What Does it Mean to Move Toward Thought?

[@dennisbeauchamp1803]

Thanks Angelo. This is where the rubber meets the road for me at this moment.

[@johnklessinger560]

Knowingness of thought is the thought. Really pondering this in direct experience and my head is now spinning. Very mind bending.

[@johnklessinger560]

Getting deeper in meditation and going through this oscillating like pages are turning when I try to find the Self. Is this it? Then realize it’s not. This? No. I see that too. Like my brain is compressed unable to decipher anything

[@johnklessinger560]

All the while my mind has sped up from 30mph to 70 and everything that pops in my head causes my body to react with fear. With desperation in my words, any guidance?

[@johnklessinger560]

All the while my mind has sped up from 30mph to 70 and everything that pops in my head causes my body to react with fear. With desperation in my words, any guidance?

[@katehiggins9940]

@@johnklessinger560 how are you doing today? there’s nothing to fear. even when it feels scary. ❤️

[@sulevinuni]

Love you all!

[@madalynmoth4263]

Thank you, Angelo, this is very helpful 🕊❤️

[@dontwantafnchannel]

Once you see it, you can’t unsee it! The thought is made of “being” The house is made of “being” The cat licking itself in the corner is made of “being” - not two, all one homogenous being! The great infinite ocean. One substance, doesn’t matter what you call it. Great vid

[@SaxonShore]

It is

[@nightlily3855]

It is strange but I did see it once after I opened my eyes after a deep meditation, very clear, vivid and it was so bloody obvious, like how could anyone miss it, everything is It, how can it be otherwise? Lasted several days and slowly became blurrier and blurrier and then stopped being my direct experience, back to the dream of objects....

[@alfreddifeo9642]

Think it was you who said if you can write in down its a thought but this is added clarity. Thanks

[@maxprummer]

Love you for that precious simple gift 🥰💠

[@FetterMuncher666]

The appearance of the thought and thinker arise together, nice , that's a big one for me to hear

[@StephenAndersonSACreate]

Powerful stuff ❤

[@rafreitas]

It’s so funny. The moment I moved towards thought, it completely lost its meaning. Great pointing. Thank you!

[@anitaemerson1116]

so adroit! thank you

[@n-xsta]

7:39 🖤 9:41

[@MelFinehout]

There seems to be the urge to be taken as reality within every thought, or maybe the urge to be taken as reality is the “engine” of thought or something. This same urge seems to NOT want to look at what the thought actually is. The way it came (as thought of course) to me was that the thoughts want to be believed but not known. And even knowing this, is simply a slicker and more cunning version of the same mechanism/aspect of thoughts. As is this very comment. It can feel so inescapable. (Which is simply a thought) the thoughts refine, and get more articulate and subtler but even these thoughts are no more “real” than the courser, more obviously flawed thought. It’s like a velvet trap…..which is….well yeah.

[@niranjiperera774]

🙏

[@stargirl9551]

“All kinds of stuff happens after awakening”. Yeah, constant awful shit 😭. That’s after the honeymoon. But it’s true, the clarity doesn’t go away… You just have all these experiences that you’d rather not have…

[@VeritableVagabond]

Learn the jhanas. They’re the antidote to the 5 hindrances.

[@immanuelhennicker9300]

What is it that prefers one experience over the other, try to inquire into that. There's really no difference between Bliss and Dark Night, both dependently arise Also try to look at the degree you identify with the experience. Like "Oh there is this state of ... so that means everythings going the right way" or "Ah, theres this phenomena so this means im doing ... "

[@stargirl9551]

I know this might sound funny… But Buddhism has never really resonated with me. 😅 I find it too complex, structured, and rigid. I did try to keep an open mind though so I looked into the jhanas and the five hindrances as per your suggestion. But reading about the five hindrances just gave me this strong sense of this aspect of “self-control”, which is what really doesn’t resonate with me. I’m a woman so I don’t know if that makes a difference. I’ve never liked any practices or meditation so I haven’t done them. 😆 I’ve come this far just through transmission and surrender. At this point, I’m just completely led by intuition, and my regular human life is my only practice. Okay, you did not ask for my life story 😂😂 Thanks for the recommendation 😁👍

[@stargirl9551]

@immanuelhennicker9300 That’s very helpful. Thank you.

[@PragmaticPresence]

that doesn't last, keep going

[@TPot1222]

Damn. I’ve been imagining thoughts and consciousness from a distance this whole time. Fascinating. I see that I don’t know what a thought is or what consciousness is. I feel like I can’t know that they are seamless or what they actually “are”. Confirming or denying any of these statements feel like thought movements. I suppose I will just inhabit the “thinker” (when I think about it), and see what does or doesn’t happen ❤

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@TPot1222 very nice

[@FromRuinRise]

In my more pessimistic days, I would often find myself muttering “Who Cares?” now I find the question has changed to, “Who? Cares”

[@celesteschacht8996]

Thank you!❤❤❤

[@tim2269]

4:04❤

[@immanuelhennicker9300]

Today I saw that dependent origination is empty and therefore emptiness is empty too thats kinda weird and identity really seems like a phantom limb, just imperceptable. sometimes theres a random filter somehow but cant point to that anymore ore try to make a difference to 360° non fixation mode no knowledge whatsoever, it's wild

[@Awarewolf-sc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@HossHauksson]

Hi Angelo, You seem to even-handedly quote Zen and Vedanta teachers. You also seem to have more focus on the physical body than many others I listen to. How do you think of your teaching in terms of lineage? Thank you, Hoss

[@intrepidlycuriouscat]

Hi. Q: So is identifying with thought about the content? On a second listen I heard the answer.

[@georgesonm1774]

Angelo, do you have any advice as to how to work with "subtle" or "astral" energies, sensations etc? I mean, I'm in meditation and it's like a cloud of black light invades my body through my eyes and it feels slightly desensitizing, blurring the body senses. It's when I try to see beyond thought, it feels like a default move. Looks psychedelic/blurry in the field of vision when it starts and I'm not sure if I should move along and let it in or not. What is this, even? I thought, maybe the substance of thought - but it's clearly an object (like the body is). I know it sounds very abstract but - any advice? Is this just an ego defense of some sort, a projection of the mind? I take SSRIs, could this have anything to do with that? Thanks

[@Nooneself]

Many of us, who have meditated for many years, have already achieved this first state your describing, of separating the observer from thoughts. The important step in awakening, is separating the observer from both physical and emotional pain. I cannot yet do this completely...can you? Best Wishes

[@katehiggins9940]

the observer is a thought. you can’t separate anything from anything. there are no separate things. ❤

[@PragmaticPresence]

The observer eventually dissipates, too

[@nightlily3855]

this video is not about that though, it is about seeing that observer and thoughts arise at the same time and are seamless, observer being a thought too and are nothing more than the knowing of them, it is all that Is.

[@swimmingbird238]

So is "who is the thinker" a good enquiry?

[@metalbirder]

Amazing talk! But what I want to know is where do you get these freaking amazing thumbnails?! ❤

[@renko9067]

I believe they are AI generated.

[@stargirl9551]

Has anyone else here had the twin flame experience? 😅😳

[@777Morganna]

Yes, I think so. Deep joy 😣

[@stargirl9551]

@777Morganna Oh my God. I have never experienced so much pain in my life LOL. I specifically asked here because I know Angelo’s audience is super pragmatic, logical, and discerning. There is just way too much confusion and chaos in the twin flame sphere. And I am not even a New Age person (not that I have anything against those who are). But I fell in love with someone and started experiencing my awakening through that love. And I started experiencing all these strange phenomena surrounding this person. Oddly, I never considered this could be something other people also experience until about five months in when I finally started to Google what I was experiencing. I was shocked to discover that thousands of others all around the world are also experiencing this, and they are calling it “twin flame”.

[@liu360]

Yes, i found the key is that you are actually the twin flame

[@stargirl9551]

@liu360 Yes, I completely agree! I couldn’t find any help in the twin flame community. It’s just filled with BS and nonsense (sorry for being so frank 😂). I was just looking for clarity on what was happening to me and that’s when I found Angelo. Once I found Angelo, things started to make sense and become clearer. The twin flame experience is a manifestation in Consciousness (to use the term the way Angelo does). It is made up of perceptions of the mind. It brings all of your perceptual filters into sharp relief so they can dissolve. At least, that’s what I experienced. Thank you for commenting. I love to know there’s other “twins” in the Simply Always Awake community/sangha.

[@liu360]

@@stargirl9551U can ask the question, why do i need a twin? What cant i give myself that someone else has to do and then fill in the emotion (kinda)

[@chipjones205]

Hi Angelo, I had a dream in color which I rarely if ever have. Without going into detail the dream showed me I kind make up any life I want, that it’s all a dream anyway, nothing truly bad can happen because it’s like creating your own play. I woke up laughing so hard and it has stayed with me. Is this a step towards waking up?

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@chipjones205 sure seems that way

[@Jacob-Vivimord]

It all seems too quick for me to notice. Like I can't recognise the thought until after it's happened. And I recognise that that, too, is a thought, but the identification is so sticky I feel I can't observe anything, I just AM any thought that arises.

[@AlvynVillanuevaart]

man ive listened to this kind of talk for years from dozens of people here on youtube, and sometimes im in the mood and it clicks and other times it irritates me to listen to this stuff, so i switch to 5d pleidian stuff or ACIM stuff. my ego is fighting back. BTW, I seem to notice people either only talk of non duality OR spiritual entities (Ra law of one etc) The only one ive come across that seems to bridge the two is Bashar.

[@PragmaticPresence]

there's quite a lot more, :)

[@katehiggins9940]

@@PragmaticPresencei’ve never had any interest in extra terrestrial stuff. it all feels like thought to me. but we don’t have choice over our interests so well🤷‍♀️ it’s interesting how different people resonate with different aspects. ❤

[@nightlily3855]

Bashar seems to touch on a lot of non duality stuff but I am confused at his overstressed insistence of existence of free will

[@PragmaticPresence]

@@katehiggins9940 I hear you, I more just meant there's people who speak on other aspects , too.

[@stargirl9551]

Don’t assume that anything outside of “pure non-duality” is ego. If something about 5d pleidian stuff or ACIM or spiritual entities resonates with you, it is part of your path. Don’t doubt yourself or your interests. Angelo always says “don’t underestimate the forces of delusion”, so it is good that you are alert to that. But in my opinion there is too much intellectualization and not enough Heart in the non-duality community (this criticism doesn’t apply to Angelo). There is a lot of Heart in the New Age community. It’s not all high-quality of course, but I have personally come across some very powerful transmissions in the New Age sphere. Sometimes these people are “channeling angels”. Do I even believe in angels? I don’t really know. But do I even believe in “chairs” anymore? It’s all the same 😂. All just thought objects. If something resonates with you, that is your heart leading the way. It is the heart/intuition that awakens us, not the intellect/logic. At least, that was my experience.

[@jericosha2842]

My internal perspective watched the thought zoom in and change the angle. I'm watching a really shitty movie lol

[@filipsigur6179]

Isn't visualizing a thought just a visual thought that can be examined too?

[@Eli_water_lily]

Sometimes it feels like you're talking to enlightened people. I don't get it. you explain it in a way that makes it seem so hard to grasp

[@777Morganna]

🤯😆

[@johndean8052]

Who cares, talking, explaining, is in the mind field, silence, end of story, the rest is just chatter or entertainment for those who listen. It is like showing someone a photo of a meal and later they then realize it did nothing and they are still hungry. Mostly the messenger is more important than the message.....Silence...

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@johndean8052 and yet people keep on waking up . True silence is not absent in sound.

[@ForceOwner7]

No need for disrespect John