha finally got rid of the quarantine special. First real haircut I've had in months.
@noam_mmvii
@noam_mmvii 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory Well it looks badass! Great idea.
@aviralxdd
@aviralxdd 2 жыл бұрын
Really needed to make a pc for myself, but don’t have stocked bank accounts, really gonna help me focus on what part I need to spend on.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
It's really easy to get sucked into a super expensive build really quick haha - not to mention the insane prices of parts lately with all the chip shortages and GPU shortages!
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
RAM
@jeremiahlyleseditor437
@jeremiahlyleseditor437 2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for the Laptop platform?
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Not really sure any recommendation here would change - pretty much everything directly applies to laptops except the GPU as you'd be restricted to whatever GPU is available for that model laptop. Generally speaking, gaming laptops usually pack pretty good specs for music production!
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
macbook pro or asus zenbook are great
@antonioruiz1286
@antonioruiz1286 2 жыл бұрын
You got me with that intro.
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't resist haha
@elliottmunger5154
@elliottmunger5154 2 жыл бұрын
So happy you posted this. About to pull the trigger on a new PC today. Are 12th gen Intel processors worth the effort to obtain over 11th gen? Also, something I find I interesting from the layman's perspective is that CPU's with less cores always tend to quote a higher "clock speed." Is anything being sacrificed by increasing the number of cores? I assume it's not that simple because most machines touted for audio have 8+ cores...
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
12th gen has a few significant benefits. 1) DDR5 2) PCIe gen 5 3) actually incredible integrated graphics, removing the need for a discrete GPU 4) significantly better single threaded performance than previous generations to answer the thing about sacrificing things when having more cores, the answer is no. the i9-12900k runs at a similar (higher actually) clock speed than the i5-12600k. their singlethreaded performance is basically identical. however, audio machines are not good proof of this. most purpose-built audio computers are actually garbage, and are made by people who either understand audio and not computers, or computers and not audio. usually, they have grave oversights or just specs that are flashy but make no sense in the real world.
@elliottmunger5154
@elliottmunger5154 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatskraken3886 Thank you so much! Sounds like an 11th gen i7 will work for me and 12th gen won't matter if I'm not shelling out the money for newer parts.
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
@@elliottmunger5154 any time, i'd also recommend checking out AMD cpus, they're pretty competitive options right now (though they don't have integrated graphics, which is a pretty big consideration)
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
If you can swing it, I'd say so. However, I haven't noticed to significant of a difference with the big/little architecture when it comes to music production. For general tasks and especially things like video editing though, they're insanely fast. They also offer a bit more future-proofing with support for upcoming components and standards.
@Sharpend
@Sharpend 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I remember when I upgraded my cpu from like an old i5 to an amd r9 3900x and I thought I'd never hear cpu crackle again. It did help bigger projects a lot but if a single synth or effect does a lot of stuff (a lot of unison voices or like the granular engine in pigments) it'd still be very tasking on the cpu 🥶
@coolvibesradio3267
@coolvibesradio3267 2 жыл бұрын
you look tired
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Always
@sevenfifteen
@sevenfifteen 2 жыл бұрын
Where's my comment gone?
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Comments have apparently been broken again, starting to get more people asking about disappearing comments. I think KZbin has added more aggressive spam filters with all the bot comments lately. Unfortunately the only thing to do is just try commenting again, I have no clue what trips the filters and the missing comments don't even go to my 'held for review' area.
@sevenfifteen
@sevenfifteen 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory Thank you! I'll do!
@SaM-is9tx
@SaM-is9tx 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@NoChrReq
@NoChrReq 2 жыл бұрын
dude, it's like you are being dubbed by someone else. lol
@jocelynjosssheehy2970
@jocelynjosssheehy2970 2 жыл бұрын
Why a silly piano music background instead of a silent one? What’s wrong with silence? It’s all over all kinds of videos these days. So useless and annoying…
@VenusTheory
@VenusTheory 2 жыл бұрын
www.wikihow.com/Stop-Crying
@dwpix
@dwpix 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory That was a great response
@whatskraken3886
@whatskraken3886 2 жыл бұрын
@@VenusTheory ok that's pretty funny
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